GMAT Sentence Correction Discussions

The intent of the sentence here is to show the similarity b/w two actions rather than to show a contrast.
"while" is used to show a contrast and hence (B) is not the correct choice.
I would have preffered option (C) over (A) had it been "Just as they never forgave".....but the usage of "like", instead of "as", is the main culprit in the option.
But I still feel that "Even as" used in option (A) is not the best way to write the sentence.


Hey Sumit!

"even as" indicates simultaneous/parallel nature of two actions.

Thanks for that - yeah I know I've been too lazy to look at the meaning of "absolve" and then it all comes down to the meaning of "absolve". I guessed totally oppositive of what it actually means.. :(

Any tips how to guess right - the meaning - in such situations.
1. Even as they never forgave the Crusaders who overran their homeland, the Syrians have never absolved the French for taking territory from them.
(A) Even as they never forgave
(B) While they never forgave
(C) Just like they never forgave
(D) Similarly to not forgiving
(E) In spite of their never forgiving


hi

i selected A and later came across
Saladin's Shaky Successors - TIME
it also says A. Without logic
bye
CAVEAT: This is not a GMAT style SC question so please don't waste your time doing such questions. Invest it in quality questions from OG.

1.
Even as they never forgave the Crusaders who overran their homeland, the Syrians have never absolved the French for taking territory from them.
(A) Even as they never forgave
(B) While they never forgave
(C) Just like they never forgave
(D) Similarly to not forgiving
(E) In spite of their never forgiving

Problem with B -> While means either a period of time it was happening (as a background) and is usually used along with continuous tenses. For example "While Arun was playing the guitar, Amit cooked the food". In fact a very interesting example of how we tend to make mistakes in everyday life. Spot the error on this one (answer in a separate post): "Offer is valid till stocks last"

So it means Syrians never absolved friends, and just as that was happening (same time and in a way dependent) they never forgave the Crusaders.

Problem with C -> You don't need "Just Like" as "Like" would suffice by itself. Also Like is used when comparing nouns and not entire clauses.

Problem with D -> To begin with it should be "Similar to" and not "Similarly to". However the bigger error is also the tense "forgiving" doesn't match with "absolved".

Problem with E -> "In spite of" mean "hone ke bavaajud" That means if they had not forgiven the Crusaders, they should have (which didn't happen) absolved the French. Makes no sense! Also has the same tense error as D.

"Even as" is the correct usage as it means "jab tha tab bhi". Example:
Even as a young boy he was known to explore different ways of doing things.

Hope this clears the confusion,

Arun

Arun,

I think the correct way of writing the sentence would be:
"Offer is valid as long as the stocks last"
I am saying this because we are not sure the exact time period(its a relative one). We can say "Offer is valid till 8p.m." since here we are definite about the exact end.
To summarize we use "till/until" to express a time in future which is rigid and not relative. For any relative point of time in future it is better to use "as long as".
As long as means that one thing will occur while another thing is still true.
Please let me know if my understanding is correct.

Cheers


CAVEAT: This is not a GMAT style SC question so please don't waste your time doing such questions. Invest it in quality questions from OG.
1. Even as they never forgave the Crusaders who overran their homeland, the Syrians have never absolved the French for taking territory from them.
(A) Even as they never forgave
(B) While they never forgave
(C) Just like they never forgave
(D) Similarly to not forgiving
(E) In spite of their never forgiving
Problem with B -> While means either a period of time it was happening (as a background) and is usually used along with continuous tenses. For example "While Arun was playing the guitar, Amit cooked the food". In fact a very interesting example of how we tend to make mistakes in everyday life. Spot the error on this one (answer in a separate post): "Offer is valid till stocks last"
So it means Syrians never absolved friends, and just as that was happening (same time and in a way dependent) they never forgave the Crusaders.
Problem with C -> You don't need "Just Like" as "Like" would suffice by itself. Also Like is used when comparing nouns and not entire clauses.
Problem with D -> To begin with it should be "Similar to" and not "Similarly to". However the bigger error is also the tense "forgiving" doesn't match with "absolved".
Problem with E -> "In spite of" mean "hone ke bavaajud" That means if they had not forgiven the Crusaders, they should have (which didn't happen) absolved the French. Makes no sense! Also has the same tense error as D.
"Even as" is the correct usage as it means "jab tha tab bhi". Example:
Even as a young boy he was known to explore different ways of doing things.
Hope this clears the confusion,
Arun
Arun,

