Barcelona have become a bunch of divers and cry babies...I have no doubt they would be 10% of the team they are without messi...gone are the classy days of Ronaldinho ...I used to love see barcelona those days...As for mourinho where is written you have t play attacking football every match...He does what will be effective PERIOD.... It ll be a disgrace if this Barca team wins the ECC ... First time in my life am gonna be cheering for Man Utd:lookround::lookround:
PS- This is the team that put on the pitch showers to stop Inter players celebrating last year :D
i really believe that the red card to RvP was just as harsh as the red card to Pepe last night...and with main front man gone it was really difficult for Arsenal to score an extra goal...playing with 10 men against a team like Barca is a daunting task and eventually the team has to pay the price...it's was indeed a magic when Inter had a check on Barca last year with 10 men... but last night i felt like punching pedro and biscuits on face when both were making face like a crying baby...whenever a Barca player was going down the whole Barca team was coming up front to jeer the fouling player...even Valdes didn't wanted to be left out...apart from the 2 goals scored there is nothing to be cheered about...the same way they went to final couple of years ago...but this time i want United to winand I will be cheering for United just like I cheer for Gunners...not coz I want United to win but coz I want crying Barca to lose...
i really believe that the red card to RvP was just as harsh as the red card to Pepe last night...and with main front man gone it was really difficult for Arsenal to score an extra goal...playing with 10 men against a team like Barca is a daunting task and eventually the team has to pay the price...it's was indeed a magic when Inter had a check on Barca last year with 10 men... but last night i felt like punching pedro and biscuits on face when both were making face like a crying baby...whenever a Barca player was going down the whole Barca team was coming up front to jeer the fouling player...even Valdes didn't wanted to be left out...apart from the 2 goals scored there is nothing to be cheered about...the same way they went to final couple of years ago...but this time i want United to winand I will be cheering for United just like I cheer for Gunners...not coz I want United to win but coz I want crying Barca to lose...
First of all sorry dude. I was a bit harsh in replying to you yesterday. Things in my life are bad and probably the frustration came out yesterday. I apologize for that.
Regarding the Barcelona Madrid game , I came to know that the referee Stark was the same one who officiated in the infamous Barcelona-Chelsea game in the champions league semis. When someone has that kind of record and when someone has publicly praised Messi , how can you ask him to referee a game of such importance. But sadly thats how it was and Madrid were on the losing side this time. When Mourinho lost 5-0 to Barcelona at the Camp Nou , he said to his team not to be sorry and that they might have to come to the Camp Nou again. What a forecast that was and it was proved right. Great sides show character and come back when the odds are down. If Madrid are a great side or want to become one , they had to defeat Barcelona and it cant be a better opportunity to defeat the worlds best team at their home. Even if they lose in the process I am hoping to see a much better game from Madrid. Let the Kaka's Benzema's and Ronaldo's get to show their attacking side. Let Barcelona score 5 but let Madrid score 7.
Sergio Busqets has always been a diver.. he would make a good career in acting.. He puts his hand on his face when he neve had any contact on his face..
Did Arbolea bodychecked Pedro or Pedro ran into him desp and holds his hand on his eye when hes hit on a shoulder..
Barca really have become bunch of divers n cry babies.. Mourinho was upset bcz he had Kaka on to replace Lass Diarra and it disrepted everything for him..
his full interview literally reflected his utter grudge against losing to Barca in CL due to poor refreeing..
Madrid aren't any saints either Pepe is a serial offender....he was banned for 10games for a tackle which almost ended one's career....also Marcelo stamped on Pedro which led to him being taken off.....also Lass should've been booked...the better team won SIMPLES.....if you have 22% of the ball at home you deserve nothing......there was only one team which wanted to play football.....and that was Barcelona......if the worlds most expensive team has to resort to tactics like that it DESERVES TO LOSE........and regd. Pepe's sending off it was a sending off......his reputation also went against him......
Why was Mourinho not playing with a recognised striker in the 1st half given that Barca had a midfielder playing at CB......he played a midfield of Pepe,Lass and Xabi when he had the likes of Kaka....he was playing Ozil out wide.....Barca didn't even have their best AM in Iniesta.......Mourinho deserved what he got......
Don't you think that there are plenty of questions that can be asked in favour of Barca as well? ... and the argument can be carried on forever...
Yes I admit that so called 'buiscuits' and pedro dived but if you have watched the match attentively you must have noticed that Marcelo and Di Maria are no short in that 'acting' talent either... (I am particularly sorry about Di Maria.. he is such a gem getting wasted). Ohh you guys (the famous Barca bashers here) must have chosen to ignore the Marcelo walking "gently" on Pedro or Adebayor showing glimpses of his boxing skills or Marcelo trying to check the strength of his elbow on the chest of "the buiscuit"...
