Need some Opinions on CFA

I am a PGDM-IB passout of this year...it was hard to convince companies to consider IB students for IB profiles...that is to allow us to sit for GD and for interviews etc...but some companies like JPMG (12L package) didnt consider us (even the guy who had cleared CFA L2 exam..and that means a lot)...

so you will have to check with respective colleges and their respective curriculum...
IB is primarily a supply chain oriented subject.



i do happen to know that guy :)

But yes...certain companies dont attach as much importance to CFA as others...
Hope ur(genext) demand will be listend soon

nd regarding International CFA....in June 2010 it wont held in kol...as far as I know...

Rather I think CAs are gaining more market repo than that of MBA(Fin) nd certainly evry field has got their own importance, it jst depends how well we r entering into tat field


Yes i agree even one of my relative who is at an influential position in one of the MNC IB said... IBs consider only IIM ABC post graduates and CA rankers...!
Hope ur(genext) demand will be listend soon

nd regarding International CFA....in June 2010 it wont held in kol...as far as I know...

Rather I think CAs are gaining more market repo than that of MBA(Fin) nd certainly evry field has got their own importance, it jst depends how well we r entering into tat field

As correctly stated, AIMR/ CFA from US is held only in Mumbai, Delhi and Bangalore and it has 3 stages. so guys who dont stay in those cities need to travel everytime to write exams.
Moreover since the CFA istitute course is long distance and is NOT AICTE certified, most banks do not approve to give loans (I personally have experienced it)
The only institute offering CFA in India is ICFAI. Though it has been in various legal battles, in my opinion, while in a few years MBA will become a minimum qualification to get any job, looking at the trend of various xyz "bschools" springing up at every corner of the country, CFA recognition by corporates would probably instigate SC to favor the case towards ICFAI.

And yes Mr Snow White, "should, could, need to" are only so called big philosophycal talks which only remain as talks for at least the coming few years. And please reply why u think my doin an MBA from UK and CFA from ICFAI is ridiculous (as you had mentioned in ur mail)
Thanks
Hope ur(genext) demand will be listend soon

nd regarding International CFA....in June 2010 it wont held in kol...as far as I know...

Rather I think CAs are gaining more market repo than that of MBA(Fin) nd certainly evry field has got their own importance, it jst depends how well we r entering into tat field

As correctly stated, AIMR/ CFA from US is held only in Mumbai, Delhi and Bangalore and it has 3 stages. so guys who dont stay in those cities need to travel everytime to write exams.
Moreover since the CFA istitute course is long distance and is NOT AICTE certified, most banks do not approve to give loans (I personally have experienced it)
The only institute offering CFA in India is ICFAI. Though it has been in various legal battles, in my opinion, while in a few years MBA will become a minimum qualification to get any job, looking at the trend of various xyz "bschools" springing up at every corner of the country, CFA recognition by corporates would probably instigate SC to favor the case towards ICFAI.

And yes Mr Snow White, "should, could, need to" are only so called big philosophycal talks which only remain as talks for at least the coming few years. And please reply why u think my doin an MBA from UK and CFA from ICFAI is ridiculous (as you had mentioned in ur mail)
Thanks



Previously CFA used to be held only in Mumbai, but from this season they are being conducted in 5 cities, Kolkata and Chennai being the other 2.
So please verify your facts before posting.
As far as your assumption about MBA goes, yes we do have abundance of MBAs and the trend will continue.
But that does not mean ICFAI will be favored.
Its credibility has been questioned more often than not, and it can never be a spike to an MBA grad.
I would suggest you to check with the Corporate as to how do they react to this program by ICFAI.
And Court ruling in favor of ICFAI due to abundance of B schools was a big joke. Laws are different.
After doing so much research I can conclude that both CFAI AIMR and CFA ICFAI are not worth the salt and would not help much on a standalone basis, but yes when comparing the two, CFA AIMR is way ahead.
As correctly stated, AIMR/ CFA from US is held only in Mumbai, Delhi and Bangalore and it has 3 stages. so guys who dont stay in those cities need to travel everytime to write exams.
Moreover since the CFA istitute course is long distance and is NOT AICTE certified, most banks do not approve to give loans (I personally have experienced it)
The only institute offering CFA in India is ICFAI. Though it has been in various legal battles, in my opinion, while in a few years MBA will become a minimum qualification to get any job, looking at the trend of various xyz "bschools" springing up at every corner of the country, CFA recognition by corporates would probably instigate SC to favor the case towards ICFAI.

