🐈 CAT Exam 2020-21 Preparation, Exam Dates, Results & Discussion – PaGaLGuY (Part 1)

SJMSOM IIT Bombay is not providing Hostel and proposing online classes for two semesters, it would definitely impact candidates and this year their waiting list movement would be very unpredictible. It might go very high 

Can anyone suggest good books for DILR preperation ??

Anyone willing to sell Arun Sharma DI & LR books, please DM me. Preferred south people due to delay in deliveries coz of lockdown. 

I have converted XL and IIML. Which one should I go to?


Bal Kalakar:

Converted IIFT-D..Converted MDI PGPIM, waitlisted for PGPM..I have 3+ exp in IT. Preferably wanna stay in IT as of now after pg.. Better one?

  • MDI-PGPM
  • IIFT-D
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Can you please let me know the minimum percentile needed for IIM A, B and C ? This is my profile. Class X - 10.0 CGPA Class XII - 95% CBSE This part is fairly standard. Now here is the atypical part. Bachelors in Computer Engineering From University of Illinois Urbana Champaign- GPA 3.65/4.0 Masters in Computer Engineering From University of Illinois Urbana Champaign - GPA 3.66/4.0 I have a thesis that has been cited. First Author of a paper accepted and published at an international conference held in the USA Also was a teaching assistant for 4 semesters in the USA. Work Experience wise, I have around one year in a tech startup in the USA, now acquired by a top company. I have joined my family business in September 2019 and would have finished working for a year here by the time the CAT application deadline comes about. My age will be 26 by the time of the application deadline. Thanks a lot in advance !

My younger sister is studying in 11th, and she is having a tough time getting her head around Physics for JEE Advanced. She is solving from HC Verma and DC Pandey, but she still is not getting her concepts right and is very demotivated and frustrated. I can't see her like this, she's shattered completely and hates Physics now. I think her concepts are pretty weak and she is struggling with Electromagnetic Induction. I'm a commerce graduate and can't help her with all this. Can you all please suggest how should she go about all this now. Please, she is very very demotivated, IITB is her dream.

IIM A has started sending out mails to people who converted their wailtlist

Hi. It took some time. But i finally completed my AIWTSAC

Its a bit too long but its a 3 year journey. Hope u like it. 

https://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/all-i-wanted-to-speak-about-cat-2019-edition-aiwtsac-2019-75948146535137/78058437010618

 

Hello folks, here's my aiwtsac. Hope you like the effort. 


Do comment your thoughts.


https://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/all-i-wanted-to-speak-about-cat-2019-edition-aiwtsac-2019-75948146535137/78058486975688


Which one to choose? Considering I am inclined towards Finance.

Factors that are important:
B school experience and Placements

I will have 1 year work experience in a CA firm, by the time I join the b school.
Profile 85.5/87.8/76.3 Engineer

PS: Wl at Kozhikode, which has a chance of converting. But still want to know which one should be my backup

  • IIM Udaipur
  • IIT Bombay (SJSOM)

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RC Practice - 1st June 2020 

It is frequently assumed that the mechanization of work has a revolutionary effect on the lives of the people who operate the new machines and on the society into which the machines have been introduced. For example, it has been suggested that the employment of women in industry took them out of the household, their traditional sphere, and fundamentally altered their position in society. In the nineteenth century, when women began to enter factories, Jules Simon, a French politician, warned that by doing so, women would give up their femininity. Friedrich Engels, however, predicted that women would be liberated from the “social, legal, and economic subordination” of the family by technological developments that made possible the recruitment of “the whole female sex into public industry.” Observers thus differed concerning the social desirability of mechanization’s effects, but they agreed that it would transform women’s lives.

Historians, particularly those investigating the history of women, now seriously question this assumption of transforming power. They conclude that such dramatic technological innovations as the spinning jenny, the sewing machine, the typewriter, and the vacuum cleaner have not resulted in equally dramatic social changes in women’s economic position or in the prevailing evaluation of women’s work. The employment of young women in textile mills during the Industrial Revolution was largely an extension of an older pattern of employment of young, single women as domestics. It was not the change in office technology, but rather the separation of secretarial work, previously seen as an apprenticeship for beginning managers, from administrative work that in the 1880’s created a new class of “dead-end” jobs, thenceforth considered “women’s work.” The increase in the numbers of married women employed outside the home in the twentieth century had less to do with the mechanization of housework and an increase in leisure time for these women than it did with their own economic necessity and with high marriage rates that shrank the available pool of single women workers, previously, in many cases, the only women employers would hire.

