Oh yeah!! I never posted on those issues any day, just waiting for this day. Play act ??? Better you research little more about your coach and how he clinched all his titles. Don't get me wrong buddy, I have nothing against Real, even I always wanted Real to play like original Real (the Real of Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo Sr.). I am a big fan of them. The real Galacticos.
Its on your face Mr Moronho... try it next year.
I have only one thing to say. Barcelona have 4 CL title and Real Madrid have 9. So you guys have only 5 titles before you overtake Real Madrid.
As they say every dog has its day.
PS : You better not distort names like this and get banned
PS : You better not distort names like this and get banned
Sirjee, I beg to differ. Barca is the best footballing side I have ever seen. I haven't seen Van Basten's Milan. But after 1995, I have not seen any side playing football better than this on regular basis. They say every dog has its day but this Barca is having generations.
I have only one thing to say. Barcelona have 4 CL title and Real Madrid have 9. So you guys have only 5 titles before you overtake Real Madrid.
As they say every dog has its day.
PS : You better not distort names like this and get banned
As I said, I may be a cule but still I respect Real (Many of my fav plalyers played for you). All I have against you, is against your coach. Nothing pesonal buddy !! He is anti-football and that is IMO and I think I have that right.
I wish you come back strong next year ...
P.S. I know PG rules. P.P.S. We were never an underdog, forget about Dog. May be calling us a dog can earn you a ban. Please don't act as sore losers. Real is more than that. P.P.P.S. I have nothing to accept that Real is the most sucessful club in the world and most illustrious. but this is our night, please allow us that space and respect it.
No crazy ref decisions. No playacting. Why the hell didn't this happen in El Classico.
Two teams were looking to play football instead of the one?;) Ferguson has to sort his central midfield problems once and for all, it's been a huge thorn for nearly a decade now. Not that any formation would have made a huge difference I still think the 4-4-2 was a bad idea, you cannot carry passengers like Hernandez against a team like Barcelona.
Two teams were looking to play football instead of the one?;) Ferguson has to sort his central midfield problems once and for all, it's been a huge thorn for nearly a decade now. Not that any formation would have made a huge difference I still think the 4-4-2 was a bad idea, you cannot carry passengers like Hernandez against a team like Barcelona.
What match were u watchn.. It was a 4-4-1-1 formation.. As per CM u r right.. The only sol. that we cudnt hav was Owen Hargreaves.. I m proud of Man Utd team for they gave evrythng they had bt they were beaten by 1 f the best teams the planet has witnessed evr since Ajax in 80s n Milan n Man Utd in 90s..
As for Arsenal Rumours i have got following reliable info abt transfers..
1. Chris Samba- 8 M bid has been made and his 55 K week wages were agreed in Jan before Wenger thout of delaying his signing till summer..:D:D 2. Ricky Alvarez- 10 M.. i hav been told Arsenal are on the heels of this South American.. i havent seen him but still negotiating a fee with Velez Sarsfield for the 23 yr old..!! 3. Falcao- A bid has been made by Arsenal as confirmed by his agent.. Porto is asking for 26 M Pounds(30 M Euros i.e. his full buyout fee) but Arsenal are offering Carlos Vela + 15-18 M Pounds.. But I Expect the deal to go thru..!!
Denilson , Bendtner and Clichy are certain to be shipped out this summer
In another news i hav been confirmed by a Chelsea Editor from sources that Harry Redknapp to Chelsea is BS paper talk..!! He is only in running for the England Job post Euro 2012 after Fabio Capello leaves..
What an exhibition of football yesterday night, after the 5-0 demolition of Real Madrid, this was the next best game for Barca this season, thoroughly enjoyed it !
can anyone tell me why giuseppe rossi was sold ???
from what i have seen when he was at OT, he was really superb. He looks very silky player.Playing style is similar way to nasri, fabregas, messi. I am not comparing their talents here, but the fact is he was a really great signing, someone who should not have been sold so quickly. His left foot is good, balance again is great.Looks a wonderful player to watch.He is a natural left-footed player like giggs.
if manutd make a move, they will get him bcoz of buyout clause, but then they will have to empty their pockets for the same.now valued at around 30 million..
Similar situation as barca: sold fabregas quite early to arsenal, now if they want him back would have to spend huge.
how good are Jon Toral and Hector Bellerin ??? is deal with arsenal done or just a rumor ???
Is arsenal building barca B team also having similar playing style too ??? Francisco Merida, Ignasi Miquel and current Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas all left Catalunya to join Wenger's side.
if they are good players, then one thing is for sure, one stop for potential young starlets, camp nou
Nopes, things were different that time. Van Bronckhorst was part of the deal now they say they were reluctant to sell Cesc.
I dnt rememebr much but i will still try to explain as much i can as per my memory..!!
as far as i remember Van Bronckhorst was signed from Arsenal for 2 Million Euros in a straight transfer fee deal . i dnt think it was a p/e deal with Fabregas..
