Thank you for fielding questions. I have a query regarding ISB. Specifically, is it worth attending ISB Mohali in it's first year of functioning? If not, what do I do if I get ISB Mohali, do you see any way of changing it to Hyderabad?
From my knowledge, you do get to rotate between the two campuses in the 3rd and 4th core terms. Other than that, core modules are to be the same at both campuses.
As Mohali campus would offer specialization in certain concentrations (healthcare and manufacturing) which would not be offered at Hyderbad campus, and Mohali would not offer the IT and Operations major, there is bound to be some movement again during the Elective phase.
If you want to change the location altogether, the best people to tell you this will be ISB admission's team themselves.
Other than that, ISB has promised to keep the Mohali campus at the same level of quality as the Hyd. location, so in my opinion, it is definately worth it to attend the Mohali campus
Can you highlight a little more on this point and probably if look for 2014 as my entry time, what schools can I hope for with my profile.
Bharat,
Your profile will be substantially different in 2-3 years. Plus your expectations from an MBA will also evolve over these years.
It would be tough to pinpoint at this stage what school would fit your future profile and ambitions as there are too many variable parameters right now.
So I had suggested that you focus on giving it your best at work. In parallel, keep learning about schools, careers and the application process.
I'd like to get your opinion on the success rate of Indian applicants this year at top US Schools (lets say 5 - 20). I've heard from a few people and picked up hints from gmatclub that the competition among Indian applicants is especially high this year. I've also heard that schools like Duke may be cutting down on their intake of Indians.
Have any of you picked up any such trends or experienced this with any of the applicants you have worked with.
Assuming the following things...which one do u think i should chose - Dartmouth Tuck or ISB?
1. I am equally inclined towards us and india..maybe slightly more towards us as i would prefer a us based job..n then startup in india in a few years time...
2. i will be able to afford isb fees... tuck with a stretch after taking loan..
I am interested in applying for MSc. in Management/M.S. in Engineering Management in US or Europe but only in top 10-15 repute schools like LSE, Cornell, Northwest etc.
Despicable,
You seem interested in acquiring a masters degree in management. So, why MS and not MBA from a top school. Please explain, so it helps me to answer your question. Thanks!
Assuming the following things...which one do u think i should chose - Dartmouth Tuck or ISB?
1. I am equally inclined towards us and india..maybe slightly more towards us as i would prefer a us based job..n then startup in india in a few years time...
2. i will be able to afford isb fees... tuck with a stretch after taking loan..
3. post mba goal is consulting
Have you got admission to any of these schools or are just trying to figure out?
In my opinion, both are great programs. For many people US/ India would be the deciding factor, but it does not seem like a major factor in your case.
I would think that Tuck is a great program for general management and has a number of courses for strategy& consulting. They have a highly cohesive community, so if you like to live like one big family, then it will be a perfect place. Additionally you will find more diversity (for nationalities) at Tuck.
ISB's advantages are the one year program, having a great name in India and they place maximum of their students in the consulting industry or consulting function. If you are already in India, you can plan a visit to the campus and get a feel for it. That can help you decide.
Eventually, the network from any B-school will matter more than the money you spend to be there, so think of the longer term benefit of being an alum of a particular b-school.
yes i already have an admit from isb and i am trying to figure out whether i should apply to tuck.. in the long term i wnt to setup a business in india (contacts from isb bettter) but would also need capital (more in tuck)..
Hi Puys,I completed my Btech (computer science) in 2011 june and went for cat, expecting 80-90 %.now I have an offer in one MNC company.what should I do now?either one year job in SOFTWARE and then mba or next year mba(rejecting job offer) ,unable to decide and plz tell me difference between 1 year MBA and 2 years mba after 2 years job experience. My track record 10th-90%(state board) 12th-83.1%(state board) Btech-65.36%(in an average college) Mat score :86.23%(composite score:65 I want to join in 6+ l package offered college(finance or any good one).Please suggest me friends.
I'm an IIM(Indian IT Male) NIT237802 yrz work ex in India & South Korea
But I'm in software development. Since my colg days, I have an option 2 join Oracle as a Consultant but remuneration is lower than what I'm currently getting. Moreover, career growth is almost non-existent.
