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    IIM Udaipur launches dual degree exec MBA with four international schools
    by Lajwanti D'Souza in IIM Udaipur, exec MBA programme, Purdue University on 19 September '12

    For the first time, an Indian Institute of Management is launching an executive MBA programme which will not only confer a dual degree/diploma but also involve a 'joint-learning’ process across four different schools from around the world. IIM Udaipur is going to kick-start this different execuive MBA programme from January 2013.

    Hoping not to become just another executive MBA line-up, this one, while being a broad-based one, will specialise in Global Supply Chain management. The other three schools which will conduct the programme almost simultaneously, are Purdue University’s Krannert School of Management, US, Universidad Puebla in Mexico (UPEAP), and Tianjin University in China.

    In years to come, if this programme turns successful, the dual degree and four-school teaching concept will be extended to the PGP course as well.

    Speaking exclusively to PaGaLGuY.com, director of IIMU Prof Janat Shah said that while discussions to this effect were being held since a year, it has only been a few days that the structure got finalised and all the permissions came in. The dual degree programme (in which Purdue University will offer a degree and IIMU will confer a diploma) has been through layers of discussions and sought different types of approvals. Being the first of its kind, it took time for the sanctions to come in. Though an IIM does not have to technically apply for a sanction from the Ministry of Human Resources (HRD), it has to seek an endorsement from its Board, which consists of a few members from the HRD ministry.

    Prof Shah said that Purdue which specialises in Supply Chain Management has been conducting such programmes across universities for years now. “This time it decided to extend to BRIC countries and also include Universidad Puebla in Mexico,” he added.

    According to Prof Shah, the key take-away of this programme will be the direct global exposure. “Not only will my students learn from international faculty but they will also be sharing classroom space with students from the other three countires, which will enrich the learning. Besides, my faculty will also get a chance to teach international students in an a global environment.”

    About when asked why the emphasis on supply-chain management, Prof Shah said: “Supply Chain Managers are responsible for synchronising the flow of products, information and finance between their organisation, suppliers and customers in a way that adds value for the end consumers of their products. In the hypercompetitive world of today, supply chain managers are increasingly part of their strategic management teams that work to competitively position their organization and their supply chain in a global marketplace.”

    Prof Shah claims the ample research and study has gone into the market-viability of this idea and also the job prospects post the course. It was only when IIMU and Purdue were convinced that there is a future, were the first steps taken. Ironically, none of the four schools are going to be pushing for internationnal placements right away and will think of them only after the course stabilises.

    According to the schedule worked out, the course will span 15 months and be broadly divided into four modules. The first and fourth modules which will extend from January to April 2013 and January to March 2014, respectively, will be held in Udaipur. Modules 2 and 3 which begin in June 2013 and go up to December 2013 will be held at Purdue University. It is at Purdue that students from all four school will be seated in the same classroom.

    Students can choose to do his or her internship from any of the four participating countries. IIMU faculty will also jointly work with faculty from the other three schools during the internship. Incidentally, IIMU had advertised in The Economist for faculty a couple of weeks ago. The institute is presently studying some 15 applications, many of which are from China and Korea.

    The intake for the first batch is about 15-20 students and preference will be given to executives possessing a Bachelor’s degree or equivalent (in any discipline) and relevant work experience of a minimum of 30 months. The selection of the students will be done jointly by IIM Udaipur and Purdue University, using GMAT scores, essays and panel interviews.

    Those with fewer months of experience but extremely talented may also be absorbed in this course. According to Prof Shah, applications will be invited from mid-October onwards and final offers will be made beginning of November.

    But wait, none of this will come cheap. Cumulative costs are a steep Rs 20 lakhs plus, which is what IIM Ahmedabad and IIM Bangalore executive pogrammes charge, so also the Indian School of Business for its flagship programme. While justifying the costs, Prof Shah said that if internships have to be done abroad and also a semester has to be conducted on international shores, expenses will be on the upper side.

