Attnetion All M.B.A. Aspirants applying for AICTE approved Colleges

Hi all.I have one thing to share with all of u. I hope all of u read the new guidelines given by AICTE to b-schools in the article “AICTE DIKTAT…” on PG’s main page. So the concern now is that whether b-schools of mumbai and pune will be fol…

Thanks for the info.
it's really important info.

Well it's really puzzling situation leaving students "between the devil and the deep blue sea(idhar jaye to khai,udhar jaye to kua)".

confusion is should we fill forms or should we wait for the court judgements.well we can fill form but if gd-pi is taking place before the judgement and we have to submit fee if we are selected but then judgement comes adverse then that will be problamatic.

so other b-schools should extend form filling dates like bimm pune and should clearly mention on their website if they are going in court against aicte decision or they are following aicte decision.

Nothing surprising,I wud have Been surprised if it happened smoothly, the truth is every single thing in india happens in a messed up way, small and big things alike. The education sector more so, some private bschools like Isb, are the exception

@ROONEY there is no use of just blaming AICTE because we all know that only blaming will not work.
what we can do is we should call and e-mail those b-schools of our choices and should ask their stance about the matter and should ask if they r extending or thinking to extend last dates of applications as ruling from courts on this matter will take some time.
so last dates might be extended to 2-3 more weeks by those colleges which are going in court against the aicte decision and those institute which are ready to follow aicte decision,they should clearly mention it on their website so that students don't get confused about their admission criteria.

@ROONEY there is no use of just blaming AICTE because we all know that only blaming will not work.
what we can do is we should call and e-mail those b-schools of our choices and should ask their stance about the matter and should ask if they r extending or thinking to extend last dates of applications as ruling from courts on this matter will take some time.
so last dates might be extended to 2-3 more weeks by those colleges which are going in court against the aicte decision and those institute which are ready to follow aicte decision,they should clearly mention it on their website so that students don't get confused about their admission criteria.


Aicte itself doesnt know what its doing, it is all a big confusion over who will conduct gd/pi, and once admissions are over, then somebody would appeal in courts, they will reverse the decision, and big mess again, I am willing to bet that , when admitting, the bschools will make the students sign an agreement sayin, they will pay the fees, if increased etc, its the truth buddy, we cant ignore it, better to stay prepared, yes?
Rooney7 Says
Aicte itself doesnt know what its doing, it is all a big confusion over who will conduct gd/pi, and once admissions are over, then somebody would appeal in courts, they will reverse the decision, and big mess again, I am willing to bet that , when admitting, the bschools will make the students sign an agreement sayin, they will pay the fees, if increased etc, its the truth buddy, we cant ignore it, better to stay prepared, yes?


Well it's true that there have been problems and corruption issuse in the AICTE body itself.
So i don't expect any sincere and responsible behaviour from the side of AICTE but i hope from some reputed b-schools(i will not take their names here but i hope u all know which are reputed aicte approved b-schools of mumbai,pune.. which accept MAT/ATMA scores) to clear their stand before students on this issue and to extend dates of filling forms as colleges of SRI balaji society did.

well i'm not sure if anyother college will put their stand cleary like colleges of balaji society did but i think if we try by calling,e-mailing them then it will surely pressurise them to tell students clearly that what is their stand

it's the only thing we can do in our favour.
if neither AICTE nor M.B.A. colleges are worrying about about us then we ourselves have to worry about us and have to ask from colleges what is their stand.

I wonder only 3 PG's have given their response in posts while this is a important matter for most of the PG's

Yeah dude, i too am surprised nobody cares, maybe thats coz many ppl have reserved quota seats, and no fees which they get in Mms only, not pgdm, that can be one reason

so what should a MBA aspirant needs to do if AICTE wins the case? and what we need to do if the colleges wins it?

I haven't applied for MAHCET exam.. so if AICTE wins the case and BIMM decides to abide by AICTE rules to make sure they have AICTE approval, My chances of getting into BIMM this yr is over???

And is it applicable only for colleges in Maharashtra or all over India. For example im going to apply for JIMS, MSRIM and CHRIST, should i have to appear for there respective state CET exams in order to get selected???

so what should a MBA aspirant needs to do if AICTE wins the case? and what we need to do if the colleges wins it?

I haven't applied for MAHCET exam.. so if AICTE wins the case and BIMM decides to abide by AICTE rules to make sure they have AICTE approval, My chances of getting into BIMM this yr is over???

