@[589306:KapTeacherEli], @[388912:EducationAisle] thanks for the explanation...
Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig.
a.) will snap easily, as though it was a twig.
b.) will snap easily, like a twig does
c.) will snap easily, as though it is a twig.
a.) might snap easily, as though it was a twig.
a.) will snap easily, as though it were a twig.
A Recent and popular self -help book wryly notes that if adolescence was not so painful, it would have a droll comedic aspect, at least in retrospect.
a.) was not so painful, it
b.) was not so painful, they
c.) were not so painful, they
d.) were not so painful, it
e.) was not so painful, being one
I am not sure how i can underline the sentence in the question. if some knows let me know please.
@[198102:vaibhavwadhera] My take : will snap easily, as though it were a twig.'
Is it correct?
The thing here to look for is that 'as though', 'as if', 'if' kind of words always take WERE. These words are called Hypothetical Subjunctive.
Nothing official about these words, just to keep in mind that they introduce a hypothetical situation which is not true in reality but suppose it becomes true then.....
Like for example, If I were Roger Federer....
I collapsed as if I were a building.
Hope this helps.
Cheers !
@[198102:vaibhavwadhera] Ctrl+U is universal shortcut for Underlining.
for this Qn follow the same strategy, look for IF so it will take WERE, option (c) and (d) remains, rest all gone.
We are talking about adolescence here which is Singular so the word will take an IT. Option (c) struck off . Option (d) is the correct answer.
Is it correct?
@[198102:vaibhavwadhera]
@vaibhavwadhera said: Rust can deteriorate a steel pipe to such an extent that it will snap easily, as though it was a twig. a.) will snap easily, as though it was a twig. b.) will snap easily, like a twig doesc.) will snap easily, as though it is a twig. a.) might snap easily, as though it was a twig. a.) will snap easily, as though it were a twig.
@vaibhavwadhera said: A Recent and popular self -help book wryly notes that if adolescence was not so painful, it would have a droll comedic aspect, at least in retrospect. a.) was not so painful, itb.) was not so painful, they c.) were not so painful, they d.) were not so painful, it e.) was not so painful, being one I am not sure how i can underline the sentence in the question. if some knows let me know please.
my ans E and D.
OA please.
@[469615:KunalDubey]
please post more questions...
@prasadkhadpe said: @vaibhavwadhera my ans E and D. OA please.
@Psychamour said: @vaibhavwadhera Ctrl+U is universal shortcut for Underlining.for this Qn follow the same strategy, look for IF so it will take WERE, option (c) and (d) remains, rest all gone.We are talking about adolescence here which is Singular so the word will take an IT. Option (c) struck off . Option (d) is the correct answer. Is it correct?
@Psychamour said: @vaibhavwadhera My take : will snap easily, as though it were a twig.'Is it correct? The thing here to look for is that 'as though', 'as if', 'if' kind of words always take WERE. These words are called Hypothetical Subjunctive.Nothing official about these words, just to keep in mind that they introduce a hypothetical situation which is not true in reality but suppose it becomes true then.....Like for example, If I were Roger Federer.... I collapsed as if I were a building. Hope this helps.Cheers !
OA are E and D. I just read some where that for the Wishful thinking we use were.
Thanks both of you for your inputs
The subjunctive case ('were') is used to express a degree of uncertainty or unreality.
A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses to discourage poachers; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and
1. see rhinoceroses after their horns are trimmed.
(A) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are
(B) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one once their horns are
(C) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once the animals' horns have been
(D) if tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses once the animals' horns are
(E) if tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one after the animals' horns have been
I have a doubt in this question, when to use "are"(present) and when to use "have been" (present perfect) in conditional statement
Doing really bad at sentence correction. I know that GMAT follows certain rules in sentence correction, and whatever we may have learnt or know till now. And though i have figured out quite a few set of rules, I am making almost 100% mistakes in questions related to something called idioms. I hardly get them right. So looking for advice from the puys, if they have figured this one out, and if yes then how. What should i do to get this thing fixed.
Regards,
Pushpayan
Displays of aurora borealis, or "northern lights" can heat up the atmosphere over the arctic enough to affect the trajectories of ballistic missles,induce electric currents that can cause blackouts in some areas and corrosion in north-south pipelines.
a) same as above underlined
b) that the trajectories of ballistic missiles are affected, induce
c) that it affects the trajectories of ballistic missiles, induces
d) that the trajectories of ballistic missiles are affected and induces
e) to affect the trajectories of ballistic missiles and induce
My answer was "A". OG says "E" becuse it says the affect and induce verbs should be joined with "and". My point is the whole sentence gives three effects of the aurora. so the first two should be separated by a comma, with "and" joining the third effect to the first two. Presence of two "and" in the sentence gives it a wierd form. But off course OG has to be right. So what am i missing here puys??????
@[436816:Pushpayan]
The concept being tested here is that of Parallelism
Though it appears that the sentence is talking about 3 effects of Northern Lights, but in essence it is stating only 2 effects
1) affect the trajectories
2) induce electric currents
Now,it is the induced electric current that
causes
blackout in some areas
and
corrosion in north-south piplelines.
So, you see, the second and is for the second effect and should not be related to the main sentence.