    To break up the expenses, while the Purdue stint costs USD 20,000, (exclusive of living expenses which will work out to an additional USD 5-6,000), the Indian stint will cost Rs 5,00,000 lakhs, which is also exclusive of living expenses.

    Students do have a choice of not undertaking the international stint but they will be discouraged from doing since it forms an integral part of the course. According to Prof Shah, loans should be readily available since the fees are in the same range as IIMA or IIMB’s executive programme fees.

    When asked whether the initiative will also net IIMU international students, Prof Shah said that it was not the intention at this stage but may be later. When reminded that a similar marketing venture between an Indian school and three other Asian school has not met with rocking success so far, Prof Shash said that this programme will evolve over time and change depending on the needs and trends in the market.

    This new initiative is a bold new step by the IIMU considering that it is one of the newer IIMs. Yes, it has been a trend among the IIMs and other b-schools to start executive MBA programmes but whether the costs justify the content in this case, only January 2013 will tell.

    Questions that come to mind are,

    1. If one has to do an executive MBA, why do it from a new IIM, why not one of the older ones or other good schools already in the fray.

    2. Is a dual degree/diploma as rewarding as made out to be? Do job prospects turn brighter after a dual certification?

    3. Though a general executive MBA programe, the emphasis is on Global Supply Management. This might automatically restrict applicants.

    4. Since exchange programmes are a done thing in schools these days, will a stint at Purdue excite, even if it means sharing a classroom with students from Mexico, US and China

    5. Should IIMU have waited to get its own campus before looking at global programmes?

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    ajithpancily, vemuluri133 & 9 others like this
    • pandit_pujari doodh ke daant abhi nikle nahi hain aur ye tevar!
      #1 • 19 Sep '12 Like 17
    • batiatus The kind of foreign B-schools IIM-U has tied up speaks volumes about the quality of the program and about IIM-U's own standing. Besides, the recent wave of launching executive programs from the IIMs is nothing but a money spinning scheme. May GOD save the (to be) admitted students !!
      #2 • 19 Sep '12 Like 3
    • maverickraj Initiative seems to be nice from IIMU of starting executive program with a dual specialization. But there are certain doubts for this start to succeed. IIMU itself is a very new instiitute, although the tag IIM is old, but IIMU is a new institution altogether.
      Secondly, as it is a new IIM, it does not have alumni base for back up. How crucial is alumni can be seen by the kind of funds and help they provide to their colleges. Also recently IIMC director Mr. Shekhar Chaudhary himself said about the initiatives to involve alumni.
      Adding to the pain, is the ongoing rift between the old and new IIMs. Definitely, the tag IIM is there with Udaipur but there are many good institutes who have standing in 2 year programs for the last many years and having a good alumni base. Apart from old IIMs and league 1 institutes like XLRI and SP Jain, institutes like IMT, Great Lakes, Welingkar Institute of Management have also started Executive Programs.
      So, I think the initiative of IIMU is good but too early to start with.

      ~Cheers
      #3 • 19 Sep '12 Like
    • thouti ATB to IIMU, Im sure Prof Shah can turn things around for IIMU!!!
      #4 • 19 Sep '12 Like 2
    • Quantohelp @maverickraj I did not get your point here. While all the points you've mentioned are facts, still these cannot be the reasons for IIMU not to start such a course. Sure, they may not get the best of the MBA applicant pool. But there is no dearth of MBA applicants. As long as they have the necessary faculty base to take up this additional responsibility, I think it is a good decision by IIMU.
      #5 • 19 Sep '12 Like 2
    • DEVILISHANGEL @batiatus:well said my friend :D its all volume business sir...
      #6 • 20 Sep '12 Like
    • DEVILISHANGEL The path of Exec programs should be very carefully treaded on by new IIMs. This requires a lot of industry connects and a lot of good first hand knowledge to suceed. The people who join these courses are not 21 year old kids after all. The target segment is very very different.
      #7 • 20 Sep '12 Like 2
    • Quantohelp @DEVILISHANGEL Partnering with three other foreign universities when IIMU itself is a year old institute, is by no means an easy task. These may not be among the sought after universities, yet I feel it is a commendable step by IIMU. The credit should go to the director (in my opinion), a man with great industry connections, who envisions a great and rewarding learning curve for the institute.
      #8 • 20 Sep '12 Like 1
    • maverickraj @Quantohelp I am not against opening up of such new courses by any of the colleges. But I wanted to raise a point that does IIMU have such resources. Forget about MBA applicants as there would be ample number be found. What about the good faculty members. Adding to it, to structure a course for executive mba, is not an easy job. It takes lot of experience of people involved in it to develop the course, companies expect. Last but not the least the placement cycle. It again a toughest job for the institute to place executive mba guys, as the expectations of both the student and the companies are very very high. In any college, the alumni base plays a big role in getting placed their institute's students.

