@deedeedudu Common just cos he is an influential figure u cant hate him...tell me if u had an influential manager at the helm of Chelsea,wouldn't u want him to use that influence to the advantage of the club? As for accepting those decisions,hardly ever has any manager accepted them, so we can say he is no exception.
As for controversial decisions,we know how we lost the league in 2009-2010 to a free kick that should have never been and a header which was a foul on Wes Brown...so lets not say all of them go in favor of United...
@deedeedudu said:Same to same yaar even the most ardent ManU fan will acknowledge he's not a gr8 person.
They don't call it ManU, Its a disrespect to Club. And we Chelsea fans respect all the clubs :).
@abhibeloved said:i know there are lots of Chelsea fans who'll never like Rafa. But as a manager he is good and he has earned my respect . And now I really don't hate him though I don't like him either
I dont want anybody to change their opinion about Rafa, its upto them but just read this article for a different perspective http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2012/11/22/3546992/chelsea-fans-dont-deserve-misunderstood-genius-benitez @chelseaboy
@shakysanky said:@deedeedudu Common just cos he is an influential figure u cant hate him...tell me if u had an influential manager at the helm of Chelsea,wouldn't u want him to use that influence to the advantage of the club? As for accepting those decisions,hardly ever has any manager accepted them, so we can say he is no exception.As for controversial decisions,we know how we lost the league in 2009-2010 to a free kick that should have never been and a header which was a foul on Wes Brown...so lets not say all of them go in favor of United...
We are not saying you to hate him. Of course any manager will support his team. We hate him because we have faced his illogical statements and comments.
@shakysanky said:@deedeedudu Common just cos he is an influential figure u cant hate him...tell me if u had an influential manager at the helm of Chelsea,wouldn't u want him to use that influence to the advantage of the club? As for accepting those decisions,hardly ever has any manager accepted them, so we can say he is no exception.As for controversial decisions,we know how we lost the league in 2009-2010 to a free kick that should have never been and a header which was a foul on Wes Brown...so lets not say all of them go in favor of United...
That was just an exception and the outburst from him that followed just gives a gr8 joy, i already said its ok to use one's influence these things happen more than often but its my personal opinion. U can luv him i'm ok with it, i just dont like him :)
@deedeedudu said:That was just an exception and the outburst from him that followed just gives a gr8 joy, i already said its ok to use one's influence these things happen more than often but its my personal opinion. U can luv him i'm ok with it, i just dont like him
People feel Man Utd get favourable refereeing decisions, but in reality it is not! I do not believe offside goals that go for or against a team can be attributed to bad refereeing or influence. It is very hard to check for offside at one glance and sometimes players block referee's vision.
But, red cards and penalties, yes. As far as I can see, Man Utd got several decisions that went against than for them than for them. Taking the example of last season, Man Utd would have wrapped up the title atleast 2 weeks before the end had the decisions been right. Plz go thru this link. It takes into account the decisions that went in favour of untied also. So, it is not a biased article.
I agree that SAF's comments are over the top. He calls something for what it is. No mincing of words. He is emotional, expressive and reactive. Maybe, for a person at the top of the ladder, those attributes are bad but that is SAF... don't hate him for being what he is at all times.
With all due respect to SAF, his statements & opinions are logical only if you're MUFC fan,thats it! Sometimes he says things that you dont expect from a "SIR" and from someone who has been part of the game for so long!
I personally put wenger above him as a person!
@carrotilla said:People feel Man Utd get favourable refereeing decisions, but in reality it is not!
Just read the comments below the article u'll get my answer 😃 😉 😛 :D
@deedeedudu said:Yaar but u knw these playes who spend so much time on loan loose a sense of belonging to the club.Look what happened to Alex, Sturridge, even Kakuta Both Lukaku and Kevin De Bruyne dont want to return till the end of the season, Lukaku has even asked for 1 more year,Chelsea should call them for half a season so that they get a chance to impress fans also this gives a msg that the club has not forgotten abt them and they have a place in the club
I read somewhere thaT chelsea management want to keep Courtious at the bridge from the next season,but Barcelona are looking at the 6'5'' Belgian keeper as the replacement for Valdes, & he himself in more interested in joining Barca
@El__Nino said:I read somewhere thaT chelsea management want to keep Courtious at the bridge from the next season,but Barcelona are looking at the 6'5'' Belgian keeper as the replacement for Valdes, & he himself in more interested in joining Barca
No way yaar. Ofcourse Barca would want him coz he's performing so well for Athletico but i guess he has a deal for 5 years with Chelsea and they r not gonna sell him. He's a ready replacement for Cech , he has some attitude problems but he's a gr8 keeper and so young.
@carrotilla said:@deedeedudu Just read the article and give your honest opinion. No survey can be flawless!
It seems more of the author's personal opinion rather than an honest survey, there bound to be different opinions abt a matter, u and i choose to be on the opposite end of the spectrum :)
@deedeedudu
Decisions are like two sides of the same coin, if it pleases one side - it will piss off others. Also as @shakysanky has already pointed out decisions in the 2009-10 season went in favor of chelsea which ultimately led to theirs winning the league so that will refute yr statement that all decisions go in favor of man utd...