Yes I admit PEPE should have avoided the RED card but can you ignore the fact that under Mou's regime, particularly against Barca, his role is only to kick (which you might affectionately call hard tackles, as long as it is not against your own team) Messi, Xavi or Iniesta (I still think high studed challenges, even if unintentional, are not taken very easily these days and those type of challenges can end any footballers career).. it was just the due that he got...
It is shame that Madrid with so many excellent world beaters are playing with less than 30 % possesion. Mou has converted KAKA into a bench warmer (despite he is fit now and hitting well), Ozil a clueless fellow (against Barca) and Di Maria a diver. And you know, I am not the first man who thinks so.. you must have read Madrid legend Di Stefano's comments by now.. also you can read what Zidane thinks... Also would you guys like to check what Platini thinks about Mou?
And yeah, you guys will comeback saying that Mou has every right to play the way he wants his team to .. right.. no denial ... but I also must remind you the sheer amount of reverence Madrid generates is for their passion for beautiful football not for 29% possesion ..
I will end it with one simple quote .. this time Pep played the Mou's way, Mou surely has got a MATCH ...
Don't you think that there are plenty of questions that can be asked in favour of Barca as well? ... and the argument can be carried on forever...
Yes I admit that so called 'buiscuits' and pedro dived but if you have watched the match attentively you must have noticed that Marcelo and Di Maria are no short in that 'acting' talent either... (I am particularly sorry about Di Maria.. he is such a gem getting wasted). Ohh you guys (the famous Barca bashers here) must have chosen to ignore the Marcelo walking "gently" on Pedro or Adebayor showing glimpses of his boxing skills or Marcelo trying to check the strength of his elbow on the chest of "the buiscuit"...
Yes I admit PEPE should have avoided the RED card but can you ignore the fact that under Mou's regime, particularly against Barca, his role is only to kick (which you might affectionately call hard tackles, as long as it is not against your own team) Messi, Xavi or Iniesta (I still think high studed challenges, even if unintentional, are not taken very easily these days and those type of challenges can end any footballers career).. it was just the due that he got...
It is shame that Madrid with so many excellent world beaters are playing with less than 30 % possesion. Mou has converted KAKA into a bench warmer (despite he is fit now and hitting well), Ozil a clueless fellow (against Barca) and Di Maria a diver. And you know, I am not the first man who thinks so.. you must have read Madrid legend Di Stefano's comments by now.. also you can read what Zidane thinks... Also would you guys like to check what Platini thinks about Mou?
And yeah, you guys will comeback saying that Mou has every right to play the way he wants his team to .. right.. no denial ... but I also must remind you the sheer amount of reverence Madrid generates is for their passion for beautiful football not for 29% possesion ..
I will end it with one simple quote .. this time Pep played the Mou's way, Mou surely has got a MATCH ...
Agreed to most of ur points... except Pepe should have avoided a RED CARD.. or Refree should have avoided a RED n given a YELLOW..
Marcelo also did wrong things he put a foot over Pedro's leg and Abedayor was non sense
But Sir what if Pepe had not been given A RED and KAKA comes on for Lass and Higuain for Di Maria or Abedayor.. WE dnt knw it might have been the same result or not.. though i doubt it might have changed the result but maybe it could have been 1-0 loss or a 2-1 loss for Madrid
No ifs n buts Barca was always the better team by leaps n bounds.. but Surrounding the Refree and converting a YELLOW into RED just like pervert Germans did last year against Man United for Rafael was nothing more than a disgraceful act..
I will tell u why Marcelo cheekily thumped Pedro's leg bcz he dived and generated a stupid controversy in 1st Half..
Young Brazilians have a habit of losing termperament be it Rafael When Carragher wasnt shown RED for a tackle against Nani.. so that was the after effect of what happend in 1st Half n Pepe 's exit..
P.S. I m a Man United fan .. so saying it as a neutral though i love Barcelona more than Madrid anyday..
Agreed to most of ur points... except Pepe should have avoided a RED CARD.. or Refree should have avoided a RED n given a YELLOW..
Marcelo also did wrong things he put a foot over Pedro's leg and Abedayor was non sense
But Sir what if Pepe had not been given A RED and KAKA comes on for Lass and Higuain for Di Maria or Abedayor.. WE dnt knw it might have been the same result or not.. though i doubt it might have changed the result but maybe it could have been 1-0 loss or a 2-1 loss for Madrid
No ifs n buts Barca was always the better team by leaps n bounds.. but Surrounding the Refree and converting a YELLOW into RED just like pervert Germans did last year against Man United for Rafael was nothing more than a disgraceful act..
