GMAT Sentence Correction Discussions

aplha123 Says
I guess " To make " is appropriate answer. Reason: parallelism to learn // to make.


I will go with "in making".

You need to be very careful with wrong parallelisms. Manhattan SC clearly says at the end of the chapter on Parallelism that not all the verbs in a sentence have te be parallel. Only things that are logically parallel should be structurally parallel.

the correct idiomatic usage is "(un)interested in something". In this case the something would be "making new friends".

Comments welcome...
aplha123 Says
But the OA answer is E.

Hi alpha123,

Can you tell us the source?

With "A majority of X" the verb takes the number of X. So it will be "A majority of populations reads newspaper X", but "A majority of people read newspaper X".

I also use a trick sometimes, whenever I am in a fix and I am not able to make up my mind, I convert the sentence into either Hindi or Marathi (my mother tongue). It usually works (except for genders).

Also, depending on the source, OA's can be wrong...
Hey Guys,

I have been racking up my brain to understand this..kindly help out.

Written in Austria in 1762, the composer of Symphony No. 5 was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, who many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his contribution to classical music while court musician for the Esterhazy family.

A) the composer of Symphony No. 5 was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, who many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his
B) Franz Joseph Haydn's Symphony No. 5, who many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his
C) Symphony No. 5 was composed by a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, who many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his
D) Symphony No. 5's composer was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, whom many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his
E) Symphony No. 5 was composed by a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, whom many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his

Kammy


IMO: C

A. It cannot be the composer who was written
B. people wouldn't call "Franz Joseph Haydn's Symphony No. 5" as the father of symphony
C. Correct
D. Again, it cannot be the composer who was written
E. wrong usage of "whom". Whom is used in the object form whereas here the use is in subject form.

What is the OA?
Puys,

I have a very basic question..
Which is the correct usage??
Realize we use it day in/day out..but not sure which is correct.

Looking forward to hearing from you guys
Looking forward to hear from you guys


I refer you to an excellent link:

Learn English online - English Grammar - ing forms (gerunds) after prepositions

even i thought of the same logic and derived at C as the answer, but it is in fact E.
Though i dont know how E could be the answer....
Any HELP guys here...

IMO: C

A. It cannot be the composer who was written
B. people wouldn't call "Franz Joseph Haydn's Symphony No. 5" as the father of symphony
C. Correct
D. Again, it cannot be the composer who was written
E. wrong usage of "whom". Whom is used in the object form whereas here the use is in subject form.

What is the OA?


According to me also the answer should be C, but the actual answer, according to the owner of the question, is in fact E.
How...i have no clue.
Any ideas guys....
even i thought of the same logic and derived at C as the answer, but it is in fact E.
Though i dont know how E could be the answer....
Any HELP guys here...


Kammy,

My bad...
In the clause "whom many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his", the actual subject is "many" since "many" are doing the action of calling.

Here, Franz Joseph Haydn (whom) is the object and thus shud be in the object form.
Hey Guys,

I have been racking up my brain to understand this..kindly help out.

Written in Austria in 1762, the composer of Symphony No. 5 was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, who many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his contribution to classical music while court musician for the Esterhazy family.

A) the composer of Symphony No. 5 was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, who many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his
B) Franz Joseph Haydn's Symphony No. 5, who many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his
C) Symphony No. 5 was composed by a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, who many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his
D) Symphony No. 5's composer was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, whom many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his
E) Symphony No. 5 was composed by a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn, whom many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his

Kammy

my take: (d)

but can soem1 explain the difference b/w the usage in (d) and (e)...i.e.

(d)Symphony No. 5's composer was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn

(e)Symphony No. 5 was composed by a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn

my answer went wrong jst because of the above statements
my take: (d)

but can soem1 explain the difference b/w the usage in (d) and (e)...i.e.

(d)Symphony No. 5's composer was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn

(e)Symphony No. 5 was composed by a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn

my answer went wrong jst because of the above statements


The modifier "Written in Austria in 1762," can only modify "Symphony No.5". It cannot rightly modify "Symphony No.5's composer".

Does that help?
Kammy,

My bad...
In the clause "whom many later called the "Father of the Symphony" for his", the actual subject is "many" since "many" are doing the action of calling.

Here, Franz Joseph Haydn (whom) is the object and thus shud be in the object form.


okk...a bit tuf to identify @first :)
Thnkx a lot and all the very best for ur GMAT
my take: (d)

but can soem1 explain the difference b/w the usage in (d) and (e)...i.e.

(d)Symphony No. 5's composer was a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn

(e)Symphony No. 5 was composed by a brilliant musician, Franz Joseph Haydn

my answer went wrong jst because of the above statements



I wud go with option E bcos of the passive voice stated from the first few words "written in " -this refers to the symphony which in turn would lead to the passive structure.This is clearly stated in option E.

I wud go with option E

One of the Headline on BBC Website today READS:

A Bengal tiger has become stuck at the top of a new 15ft (5m) activity tower at a North Somerset zoo after climbing it for the first time.

