Hey guys , AIR DECCAN IPO.
how does it look.?
Yaar, HEDGER
only 2 words.............DON'T APPLY!
reasons
1. its from sector...aviation
this sector is pretty new in india visvi stock markets..........only 1player worth is salt....JET
3rd marginss of companies are low.........many make looses at operational level./.........
4th with all competiotn this ROCE is bound to go down in futrte
5th air deccan is a economy common men travellor.........n common men are never richso this airline cannot reap huge profits any time soon.................unless the volume effect chips in
6th which won't happen because there are not enough planes n parking space
7th look at the daddy of planes JET came at99 or so still at 1000/1100 levels................roi is average over last year...........
8th u still will not get good allotment
9th so if at all buy on the first day at dips......or rite time
10th its hard to decide wat PE to give to such companies
11th u never 9 when therir plane crashes.........with that the stock price
u want more reasons................i will think of it........
world over aviatiobn stocks are not richely valued because of reasons i explained
disclaimer..friends..........my personal amateur opinion..... n should consult ur advisor
HEDGER
Hey guys , AIR DECCAN IPO.
how does it look.?
Yaar, HEDGER
only 2 words.............DON'T APPLY!
reasons
1. its from sector...aviation
this sector is pretty new in india visvi stock markets..........only 1player worth is salt....JET
3rd marginss of companies are low.........many make looses at operational level./.........
4th with all competiotn this ROCE is bound to go down in futrte
5th air deccan is a economy common men travellor.........n common men are never rich
6th which won't happen because there are not enough planes n parking space
7th look at the daddy of planes JET came at 900 or so still at 1000/1100 levels................roi is average over last year...........
8th u still will not get good allotment
9th so if at all buy on the first day at dips......or rite time
10th its hard to decide wat PE to give to such companies
11th u never 9 when their plane crashes.........with that the stock price
u want more reasons................i will think of it........
world over aviation stocks are not richely valued because of reasons i explained
disclaimer..friends..........my personal amateur opinion..... n should consult ur advisor
HEDGER
hi all
with no global cues................positively....
and with sell figure of 220 mllion dollars by FFIS on friday.....the markets are expected to open weak.....maybe rangebound......n may pick up late in the aft.. as some mutual.. or fii buying chips in.....
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news on cement prices will be out
open confro..bet manuf. and kamal nath.....his point being more rite as far as i ma concerned................why?will only share once the final shot has been fired!
real estate prices seem to have fallen 30% in bangalore as some reports in media suggest...................maybe the bubble is showing signs of overinflation in parts of country.............
HEDGER
only 2 words.............DON'T APPLY!
reasons
1. its from sector...aviation
this sector is pretty new in india visvi stock markets..........only 1player worth is salt....JET
3rd marginss of companies are low.........many make looses at operational level./.........
4th with all competiotn this ROCE is bound to go down in futrte
5th air deccan is a economy common men travellor.........n common men are never rich
6th which won't happen because there are not enough planes n parking space
7th look at the daddy of planes JET came at 900 or so still at 1000/1100 levels................roi is average over last year...........
8th u still will not get good allotment
9th so if at all buy on the first day at dips......or rite time
10th its hard to decide wat PE to give to such companies
11th u never 9 when their plane crashes.........with that the stock price
u want more reasons................i will think of it........
world over aviation stocks are not richely valued because of reasons i explained
disclaimer..friends..........my personal amateur opinion..... n should consult ur advisor
HEDGER
NAHIII baapre, nahi lagaaonga paisa
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maheshtk_21 SaysNAHIII baapre, nahi lagaaonga paisa
are u nuts..................u r feeling jovial today.
500 down................
.see my post in the moring at 5 am
i just thought of that word GLOBAL CUES.... n wat the hell................my prediction is true much to everyones................n my agony.................
after today i better open up a thread for charity donation......for myself:(
i may not be seen ........anywhere for a long time to come
Call it Panic, call it Brutal.
Markets down 486!!!!!!!!! Swtiched on television and every stock in the RED, ITC down 4%, Rel Ind down 4%, India Cements down 6% TISCO freaK sell and down 9%!!!! Watched Hindalco at one point down 13%!!!!!! Oh man could just go on........