I will tell u why Marcelo cheekily thumped Pedro's leg bcz he dived and generated a stupid controversy in 1st Half..
Young Brazilians have a habit of losing termperament be it Rafael When Carragher wasnt shown RED for a tackle against Nani.. so that was the after effect of what happend in 1st Half n Pepe 's exit..
P.S. I m a Man United fan .. so saying it as a neutral though i love Barcelona more than Madrid anyday..
I just wish the final between Barca and Man Utd becomes a treat to watch.. I never supported Man Utd but always respected for obvious reasons and I am sure SAF will keep the game as a game and won't make a circus out of it...
No more comments on this. C'ya at Wembley:thumbsup:
As good a team Barcelona is, they also had the advantage of refering decisions going their way a lot many times....
> Against Chelsea in the semi-finals- Four clear penalties not given and a clear sending off. And a goal that was offside
> Against Arsenal- Robin Van Persie and Arsene Wenger send off.
> Yesterdays match: Pepe sending off was highly debatable. Oscar winning performances by Busquets and Alves. Everyone saw how the Barca players surrounded the referee after Pepe committee the foul.
The amount of dissent shown by Alves and Mascherano against refering decisions would have resulted in red-cards had they being playing in England. Infact Mascherano was even once sent-off against ManUtd a couple of years ago while playing for liverpool.
As irritating as Mourinho is , his points regarding Barcelona getting favourable decisions certainly hold weight.
To add to that people quoting possession being proportional to "Quality of football" If teams could ve won matches by keeping possession and passing around Arsenal would be world club champions :drinking:. It takes .01% of possession to score a winning goal. Passing around the ball at the back doesnt make ur quality of football any better
PS- They might be very good footballers but their off the field behavior is awful. The way they tried to poach Cesc last year was disgusting. Though Real did the same with ronaldo
i really believe that the red card to RvP was just as harsh as the red card to Pepe last night...and with main front man gone it was really difficult for Arsenal to score an extra goal...playing with 10 men against a team like Barca is a daunting task and eventually the team has to pay the price...it's was indeed a magic when Inter had a check on Barca last year with 10 men... but last night i felt like punching pedro and biscuits on face when both were making face like a crying baby...whenever a Barca player was going down the whole Barca team was coming up front to jeer the fouling player...even Valdes didn't wanted to be left out...apart from the 2 goals scored there is nothing to be cheered about...the same way they went to final couple of years ago...but this time i want United to winand I will be cheering for United just like I cheer for Gunners...not coz I want United to win but coz I want crying Barca to lose...
agree that pedro used cry baby tactics.............. but apart from all controversies, at the start of match mourinho should have included higauin and kaka in his lineup..why he was more inclined to stop barca scoring away goal....rather then scoring first........come on you are playing in front of your home crowd in santiago bernabeau and you have attacking players like kaka,ronaldo,higauin,de maria, in your team why dont he played according to his strengh.........and yes second goal of messi was scored when he ran past five players of madrid why not give him credit on this and what effect would sending off pepe has on this goal.......when five of your players cant stop a single man .......
(10 men inter stopped barca for scoring a goal for 75 minutes and 10 man real cant stop them from scoring two goals for 30 minutes)
agree that pedro used cry baby tactics.............. but apart from all controversies, at the start of match mourinho should have included higauin and kaka in his lineup..why he was more inclined to stop barca scoring away goal....come on you are playing in front of your home crowd in santiago bernabeau and you have attacking players like kaka,ronaldo,higauin,de maria, in your team why dont he played according to his strengh.........and yes second goal of messi was scored when he ran past five players of madrid why not give him credit on this and what effect would sending off pepe has on this goal.......when five of your players cant stop a single man .......
(10 men inter stopped barca for scoring a goal for 75 minutes and 10 man real cant stop them from scoring two goals for 30 minutes)
Pepe has been used by mourinho in the last 3 matches to man mark Messi. That is his only job that is why messi has not been able to score except for the penalty. That is why as soon as he was sent off messi scored 2. And last years Inter defense was much better than the current RM defense with the likes of Lucio in the centre. Inter were a lot more physical and organized than RM. Italian teams are more used to playing defensive tactics than Spanish Teams.
RM is gonna do a lot better under JM next year if he stays back if he brings in 2-3 of his type of players esp in defense. JM's 2nd in a club is always his best.
The Barca -Arsenal game is always a benchmark here...
1> A clear legal goal of Messi that was dismissed in that match. Was it a right decision? Had it been a 2 -2 at Emirates I think whether RVP gets a marching order or not might not have come up even? And everybody says Barca gets the referee's favour.