The two levels of the setence will become easier to understand if you view the sentence like in the image attached.
Hope this helps.
@[568667:Psychamour] thank you....you have provided a pretty clear explanation
Another one, that fooled me. Please let know your thoughts on that as well.
Most state constitutions now mandate that the state budget be balanced each year.
a) same as above
b) mandate the state budget to be balanced
c) mandate that the state budget will be balanced
d) have a mandate for a balanced state budget
e) have a mandate to balance the state budget
My response was B, but OG says A. OG says for option B to be does not work in this context. As far as i am concerned, i thought, "that..state budget...be" is making the statement more comlicated than "the state budget to be". your thoughts ???
@[436816:Pushpayan]
Okay, the concept being tested here is that of Command Subjunctives.
In simpler term this concept involves the use of BOSSY words such as 'mandate' in this sentence.
Whenever bossy words are used they simply follow the skeleton :
......
Like for example :
The jury DEMANDED that the accused BE present in the court.
My boss REQUIRES that you BE at work by 6 a.m.
The minister DICTATED that the policy BE implemented ASAP.
But there is a big trap here. Not all such bossy words take the BE form.
Words such as Advise, Persuade do not take THAT....BE form.
Like for example :
The accused persuaded the jury that the bail be granted to him --- Incorrect
The accused persuaded the jury to grant the bail.... ---- Correct
I would advise that you dig in more such examples of Command Subjunctives from various sources to get the hang of them.
@[436816:Pushpayan]
@prasadkhadpe said:A proposal has been made to trim the horns from rhinoceroses to discourage poachers; the question is whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and
1. see rhinoceroses after their horns are trimmed.
(A) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses after their horns are
(B) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one once their horns are
(C) whether tourists will continue to visit game parks to see rhinoceroses once the animals' horns have been
(D) if tourists will continue to visit game parks and see rhinoceroses once the animals' horns are
(E) if tourists will continue to visit game parks to see one after the animals' horns have been
I have a doubt in this question, when to use "are"(present) and when to use "have been" (present perfect) in conditional statement
Pls help me too with this...
@[388912:EducationAisle]
Oo0ops ! I myslef fell in the so called Trap....L0L !!
Will correct it now.
But no doubt, your eye for detail is commendable.
Thanks for pointing out buddy.
@[524706:prasadkhadpe]
Actually the question is not testing your skill of using are/have been.
It is testing two concepts :
Use of If vs Whether
and
Use of pronouns
I would solve this Qn like this
1) First of all recall that IF is used when there is a CONDITION involved and WHETHER is used when there is a PREFERENCE involved.
Here we are talking about the preference of tourists of visiting Game Parks so 'Whether' will win. This will leave out (D) and (E).
2) Secondly chk choice (B), we are talking about rhionS and not a single rhino so here the part of sentence "... to see one once their horns are..." kills this choice.
3) Now we are left with (A) and (C). Option (A) states "............and see rhinoceroses after their horns are..." the THEIR in this part can refer to the main subject of the sentence - the tourists.
It seems that (A) is saying - if tourists' horns are chopped off will they go to visit game parks. This is obviously hilarious.
This ambiguity arises because of the pronoun THEIR and this ambiguity is resolved in option (C) by adding the word "ANIMALS' HORNS", thus leaving no chance for the reader to get over-creative and think that tourists are getting their horns trimmed.
Hope this helps.
Take away from this Qn
'Concise choice is correct most of the times but not always ! '
This
@[568667:Psychamour]. thanks for the reply. Now on a side note, would you please also explain the humour that you and the other person shared. Completely went over my head. I want to know more from whatever you guys were talking about from the perspective of subjunctives related to the word advise 
@[388912:EducationAisle]
I second you Edu. I have come across many sources that include 'advise' in the list of bossy verbs.
But at the same time, I came across equal number of sources where I found 'advise' and other such passive verbs excluded from the list of bossy verbs, something which I found very logical. Although, in usual day-to-day english we do use 'advise' as a subjunctive, like I used, without even knowing that I did. ;)
What I learned was that bossy words such as demanded, mandated, required etc. follow the skeleton ...that....be....., whereas words such as recommend, insist, advise, suggest etc which are two notches lower than above bossy ones take SHOULD. This is something which I found very logical. Because when one uses such passive verbs the choice still rests with the listener whether to follow the advise, suggestion or recommendation. So 'should' makes sense here.
On the contrary words such as demanded, required.. leave no choice with the listener. Listener has to follow what is being told so no question of using 'should' here.
I cant recall at this moment where I saw this clear classification of subjunctive verbs, but it has to be one of MGMAT SC or Aristotle SC Grail, because these two were the only books I referred during my prep. Other than these I will try to find any official SC Qn in OG.
I even read somewhere that this difference has to do with American and British english, soemthing which I again found convincing, because there are many other instances where a sentence construction is correct as per British English but faulty as per American. One such sentence is 'Crowd are yelling' is correct for Britons but Americans and hence GMATters would say it as 'Crowd is yelling'.
But like you said, GMAT never gives any Qn over which disputes can arise. This is one of the reasons, I love this exam. Everything is crystal clear, unlike our home brewed CAT.
Let me know what is your take on this.
An instructor's perspective is always worthy.