And yes Mr Snow White, "should, could, need to" are only so called big philosophycal talks which only remain as talks for at least the coming few years. And please reply why u think my doin an MBA from UK and CFA from ICFAI is ridiculous (as you had mentioned in ur mail)
Thanks


I think the point that CFA is not AICTE certified so banks do not approve it to give loans is just a minor hiccup. It is so much in demand by the corporates. If recognition of any CFA is the requisite to decide the case, I dont think ICFAI CFA has any chances to win the case (dunno if the case is still going on).

One thing u take it from me... A cfa level 3 cleared person will get atleast 4 to 6 lac package in India....

Previously CFA used to be held only in Mumbai, but from this season they are being conducted in 5 cities, Kolkata and Chennai being the other 2.
So please verify your facts before posting.
As far as your assumption about MBA goes, yes we do have abundance of MBAs and the trend will continue.
But that does not mean ICFAI will be favored.
Its credibility has been questioned more often than not, and it can never be a spike to an MBA grad.
I would suggest you to check with the Corporate as to how do they react to this program by ICFAI.
And Court ruling in favor of ICFAI due to abundance of B schools was a big joke. Laws are different.
After doing so much research I can conclude that both CFAI AIMR and CFA ICFAI are not worth the salt and would not help much on a standalone basis, but yes when comparing the two, CFA AIMR is way ahead.


Kindly let me know the link where u have found that there is an addition of 2 centers....

go to the link given below:
https://www.cfainstitute.org/cfaprogram/resources/takingexams/Documents/december_test_centers.pdf

I think I have provided u enough verification because of which I have qoute Mr.Snow White
Kindly let me know the link where u have found that there is an addition of 2 centers....

go to the link given below:
https://www.cfainstitute.org/cfaprogram/resources/takingexams/Documents/december_test_centers.pdf

I think I have provided u enough verification because of which I have qoute Mr.Snow White



The list speaks of test centers in December 2010.
In your previous post you had said about June 2010.
June 2010 has Kolkata and Chennai as well.
I myself have my due on June 6 in Kolkata
However that is a different thing that I might have to skip it because I would mostly be in Mumbai that time
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ABCLIKS Says
One thing u take it from me... A cfa level 3 cleared person will get atleast 4 to 6 lac package in India....

you mean only with CFA and no mba ?

I am a commerce graduate who passed out in 2008. I am interested in doing MBA Finance. right now i am working in a govt.deptt However, when heard about CFA, i feel it is worth going. Can any body elaborate more on CFA. How much worth does it carry if done from India and which are the best institutes. Also is it equal to a correspondence course where study can be done at home or do we have to join some institute. Plz elaborate and help
. Also i am interested in joining banks in future and have been selected for IDBI assistant manager's interview so is CFA worth and will it help in future career prospects.
thanks in advance

https://www.cfainstitute.org/cfaprogram/resources/takingexams/Documents/june_test_centers.pdf

All the people unsure about the centers please follow the above link. From June 2010 onwards International CFA is scheduled to be conducted in five Indian cities... Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi, Kolkata & Mumbai. I hope after going through the above link all conflicts are over about the addition of center.

@Sanhita_c
courses like International Int. CFA, CIMA, US CPA, ACCA, are above any approval by any Indian body like UGC or AICTE, They are well established organizations for very long period of time, they do not require any approval by AICTE or UGC(besides there is mass corruption in providing AICTE and UGC approvals, go through the detailed reports published in leading Indian dailies past few months ago)

For availing education loan go to Allahabad Bank, Bank Of India, Union Bank Of India, United Bank of India, These banks provide loan for foreign courses like CIMA, the US CPA, International CFA is not in their list, but let them know of the prospect, i hope they might support International CFA.

And as for the "ridiculous" comment i do not wish to discuss that in open. I shall better mail you.