And is it applicable only for colleges in Maharashtra or all over India. For example im going to apply for JIMS, MSRIM and CHRIST, should i have to appear for there respective state CET exams in order to get selected???



well first let me make it clear that it is not mandatory for any aicte approved college of any state to admit students only thorough respective cet of that state but as given on sribalaji.org-
1.
"T the AICTE has notified to all the Institutes offering PGDM programmes in entire India, stating that the admission process for PGDM programmes shall be held with State CET process at par with admissions for MBA degrees.
2. This is supposed to be followed by all the states in India."
1. and according to article on PG's MAIN PAGE "AICTE DIKTA...." THE PGDM ADMISSION PROCESS SHOULD BE DONE BY THE COMPETENT AUTHORITIES OF RESPECTIVE STATE MEANS THAT EITHER COLLEGES SHOULD HANDOVER THE ADMISSION PROCESS TO STATE OR THEY SHOULD GO TO COURT.
IF COLLEGES(GUIDELINES ARE FOR ALL AICTE APPROVED B-SCHOOLS OF INDIA) DON'TGO TO COURT AGAINST AICTE GUIDELINES TO GET THEM CHANGED AND ADMIT STUDENTS ON THEIR LEVEL THAT WILL BE BAD FOR STUDENTS BCZ COLLEGES NEITHER WENT TO COURT AGAINST AICTE GUIDELINES NOR THEY FOLLOWED GUIDELINES FOR ADMISSION PROCESS WHICH IS -"THE PGDM ADMISSION PROCESS SHOULD BE DONE BY THE COMPETENT AUTHORITIES OF RESPECTIVE STATE" .SO WOULDN'T BE IT STUPIDITY IF COLLEGE DO THIS THING.
BALAJI SOCIETY SAID STUDENTS TO APPEAR FOR CET TO BE ON SAFER SIDE. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? IT MEANS IF THEY LOST IN COURT THEN THEY WILL BE ADMITTING STUDENTS THROUGH CET SCORE AND THE ADMISSION PROCESS MIGHT BE UNDER THE CONTROL OF DTE .

Thanks orvil for the thread initiation. I would like to invest few cents of mine. As you said we should try to contact respective institutions regarding the matter, I'll say why not put individual's conversation (if anyone do) through email or phone call, here. Let everyone tell what you asked to the respective institution and what they replied you. So that we have points on which we can discuss and take our further decisions.

I would like to ask can we file an RTI against AICTE in any situation or not ? (as I am not sure about) Since recently AICTE have clearly refused to give information about the signed MOU between AICTE and Microsoft.

but what about delhi/noida?

what was my concern specially about colleges of mumbai and pune, seems in case of some colleges that is going to be true(read my first post of this thread).
balaji society ( bimm pune,bimhrd pune....) has already extended dates of filling form and has advised students to appear for mhcet to be safer side.
that means if they lost in court they will be admitting students through mhcet so that their admission process could be under control of dte as per the guidelines of aicte.

now siescoms navi mumbai has changed its admission criteraia at last time.They are saying that pgdm is for south indian linguisitic minority and they will accept only mhcet and feb 2011 mat scores while even in their pgdm form options of using any one of the cat/dec mat/atma/mhcet of 2010 is given and it is written if u have appeared for dec mat 2010 then send a copy of it to them with form.

only 2 days ago someone posted in thread of siescoms that pgdm is for south indian linguisitic minority and now people are wondering that when did they made pgdm for south indian linguistic minority only?
please pay attention to the fact that no one from siescoms including thread opener which was a student of siescoms said that pgdm is for south indian linguistic minority.
this is the link for siescoms admission thread.here u will find many students perplexed about acceptance of score cards that score of which exam they will accept.
http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/siescoms-mms-pgdba-2011-2013-aspirants-25057623

In next posti'm copy pasting what i wrote in thread of siescom admission query

Thanks and Regards
Orvil

Re: SIESCOMS MMS-PGDBA 2011-2013 aspirants - 18-02-2011, 11:44 AM - Add Post To Favorites
Hi All. I have some information for those who have not filled forms of siescoms till now.
Today I phoned siescoms on nos. 02227708376,02227708377.ring went for some time ,then at first a machinecal voice said welcome to siescoms,for admission related queries press 9 then i pressed 9 and ring went again but nobody received my call.i tried many times and at last on no. 02227708376 a lady received my call.
I said goodmorning to her and then said that I had a admission related query about PGDM course.
The lady said Siescoms pgdm is for south indian linguistic minority.
i said ok,i wanted to know siescoms is accepting scorecards of which exams for its pgdm.She replied mhcet and feb 2011 mat.I said but in the pdgm form it is given that siescoms will accept cat/mat/atma/mhcet scores of year 2010.
she said we are accepting feb 2011 mat and mhcet only.
so now it's clear they will accept only mhcet and feb mat.well feb mat was on 6th and 12 th(cbt test)and results will not be out before 24th of feb or may be later after that.and last date of reaching form to them is 26th of feb.so do ask to them about this if anyone of u has appeared for feb mat.
I never knew pgdm course of siescoms is for south indian linguistic minority.
u guys may call on the given nos. and if u get some different information about admission then post here.
well i think change in acceptance of scorecards is due to the reason that siescoms is following new aicte guidelines. read the thread which i created that was related to this matter link is here http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/attnetion-all-mba-aspirants-applying-for-aicte-approved-colleges-25062929