I think the correct way of writing the sentence would be:
"Offer is valid as long as the stocks last"
I am saying this because we are not sure the exact time period(its a relative one). We can say "Offer is valid till 8p.m." since here we are definite about the exact end.
To summarize we use "till/until" to express a time in future which is rigid and not relative. For any relative point of time in future it is better to use "as long as".
As long as means that one thing will occur while another thing is still true.
Please let me know if my understanding is correct.
Cheers


Perfect!

You can say "as long as" or "while" since we are talking about a non-deterministic event (could be 1 hour or 1 week or 1 year). For deterministic events such as 8pm, or COB you can use "till".

Let me give some more "food for thought" in this thread in the coming weeks.

Arun
1. A peculiar feature of the embryonic mammalian circulatory system is that in the area of the heart the cells adhere to one another, beating in unison and adopting specialized orientations exclusive of one another.
(A) beating in unison and adopting
(B) they beat in unison while adopting
(C) beat in unison, and adopt
(D) beating in unison yet adopting
(E) even though they beat in unison and adopt
1. A peculiar feature of the embryonic mammalian circulatory system is that in the area of the heart the cells adhere to one another, beating in unison and adopting specialized orientations exclusive of one another.
(A) beating in unison and adopting
(B) they beat in unison while adopting
(C) beat in unison, and adopt
(D) beating in unison yet adopting
(E) even though they beat in unison and adopt

I have noticed 2 things in this question :
1). This question is implying a contrast as the X which are beating in unison adopt Y exclusive of one another.
2). "beating" and "adopting" are modifying the 'cells' which are adhere to one another.
Taking both of them simultaneously we will try to eliminate options
A and C can be eliminated as they are violating the first above mentioned point, 'and' does not show contrast between two actions of cells.
"While" is generally used to connect two simultaneous actions occurring in the present but not to show the contrast between them, moreover B also not maintains parallelism, so eliminated.
E is an awkward .
D properly shows the contrast with "yet" used as conjunction meaning "but" and also D maintains parallelism of the events, hence the best option.

Guys, correct me if somewhere I am wrong.
I have noticed 2 things in this question :
1). This question is implying a contrast as the X which are beating in unison adopt Y exclusive of one another.
2). "beating" and "adopting" are modifying the 'cells' which are adhere to one another.
Taking both of them simultaneously we will try to eliminate options
A and C can be eliminated as they are violating the first above mentioned point, 'and' does not show contrast between two actions of cells.
"While" is generally used to connect two simultaneous actions occurring in the present but not to show the contrast between them, moreover B also not maintains parallelism, so eliminated.
E is an awkward .
D properly shows the contrast with "yet" used as conjunction meaning "but" and also D maintains parallelism of the events, hence the best option.

Guys, correct me if somewhere I am wrong.


Ron at MGMAT has given a splendid explanation here:
A peculiar feature of the embryonic mammalian circulatory sy € Manhattan GMAT Forums

I don't think anything else is left to be said

Arun

955.Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with the
intention to turn in good results in both "bull" and "bear" markets.
(A) with the intention
(B) the intention of which is
(C) intended
(D) and intending
(E) so intended as

plz provide explanation for the correct one...

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1. After the Vietnam war Bettye Granther, a U.S. Army nurse, continued her efforts on behalf of injured Vietnamese children, providing medical care, helping to reunite estranged families, and the establishment of a fund for the childrens future education.
(A) the establishment of a fund for the childrens future education
(B) the establishing of a fund for the future education of children
(C) establishing a fund for the childrens future education
(D) establishing a fund for the childrens future education
(E) the establishment of a fund for the childrens future education

Confused b/w c&d...; basically between children's future education & childrens' future education... OA is C
1. After the Vietnam war Bettye Granther, a U.S. Army nurse, continued her efforts on behalf of injured Vietnamese children, providing medical care, helping to reunite estranged families, and the establishment of a fund for the children's future education.
(A) the establishment of a fund for the children's future education
(B) the establishing of a fund for the future education of children
(C) establishing a fund for the children's future education
(D) establishing a fund for the childrens' future education
(E) the establishment of a fund for the childrens' future education

