GMAT Sentence Correction Discussions

In the song sung on Independence day,Ram's was voice was of higher pitch

1)Ram's was voice was of higher pitch
2)Ram's was voice was high-pitched
3)Ram's was voice was pitched high
4)Ram's was voice was characterised by high pitch


pl. elaborate ur choices....i have the OA but there is no mention of the usages of other options.Pl. help


What is the source of this question ??
Which one is correct? Please explain with grammatical rules/reasons

she had gotten up in the morning and was brushing her teeth when the phone rang.

OR
she got up in the morning and was brushing her teeth when the phone rang.


In my opinion first sentence is grammatically appropriate as both the mentioned actions have occurred in past but former action has occurred before latter so it is appropriate to speak first action using past perfect "had gotten" and latter action with simple past tense.

In the second sentence, simple past tense has been used to speak about both actions in spite of the fact that first action has occurred prior to second which is an incorrect usage.

Hope it helps
Comparison of : used to compare like things
Compared to : used to compare unlike things---here this is applicable
Compared with : used to compare like things
Comparison between : used to compare only two like things

so OA--D

ps: I am sure for "compared to" and "compared with" , but not of the other two.... someone pl. correct me , if im wrong


Where do you get all this bekaar gyaan from

Guys - there is NO difference among the comparison + preposition forms mentioned above. Atleast GMAT will not test you only on this difference.

Arun
In the song sung on Independence day,Ram's was voice was of higher pitch
1)Ram's was voice was of higher pitch
2)Ram's was voice was high-pitched
3)Ram's was voice was pitched high
4)Ram's was voice was characterised by high pitch
pl. elaborate ur choices....i have the OA but there is no mention of the usages of other options.Pl. help


If this question is asked on the GMAT I will shoot myself. Point blank. In the head. :banghead:

Please don't waste your time on such questions - you will really regret it because there is little time and you need to focus on channelizing all your energy on getting a great GMAT score. Solving such question is NOT!

On that note let me start sending some sample questions from tomorrow.

Arun
If this question is asked on the GMAT I will shoot myself. Point blank. In the head. :banghead:

Please don't waste your time on such questions - you will really regret it because there is little time and you need to focus on channelizing all your energy on getting a great GMAT score. Solving such question is NOT!

On that note let me start sending some sample questions from tomorrow.

Arun

Dude , this is a XAT 2010 question
And yes , I would love to recieve an expert's gyaan ...

Regarding the usage of Compared to and compared with , refer to the below link
Compared "to" or Compared "with"?
refer to -Strunk and White (The Elements of Style)

I don't think so that is totally wrong as pointed by you (will be asked in GMAT or not is a separate matter)
EducationAisle Says
It is not my intention to pass on a value judgment on any specific material that you are working with. But (say in case of Sentence correction) when GMAT tests students almost to the point of finickiness, coming across incorrect constructions (such as the one posted) produces a lot of confusion. To discren what is correct, becomes quite challenging in such case.


In that case ... I m sorry bcoz i meant nothing personal....
I haven't given GMAT and don't know the pattern and the difficulty level as such.. But I assumed XAT,CAT and mocks of reputed institues won't give wrong grmmatical sentences.... However,I would need some more advice from the experts , thanks for your comments ....

Keep correcting me if I m wrong , but believe me I am not adding a single word of my own....
atrish22 Says
What is the source of this question ??


source : XAT 2010
Which one is correct? Please explain with grammatical rules/reasons

she had gotten up in the morning and was brushing her teeth when the phone rang.
OR
she got up in the morning and was brushing her teeth when the phone rang.


Tell us what you want to know and we can pick on your thought process and help you with the right answers. Such Kanetkar-type problems (those who have learned C++ will know) will not help anyone.

Generally, when you have two verbs in a sentence, one simple past and one past perfect, the timeline from earliest to latest event is (1) past perfect, (2) simple past, (3) now.

There are 3 actions here: (a) got up in the morning (b) brushing her teeth (b) phone rang. The simplest way to put it is (a) & (b) in past perfect (since they are both related events and time-lines between them doesn't matter) and THEN (c) in simple past. So:

she had gotten up in the morning and had been brushing her teeth when the phone rang.

is better.

Pheew!!

Arun
Dude , this is a XAT 2010 question
And yes , I would love to recieve an expert's gyaan ...


XAT 2010 is not GMAT


Regarding the usage of Compared to and compared with , refer to the below link
Compared to or Compared with?
refer to -Strunk and White (The Elements of Style)

I don't think so that is totally wrong as pointed by you (will be asked in GMAT or not is a seperate matter)


Good observation - let me rephrase - it won't be asked on the GMAT. If you have any official question that makes this distinction let us know.

