IE Spain Vs Cranfield Vs Simon Rochester

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Hi,I'm a 30 year old Chartered Accountant from India. I have over 7 years of work experience, 3 years in Ernst & Young India, 4 years in a Multinational Oil & Gas Company in Dubai. Now my dilemma, I got admits to three colleges, not sure which o...
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@bharatemail said:
Hi,Anybody interested in taking a loan for MBA. Please visit www.studentfunder.com/apply and see if you can get it at better rate from student funder. This is an organization started by a Cranfield alumni who is helping students across UK to fund their post graduation.Let me know if you are interested..I can connect you to the founder.
Great Bharatbhai, you are always helpful ..)
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Hi,


Anybody interested in taking a loan for MBA. Please visit www.studentfunder.com/apply and see if you can get it at better rate from student funder. This is an organization started by a Cranfield alumni who is helping students across UK to fund their post graduation.

Let me know if you are interested..I can connect you to the founder.
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@bharatemail said:
@WouldbeCrazyYes there would be close to 15 Indians in every batch. As I told you earlier these facts are just based on my rusty memory. I am not aware of many others. Things might become more clear once I go to college after my new year break and get some facts from Careers. I know you are spending a fortune for doing your MBA and you have to be very careful in which school you choose etc etc. One suggestion from my side would be don't make your decision entirely on which school can get you a decent job post mba. You will get a job and a decent one, the only thing is that you might or might not have to wait for few months after MBA. Also look at the quality of the education and the teaching methodology, lecturers who are teaching, International experience option etc before making a decision. If you can afford it think about these things also.


Bharat, I have very high regards for Cranfield. Personally I rank Cranfield before Oxbridge, only next to LBS and IMD in Europe. I said Europe, not only UK. I am also convinced that Cran placement cell is proactively and genuinely working on it. And the best part, most of the staff there genuinely try to help, unlike few (or just 2!!) very arrogant schools.

I do understand what you are trying to mean and definitely I will not chose a questionable school, no matter how mouth watering the offer might look or how highly they rank!!. It is a fine balance and now, in this uncertain economic climate, placement plays a crucial role. Placement probably would have been last in my list if it was 2007 ... but now, it is one of the very important selection criteria.

The reason is, believe me, if you are unable to apply your learning properly within 6 months of your graduation, you will forget most of your learnings in school.


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@WouldbeCrazy


Yes there would be close to 15 Indians in every batch. As I told you earlier these facts are just based on my rusty memory. I am not aware of many others. Things might become more clear once I go to college after my new year break and get some facts from Careers.
I know you are spending a fortune for doing your MBA and you have to be very careful in which school you choose etc etc. One suggestion from my side would be don't make your decision entirely on which school can get you a decent job post mba. You will get a job and a decent one, the only thing is that you might or might not have to wait for few months after MBA.

Also look at the quality of the education and the teaching methodology, lecturers who are teaching, International experience option etc before making a decision. If you can afford it think about these things also.

@shoryasunny

David Simmons is a gem. He is our executive MBA director. If you could read my posts in some of the Cranfield forums in pagalguy you will find that what also pulled me towards joining Cranfield is the interview with David Simmons.
Furthermore I don't think there is any comparison between Cranfield and Pittsburgh. Let me know in case you need any more information.
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Nothing I can say except sorry for these multiple posts above! My internet connection is not responding properly. Please consider only my last post above while replying.

Thanks and Regards

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Guys,
I am feeling lucky to have found this thread! Got to know a lot.
Could you please also help me decide which MBA program I should go for. I was looking for a 1 year program either in US (coz my wife is about to start her assignment there) and UK (coz of some great 1 year MBA programs there).
I have got admit into Cranfield (schol decision to come) and Pittsburgh university Katz business school's 1 year MBA program (40% schol). I am an Indian IT mail and would like to raise myself up the ladder in the same field or probably into technology consulting.

As of now, this is how I compare these 2:

Cranfield:
Pros-Brand name, excellent faculty, proximity to London, flagship 1 year MBA course,
Proximity to India, Prodigy finance, positive feedback from some IIM alumni
Cons: UK economy, EU crises, small market

Pittsburgh/Katz:
Pros-my H4 visa will work there, Pittsburgh city, American economy, my wife's stay in US, scholarship, helpful staff, Katzport program
Cons- Question about brand recognition, disappearance from some rankings, no clear placement stats available on 1 year MBA

The thing which pulls me towards Cranfield is the interview session I had with him last year.
Mr. David Simmons discussed with me on a variety of topics during this 1 hour session and it appeared to me that he was really interested in thoroughly exploring me from inside. Great time I had! I have no doubts in believing that at Cranfield, I would have great scope to develop myself personally, academically and professionally.