I know Global cues were weak and opeing would be weak, commodity prices have taken a hit, but the kind of meltdown in stocks like TISCO is mind boggling!!!:wow: Gold lost $30 in just 15 minutes
But as things calmed down and again looked at prices and you kinda feel the fall wasnt that bad, not in terms of the panic selling but stocks are at prices which they were almost a month ago.
Anyways sure that today was just an intermediate fall and the bulls would bear us out once again. . The only thing I learnt is dont invest in the 3rd week of May, its jinxed
ps. just heard that the European markets have opended weak.
Markets down 486!!!!!!!!! Swtiched on television and every stock in the RED, ITC down 4%, Rel Ind down 4%, India Cements down 6% TISCO freaK sell and down 9%!!!! Watched Hindalco at one point down 13%!!!!!! Oh man could just go on........
I know Global cues were weak and opeing would be weak, commodity prices have taken a hit, but the kind of meltdown in stocks like TISCO is mind boggling!!!:wow:
Gold lost $30 in just 15 minutesBut as things calmed down and again looked at prices and you kinda feel the fall wasnt that bad, not in terms of the panic selling but stocks are at prices which they were almost a month ago.
Anyways sure that today was just an intermediate fall and the bulls would bear us out once again.
. The only thing I learnt is dont invest in the 3rd week of May, its jinxedps. just heard that the European markets have opended weak.
Yeh to hona hi tha, lekin aaj hi kyu?
Can anyone of you tell me this: if i apply for an IPO, then at what precise time will i get the the allotment of shares and can I sell the shares on the same day the shares are listed on the exchange?
Yeh to hona hi tha, lekin aaj hi kyu?
Can anyone of you tell me this: if i apply for an IPO, then at what precise time will i get the the allotment of shares and can I sell the shares on the same day the shares are listed on the exchange?
Hmm...aaj hi kyun????wel one of mah silly reason...Newton's Law of Gravity;)..."jo cheez upar jaati hain woh neeche zaroor aati hain"....othr and d most politically coreect reason...."CORRECTION"...dats d word.
well me not an xpert on market...but can give u a lil info...an IPO opens for application for few days,aftr dat d applications r sought out and d shares r alloted according to d amount subscribed for d shares(most of d times shares r over-subscribed)...i think d procedure takes 15-20 days(not sure though)
U can sell d stock on d same day...u can put up a bid for d price at which u want to sell ur share(consult ur broker to put d bid,or evn online it can b done)....and if d share touches dat price during d trading session...ur stocks wud b sold on d desired price.
PS...me not any market analyst,just like to follow d SENSEX...so if i have made ne mistake in mah post,sorry for d wrong info.
Hmm...aaj hi kyun????wel one of mah silly reason...Newton's Law of Gravity;)..."jo cheez upar jaati hain woh neeche zaroor aati hain"....othr and d most politically coreect reason...."CORRECTION"...dats d word.
well me not an xpert on market...but can give u a lil info...an IPO opens for application for few days,aftr dat d applications r sought out and d shares r alloted according to d amount subscribed for d shares(most of d times shares r over-subscribed)...i think d procedure takes 15-20 days(not sure though)
U can sell d stock on d same day...u can put up a bid for d price at which u want to sell ur share(consult ur broker to put d bid,or evn online it can b done)....and if d share touches dat price during d trading session...ur stocks wud b sold on d desired price.
PS...me not any market analyst,just like to follow d SENSEX...so if i have made ne mistake in mah post,sorry for d wrong info.
i think i ddnt convey myself properly. when do me as an investor come to know that i have got x number of shares of the IPO. Say the shares will start trading on 10th june. now tell me whne r the allotments disclosed to the investors.
rajsher Saysi think i ddnt convey myself properly. when do me as an investor come to know that i have got x number of shares of the IPO. Say the shares will start trading on 10th june. now tell me whne r the allotments disclosed to the investors.
got ur querry...hope thre is sum1 bettr dan me to guide u,well of wat i knw...u get d notification thru mail ....u'll get d lettr of how many shares have been alloted to u at ur place thru mail...got it?????
Eg:my dad applied for RPL IPO's...he got sum 300 shares alloted out of d huge lot he applied for...v got d lettr at r place thru courier..
hope i was able to b of lil help...sorry,me dun knw more dan dat.
rajsher Saysi think i ddnt convey myself properly. when do me as an investor come to know that i have got x number of shares of the IPO. Say the shares will start trading on 10th june. now tell me whne r the allotments disclosed to the investors.