P.s. please do not compare ICFAI CFA and International CFA. It is not worth it.

Why are we overlapping the domain Of the Courses here???

CA, MBA Fin., Int. CFA, cannot be compared in parallel.

CA is more of Accounting, Auditing, The Financial Regulations,

with the revamped & rigorous CA structure do you think it is easy for any tech-science grad to pursue CA???

Int. CFA is rather investment-financial modelling, analytical, Risk management Techniques, hybrid financing, quantitative techniques to drive the financial services industry.

Int. CFA is easier for Tech-Science grads due to its proxymity to Analytics.

ICWA/CIMA is management accounting....production-manufacturing financing, transfer pricing, efficient cost management financing,

MBA Finance is not any specialized. but mixture of all these, the perfect one for corporates in general role.

The big Four Prefer CA/CS etc., for the job roles.
the investment Banks prefer Int. CFA for high end financial roles.,
ICWA/CIMA is preferred by manufacturing firms mainly the automobile manufacturers, Engineering and construction companies.
MBA Finance is preferred by corporates.

Besides MBA from a reputed school is a tough bet., competition is escalating, institutions criterion are very rigid and contracting day by day.
A working professional dreaming over oceans can start pursuing CFA/ICWA/CIMA without compromising, and can better his position academically. That ain't possible with MBA fin.

nishantvdo Says
sorry if i sound naive...but can CFA be practically done alongwith an MBA??...i am interested in finance...




Refer to the previous pages of this thread ...

But , it boils down if u can handle the pressure of a B-School studies ... & CFA ....

CFA is no easy thing ... requires hours of studies ..

& if u seeing CFA .. & if a non- commerce .. then u must give the JUNE ATTEMPT 2011 ... but if u r confident enough .. hit it this year december ..

ATB !!
Why are we overlapping the domain Of the Courses here???

CA, MBA Fin., Int. CFA, cannot be compared in parallel.

CA is more of Accounting, Auditing, The Financial Regulations,

with the revamped & rigorous CA structure do you think it is easy for any tech-science grad to pursue CA???

Int. CFA is rather investment-financial modelling, analytical, Risk management Techniques, hybrid financing, quantitative techniques to drive the financial services industry.

Int. CFA is easier for Tech-Science grads due to its proxymity to Analytics.

ICWA/CIMA is management accounting....production-manufacturing financing, transfer pricing, efficient cost management financing,

MBA Finance is not any specialized. but mixture of all these, the perfect one for corporates in general role.

The big Four Prefer CA/CS etc., for the job roles.
the investment Banks prefer Int. CFA for high end financial roles.,
ICWA/CIMA is preferred by manufacturing firms mainly the automobile manufacturers, Engineering and construction companies.
MBA Finance is preferred by corporates.

Besides MBA from a reputed school is a tough bet., competition is escalating, institutions criterion are very rigid and contracting day by day.
A working professional dreaming over oceans can start pursuing CFA/ICWA/CIMA without compromising, and can better his position academically. That ain't possible with MBA fin.

by going through the previous posts I have formed an idea that CFA is mainly for those who are gunning Investment banks which is only possible if one combines with IIM ABC , again I banks needs stellar acads , so can CFA help any simple graduate with not so stellar acds interested in finance ?
zener diode Says
by going through the previous posts I have formed an idea that CFA is mainly for those who are gunning Investment banks which is only possible if one combines with IIM ABC , again I banks needs stellar acads , so can CFA help any simple graduate with not so stellar acds interested in finance ?


Dude becoming a CFA in itself is a very big achievement. know of a lot of guys from my elder bro's college (IIM-I, batch of 2007) who werent able to clear CFA L-1 then.
if you're able to clear CFA you will already be holding a good amount of knowledge..equivalent to MBA fin of IIM-ABC...
dont think that CFA is very easy to clear...

and yeah after clearing CFA in itself..you might not get into I-banks immediately..but sooner or later it would happen (depending on u)..
Dude becoming a CFA in itself is a very big achievement. know of a lot of guys from my elder bro's college (IIM-I, batch of 2007) who werent able to clear CFA L-1 then.
if you're able to clear CFA you will already be holding a good amount of knowledge..equivalent to MBA fin of IIM-ABC...
dont think that CFA is very easy to clear...

and yeah after clearing CFA in itself..you might not get into I-banks immediately..but sooner or later it would happen (depending on u)..

