GMAT Critical Reasoning Discussions

A community college is experiencing high turnover rates among its computer science faculty
members.


A community college is experiencing high turnover rates among its computer science faculty
members. To rectify this problem, the computer science department head has proposed to the dean
that beginning next year, starting salaries for computer science instructors be increased by 10 percent
to provide a more competitive pay package.

1. Which of the following indicates a flaw in the department head's plan?

A. Computer science faculty members generally indicate satisfaction with the number and
type of classes they are given to teach.
B. The community college is in a relatively safe area of town with affordable housing.
C. Local technology companies provide good supplemental consulting work to many faculty
members.
D. Yearly pay increases for instructors in all departments are set at a level below the current
inflation rate.
E. There are several academic institutions nearby with similar pay structures to the department
head's proposal.
A community college is experiencing high turnover rates among its computer science faculty
members. To rectify this problem, the computer science department head has proposed to the dean
that beginning next year, starting salaries for computer science instructors be increased by 10 percent
to provide a more competitive pay package.

1. Which of the following indicates a flaw in the department head's plan?

A. Computer science faculty members generally indicate satisfaction with the number and
type of classes they are given to teach.
B. The community college is in a relatively safe area of town with affordable housing.
C. Local technology companies provide good supplemental consulting work to many faculty
members.
D. Yearly pay increases for instructors in all departments are set at a level below the current
inflation rate.
E. There are several academic institutions nearby with similar pay structures to the department
head's proposal.

2. Which of the following must be studied in order to evaluate the validity of the department
head's plan?

A. What effects do changes in technology have upon the way classes are assigned?
B. Is the majority of turnover in the computer science department initiated by the faculty or
the administration?
C. What factors are involved in recruiting the most talented computer science instructors?
D. What are the technological benefits to having advanced computer science classes taught
on campus?
E. How would better turnover rates improve the quality of education offered by the community
college?



My take :
1. A
2. E
A community college is experiencing high turnover rates among its computer science faculty
members.


A community college is experiencing high turnover rates among its computer science faculty
members. To rectify this problem, the computer science department head has proposed to the dean
that beginning next year, starting salaries for computer science instructors be increased by 10 percent
to provide a more competitive pay package.

1. Which of the following indicates a flaw in the department head's plan?

A. Computer science faculty members generally indicate satisfaction with the number and
type of classes they are given to teach.

This strongly points out the flaw in the department heads decision, if the pay package is not the reason why the faculties are leaving, then there is no use in increasing the pay package, other options are outside the premise.

2. Which of the following must be studied in order to evaluate the validity of the department
head's plan?

C. What factors are involved in recruiting the most talented computer science instructors?

The department should look into the factors that are involved in recruiting the most talented instructors, in this way, they can try and adapt to these factors,and the instructors wont leave the department ..

dude i think ur talkin abt the stocks of pepper and hence D is realistic

@phattuSingh: when you chose C for question 2 "how do you ensure that instructors don't leave by adopting the factors for recruiting talented faculty" u just recruit them, to gurantee their stay in the college there has to be something extra..?
Why can't this be B....they are going to increase salaries by 10 percent, they should be knowing that their plan turns out to be effective....if the attrition is bcoz of admin ppl then the increase in salary package will not be a good move...
Please post the correct answers....

@phattuSingh: when you chose C for question 2 "how do you ensure that instructors don't leave by adopting the factors for recruiting talented faculty" u just recruit them, to gurantee their stay in the college there has to be something extra..?
Why can't this be B....they are going to increase salaries by 10 percent, they should be knowing that their plan turns out to be effective....if the attrition is bcoz of admin ppl then the increase in salary package will not be a good move...
Please post the correct answers....


Hey Neeti, each word plays a very important role in the structure of a statement.. but let me come down to it later.

Lets look at the Problem: College Experiencing high Turnover
Reason: Not Known (the college has to find out)
Proposed solution: 10 % hike .. But will this hike be able to resolve the Problem .(We dont know..because we dont know the reason for the problem..it may not be salary hike, may be a lot of students abusing the teacher in that particular college after :drinking:)
So this is not the correct solution. First we need to find the correct Reason behind the problem..then only can be propose the right solution, that can be taken up by the college.

Hence my answer was C, to find out the reasons, and hence we could retain then by implementing those reasons.


This is my take on why B should be incorrect

1) You are making an assumption when u say ."they should be knowing that their plan turns out to be effective" .It is just a blind thought that they have, that increasing salary will solve the problem..there is no proof behind it..they dont even know the correct reason behind the problem.