Just chk ur demat account a day b4 the shares are due to start trading at the exchange, if they r there
, you can start trading at the moment the exchange opening bell is sounded (or place bids for them- buy or sell)Cheers
Tatha
In fact ... once the shares are in your Demat a/c you can transfer them to anybody's else's a/c even though trading hasnt started at BSE (correct me if I am wrong).
I am not sure about this, please check, after the closing date of the IPO, within 45 days (please check the numbers) the co has to allot the shares .. if it goes beyond then it has to pay interest to the applicant.
PS. not sure about the no. of days :p
*Consider the Risk factors in this piece of info. 😛
Crash!!!!! All global markets down so I guess this was inevitable
Yeh to hona hi tha, lekin aaj hi kyu?
Can anyone of you tell me this: if i apply for an IPO, then at what precise time will i get the the allotment of shares and can I sell the shares on the same day the shares are listed on the exchange?
According to SEBI guideline you should receive the shares withing 15 days of the closure of the book building process and allotment should be completed by the Registrar. In some cases it has taken longer and the listing of the shares is 3 weeks from the the closure of the issue. Yes as an retail investor you can sell the shares on the day of listing.
Today's crash to me was just another bad day with nothing in it's favour, gold prices shooting the roof and then crashing, other metals losing their shine, asian markets opening down and all of this has happened in the past but today was mainly triggered by people selling in panic.
In the end it was not that bad cause like I said before as prices of many scrips are what they were a month ago and if one invested a month ago would have been in decent gains.
What do you say fellas , this realty is turning into a big bubble, I know two of the heroes of it which are based near Kolkata, Bata and Hindustan Motors,both having land far off from the city ,so I am not so sure whether the price of developing land there will fetch them as much revenue as the markets are expecting. So lets be on our toes
Cheers
Tatha
In fact ... once the shares are in your Demat a/c you can transfer them to anybody's else's a/c even though trading hasnt started at BSE (correct me if I am wrong).
I am not sure about this, please check, after the closing date of the IPO, within 45 days (please check the numbers) the co has to allot the shares .. if it goes beyond then it has to pay interest to the applicant.
PS. not sure about the no. of days :p
*Consider the Risk factors in this piece of info. :p
3 weeks it should take to list once the issue is closed. so that's about 20-21 days
I wish they pay interest for the money blocked in IPO's:satisfie: , never come across such as scenario that and dont think they do,
Most allotments should be completed with 3 weeks else which I think SEBI would seek an explanation.
3 weeks it should take to list once the issue is closed. so that's about 20-21 days
I wish they pay interest for the money blocked in IPO's:satisfie: , never come across such as scenario that and dont think they do,
Most allotments should be completed with 3 weeks else which I think SEBI would seek an explanation.
I Guess, all my facts are fiction
:( 😞 😞 Should stop acting like a know-it-all :p
But I think this interest thingy is also within the rules .. please check 😐
I Guess, all my facts are fiction
:( 😞 😞 Should stop acting like a know-it-all :p
But I think this interest thingy is also within the rules .. please check :|
Dude, I dont think the posts were in anyway inappropriate, never claimed to know it all and will stand corrected otherwise.
??: I just shared my experience which is that allotment in most cases is complete within like 20-25 days which can be verified.:satisfie:
And yes did check (not in fine print though) that if the refund is delayed there is a clause that interest is paid which I dont think is the same for allotment period being delayed. And also checked with few friends in brokerages about whether its happened off late in any scenario and most arent aware so would be glad to know.
Will accept if I am wrong, was just sharing what I had in mind and that's it, which I think is perfectly ok.
What do you say fellas , this realty is turning into a big bubble, I know two of the heroes of it which are based near Kolkata, Bata and Hindustan Motors,both having land far off from the city ,so I am not so sure whether the price of developing land there will fetch them as much revenue as the markets are expecting. So lets be on our toes
Cheers
Tatha
With todays correction i think the real estate and cement as well as sugar sector have become really hot
I hv already put up my views on the real estate stocks earlier on this thread so they are big buys in days to come i think these stocks will become more than 10 times in 2 to 3 months.
Any opinion on the metal pack ...
Especially ... Tisco, Hindalco & Hindzinc.
PS. Anybody tracking HindCopper ? 😉 Take a look 😛