Women’s work has changed considerably in the past 200 years, moving from the household to the office or the factory, and later becoming mostly white-collar instead of blue-collar work. Fundamentally, however, the conditions under which women work have changed little since before the Industrial Revolution: the segregation of occupations by gender, lower pay for women as a group, jobs that require relatively low levels of skill and offer women little opportunity for advancement all persist, while women’s household labor remains demanding. Recent historical investigation has led to a major revision of the notion that technology is always inherently revolutionary in its effects on society. Mechanization may even have slowed any change in the traditional position of women both in the labor market and in the home.

1. Which of the following statements best summarizes the main idea of the passage?

(A) The effects of the mechanization of women’s work have not borne out the frequently held assumption that new technology is inherently revolutionary.

(B) Recent studies have shown that mechanization revolutionizes a society’s traditional values and the customary roles of its members.

(C) Mechanization has caused the nature of women’s work to change since the Industrial Revolution.

(D) The mechanization of work creates whole new classes of jobs that did not previously exist.

2. It can be inferred from the passage that, before the Industrial Revolution, the majority of women’s work was done in which of the following settings?

(A) Textile mills

(B) Private households

(C) Offices

(D) Factories

3. It can be inferred from the passage that the author would consider which of the following to be an indication of a fundamental alteration in the conditions of women’s work?

(A) Statistics showing that the majority of women now occupy white-collar positions

(B) Interviews with married men indicating that they are now doing some household tasks

(C) Surveys of the labor market documenting the recent creation of a new class of jobs in electronics in which women workers outnumber men four to one

(D) Census results showing that working women’s wages and salaries are, on the average, as high as those of working men

4. The passage states that, before the twentieth century, which of the following was true of many employers?

(A) They did not employ women in factories.

(B) They tended to employ single rather than married women.

(C) They employed women in only those jobs that were related to women’s traditional household work.

(D) They resisted technological innovations that would radically change women’s roles in the family.

5. It can be inferred from the passage that the author most probably believes which of the following to be true concerning those historians who study the history of women?

(A) Their work provides insights important to those examining social phenomena affecting the lives of both sexes.

(B) Their work can only be used cautiously by scholars in other disciplines.

(C) Because they concentrate only on the role of women in the workplace, they draw more reliable conclusions than do other historians.

(D) While highly interesting, their work has not had an impact on most historians’ current assumptions concerning the revolutionary effect of technology in the workplace.

6. Which of the following best describes the function of the concluding sentence of the passage?

(A) It sums up the general points concerning the mechanization of work made in the passage as a whole.

(B) It draws a conclusion concerning the effects of the mechanization of work which goes beyond the evidence presented in the passage as a whole.

(C) It restates the point concerning technology made in the sentence immediately preceding it.

(D) It qualifies the author’s agreement with scholars who argue for a major revision in the assessment of the impact of mechanization on society.

Before SJMSOM's (IIT-B) announcement of going completely online for the entire first year, I had a clear idea of what to choose between NITIE and SJMSOM (Considering my primary inclination towards finance).

But with recent developments and considering better chances of NITIE to start offline classes by the start of next year(in worst case), what should be my decision?

Please don’t suggest to go for CAT 2020😑.

  • NITIE
  • SJMSOM
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Guys, I have converted MDI and waitlisted GN98 in IIT B.


Will I convert IIT B? If so should I consider IIT B over MDI. There are chances that the whole 1st year of IIT B might be taken online. MDI on the other hand has not confirmed as of now(As far as I know), but the speculations are that the 1st trimester of MDI Gurgaon will be online. It would be really helpful if you guys could give your input  in the comments. Thanks in advance. 


Note:

>I am kinda inclined towards Sales and Marketing. I would not mind an operations job profile too. Not too keen to persue Finance as of now.

>Location and campus are also key to me.  