2> In that very match, a clear penalty was not awarded? And everybody says Barca gets Referee's favour.
Ok lets look back at the last year's Semis...
3> Remember Milito's clearly offside goal? And there you go, Barac gets the referee's favour
Awesome!!!
Now coming to quality of football... I don't need to mention how many of the legends of the game subscribe to the idea that Barca delivers the highest quality.. for example take the recent comments by SAF (I hope people give me a nod that SAF understands football).
And about posessional game.. I agree that only posession is not everything.. but when it is always around the D box of the opponent and irrespective of the quality of the opponent one has to admit it...
P.S. Recently there was a news about a teenager transfer from La Masia to Arsenal, remember Miguel Toral Harper issue?
So the first leg of El Classico is finally over.Really I had to say this "Shame on you Dani Alves"People say Barca are the best team in the world currentlY I am not arguing with them,but yesterday they showed their true characters.Actually Pep was really pissed after the Copa Del Rey final loss to Mourinho,one had to admit anyday J.M is a better tactician than Pep,but Pep coulddn't accept the fact & indulged his cry babies in playing that foul & dive game.Yesterday's match was more of a melodrama,by Barca players rather than a football match,I was watching the match as a neutral and got totally pissed off after the match,I don't want to argue on who deserved to win,but if this the way the so called "World's best team"plays then I have nothing to say.Anyways if Barca manages to come to Wembley which is looking more than obvious now(until J.M & CR7 produces some magic at Camp Nou)we'll show them their actual place,we'll rip them up & down,and mark my words we "THE RED DEVILS" will make the cry babies cry like hell.
We all anticipated just like the year when Barca knocked Chelsea out in CL.. Mourinho wont take up loss easily but this time hes gone too far i guess by labelling UNICEF 's power etc
Hes always known for such bust ups.. heres his past record as we all knw..
Truly agree with Redknapp it was a Hell Classico than being an El Classico..
A short managerial summary
We all knw in Europe JM has a tactic to stiffle opp players and game to avoid free flowing game and rhythm to opp players and then his team wud go for a counter.. its effective but looks ugly and disgusting.. He came up with the same plan
but Pep just asked his players to throw some dirt on JM's face and they did it by playacting , diving , surrounding and influencing the Refree.. Mybe Barca were raging with their Copa Del Rey loss which also prompted such actions..
P.S. I will go for a fine and 3-4 match Touchline ban for JM.. i think thats what UEFA will do..
i think jose was right. Barca are enjoying favor from refrees. evident against chelsea, arsenal, madrid. I believe that whenever any team has disrupted their flowing football tactically and or are really formidable, then they resort to such cheap theaterics.
It is a shame for football fan to see biscuits,alves pedro theaterics when they were hardly fouled and the no of barca players running to the refree to turn a yellow into red. It just indicates that they curry favor from somewhere because the decision always goes in their favor.
It also indicates to some extent the obsession that players have for winning, pep wanting to outsmart jose (though he is no way near to jose.. tactically).
People say that madrid was playing defensively. But the same goes for barca too. In the entire first half I could hardly remember their fullbacks venturing forward. They got goals and looked great only because of 2 expectional players namely xavi, messi.
this UCL game has become more than match also because la liga=> barca copa de rel=> madrid and so this victory would clearly show which team is superior ,manager is superior. So i believe barca resorted to such cheap stuff.
I used to admire Barca for their football but they have lost all respect from me. I hope Madrid make a comeback for the sake of fairness in the tie. And if Barcelona make it to the finals , will be desperately praying for a Schalke/United win.
I used to admire Barca for their football but they have lost all respect from me. I hope Madrid make a comeback for the sake of fairness in the tie. And if Barcelona make it to the finals , will be desperately praying for a Schalke/United win.
Oscars for
Best Actor - Sergio Biscuits Best supporting Actor- Dani Alves Best Director - Pep G:cheerio::cheerio:
Actually Pep was really pissed after the Copa Del Rey final loss to Mourinho,one had to admit anyday J.M is a better tactician than Pep,but Pep coulddn't accept the fact & indulged his cry babies in playing that foul & dive game.Yesterday's match was more of a melodrama,by Barca players rather than a football match,I was watching the match as a neutral and got totally pissed off after the match,I don't want to argue on who deserved to win,but if this the way the so called "World's best team"plays then I have nothing to say.Anyways if Barca manages to come to Wembley which is looking more than obvious now(until J.M & CR7 produces some magic at Camp Nou)we'll show them their actual place,we'll rip them up & down,and mark my words we "THE RED DEVILS" will make the cry babies cry like hell.