Cheers

Arun
XAT 2010 is not GMAT



Good observation - let me rephrase - it won't be asked on the GMAT. If you have any official question that makes this distinction let us know.

Cheers

Arun


Hey dude as you said , why to waste time on all this... we all need good scores , that's why we are here .... Next time I would post from GMAT material , so that no one will have any objection....

I am waiting for quality questions with grammatical answers from all members like you to prepare well for GMAT ---- I'm a rookie
hungrymind26 Says
source : XAT 2010

Dude, sorry to say but you have not posted the right question that appeared on XAT 2010. Look at again the question u have posted !!

Hi guys,

Federal incentives now encourage investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and no demand for new construction.

(A) investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and
(B) capital investment in commercial office buildings, even though vacancy rates in existing structures are exceptionally high and there is
(C) capital to be invested in commercial office buildings even though there are exceptionally high vacancy rates in existing structures with
(D) investing capital in commercial office buildings even though the vacancy rates are exceptionally high in existing structures with
(E) capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is

The OA is B though I feel that even D is correct :(..Please help!!

Hi guys,

Federal incentives now encourage investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and no demand for new construction.

(A) investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and
(B) capital investment in commercial office buildings, even though vacancy rates in existing structures are exceptionally high and there is
(C) capital to be invested in commercial office buildings even though there are exceptionally high vacancy rates in existing structures with
(D) investing capital in commercial office buildings even though the vacancy rates are exceptionally high in existing structures with
(E) capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is

The OA is B though I feel that even D is correct :(..Please help!!


Hey Pooja,

Its 3/2 split between, "there is" and "with".
Option-D is lacking parallelism and correct meaning out of it.
"Existing structure WITH no demand" is not making sense.
Hi guys,

Federal incentives now encourage investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and no demand for new construction.

(A) investing capital in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high and
(B) capital investment in commercial office buildings, even though vacancy rates in existing structures are exceptionally high and there is
(C) capital to be invested in commercial office buildings even though there are exceptionally high vacancy rates in existing structures with
(D) investing capital in commercial office buildings even though the vacancy rates are exceptionally high in existing structures with
(E) capital investment in commercial office buildings despite vacancy rates in existing structures that are exceptionally high, and although there is

The OA is B though I feel that even D is correct :(..Please help!!


encourage "capital investment " is the term that fits here.
Out of B and E , E is vebose and grammatically incorrect.
Q) When he phones her, she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.

  1. she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.

  2. she told him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.

  3. she tells him to stop calling, but he acts as if he did not understood her.

  4. she tells him to stop calling, but he acts as if he has not understood her.

  5. she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he does not understood her.

Atrish,

Are you saying that "was brushing her teeth" is simple past??
I believe, it is past continuous.

Sumit

In my opinion first sentence is grammatically appropriate as both the mentioned actions have occurred in past but former action has occurred before latter so it is appropriate to speak first action using past perfect "had gotten" and latter action with simple past tense.

In the second sentence, simple past tense has been used to speak about both actions in spite of the fact that first action has occurred prior to second which is an incorrect usage.

Hope it helps
Q) When he phones her, she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.

  1. she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.

  • she told him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.



  • she tells him to stop calling, but he acts as if he did not understood her.



  • she tells him to stop calling, but he acts as if he has not understood her.



  • she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he does not understood her.



should be 4....
Q) When he phones her, she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.


  1. she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.

  2. she told him to stop calling, but he acted as if he had not understood her.

  3. she tells him to stop calling, but he acts as if he did not understood her.

  4. she tells him to stop calling, but he acts as if he has not understood her.

  5. she tells him to stop calling, but he acted as if he does not understood her.




I'd go for 4..

Whats the OA ?
1. If anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated, or even suspected, the impending sale of the Koniko kelp processing plant, they would have advised owners of Koniko stock to unload all shares immediately.
(A) If anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated
(B) Had anyone at InterCom Financial Advisers anticipated
(C) If any people at InterCom Financial Advisers would have anticipated
(D) If any people at InterCom Financial Advisers had anticipated
(E) If anybody at InterCom Financial Advisers anticipated
1. In 1922, when Truman was almost forty years old, he was living in his mother-in-laws house, watching the haberdashery store he opened three years earlier go bankrupt, and he faced a future with no visible prospects.
(A) opened three years earlier go bankrupt, and he faced
(B) opened three years earlier go bankrupt and faced
(C) had opened three years earlier go bankrupt, and he was facing
(D) had opened three years earlier go bankrupt, and facing
(E) was opening three years earlier going bankrupt, and facing