Makes me wonder if that is a right usage. Can you fellow PUYS pour your opinions in plz.

One of the Headline on BBC Website today READS:

A Bengal tiger has become stuck at the top of a new 15ft (5m) activity tower at a North Somerset zoo after climbing it for the first time.

Makes me wonder if that is a right usage. Can you fellow PUYS pour your opinions in plz.


Not sure if I am qualified to point out mistakes in BBC's English, but I feel a more appropriate usage will be:

A Bengal tiger has gotten stuck at the top of a new 15ft (5m) activity tower at a North Somerset zoo after climbing it for the first time.
Not sure if I am qualified to point out mistakes in BBC's English, but I feel a more appropriate usage will be:

A Bengal tiger has gotten stuck at the top of a new 15ft (5m) activity tower at a North Somerset zoo after climbing it for the first time.


1. I kind of agree with grtembey on usage of 'gotten'. But this is old English. So I would avoid using it (unless thats present in one of the answer options.)

2. To me it seems that usage of 'it' is a bit confusing. 'It' might refer to the zoo as well.

My take would be on:
At a North Somerset zoo, a Bengal tiger has got stuck at the top of a new 15ft (5m) activity tower after climbing it for the first time.

What say others....

Cheers.
Ankit.

Hi,

Plz help me with following sentences:

1) The animal has survived extinction;its numbers are now five times more than it was 5 years ago
its numbers are now five times greater than it was 5 years ago


2) The density is more than or density is greater than it was 5 years ago.

3)Greater in numbers/larger in numbers/more in numbers => when to use them


Thanks,
Surya

We use more for uncountable nouns like sugar or milk and greater for countable nouns.

Density will be greater than and animal extinction we can use more than.

Hi,

Three basic doubts in SC

1.Is there any rule when to use 'that'?
e.g from 1000SC
A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.
Here can we use 'advocated some blacks return'? Why is that needed?

2.If which is modifying a noun should it essentially be preceeded by a comma?
I have seen some OAs in which this is violated.

3.Should an adverb always be close to a verb/adjective it modifies? I know it should be so for adjective.But is there any such rule for adverb?
Please clarify.

Regards,
Asha
1. I kind of agree with grtembey on usage of 'gotten'. But this is old English. So I would avoid using it (unless thats present in one of the answer options.)

2. To me it seems that usage of 'it' is a bit confusing. 'It' might refer to the zoo as well.

My take would be on:
At a North Somerset zoo, a Bengal tiger has got stuck at the top of a new 15ft (5m) activity tower after climbing it for the first time.

What say others....

Cheers.
Ankit.


Ankit's sentence seems better , but is 'has got stuck' correct?
'got stuck' or 'is stuck' seems more correct depending on whether the tiger is still stuck or not.
Hi,
Three basic doubts in SC
1.Is there any rule when to use 'that'?
e.g from 1000SC
A controversial figure throughout most of his public life, the Black leader Marcus Garvey advocated that some Blacks return to Africa, the land that, to him, symbolized the possibility of freedom.
Here can we use 'advocated some blacks return'? Why is that needed?
2.If which is modifying a noun should it essentially be preceeded by a comma?
I have seen some OAs in which this is violated.
3.Should an adverb always be close to a verb/adjective it modifies? I know it should be so for adjective.But is there any such rule for adverb?
Please clarify.
Regards,
Asha


good questions.
1)'that' is required.A reporting verb such as 'advocate' requires 'that'.(other egs for reporting verbs are indicate,claim ...etc) In GMAT , your should always put 'that' between the reporting verb and the thought.(The thought here is "some blacks return to Africa...").

without 'that' the sentence causes little confusion.
Look at the construct "....advocated some blacks". At this stage,the author may be saying that he actually advocated some blacks.(not sure about the meaning here..But clearly this is not the intended meaning).

2).Normal case - "which" is a non-essential modifier. Hence requires a comma.

eg. This mansion,for which i yearn, is owned by the Lees(non-essential.Hence comma is required).

But, when "which" is used as an essential modifier, you may do away with the comma.(Here "that" can replace "which".But if you dont any answer choices with "that" then use "which" without comma).

The mansion for which i yearn is owned by the Lees(Essential use of 'which' - No commas).

But a better sentence would be -
This mansion that i yearn for is owned by the Lees.

Thus which without commas is not incorrect.
Can you please mention where else have you seen 'which' without comma?.Would love to see how.

3)Adverb need not touch the verb.
e.g. He ran the race quickly.

Was getting confident with Qs having 'like' and 'as' until I encountered this one.

More than 30 years ago Dr. Barbara, the Noble Prize winner, reported that genes can "jump", as pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another.

b. like pearls moving mysteriously from one necklace to another.
c. as pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to another.
d. like pearls do that move mysteriously from one necklace to another.
e. as do pearls that move mysteriously from one necklace to some other one.

Somebody please explain.

Cheers.
Ankit.