Thanks and Regards
Orvil

Another college which i came to know is aicar.net.it is also changing criteria about acceptance of score card.So please anyone before filling form of this college confirm on phone which score will they use for admission and also ask their stand about aicte guidelines.
I have e-mailed itm navi mumbai 3-4 days ago on address [email protected] about this matter asking their stand and acceptance of scores but till today i didn't receive any reply.
i e-mailed to siescoms also at [email protected] ,Students Council: [email protected],[email protected] but not received any reply ,could got information today only after calling them many times as i mentioned in my post above this post
Website: www.siescoms.edu

Next_Stop_IIM Says
but what about delhi/noida?

IF COLLEGES(GUIDELINES ARE FOR ALL AICTE APPROVED B-SCHOOLS OF INDIA) DON'TGO TO COURT AGAINST AICTE GUIDELINES TO GET THEM CHANGED AND ADMIT STUDENTS ON THEIR LEVEL THAT WILL BE BAD FOR STUDENTS BCZ COLLEGES NEITHER WENT TO COURT AGAINST AICTE GUIDELINES NOR THEY FOLLOWED AICTE GUIDELINES FOR ADMISSION PROCESS WHICH IS -"THE PGDM ADMISSION PROCESS SHOULD BE DONE BY THE COMPETENT AUTHORITIES OF RESPECTIVE STATE" .SO WOULDN'T BE IT STUPIDITY IF COLLEGE DO THIS THING.

so ask to any aicte approved college whose form u r going to fill about their stand on this matter then think of getting admission.
IF COLLEGES(GUIDELINES ARE FOR ALL AICTE APPROVED B-SCHOOLS OF INDIA) DON'TGO TO COURT AGAINST AICTE GUIDELINES TO GET THEM CHANGED AND ADMIT STUDENTS ON THEIR LEVEL THAT WILL BE BAD FOR STUDENTS BCZ COLLEGES NEITHER WENT TO COURT AGAINST AICTE GUIDELINES NOR THEY FOLLOWED AICTE GUIDELINES FOR ADMISSION PROCESS WHICH IS -"THE PGDM ADMISSION PROCESS SHOULD BE DONE BY THE COMPETENT AUTHORITIES OF RESPECTIVE STATE" .SO WOULDN'T BE IT STUPIDITY IF COLLEGE DO THIS THING.

so ask to any aicte approved college whose form u r going to fill about their stand on this matter then think of getting admission.

Mate, I meant that there is no state-level CET exam for the state of Delhi and hence what happens with the colleges located in Delhi/NCR? We called up IMT and they said that nothing to panic and no official notification has reached them. Maybe CAT is still a valid indicator and the rule is mainly for states and not union territories.
Next_Stop_IIM Says
Mate, I meant that there is no state-level CET exam for the state of Delhi and hence what happens with the colleges located in Delhi/NCR? We called up IMT and they said that nothing to panic and no official notification has reached them. Maybe CAT is still a valid indicator and the rule is mainly for states and not union territories.



well u can apply through cat/mat.it is also given in aicte guidelines but aicte said admission process should under guidance of competent authorities of respective state. i have no knowledge about imt(ghaziabad) related to this matter.but colleges like siescoms,aicar,dr v.n. bedakar institute of managemnet are following the aicte guidelines.

in beginning of feb i had e-mailed to v.n bedakar inst. of mgmt bcz it was listed in atma colleges on atma website atma-aims.org and they replied they will accept only cet for their pgdm according to new guidelines of aicte.

As far as i know guidelines are for all aicte approved colleges but yes as I said in my first post my concern is more about colleges of mumbai and pune as some of them are going for cet scores.
read the two articles on pg whose link i have given at the end of my first post to get the clear idea and also read "Aicte Diktat...." on main page of PG.

The most tough time is for those who are in last year of grad and applied to colleges like SBS , already SBS(balaji) has extended late gdpi dates , near our final exams n now the gr8 f***g rules of AICTE have made the colleges under MAH to extend last dates which will result to clash with our final exams , indirectly no to OMS students...whether the decision goes in our interest or not who will care then...I think OMS should try to secure their seats outside mah or drop a year...INDIAN BODIES like AICTE $uckS and I think this will take another 50 years to get a true democracy...we should do something for our future...jaago re