ok this is something which is killing more than the wait.......

say the calls are being announced and all the IIMs have been announced with their calls.


you are expecting about 3-4 calls........

so now... which IIM site do you visit first......

will you start with IIMA or IIMI/K

Rephrasing the question....

you want the good news first or the bad one???

What are the chances that pagalguy comes down dut to heavy traffic.........

Also... did anyone read the TOI today. It says the percentile scores will be given today....

When will the calls be announced...

is it different from the process followed last year, where first the calls and then the percentiles are released.....

Awaiting your comments......

Hi,

I have been reading a lot about the CAT-retest and i felt the need to say something about it.
Let me start however by saying that I understand a large number of students have wasted precious minutes on the wrong questions, myself being one of them, however i feel CAT retest is not an adequate solution.

My reasons for the above statement are as follows:
1-- CAT is conducted at great cost to the IIMs and would be too time consuming at this stage. It would postpone the 2007-09 session by 2 months. This would affect everyone, most of all the students who get into IIMs this year.
2-- It would be unfair to a large number of students who have done well, and asking would retest would result only in a series of PILs but both aggrieved parties...
3-- This is not a case of an exam paper being leaked, and hence does not require a re-test. Wrong questions are wrong and should have been treated as wrong or unsolvable questions by the candidates. If the student has wasted too much time at a question..( i repeat this includes me..) it shows his inability to make a discerning judgement and move on...after all no one expects you to solve every question in the CAT paper.

Now...lets get into detail...

A)---------A question in RC had only 3 options in a particular paper set...( say 444)

The question should be marked normally for the other 3 sets... because eliminating the question would give a +1 mark benefit to someone who got it wrong or a -4 loss to someone who got it right.

In 444 it should be neglected.

This immediately makes it clear that cutoffs will differ according to paper set...

B)--------- The survey question in QA was printed wrong in 333.

Here also the question should be marked regularly in 111,222,444 for the aforesaid reasons...

In set 333, the question was wrong, however the correct answer was present in the options...

Now, anyone who attempted it, and marked it wrong, was foolish enough to realise the question was wrong and wasted time due to lack of judgement ( which is an important attribute for a manager). Hence he should be penalised -1.
Anyone who attempted it and marked the right answer, must have fluked. Since it is not possible to get the correct answer with the given data, hence he must be awarded -1 as well ( he is displaying characteristics unbecoming of a manager )

C)---- The free luggage question in QA... did not have the correct answer in the options...

Here anyone who marked an answer, either fluked it, or made a bad judgement...
Hence he should be penalised -1.

For anyone who did not mark it, it is consequential whether he wasted time on the question or not, since a good future manager is expected to realise the value of his time in CAT and move ahead...

I sympathise with the CAT takers who feel cheated because of these errors, and must add that i myself lost ten minutes due to my shortsightedness and bad decisions. However, i do not feel demanding a re-test is a right solution.

Hi,

I have been reading a lot about the CAT-retest and i felt the need to say something about it.
Let me start however by saying that I understand a large number of students have wasted precious minutes on the wrong questions, myself being one of them, however i feel CAT retest is not an adequate solution.

My reasons for the above statement are as follows:
1-- CAT is conducted at great cost to the IIMs and would be too time consuming at this stage. It would postpone the 2007-09 session by 2 months. This would affect everyone, most of all the students who get into IIMs this year.
2-- It would be unfair to a large number of students who have done well, and asking would retest would result only in a series of PILs but both aggrieved parties...
3-- This is not a case of an exam paper being leaked, and hence does not require a re-test. Wrong questions are wrong and should have been treated as wrong or unsolvable questions by the candidates. If the student has wasted too much time at a question..( i repeat this includes me..) it shows his inability to make a discerning judgement and move on...after all no one expects you to solve every question in the CAT paper.

Now...lets get into detail...

A)---------A question in RC had only 3 options in a particular paper set...( say 444)

The question should be marked normally for the other 3 sets... because eliminating the question would give a +1 mark benefit to someone who got it wrong or a -4 loss to someone who got it right.

In 444 it should be neglected.

This immediately makes it clear that cutoffs will differ according to paper set...

B)--------- The survey question in QA was printed wrong in 333.

Here also the question should be marked regularly in 111,222,444 for the aforesaid reasons...

In set 333, the question was wrong, however the correct answer was present in the options...

Now, anyone who attempted it, and marked it wrong, was foolish enough to realise the question was wrong and wasted time due to lack of judgement ( which is an important attribute for a manager). Hence he should be penalised -1.
Anyone who attempted it and marked the right answer, must have fluked. Since it is not possible to get the correct answer with the given data, hence he must be awarded -1 as well ( he is displaying characteristics unbecoming of a manager )

C)---- The free luggage question in QA... did not have the correct answer in the options...