Confused b/w c&d...; basically between children's future education & childrens' future education... OA is C


Option C is correct as children is already a plural noun so childrens' is wrong.
you can read more on
Plural Noun Forms

Asset allocators create portfolios, often in the form of mutual funds, with theintention to turn in good results in both "bull" and "bear" markets.
(A) with the intention
(B) the intention of which is
(C) intended
(D) and intending
(E) so intended as

Though the answer has been provided/discussed I just wanted to touch upon one thing: how to solve such questions when posed in the actual test.

Firstly immediately recognize that there are modifiers and that is what is going to be tested. Secondly recognize what they modify.

There is "Asset allocators create portfolios" and 2 modifiers:

1. often in the form of mutual funds

2. with the intention to turn in good results

Since 1 is not underlined it doesn't matter but still note that it modifies "portfolios". Let us now focus on 2 (this should take you not more than 20-30 seconds to get to this point on the actual test).

Let us now do a vertical scan:

A -> Keep for now

B -> "intention of which" but we don't know what is it that which is modifying so knock it off. The moment you get pronouns like which, who, whose, whom etc there is typically a flaw hidden to be unearthed

C -> intended modifies the noun immediately proceeding it - mutual funds or portfolios? Well let's just keep it.

D -> "and intending" - the moment you see "and" you realize its a list problem (i.e. parallel construction) so it should have been something like (which would have still been wrong): Asset Allocators creating portfolios.........and intending to......." so this is wrong. At this point the question should pop-up in your head - whose intention is it - asset allocators or portfolios. Again hold on to this thought.

E -> "so intended as to" as per the new version of GMAT is incorrect. To quote from OG 11th edition - "the construction 'so X as to Y' is not a correct idiom" (SC question #33 - "... so debilitating is it as to become an economic drain"). The problem with this is that like most idiomatic usage questions you either know it or you don't know it BTW interesting point here - see note below*

So we are left with A and C. This is where it becomes slightly tricky. Shouldn't it be the asset allocators who have "intentions" - how can something like portfolios (an inanimate object) have "intentions"? Well if you had marked A at this point I cannot blame you because the difference is very subtle.

Think about it this way - X gives you a good yield, Y gives good returns on the market, and Z gives you great return on investment. Should I replace X, Y and Z with fund managers, wealth managers and realtors to read Fun Manager gives you a good yield, Wealth Manager gives good returns on the market, and Realtor gives you great return on investment.

OR

Mutual Funds gives give you a good yield, Stock gives good returns on the market, and real estate gives you great return on investment.

The answer is clear. It is Portfolio and NOT the Asset Allocators which give the "good results".

So C wins.

Now let us go back to our question - does "with the intention" modify portfolios or mutual funds. Well the answer is portfolio because 1 modifier cannot modify another modifier. Example:

"Pagalguy, the largest forum in India, has over 1,00,000 registered users". Very clearly India doesn't have 1,00,000 registered users but PG does. So there you have your answer.

For each question if you are able to think through this way then you are on your way to mastering SC

Thanks,

Arun

* Interesting point here is that OG contradicts itself because in the 10th edition you had "The Emperor Augustus, it appears, commissioned an idealized sculpture portrait, the features of which are so unrealistic as to constitute what one scholar calls an 'artificial face.'" The explanation for the same is given as "Choice A, which uses the clear, concise, and idiomatic construction 'so unrealistic as to constitute,' is best.
1. As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s, so that they could learn to fall without being hurt.
(A) As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s
(B) As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live during the 1950s with their disabilities were helped to practice falling
(C) Young polio victims learning to live during the 1950s with their disabilities were helped to practice falling as part of their therapy
(D) Young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s as part of their therapy
(E) During the 1950s, as part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling

Slightly confused regarding the use of the pronoun " their" in the above problem...

Additionally, which sentence uses the pronoun correcty..