GIJoe,
The quality and scope of work you do at every subsequent company should show a clear upward revision. It's tough to assume that Oracle doesn't have career growth options, specially for their consulting position. But if you are convinced that there's neither professional or financial upside to making the switch, then why are you considering it? If it's just for the brand name, I'd say that's not a good idea.
Can I rejig my career so as to get into HBS/Wharton/Stanford GSB/INSEAD/IMD/LBS??? Will pegging a Software Development Manager/Program Manager position help? Or r Harvard & Wharton unimpressed by non-IITian Indians?
None of these schools look for 'perfect profiles' that folks can strive for. Everything that you've done so far would matter (acads, work-ex, extra currics, any other accomplishments), not just the last 1-2 years.
& yeah, 1 more thing, jab ladka ladki ek samaan hain, toh ladkiyon ko preference kyun? Unfair hai!
Waise toh nationalities, industries aur roles bhi ek samaan hain, sirji. But in the interest of diversity and having multiple perspectives in the class, Adcoms give preference to anyone who can bring in that variety. So given all aspects being equal among 2 candidates, the one who brings in a better diversity factor will have an advantage.
Having said that, please don't do anything drastic to stand out. But if you can launch a million dollar business and sell it off to bigger player, Harvard won't mind.
Wish to apply in R-2 with following profile: ------------------------ GMAT-> 660: 48Q / 32V AWA: 5/6 WE (by Aug-Sept'12): 7yrs Area of WE: Research, Consulting & Advisory (non-IT) / Considerable international experience Nationality: Indian Education: Undergrad (Civil Engineering) from Top Engineering School in India, Double Masters and Masters in Management from US ------------------------ Looking for 1 yr MBA programs only (non-internship)
- Post MBA goal is moving to General Management role and Career enhancement ------------------------ Targetting B-schools such as ISB, LBS, JBS, IMD & SAID
Would also like to apply to Kellogg (MS in Mgmnt), INSEAD & IIM-A (PGPX) but not sure about my candidature, possibly will retake GMAT if i don't get through above...
Hi Puys,I completed my Btech (computer science) in 2011 june and went for cat, expecting 80-90 %.now I have an offer in one MNC company.what should I do now?either one year job in SOFTWARE and then mba or next year mba(rejecting job offer) ,unable to decide and plz tell me difference between 1 year MBA and 2 years mba after 2 years job experience. My track record 10th-90%(state board) 12th-83.1%(state board) Btech-65.36%(in an average college) Mat score :86.23%(composite score:65 I want to join in 6+ l package offered college(finance or any good one).Please suggest me friends. pls reply me friends
If the experience has been on a full-time basis, you were getting a salary and you were causing as much pain to your bosses and clients as anybody else in a comparable role, then I'd say there's no reason why it shouldn't be considered on par with others with similar work-ex.
If you bring out the accomplishments in your application and demonstrate that you've done more than your peers, you'd get credit for it.
With utmost respect to Sameer , I diagree. colleges clearly mention that your experience has to be post degree , at least a bachelors is considered a degree.
With utmost respect to Sameer , I diagree. colleges clearly mention that your experience has to be post degree , at least a bachelors is considered a degree.
I would agree with Sameer on this one. While schools "technically" define work-ex as post any-degree, the assumption is that the pre-degree work is usually part-time or one that doesn't involve long-term dedication, growth and responsibilities and manager-harassment and all the other good stuff 😃 However, if the person has worked full-time for 5years no less and has shown career-progression and work-place achievements, then it is a proper full-time job worth bragging about.
There are any number of reasons one can give for completing a diploma - the most common one being - "I wanted to study Engg but my family couldn't afford a full 4yr degree hence a diploma and now see i've worked hard and long for 5yrs and achieved so much" spin that a whole lot better than what i've done and you have an amazing story on hand.
Would Steve Jobs have put down 0yrs of work-ex because he never earned a degree? Of course not! the QUALITY of his work is all that matters. Dipss does have a graduation degree and if he's earned it while working full-time, that's more than atleast 70% of us have done.