Here anyone who marked an answer, either fluked it, or made a bad judgement...
Hence he should be penalised -1.

For anyone who did not mark it, it is consequential whether he wasted time on the question or not, since a good future manager is expected to realise the value of his time in CAT and move ahead...

I sympathise with the CAT takers who feel cheated because of these errors, and must add that i myself lost ten minutes due to my shortsightedness and bad decisions. However, i do not feel demanding a re-test is a right solution.

Hi,

I have been reading a lot about the CAT-retest and i felt the need to say something about it.
Let me start however by saying that I understand a large number of students have wasted precious minutes on the wrong questions, myself being one of them, however i feel CAT retest is not an adequate solution.

My reasons for the above statement are as follows:
1-- CAT is conducted at great cost to the IIMs and would be too time consuming at this stage. It would postpone the 2007-09 session by 2 months. This would affect everyone, most of all the students who get into IIMs this year.
2-- It would be unfair to a large number of students who have done well, and asking would retest would result only in a series of PILs but both aggrieved parties...
3-- This is not a case of an exam paper being leaked, and hence does not require a re-test. Wrong questions are wrong and should have been treated as wrong or unsolvable questions by the candidates. If the student has wasted too much time at a question..( i repeat this includes me..) it shows his inability to make a discerning judgement and move on...after all no one expects you to solve every question in the CAT paper.

Now...lets get into detail...

A)---------A question in RC had only 3 options in a particular paper set...( say 444)

The question should be marked normally for the other 3 sets... because eliminating the question would give a +1 mark benefit to someone who got it wrong or a -4 loss to someone who got it right.

In 444 it should be neglected.

This immediately makes it clear that cutoffs will differ according to paper set...

B)--------- The survey question in QA was printed wrong in 333.

Here also the question should be marked regularly in 111,222,444 for the aforesaid reasons...

In set 333, the question was wrong, however the correct answer was present in the options...

Now, anyone who attempted it, and marked it wrong, was foolish enough to realise the question was wrong and wasted time due to lack of judgement ( which is an important attribute for a manager). Hence he should be penalised -1.
Anyone who attempted it and marked the right answer, must have fluked. Since it is not possible to get the correct answer with the given data, hence he must be awarded -1 as well ( he is displaying characteristics unbecoming of a manager )

C)---- The free luggage question in QA... did not have the correct answer in the options...

Here anyone who marked an answer, either fluked it, or made a bad judgement...
Hence he should be penalised -1.

For anyone who did not mark it, it is consequential whether he wasted time on the question or not, since a good future manager is expected to realise the value of his time in CAT and move ahead...

I sympathise with the CAT takers who feel cheated because of these errors, and must add that i myself lost ten minutes due to my shortsightedness and bad decisions. However, i do not feel demanding a re-test is a right solution.

Would appreciate if all you people atleast give it a thought, before coming up with your criticisms.

Have a great day........

hey @vikram_k51

i share ur concerns....he he
but the thing is....a change prepares u for the worst....this was an unexpected change.......it did shake quite a few ppl....it makes ur choice tough.....many ppl go for elimination of wrong answers ......for them....tis would make the paper tougher.......

however i feel they should stop experimenting and in fact stop setting tough papers....

in the last 3 weeks....

hey folks.....
i dont know wat time is upto....but i guess they r out there to shatter the morale.

TIME does it regularly every yr. as CAT comes closer, the mocks become tougher....
it just kills the confidence.....

another dismal performance

VA...22.5
DI 13.00
QA 7.25


total 42.75

down 20 marks from last mock,

also i find a lot of ambiguity in the answer key....

QUESTION 63:

A kind of anti-society has grown among the population of the cities which is written on the faces of the young men,most of them permanently unemployed, and when u approach to speak to them, their __________ faces betray not a flicker of recognition of your shared _____.


answers says....immobile .....humanity..

cant understand...wat shared humanity means.....whec unemployement is a concern

thought answer was...deadpan....concern....

no flicker of recognition means.....deadpan ( lacking expression)


watdyasay

mock was gud,
for a change competency in all sections was on a lurid display.

DI 17.33
VA 23.33
QA 21.0

SCore: 61.66

have to say, it was an easy paper, its a different story that i messed it up big time

VA 28.66
DI 9.33 thats supposed to be my strongest section
QA 5.66 dont even ask

yeah as u can see the problem is in QA....
i didnt attempt the easy ones and tried to crack the tough ones as if i were einstein's reincarnate

well learnt a lesson.
gotta fix it next time.

60+ for sure next time.

well i think this is a good initiative. but what we really need is someone to discuss basic economics and finance. esp for the benefit for non-commerce folks.

not in terms of finance and economics jargon, but in layman terms.
as to what..things like .... disinvestment , divestment etc. are........

wadyasay........