      ~Cheers
      #9 • 20 Sep '12 Like 1
    • Quantohelp "Forget about MBA applicants as there would be ample number be found." Well this is the very reason for such mushrooming of such initiatives. We all know the demand-supply mismatch in this country. And yes, I do agree that an institute needs a good faculty base to pull off such an initiative and I presume that IIMU under the leadership of Prof. Janat Shah is equipped to take this challenge up. As far as placements are concerned, I think there are two elements to it. A huge alumni base and/or people with great industry contacts. ISB is a good example of a B-School excelling in placements without a huge alumni base. IIMU may not get anywhere close to ISB in placements but should manage average or decent placements. IIMs ABC were quite established when they kicked off their executive programmes. That is one model. Another model would be to start your programme at an average level and steer it constantly towards perfection. My take on placements for executive MBA - I do not think there should be placements for executive MBA.
      #10 • 20 Sep '12 Like 1
    • maverickraj Definitely, Prof Janat Shah is well equipped, a whole lot of experience behind him speaks for him. With context to ISB, yea it worked well for it. But as far I remember, ISB took most of the guys from the premiere institutes like IITs with work experience. Dont know how IIMU would take the call. But again you cannot say "IIMU may not get anywhere close to ISB in placements" as anything and everything is possible :) Anyways, fingers crossed for it!

      ~Cheers
      #11 • 21 Sep '12 Like 1
    • nickyswetha It is a batch of 15 people! There will be 3-4 who are coming through their company sponsorship. I doubt placing 12-13 people with ~30 months of prior work ex is that big a task.
      #12 • 21 Sep '12 Like 1
    • pradyothcjohn IIM U is doing a fantastic job by roping in 4 international universities. "The kind of foreign B-schools IIM U has tied up speaks volumes about the quality of the program and about IIM-U's own standing" ? Purdue university is ranked inside the top 100 in almost all global rankings,which is quite something when you consider that the sole Indian university in the top 200 is IIT B. But that is not the point . It is that students who join the course will get international exposure,both in terms of the faculty and in terms of the peer group;not to mention the international stint that's part of the course,and the opportunity to intern in any of 4 countries. Kudos to IIM U!

      the article itself is badly written; "exchange programmes are a done thing in schools these days"?? Not the kind of language you expect from pagalguy.Also, the author seems to hold IIMs other than ABC in contempt; The sole purpose of the "Questions that come to mind are" bit at the end seems to be to undermine IIM U.
      #13 • 22 Sep '12 Like 2
    • Quantohelp @maverickraj "IIMU may not get anywhere close to ISB in placements" Of course it was the pessimistic view from my side. It can only get better.
      @nickyswetha: Placing people is largely contingent upon the expectations of the students. I have a bigger setup, students with excellent profile and professional background, struggling with getting jobs on campus. Not that those students lacked any potential, just that the gap between the expectations of the students and the recruiters is alarmingly large. So here I reiterate, executive management education should do away from the practice of providing campus placements.
      #14 • 22 Sep '12 Like
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