  • IIT B MBA (if converted)
  • Will not convert IIT B, Go for MDI G
  • Will convert IIT B but go for MDI G

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Does anyone have IIM Lucknow's Second list (first WL movement) dashboard SS from last year?


Thanks!

(Dedo warna anxiety maar degi)

Does Everyone in SP Jain get a chance to visit some Foreign University. If no, why is this *international Immersion* fee mentioned in their Fee structure?

  

The story so far and beyond:

On PG I am one of the many silent viewers, putting out my first post today.

Let me start with my profile:

General Engineer Male (most important part of the profile)

10/12/grad: 85/74/77

Graduated in 2018

B.TECH Civil Engineer

2 year workex in an IT company

CAT 18(1st attempt): 89 %tile (Convert: KJ SOM)

CAT 19(2nd attempt): 99.95 %tile

Coverts: XLRI HR, FMS, MDI, IIM L, SJMSOM, IIFT-D, ALL New and Baby IIMs

My Decision: Going for CAT 20

But Why?

With this profile, the best college I can get is IIM C which I didn't convert this year. But that is not the reason I am going for CAT 2020. For me, an MBA has always been more than just targeting a specific college or just the placements. I think we should look at a college other than ROI, Placements, and Rankings too. It is more about living the MBA life to the fullest whether it is participating in corporate events, working your ass off every day, and more importantly enjoying the campus life. Staying on the campus for 2 years on a beautiful campus has been the main motivating factor for me and that’s why IIM K for me was above XLRI (I know it sounds absurd). Sadly this year most of the colleges will be going online for a minimum of 1 trimester due to the prevailing situation and it is necessary too and one of my best converts, SJMSOM will go online for a full 1 year that too with the uncertainty of staying on campus for the 2nd year as well. Many of my friends had done their MBA from IIM ABCL, XL, and FMS and each one of them has always told me that “1st year of MBA is the most important part of this process and your 70% of the learning, and experience will be gained here only. Any MBA college in India will have the same curriculum and knowledge will be available to you in every form, which will be up to you about how much you want to learn. It is the rigor, pressure, late-night assignments, peer group learning that shape you for the future.” And do I want to miss a single bit of that? No way. No way I am going to compromise my dreams and goals. So what if I have to delay it a bit, I am fine with it.  Another 5 months to go for CAT 20, CAT 19 journey was fun for me, and CAT 20 will be even more fun as now I am very familiar with the entire process (ghar jaisa lag rha hai). will stay motivated throughout this journey and go for one more time and kill it again. I have become professional now at GD-PI-WAT lol. 

Pagalguy is a wonderful place and special thanks to the PG Veterans (Arsene, IIM Groot) who have always given the correct advice and kept us motivated.

Thank you

Arjun (Edit: Not my real name and Arjun because of the Mahabharata Character that inspires me a lot)

Have you/your parents done age fabrication in your birth certificate?

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Can anyone please tell me about the waitlist movement for general category for SJMSOM last year? bear in mind i'm not asking about total  waitlist movement but for GENERAL category.  

 

Hi! Long post alert. This post is just another AIWTSAC19. I’m posting it here because I don’t think it deserves a place in the halls of the holy AIWTSAC19 group. Also there’s a slight change. It’s from a fellow female engineer. 

I can already imagine some of the eyes rolling right now thinking “Eh that’s a girl, it’s easy breezy for her.” Well you’re free to skip this post but I’m gonna pour my heart out because I’ve spent a long time worrying what others think of me and I’m not gonna do that anymore. 

I’ve always felt there was a lack of female users on PG. I myself don’t post much because I’m shy. That’s the reason for creating a new account. Please spare me because I’m not RR masquerading as a girl. Also some details have been skipped to not reveal my identity. Here it goes -

Back during my 12th days I was not really interested in any field. Unlike others I didn’t feel the passion to crack JEE and get into a top engineering college. So I just studied for boards and got into a not-so-good(read pathetic) local engineering college in a field that I didn’t hate. Yeah that is how the majority choose their engg specialization in India. And my college life sucked. It was just a small group of friends that got me through. I didn’t even feel like participating in events and fests so I mostly passed my time watching shows, movies and making sure I maintain a good GPA. 