Yaar u cnt offer a contract untill a player is 18 in Spain but as per British laws English clubs can sign EU players at the age of 16 by a proper contract. so if u sign a contract with a player who has been part of other clubs academy then u have to pay compensation for his Youth development thats it.. its nt a transfer fee its rather a minimal compensation around 1-2 M
Arsenal promised him more apperances and he went to Arsenal.. Same is the case with Toral.. as soon as he turned 16 Arsenal got hold of him before Barca could give him a pre contractual agreement or even think abt it
Where as Fran Merida signed a pre contract and Arsenal signed him at the age of 16 and they had to pay a 2.1 M Fine for it bcz Merida had signed a pre contractual agreement..
Actually Barca became smart after Fabregas case bcz it was a shock move for them as they never offered him a pre contractual agreement as they never knew this mite happen but again it happened with Toral
but same thing comes back again with Toral case.. Toral case was still different as he is half Spanish and Half English.. so it isnt unethical but yes he will certainly be called a Barca DNA or Youth product when he establishes himself as a renouned world player..
Dnt rebuke me bhai logo for this post i m just tryin to explain the diff in Spanish and English system and not blaming any club..!!
P.S. its kinda poaching and not ethical as pple say but i still think its a smart poaching move financially for clubs in order to avoid huge sums of transfer fees for young talents..
I dnt rememebr much but i will still try to explain as much i can as per my memory..!!
Yaar u cnt offer a contract untill a player is 18 in Spain but as per British laws English clubs can sign EU players at the age of 16 by a proper contract. so if u sign a contract with a player who has been part of other clubs academy then u have to pay compensation for his Youth development thats it.. its nt a transfer fee its rather a minimal compensation around 1-2 M
Arsenal promised him more apperances and he went to Arsenal.. Same is the case with Toral.. as soon as he turned 16 Arsenal got hold of him before Barca could give him a pre contractual agreement or even think abt it
P.S. its kinda poaching and not ethical as pple say but i still think its a smart poaching move financially for clubs in order to avoid huge sums of transfer fees for young talents..
Thats precisely the reason Fabregas moved.
When one is a Barca youth product he always feel unsecured due to the contractual complication as well as first team chances. Unless one is highly backed by Barca management young guys feel unsecured. For example Thiago initially was of mind to leave the club this summer but then he is backed hugely there. Now he wants to stay. As with Toral he comes after Doulefeu, Rafa etc in terms of rank. Hence its ok for him to move. But the biggest prospect Doulefeu, despite having many lures decided to stay and now thought to be the next super star from the backyard.
So I think its a mixed reason not solely contractual most of the time.
Also about Neymar saga... there is a huge chance that he will come to Barca just because Pep is not a manager at Barca and he only can ask for a guy, not decide. It is learnt that Pep has given two requests Rossi and Fab. Fab is his first choice. On the other hand Rossel wants another Dinho. His choice is to bring Neymar to Barca. Probably Rossel - Neymar and Pep - Fab is the combo thats going to happen. More so when Pep is more than likely to leave Barca in near future if not this summer itself.
Also, I don't know, but I feel Aguero has a less chance to go to RM instead he has a fair chance at Chelsea as Chelsea is the only team I see who can pay 45 million or nearby and can guarantee him top class football (I am not undermining City on its purchasing power but it doesn't have that big appeal yet for a player of Aguero's status).
It was no doubt the best match of this season if not the best final (pool v milan 05) Barcelona played really well great passing dominated the midfield completely .SAF needs to sign a midfielder to replace scholes.I don't know why he signs young player hernandez could n't even get the ball and even valencia was very bad.Ronaldo was a dream signing.Next season i c mancity winning the EPL . For MADRID Nuri sahin and oezil will make a good pair .I don't know why they signed altintop he is not that good and after having enough midfielders wth they signed him.Coentrao wil be a good addition to the side will replace poor albiol. Barca in current form can easily win 3 CL title in 5 years and if they find good replacement of xavi and iniesta they can easily equal the record of madrid within 7 years .And no 1 is going to bid for priceless messi Arsenal will miss cl spot if they don't reform their squad or change their manager
It was no doubt the best match of this season if not the best final (pool v milan 05) Barcelona played really well great passing dominated the midfield completely .SAF needs to sign a midfielder to replace scholes.I don't know why he signs young player hernandez could n't even get the ball and even valencia was very bad.Ronaldo was a dream signing.Next season i c mancity winning the EPL . For MADRID Nuri sahin and oezil will make a good pair .I don't know why they signed altintop he is not that good and after having enough midfielders wth they signed him.Coentrao wil be a good addition to the side will replace poor albiol. Barca in current form can easily win 3 CL title in 5 years and if they find good replacement of xavi and iniesta they can easily equal the record of madrid within 7 years .And no 1 is going to bid for priceless messi Arsenal will miss cl spot if they don't reform their squad or change their manager
I don't know as like many other, Why Madrid needs Coentrao. Don't they see they have Marcelo. Coentrao is particularly excellent so is Marcelo. In any case if he comes Marcelo will become a Benz and that will be very sad for football lovers.