Now, I have to submit my token money by this month end. Could you please share your thoughts on this before I make my mind.

Thanks!

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Apology my test is not appearing properly above. I will just write is once again below:

Guys,
I am feeling lucky to have found this thread! Got to know a lot.
Could you please also help me decide which MBA program I should go for. I was looking for a 1 year program either in US (coz my wife is about to start her assignment there) and UK (coz of some great 1 year MBA programs there).
I have got admit into Cranfield (schol decision to come) and Pittsburgh university Katz business school's 1 year MBA program (40% schol). I am an Indian IT mail and would like to raise myself up the ladder in the same field or probably into technology consulting.

As of now, this is how I compare these 2:

Cranfield:
Pros-Brand name, excellent faculty, proximity to London, flagship 1 year MBA course,
Proximity to India, Prodigy finance, positive feedback from some IIM alumni
Cons: UK economy, EU crises, small market

Pittsburgh/Katz:
Pros-my H4 visa will work there, Pittsburgh city, American economy, my wife's stay in US, scholarship, helpful staff, Katzport program
Cons- Question about brand recognition, disappearance from some rankings, no clear placement stats available on 1 year MBA

The thing which pulls me towards Cranfield is the interview session I had with him last year.
Mr. David Simmons discussed with me on a variety of topics during this 1 hour session and it appeared to me that he was really interested in thoroughly exploring me from inside. Great time I had! I have no doubts in believing that at Cranfield, I would have great scope to develop myself personally, academically and professionally.

Now, I have to submit my token money by this month end. Could you please share your thoughts on this before I make my mind.

Thanks!

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Guys,

I am feeling lucky to have found this thread! Got to know a lot.

Could you please also help me decide which MBA program I should go for. I was looking for a 1 year program either in US (coz my wife is about to start her assignment there) and UK (coz of some great 1 year MBA programs there).

I have got admit into Cranfield (schol decision to come) and Pittsburgh university Katz business school's 1 year MBA program (40% schol). I am an Indian IT mail and would like to raise myself up the ladder in the same field or probably into technology consulting.

As of now, this is how I compare these 2:

Cranfield:

Pros-Brand name, excellent faculty, proximity to London, flagship 1 year MBA course,

Proximity to India, Prodigy finance, positive feedback from some IIM alumni

Cons: UK economy, EU crises, small market

Pittsburgh/Katz:

Pros-my H4 visa will work there, Pittsburgh city, American economy, my wife's stay in US, scholarship, helpful staff, Katzport program

Cons- Question about brand recognition, disappearance from some rankings, no clear placement stats available on 1 year MBA

The thing which pulls me towards Cranfield is the interview session I had for it last year.

Mr. David Simmons discussed with me on a variety of topics during this 1 hour session and it appeared to me that he was really interested in thoroughly exploring my fit to the course. Great time I had! I have no doubts in believing that at Cranfield, I would have great scope to develop myself personally, academically and professionally.

Now, I have to submit my token money by this month end. Could you please share your thoughts on this before I make my mind.

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You can also include IESE also in this list. From 2010 IESE has increased the batch size. Till the class of 2011, there used to be only about 14 Indian. From 2012 onwards there are more than 25-30 Indians. Of the 2012 class, about 10 are in search of jobs. Some are employed in India. Even for internship many did internship without any salary in Spain. I find there is no thread for IESE in Pagalguy or in GMATCLUB for 2014. If you are not getting a in Europe or UK, after spending almost E 100000, the person will become bankrupt. The outlook is like this from 2008-09.

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@bharatemail said:
Hi,The performance was not good for last year batch. I know few have to go back to India after MBA. But there were few who managed to get jobs. One got job in BP, one in Amazon, one went back to SAP. Few wanted to start something of their own. I am not aware of few others.As I told you earlier, jobs are there and its just that you have try harder and start from the beginning of the course.
Thank you so much. I really liked your honesty and direct answer.

As I know, generally batch of Cran range school has on an average 15 Indian students in a class of 70+/-. Some school has 30+ Indian students but generally 15-20 range, excluding NRI/PIO and neighboring countries of India etc.

So around 5 jobs (BP, Amazon, SAP + few more) is not an encouraging number. I do not believe those who could not managed to get a job are too inferior or less hardworking compared to who managed to get job. Many a times, it's just sheer LUCK or click at the right time.

Bharatbhai, my intention is never to single out Cran. I know the picture is the same for all schools, only a few admits that and many try to camouflage that. A 90% placement is very misleading and I never buy that story.

Hmm, it's a tough decision .. but I firmly believe when you will graduate or I will graduate, the outlook will be much better.

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