2) The paragraph says "community college is experiencing high turnover rates among its computer science faculty
members
" so talking about administration is out of the premise..


Hope this helps..
A community college is experiencing high turnover rates among its computer science faculty
members. To rectify this problem, the computer science department head has proposed to the dean
that beginning next year, starting salaries for computer science instructors be increased by 10 percent
to provide a more competitive pay package.

1. Which of the following indicates a flaw in the department head's plan?

A. Computer science faculty members generally indicate satisfaction with the number and
type of classes they are given to teach.
B. The community college is in a relatively safe area of town with affordable housing.
C. Local technology companies provide good supplemental consulting work to many faculty
members.
D. Yearly pay increases for instructors in all departments are set at a level below the current
inflation rate.
E. There are several academic institutions nearby with similar pay structures to the department
head's proposal.

2. Which of the following must be studied in order to evaluate the validity of the department
head's plan?

A. What effects do changes in technology have upon the way classes are assigned?
B. Is the majority of turnover in the computer science department initiated by the faculty or
the administration?
C. What factors are involved in recruiting the most talented computer science instructors?
D. What are the technological benefits to having advanced computer science classes taught
on campus?
E. How would better turnover rates improve the quality of education offered by the community
college?


My take
A
B
People with serious financial problems are so worried about money that they cannot be happy. Their misery makes everyone close to themfamily, friends, and colleaguesunhappy as well. Only if their financial problems are solved can they and those around them be happy. Which one of the following statements can be properly inferred from the passage?

A. Only serious problems make people unhappy.
B. People who solve their serious financial problems will be happy.
C. People who do not have serious financial problems will be happy.
D. If people are unhappy, they have serious financial problems.
E. If people are happy, they do not have serious financial problems
??


OA is E
Solution :This problem is a classic example of how the GMAT attempts to disguise
conditional reasoning. The stimulus can be diagrammed as follows: Sentence
1: SF>~H. Sentence 3: H >~SF. The sufficient condition in the first
sentence is introduced by the phrase people with. The necessary condition
in the third sentence is introduced by the phrase, only if. Note that the third sentence provides the contrapositive of the first sentence. The second
sentence is not conditional and contains only general statements about the
effects of their misery. The question stem uses the word inferred and can
be classified as a Must Be True. When you encounter a stimulus that
contains conditional reasoning and a Must Be True question stem, immediately look for a contrapositive or a repeat form in the answer choices.
In problems with this same combination, avoid Mistaken Reversals and
Mistaken Negations as they are attractive but wrong answer traps. Answer
choice (A): One reason answer choice (A) is incorrect is because it only
refers to serious problems, not serious financial problems as in the stimulus.
Even if the answer correctly referred to serious financial problems, it would
still be incorrect because it would be a Mistaken Reversal of the first
sentence and a Mistaken Negation of the third sentence. Answer choice (B):
The answer choice can be diagrammed ~SF>H. This answer is incorrect
because it is the Mistaken Negation of the first sentence. However, it is also
the Mistaken Reversal of the third sentence, which you should recognize as
the contrapositive of the first statement. This leads to the interesting point
that the Mistaken Negation of a statement and the Mistaken Reversal of the
same statement are contrapositives of each other. This fact reveals how
important it is to diagram conditional statements correctly; otherwise, the
makers of the test can lure you with answer choices which contain
contrapositives of Mistaken Negations or Reversals. Answer choice (C): This
answer choice would be diagrammed the same way as answer choice (B),
and it is incorrect for the same reasons. Answer choice (D): The answer
choice can be diagrammed as ~H>SF. As such, it is the Mistaken Reversal
of the first sentence and also the Mistaken Negation of the third sentence.
Answer choice (E): This is the correct answer. Answer choice (E) is the
contrapositive of the first sentence and a repeat of the third sentence.

I would like to understand conditional Reasoning used in some more detail. If, Only if etc. i request some faculty or experts to give a brief about this.

@Sudden Chaos: Please post the correct answers for argument of Community college, increase in turnover.

neetibhargava Says
@Sudden Chaos: Please post the correct answers for argument of Community college, increase in turnover.


OA:

1. D. The department heads plan states that a more competitive pay package will solve the
turnover problem; therefore, the assumption is that the current pay package isnt adequate to
keep faculty members there. If D is true, the value of the pay package will decrease over time,
making it unlikely that the turnover problem wont return.

