Gap between CAT and the rest of the Management aptitude test

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There is a immediate need to narrow down the standard of CAT Vs. rest of the management aptitude test in order to have some sort of quality standardization.
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Time to take stock of the overall scenario and landscape of the entire MBA spectrum and its overall direction and the desired objectives. One way is to live with whatever you have and another way to think out of the box and make the whole system actually meaningful in the true spirit of the quality output and bringing down the academic and industry gap.

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Yup, but XAT & CAT, both are standard, so removing them, does not create any sense.

Same with snap, they want to conduct their own exam, both 2 earn and save money.

If simbyosis, starts accepting CAT score, they have to pay IIMs, for using their score.

Moreover they will loose money from all, who are filling snap form currently, so why would these SMBYOSIS, go for CAT score??

the B schools, which expects less applicants, and is not a chin, those accept other scores

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A Standardized test after CAT which is good enough to filter quality students and certainly not multiple tests.

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@ABBS- said:
Exactly, and looks like we are getting on the same page. The point here I am trying to drive is not to have too many Management aptitude test which is prevailing in the market, rather a good bench marking which identifies the right aptitude and attitude for the candidate for management studies from the industry perspective and that's where the need is for a standardization of test.
so, what you prefer?

1. test or multiple tests?
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Exactly, and looks like we are getting on the same page. The point here I am trying to drive is not to have too many Management aptitude test which is prevailing in the market, rather a good bench marking which identifies the right aptitude and attitude for the candidate for management studies from the industry perspective and that's where the need is for a standardization of test.
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@ABBS- said:
@swayambhar Products which are of top quality is the one which the buyers will always buy and this applies to the any given demand and supply scenario. Coming back to the core question is how we ensure that the inflow in the MBA stream ensures the quality which industry wants. The need for MBA graduates in the industry is certainly much more than what is being absorbed and the ones not picked by Industry is because they do not fit the bill and not because there is over supply.

that is true I also agree, just having a degree not qualifies you to be a manager.

At lower end of the line, a lot of B schools, just take the students to fill their seats, there comes the difference.

the reason for this again goes the same fact, that there are a lot of B schools and every b school do not get the best, since people go for better brands and better reputed ones.

So, now if you go to the inflow of B schools, the major research says that managers needs:
1. Communication skills
2. Patience.
3. Knowledge.
4. Thinking out of the box.
5. Analytical skills.

And every B schools have their ow strategy to groom the graduates in above fields.

For that they need to take in students, who has the capability of learning those 5 things.

And these things can be judged by having personal interaction with them, that is where GD/PI comes.

CAT/XAT/CMAT/MAT scores are some standards of shortlisting or filtering the students.

Just imagine if 6000 B schools start conducting their own written test, how many tests ou are going to face in a single day
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@swayambhar Products which are of top quality is the one which the buyers will always buy and this applies to the any given demand and supply scenario. Coming back to the core question is how we ensure that the inflow in the MBA stream ensures the quality which industry wants. The need for MBA graduates in the industry is certainly much more than what is being absorbed and the ones not picked by Industry is because they do not fit the bill and not because there is over supply.
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@swayambhar said:
The GAP, for wich industry is not absorbing is because of the supply of MBA graduate.Just apply th ebasic concepts of ECONOMICS, compare the demand and supply curve.Few months back AICTE has cancelled affiliation for a lot of B schools, still India has 4000+ AICTE affiliated B schools.So, if you put a count on the no. of B schools at India, the count will be around 6000.So, just imagine the no. of manager passing out each year.Ie., the supply of managers to the industry is immense.But demand of MBAs are not increasing, as per the increase of supply.So, the price is reducing. That is, salaries are falling down.And we are left with a lot of unsold products; or you can say lots of unplaced or unemployed managers
Very well said.
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Obviously quality of a certain institute will alwyas differ from other institutes, the faculty,the insfrastructure, the international exposure, the tie up's with corporates, the fee structure for students, the programme structure are some things which are already established in a good,old institute which commands good corporate presence. Naturally some institiutes donot fufill these criterias as well as others do. Moreover BRAND name matters a lot in the market as I'm sure you know.

It is this brand name and trust developed over a period of time by these elite institutes which pulls big conglomerates here.
Also since the most intelligent and cream students select these institutes the quality is further enhanced every year.. and trust maintained with the corporated.
The rest are selected in various other institutes... This does not imply they are bad, or that teh institute is incompetent... it's just that they are lacking in certain areas which is dragging them down..
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@ABBS- said:
Going with this logic and assuming the current filtration process is working fine then why the Industry employability ratio for the MBA graduates are so poor ? Theoretically GD/PI takes care of qualities and B-Schools are teaching what is needed to be taught then why Industry do not absorb them ? Where is the GAP ? Why Industry feels safe to pick up students from only certain campus ?
The GAP, for wich industry is not absorbing is because of the supply of MBA graduate.

Just apply th ebasic concepts of ECONOMICS, compare the demand and supply curve.

Few months back AICTE has cancelled affiliation for a lot of B schools, still India has 4000+ AICTE affiliated B schools.

So, if you put a count on the no. of B schools at India, the count will be around 6000.

So, just imagine the no. of manager passing out each year.

Ie., the supply of managers to the industry is immense.

But demand of MBAs are not increasing, as per the increase of supply.

So, the price is reducing. That is, salaries are falling down.

And we are left with a lot of unsold products; or you can say lots of unplaced or unemployed managers
Goa Institute of Management (2012-14 Batch)
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