Very true.

zener diode Says
by going through the previous posts I have formed an idea that CFA is mainly for those who are gunning Investment banks which is only possible if one combines with IIM ABC , again I banks needs stellar acads , so can CFA help any simple graduate with not so stellar acds interested in finance ?


Not correct, Do CFA L-1, L-2, L-3 and then apply to places. Sooner or later you will get the position you want. Also look at stuff like FRM.

What helps? A degree in Financial Engineering Helps, VBA Finance Engineering helps.

About stellar and non-stellar, iim-a-b-c or not. It all depends on the fact that are you looking at all of this in terms of education or not?
CFA and FRM give you more knowledge then a MBA in Finance does in terms of pure finance intelligence. Welcome to the Open Market. If you have knowledge and you know how to advertise it then buyers will be there for you. Don't worry about that, gain skills and knowledge. that should be your primary motive.

Be practical and know how to show what knowledge you have. Just having knowledge won't help anymore.

By the way, Do you just want to work for a company or do you think someday you will have enough knowledge to bet your own money on the education and knowledge that you have garnered over time?

The best or private equity investors have to invest a lot of their personal money to get into private equity. If you are really good in Financial Investment, and increasingly so in the new era, you will not work for a big corporation but will work for a small firm or your own private equity firm. Why? Financial Remuneration (salary-benefits) is about 25:1 for the best investment analysts in favour of private equity vs the big banks.

nishantvdo Says
sorry if i sound naive...but can CFA be practically done alongwith an MBA??...i am interested in finance...


It can practically be done if you want to do it and ofcourse it will require more dedication. The trouble is most of the CFA based stuff willbe taught to you in the 2nd year so you can only take the test in December (during your placements) at best or July after your placements are done.


CFA charter is not an option for anyone looking into very serious investment finance, its a necessary thing. The same holds true for FRM is you are a risk evaluator or risk investment professional. I say this hoping the fact that its not just the job you want but the knowledge and long-term growth prospects in mind.

Also, please oh Please don't do CFA/FRM stuff from anywhere else but from the CFA International Institute and GARP International Institute. No other degree will have any long term value.

Its not without reason that The Economist along with many other people and financial critics call the International CFA as the Gold Standard in Investing Education.

The other easier/cheaper way out of a CFP is the CFP but remember that CFP is multi-centric and not just Investment centric. CFP is also easier than CFA.

Also, To be honest, From what I have checked from the US finance Industry, It seems that CFA holds way more respect than an MBA in the investment field because the reasons for doing both are very different, although that is something which people don't realise.

I am planning on doing an MBA and CFA together. My dad is a CFA and he said most of the course content is the same. However CFA is more in depth and questions are more challenging. Moreover most ppl quit after the first year not because it is impossible to achieve but the determination to study for the second year as the second year questions are not MCP but are to be answered in detail.

For people, who are lazy to visit the CFA website and find this themselves:
Positions that benefit from a CFA charter:
21.7% Porfolio Manager
14.5% Research Analyst
7.0% Chief Executives
5.4% Consultant
4.6% RM Sales+Marketing
4.2% Risk Manager
4.1% Financial Advisor
4.1% Corporate Financial Analyst
3.8% Investment Banking Analyst

For people, who are lazy to visit the CFA website and find this themselves:
Positions that benefit from a CFA charter:
21.7% Porfolio Manager
14.5% Research Analyst
7.0% Chief Executives
5.4% Consultant
4.6% RM Sales+Marketing
4.2% Risk Manager
4.1% Financial Advisor
4.1% Corporate Financial Analyst
3.8% Investment Banking Analyst


Eligibilty: Either hold a bachelors or equivalent
or have 4 years of qualified work experience (check with CFA institute)
or a combo of total 4 years
zener diode Says
you mean only with CFA and no mba ?


Yes only cfa aimr and not mba.
But plz take hundred opinions while taking sensitive career decisions.