@abhibeloved
Understandable abt your quote referring to logic..... but over a period of 26 years a few quotes are bound to go haywire.... although I am not endorsing recent comments made by him
Decisions are like two sides of the same coin, if it pleases one side - it will piss off others. Also as @shakysanky has already pointed out decisions in the 2009-10 season went in favor of chelsea which ultimately led to theirs winning the league so that will refute yr statement that all decisions go in favor of man utd...
@abhibeloved
Understandable abt your quote referring to logic..... but over a period of 26 years a few quotes are bound to go haywire.... although I am not endorsing recent comments made by him
@DibyaDreams said:@deedeeduduDecisions are like two sides of the same coin, if it pleases one side - it will piss off others. Also as @shakysanky has already pointed out decisions in the 2009-10 season went in favor of chelsea which ultimately led to theirs winning the league so that will refute yr statement that all decisions go in favor of man utd...@abhibelovedUnderstandable abt your quote referring to logic..... but over a period of 26 years a few quotes are bound to go haywire.... although I am not endorsing recent comments made by him
U r referring to one season i can tell u for atleast last 6 seasons when ManU got the decisions in their favour, and when they didn't the loose the league. It just shows how much influence these decisions can hav especially in critical matches and what abt David Gill who's chief ex of MU and and and Vice Chairman of FA and can u deny the fact the person with such power wont have influence?
and what abt David Gill who's chief ex of MU and and and Vice Chairman of FA and can u deny the fact the person with such power wont have influence?
@deedeedudu
Dude I am referring to decisions that changed the course of the title, obviously chelsea were not the team 10 years ago they are now - so bringing instances from those times will not help the arguments...
I cant understand how u seem to bring David Gill into the issue..... u cant possibly be saying that David Gill is bribing the refs, yes fergie not getting any punishment may be a reason but nothing else....
p.s.... I may be ignorant but I cant seem to recall those 6 instances you are talking abt, will you be kind enough to bring forward those decisions for not one but 6 seasons that you are referring to
Dude I am referring to decisions that changed the course of the title, obviously chelsea were not the team 10 years ago they are now - so bringing instances from those times will not help the arguments...
I cant understand how u seem to bring David Gill into the issue..... u cant possibly be saying that David Gill is bribing the refs, yes fergie not getting any punishment may be a reason but nothing else....
p.s.... I may be ignorant but I cant seem to recall those 6 instances you are talking abt, will you be kind enough to bring forward those decisions for not one but 6 seasons that you are referring to
@DibyaDreams said:@deedeeduduDude I am referring to decisions that changed the course of the title, obviously chelsea were not the team 10 years ago they are now - so bringing instances from those times will not help the arguments...I cant understand how u seem to bring David Gill into the issue..... u cant possibly be saying that David Gill is bribing the refs, yes fergie not getting any punishment may be a reason but nothing else....p.s.... I may be ignorant but I cant seem to recall those 6 instances you are talking abt, will you be kind enough to bring forward those decisions for not one but 6 seasons that you are referring to
Dost that is the point they do not need to bribe the referees, David Gill is in a position that he exercise considerable influence over the refs not all but its possible that some r influenced
@DibyaDreams said:@deedeeduduDecisions are like two sides of the same coin, if it pleases one side - it will piss off others. Also as @shakysanky has already pointed out decisions in the 2009-10 season went in favor of chelsea which ultimately led to theirs winning the league so that will refute yr statement that all decisions go in favor of man utd...@abhibelovedUnderstandable abt your quote referring to logic..... but over a period of 26 years a few quotes are bound to go haywire.... although I am not endorsing recent comments made by him
Actually he is SIR and he is not suppose to make such comment. Though he is also a human being so its alright and for that we hate him that is also alright.
@DibyaDreams said:@deedeeduduDude I am referring to decisions that changed the course of the title, obviously chelsea were not the team 10 years ago they are now - so bringing instances from those times will not help the arguments...I cant understand how u seem to bring David Gill into the issue..... u cant possibly be saying that David Gill is bribing the refs, yes fergie not getting any punishment may be a reason but nothing else....p.s.... I may be ignorant but I cant seem to recall those 6 instances you are talking abt, will you be kind enough to bring forward those decisions for not one but 6 seasons that you are referring to
And when decision made against you then you said its wrong and if its in favor of you then its totally fine, Care to explain why?? Lets talk about recent times, 2 red card and an off side goal and last season, 2 penalties where we were about to win and I am talking about only against Chelsea. Actually thing is we might not said anything to MUFC or their fans but then knowing the fact that it was a wrong call, they tried to defend it. why??
Ok in 2009-10 it went in our favor but it was one incident and there are lot more incident when decision was in your favor.
See I am not against Man Utd or SAF or their fans, I against the fact that they never accept their fault.
@abhibeloved said:Actually he is SIR and he is not suppose to make such comment.
Chal rehne de yaar chod this has always been the case when Chelsea and Man Utd fans interact, lets enjoy the game and get over the debate :)
@abhibeloved said:I had no idea of this awesome thread, I was missing all the fun, I used to search for the fellow Chelsea friends on PG, finally found it :DActually he is SIR and he is not suppose to make such comment
@deedeedudu said:Chal rehne de yaar chod this has always been the case when Chelsea and Man Utd fans interact, lets enjoy the game and get over the debate
haha I was writing a reply to @carrotilla but then got a notification of yours :mg:. Ok lets settle down here because it is a never ending discussion :mg:.
@DibyaDreams @carrotilla no offence to you and your club. We all are here to support and defend our club and the fact that we love this beautiful game ;). So cheers 