I would agree with Sameer on this one. While schools "technically" define work-ex as post any-degree, the assumption is that the pre-degree work is usually part-time or one that doesn't involve long-term dedication, growth and responsibilities and manager-harassment and all the other good stuff 😃 However, if the person has worked full-time for 5years no less and has shown career-progression and work-place achievements, then it is a proper full-time job worth bragging about.
There are any number of reasons one can give for completing a diploma - the most common one being - "I wanted to study Engg but my family couldn't afford a full 4yr degree hence a diploma and now see i've worked hard and long for 5yrs and achieved so much" spin that a whole lot better than what i've done and you have an amazing story on hand.
Would Steve Jobs have put down 0yrs of work-ex because he never earned a degree? Of course not! the QUALITY of his work is all that matters. Dipss does have a graduation degree and if he's earned it while working full-time, that's more than atleast 70% of us have done.
Hi, Neo , its not about siding with someone, I have the utmost respect for Sameer and he is a big hearted person who tells the truth and a master consultant. I am not taking any side with or against anyone, but we will be fooling ourselves to think that this post diploma work will carry same weightage as post degree one. In US , evrybody works during school or prior to degree , yes sometimes full time for some months or even years bcoz their parents dont pay their fees, but those experiences , though considered are not same as post degree work exp. I hope I cleared my point , but anyway work exp is just a small part , even LBS admitted some fresh enginers from India.
but we will be fooling ourselves to think that this post diploma work will carry same weightage as post degree one. In US , evrybody works during school or prior to degree.
You are getting hung up on the technicality of post-degree-work-ex. I'm talking about the quality with the assumption being that Dipss has worked at the same job full-time and shown career-progression. Let us be honest here and admit that unless you have a top-notch degree, 7/10 jobs are IT-related and your degree has no relevance to your job.
Consider a simple scenario - A typical IT professional today, 4yr Engg degree ->IT job ->First 2years - Software Engg -> Next 3yrs - Senior Software Engg + career Progression.
WillyWonka-> Diploma ->2yrs IT Work -> 3yr graduation degree + continued work-ex in same company -> Career Progression.
When WillyWonka applies, is he going to say " Oh, i only graduated 3yrs ago and was directly at senior software engg level? I hope not! He has to show that he's been there for 5years (b-schools love Stability) and consequently recos from bosses are relevant because they've known him for 5years.
You are doing an exceptional job of guiding MBA aspirants. I am engineering graduate having 2.5 years of experience in an Indian IT services company. I will be taking my exams in February 2012. I have following queries, please help me:
1. What are my chances of R3 applications to US B-Schools to apply for Fall 2012? 2. Or, do you suggest me to wait till September 2012 to start applying for 2013 Fall ? 3. Is there any link/web portal with which I can profile colleges, their programs(yrs etc), fee structure and alumnus?
Here is my academic Background: 10th : 91% 12th : 85% Engineering graduate in Computer Science with an aggregate of 60%
Hi, Neo , its not about siding with someone, I have the utmost respect for Sameer and he is a big hearted person who tells the truth and a master consultant.
Prakash-bhai,
I just got my medical report and the doc has confirmed that the size of my heart is normal. What a relief!
I'm glad you've openly shared your views, when most would just take such statements for granted.
When it comes to bschool admissions (or any decisions for that matter), what really matters is the process of independent research and challenging conventional notions. Go in with a strategy that you strongly believe in and you won't be disappointed.
yes i already have an admit from isb and i am trying to figure out whether i should apply to tuck.. in the long term i wnt to setup a business in india (contacts from isb bettter) but would also need capital (more in tuck)..
If you've got India + entrepreneurship plans, I'd go with ISB.
Not sure how you'd get more capital from Tuck. Are you referring to angel funding, business plan competitions etc?
If so, I'd still go with ISB. Because, you'll invest 22 Lakh in the program instead of $160,000. That gives you a (notional) savings of 60 lakhs. And we aren't even considering the opportunity cost.
That's free capital for you, without having to go through cut-throat biz plan competitions. You can invest that money immediately in your business and not have a huge education loan on your head for 10 more years.