2. B. The department heads plan also assumes that the faculty members have at least some
choice in remaining at the school; otherwise, a competitive pay package wouldnt matter. So B
brings up an issue that must be considered in order for the validity of the plan to be evaluated.
By the way, did you notice the answer choices dealing with computers and technology? While
they may bring up some issues that are peripherally important to computer science instructors,
they are mostly distraction and not core to evaluating the plan.

i seriously doubt regarding source of OAs being posted. D rather strenghthens the arguement rather than finding out flaw in arguement.as for 2nd questions administration or relted work isnt mentioned in paaragraph at all its only presumption ehich may not be correct always!!


How does D strengthen the argument? Think about "Time value of money".

psethi got 2nd one correct! :cheerio:
How does D strengthen the argument? Think about "Time value of money".

psethi got 2nd one correct! :cheerio:

i got the first one also correct. i dont know what made me write A as an option.
@sudden in 1st Q option D its would be just presumption that increasing the salary is below inflation rate would hold true for next year also its not explicitly mentioned one can take this way also that till this year increment is below inflation rate so next year dean's plan may improve the situation there is always a space of abiguity where in option A no suchambiguity is present.
even for Q2 B option would have been correct if administration or any hint related to administration is explicitly mentioned in CR reasoning Qs you cant presume things thats fundamental principle even manhattan mentors teach and follow this golden rule!!


Dude, don't want to argue with you. Please try to understand the reasons provided instead of questioning the MGMAT question. :thumbsup:
Anyway, what you are saying is true and that's exactly the "critical reason" of that paragraph! Since inflation may increase or decrease, increasing the pay package is not the solution. Hence it is the answer! I have seen you challenging other OAs too, that's not the right attitude. Learn from your mistakes. All the best! :cheerio:
How does D strengthen the argument? Think about "Time value of money".

psethi got 2nd one correct! :cheerio:


Thanks suddenchaos..for the answers.:)..need a lot of practise..:drinking:

Hi,

Can we do a group chat sometimes say for an hour and have a discussion around critical reasoning and likewise things on weekends or alternate days?

Thanks

waiting for more ques :

Someone please help me with this question..





A researcher discovered that people who have low levels of immune system activity tend to score much lower on tests of mental health than do people with normal or high immune system activityThe researcher concluded from this experiment that the immune system protects against mental illness as well as against physical disease
The researcher's conclusion depends on which of the following assumptions?
(A) High immunesystem activity protects against mental illness better than normal immune, system activity does
(B) Mental illness is similar to physical disease in its effects on body systems.
(C) People with high immune-system activity cannot develop mental illness
(D) Mental illness does not cause people's immune-system activity to decrease.
(E) Psychological treatment of mental illness is not as effective as is medical treatment.

c is d rite ans....!!!wat say...

sure....sunday nitee....

My take on nitiman's question on immune system is ----

D.
In an assumtion question, we always take negative of all the statements and apply them one by one into the problem to check the consistency. If something does not agree, then we have got the correct assumption.
In the given question, if we assume that mental illness causes immune system activity to decrease, then people performing poorly on the mental health tests would be having low levels of immune system activity. It's like the cause is based on the effect.

Astronomer: Observations of the Shoemaker-Levi comet on its collision course with Jupiter showed that the comet broke into fragments before entering Jupiter's atmosphere in 1994, but they did not show how big those fragments were. In hopes of gaining some indication of the fragments' size, astronomers studied spectrographic analyses of Jupiter's outer atmosphere. These analyses revealed unprecedented traces of sulfur after the fragments' entry. The fragments themselves almost certainly contained no sulfur, but many astronomers believe that the cloud layer below Jupiter's outer atmosphere does contain sulfur.Since sulfur would have seeped into the outer atmosphere if comet fragments had penetrated this cloud layer, it is likely that some of the fragments were at least large enough to have passed through Jupiter's outer atmosphere without being burned up.

In the astronomer's argument, the two portions in boldface play which of the following roles?

A. The first presents a circumstance for which the astronomer offers an explanation; the second is part of that explanation.
B. The first acknowledges a consideration that weighs against the conclusion of the argument; the second is that conclusion.
C. The first acknowledges a consideration that weighs against the conclusion of the argument; the second provides evidence in support of that conclusion.
D. The first provides evidence in support of the conclusion of the argument; the second acknowledges a consideration that weighs against that conclusion.
E. The first is a judgment advanced in support of the conclusion of the argument; the second is that conclusion.

my take is E ...