1. The doctors as a part of their practice, prescribed aspirin to the patients..
2. As a part of their practice, doctors prescribed aspirin to the patients.
1. As the housing affordability gap widens, middle-income families are especially hard-hit, and these families can no longer qualify to buy homes, and rising rental rates force them to use far more than the standard 25 percent of their incomes for housing, leaving them with no equity or tax write-offs to offset the expenditures.
(A) and these families can no longer qualify to buy homes, and
(B) since these families can no longer afford to buy homes, furthermore
(C) for these families can no longer afford to buy homes, yet
(D) and these families can no longer afford to buy homes; however,
(E) and these families can no longer afford to buy homes, for
1. As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s, so that they could learn to fall without being hurt.
(A) As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s
(B) As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live during the 1950s with their disabilities were helped to practice falling
(C) Young polio victims learning to live during the 1950s with their disabilities were helped to practice falling as part of their therapy
(D) Young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s as part of their therapy
(E) During the 1950s, as part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling

Slightly confused regarding the use of the pronoun " their" in the above problem...

Additionally, which sentence uses the pronoun correcty..

1. The doctors as a part of their practice, prescribed aspirin to the patients..
2. As a part of their practice, doctors prescribed aspirin to the patients.


Not sure, but will go with (B).
For your eg:, choice (2) is more appropriate than choice (1). In the first sentence doctors are compared with practice which is wrong.
1. As the housing affordability gap widens, middle-income families are especially hard-hit, and these families can no longer qualify to buy homes, and rising rental rates force them to use far more than the standard 25 percent of their incomes for housing, leaving them with no equity or tax write-offs to offset the expenditures.
(A) and these families can no longer qualify to buy homes, and
(B) since these families can no longer afford to buy homes, furthermore
(C) for these families can no longer afford to buy homes, yet
(D) and these families can no longer afford to buy homes; however,
(E) and these families can no longer afford to buy homes, for


In (E), "for" makes the reasoning in second part more concrete than other choices to the fact given in first clause.
1. As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s, so that they could learn to fall without being hurt.
(A) As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s
(B) As part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live during the 1950s with their disabilities were helped to practice falling
(C) Young polio victims learning to live during the 1950s with their disabilities were helped to practice falling as part of their therapy
(D) Young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling during the 1950s as part of their therapy
(E) During the 1950s, as part of their therapy, young polio victims learning to live with their disabilities were helped to practice falling

Slightly confused regarding the use of the pronoun " their" in the above problem...

Additionally, which sentence uses the pronoun correcty..

1. The doctors as a part of their practice, prescribed aspirin to the patients..
2. As a part of their practice, doctors prescribed aspirin to the patients.


Its undoubtedly a tricky one
Is that E

1. The doctors as a part of their practice, prescribed aspirin to the patients..
2. As a part of their practice, doctors prescribed aspirin to the patients

Second one appropriately used the pronoun "their" which clearly refers to noun "doctor"

Reason : noun is suitably placed with its modifying phrase, in "As a part of

their practice"(modifying phrase), "doctor"(modified noun) while A is a clear

case of misplaced modifier as phrase "as a part of their practice" is modifying

the noun "doctor" and the phrase"prescribed aspirin to the patients" is also

modifying the noun "doctor", but this noun is not placed near to the phrase


Hope it helps
1. As the housing affordability gap widens, middle-income families are especially hard-hit, and these families can no longer qualify to buy homes, and rising rental rates force them to use far more than the standard 25 percent of their incomes for housing, leaving them with no equity or tax write-offs to offset the expenditures.
(A) and these families can no longer qualify to buy homes, and
(B) since these families can no longer afford to buy homes, furthermore
(C) for these families can no longer afford to buy homes, yet
(D) and these families can no longer afford to buy homes; however,
(E) and these families can no longer afford to buy homes, for


I would go with B, I think this sentence shows the effect of "widening of housing affordability" on "middle income families", so its better to use conjunction "since" which clearly reflects the effect of the first action on second and additional effect of cause is better shown by "furthermore"
atrish22 Says
I would go with B, I think this sentence shows the effect of "widening of housing affordability" on "middle income families", so its better to use conjunction "since" which clearly reflects the effect of the first action on second and additional effect of cause is better shown by "furthermore"


OA is C.. i'm still confused b/w C