This kind of polarization of stars really making this game predictable if not boring.
By the way, no one is talking about Spartak Moscow duo Willan and Doglas Costa.I think they will be Europe's top clubs this year. I just hope their talents have not gone unntoiced.
Also about Neymar saga... there is a huge chance that he will come to Barca just because Pep is not a manager at Barca and he only can ask for a guy, not decide. It is learnt that Pep has given two requests Rossi and Fab. Fab is his first choice. On the other hand Rossel wants another Dinho. His choice is to bring Neymar to Barca. Probably Rossel - Neymar and Pep - Fab is the combo thats going to happen. More so when Pep is more than likely to leave Barca in near future if not this summer itself.
Also, I don't know, but I feel Aguero has a less chance to go to RM instead he has a fair chance at Chelsea as Chelsea is the only team I see who can pay 45 million or nearby and can guarantee him top class football (I am not undermining City on its purchasing power but it doesn't have that big appeal yet for a player of Aguero's status).
AS for Neymar buddy its a complicated Contract as i have told before with a 3rd party ownership too involved.. It will not be the bidding war but rather come down to the Player.. Chelsea's interest is much more concrete than Barca at this moment.. I can tell u this for certain.!! The problem with Santos is not the amount or the bid its 3rd party ownership involved so they have to sort that out before he can be transferred..!
Rossi is a priority but i think they will be priced out of a move for him as Villareal will demand 30 M atleast for him unless he forces a transfer move with a transfer request which is unlikely
Barca will have to stump 60 M for those 2 targets and it is hell f an amount in 1 window to be spent on just 2 players.. Bojan will be part of the deal or maybe Affelay either of them with a 30 M bid for Fabregas will seal Fabregas to Barca move..!!
AS per Aguero I have informed pple here Chelsea and Man Utd tried to put a package for him with economic rights etc in his personal terms so as to convince him personal terms but it isnt the case
He snubbed Man Utd and Chelsea offers which he disclosed a cple of days later after i told here.. The transfer amount is not the issue but his personal terms are a big issue for almost every club interested in him
He is on a obsene salary of post tax 110 K a week at Atlethico Madrid and Chelsea and Man Utd will have to offer him around 200 K aweek to match that wages pre tax. As tax rate hovers around 50 % in England to be precise 53 % plus he is not ready to take a pay cut for a move to EPL big horses
There are two issues with him offering that high salary as ultimately he will move to RM in a cple of seasons from any club he joins if AM doesnt allow his RM move nw. So u cannot take him asa guarantee to stay at club for a long period where ever he goes.. I have from good source why AM is worried abt his transfer to RM bcz AM and RM have an agreement in place for Aguero to move to RM if they pay full buyout clause without any tax required to pay..!!
Considering the rivalry it wnt happen or the transfer saga will be stretched out..!!
Other options inlcude Juventus who have enquired but with no CL league football he wnt be moving to them Man City mite go for him if Tevez who is certain to leave as per me either to Inter or to RM.. they have a uper hand as they have a CL spot plus can offer him the greed he wants in his salary
P.S. Wenger never buys too much untill he sells big..!! He will buy certainly and spend gud money this summer as Fabregas , Clichy , Bendtner and Denilson are expected to move and give him a Sale Value of 45- 50 M plus a free player in either Bojan or Affelay.. So Happy Shopping Gunners..!!
Bhai logo whose club fan are u both.. I mean ur boyhood club like every player has now a days..!!
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I dnt think it was a cash+ player exchange..!! I told u the details i remember of that time..!! U r getting confused bhai..!! No_Talent is right that was the real reason which i have summed up in the post..!!
why dnt u guyzz forget a 16 yr old boy took the decision so its very easy to convince a 16 yr old boy than would have been to convince a 20 yr old Fabregas to move to Arsenal
I dnt think whats the fuss abt it..!! he went to Arsenal so it was his decision.. and nw he wants to go back play wid his academy teenage frends in the same team..!! plus the more he plays for Barca more chances of him establishing in the national team and being a future Captain..!!
I dnt think convincing him to play for 1 more yr will do any good to Arsenal as his heart is set there in Nou Camp and i can see thats the reason why Wenger could not extract the best out of him this year..!!
1 of my best frends and Arsenal fan told me a point for Fabregas that i would like to say.. He said dnt leave before Ramsey and Wilshere has established themselves..
Gunners and Los Blaugrana fans plzz respect Fabregas for his decision then and nw..!! Its his dream just as we have in our lives.. We dnt get a chance to fulfill it everyday..!!;);)
Fabregas has a contract till 2014 if I am not mistaken and he can buy it out in 2013...
Xavi is 31 right now....so the timing is perfect...and at that time Fabregas can leave for close to nothing because his contract will be nearing its end....its this reason why Barca haven't been trying tooth and nail to get him...