It was in the beginning of 2018 that all my friends started thinking about MS and enrolled themselves in GRE classes. The peer pressure of thinking about my future studies was real, so I went to attend some career counselling seminars and got introduced to CAT. I was sure I didn’t want to go abroad so the choice was between GATE and CAT. I realized the odds of getting into an IIT for MTech were too low and not something I looked forward to, on the other hand there were many great MBA colleges in India. That’s how the immature me decided on CAT and I enrolled in one of the classes in my city.

It was a 2 year batch and I didn’t take things seriously. I never even dreamt of an IIM, heck I didn’t even think of cracking CAT. My goal was to get into NMIMS/SIBM because I wasn’t good enough for others. So the first year went by chilling, solving some basics and I took my first mock in April. Surprisingly I was among the top 10 scorers at my classes (the score was itself not good but being in the top 10 surely feels good). People came to me and asked for tips and I didn’t even have anything. But I thoroughly enjoyed that feeling :P

Tbh I never won anything at all so the inferiority complex was real. And for the first time in my life I felt I was good at something. I started to take things seriously, researched more about MBA, about the exam, strategies and all that goes on. Still I didn’t dare to dream of an IIM, the goal had moved up a step to colleges like IITB and IIFT. I worked my ass off like never before. Studied 6-7 hours a day, was reading 3-4 articles everyday and a novel per week. Still the college work was piling up and it was a bit difficult to manage. Scores improved gradually and I was in the 140-150 marks range by the end. And the people who knew me just couldn’t believe I was scoring this much. If I had a mark for everytime someone said “Do people from your college even go for CAT?”, I would be a 99.98%tiler haha.

Nevertheless it was never about proving someone else wrong. Through the months I realized CAT was my only chance at redemption. To shake off the mediocrity once and for all. I was still not happy with my scores but continued to slog. I started being ambitious a bit, searched about the percentile required for MDI and read somewhere it was comparable to IIM I and K. I figured the marks I was scoring were enough for them. This was the first time the thought of an IIM crossed my mind. 

I won’t mention the D day because it was fairly normal. I didn’t panic but I knew I hadn’t given my all. Got a ~99 percentile in slot 2. My parents and friends were super happy with that, but I knew this was not the best I could score. The calls started coming in and since I had good acads plus gender diversity I got quite a few calls including the most unexpected one, IIM C.

Now please don’t come at me saying I don’t deserve a C call because I know I don’t. I can’t even imagine the disappointment of GEMs who didn’t get a call at 99.66. But yeah I had already lost the battle. Constantly thinking I had no shot at C because low percentile plus the fact that I didn’t deserve it. I started with the GDPI preparation half-heartedly. 

My first mock interview went horrible. I was told I didn’t have enough experiences to share and with this prep I had no chance of converting anything. And they were correct. I hadn’t prepared much and this was what I needed to kickstart myself. Again I began to study religiously. Gave interviews, some bad, some good, some I don’t even wanna talk about. After that began the anxiety. What if I don’t convert a single call this year? That too after being a female (that’s what was being told to me, “Ladki ho na, sirf MDI k interview me jaake bethna hai. Ho jayega.”). Honestly that stung me a lot because I have worked just as hard. Yeah I get diversity points at most colleges but that is not my fault, something is wrong with the system. Those comments on PG filled with vitriol made me feel absolutely pathetic. I ignored everything and decided to just wait for the results.

I’ve got all the results now and I converted K, I and MDI. Yes I’m happy that I could show the interviewer there was something in me but I’m not satisfied. The whole 2 years journey has made me realize that I’ve potential and there’s still some fire left in me. My goal has now upgraded to IIM C and I’m going for CAT20. Funny how a simple exam can make you dream of things you never thought you were capable of. 

Finally thank you to all the puys and pirls. We may never have interacted but I enjoyed the memes, the motivational posts, poems and the few talks I had with some people.

A special mention to @Arsene96 . You have been my one and only inspiration. I remember your comment on someone else’s post, “There hasn’t been a female 100%tiler since Chavvi Gupta.” I have it saved in my notes. Maybe next year I’ll get a percentile required by a GEM to get a C call. :)

Congratulations to the people joining a B school this year and this one is for others - 

“Ambition is like poison in your veins till it drives out everything that stops you from going the last mile. On we go again.”