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    Four ways in which IIM-A's IPRS placement reporting standard can be fixed
    by Shashank Venkat and Apurv Pandit in IIM Ahmedabad, placement reports, Placement Reporting Standard, IPRS on 13 September '12

    The Indian Placement Reporting Standards (IPRS), Indian Institute of Management (IIM) Ahmedabad's medication to cure the mucky world of b-school placement reportage is over a year old now and up for review at the end of this month. As many as 25 b-schools were supposed to have adopted it to report their placements in a clean and credible manner, but as of today, only five have.

    Even as an assortment of b-school placement committee representatives, journalists and auditors meet at IIM Ahmedabad on September 29 to weigh how IPRS has performed, here is a list of loopholes in the standard, that could be fixed and improvements that we think should be made.

    First, the loopholes.

    1. Neither the IPRS nor the audit process stops b-schools from hiding inconvenient information. For example, the lowest salary at a b-school might have been Rs 5 lakh, but it can simply choose to hide it from the auditors and instead report a higher figure as the lowest salary. Similarly, if a b-school wishes to show itself off as strong at finance jobs, it can selectively report fewer marketing and IT jobs in order to jack up the percentage of students with finance jobs in the graduating batch.

    Saral Mukherjee, the IIM-A professor spearheading the IPRS agreed that b-schools could get away with reporting data selectively. In a telephonic conversation with PaGaLGuY, he said, "One way of ensuring that it does not happen is by checking the sector-wise classification. If there are very few data points for one sector, you can spot the area where the trouble is brewing from. To be fair to b-schools, some recruiters are still apprehensive about sharing data. We are still talking to companies to come on board. These are early days for the IPRS and the benefit of doubt needs to be given to the b-schools. We are trying to achieve as much transparency as possible and b-schools should be supported in this endeavour."

    Each of the five b-schools that have reported their placements under the IPRS have had the reports audited by CRISIL. CRISIL's senior director of SME ratings, Sachin Nigam told PaGaLGuY, "As on date, IPRS guidelines do not mandate the minimum number of disclosures required for the audit. The auditor's role is to ensure that there is accuracy and transparency in the data made available to it by the institute. However, as per the IPRS guidelines, each salary head in the audited report is clearly accompanied by the number of data points for which auditable data with proof was made available to the auditor. The ‘deviation from the standards' section is a measure of enhanced transparency to clearly highlight the deviations that have taken place with the reason for the same. However, greater number of disclosures by the institute is always welcome as it enhances the credibility of the audit."

    2. Nothing in the IPRS stops b-schools from showing unplaced students as having opted-out. The IPRS mandates b-schools to account for the placement status of each of the students in the graduating batch. One category, ‘Students not seeking placements for other reasons' can be conveniently used to hive-off unplaced students. Garnering signed opt-out letters from unplaced students using various persuasion and threat tactics isn't something that is unheard of at b-schools. Since auditors rely on written communication from students to establish opt-outs, they too will not suspect anything amiss.

    Apart from plugging these loopholes, the IPRS could also do with a huge design and content makeover that is more user-friendly for MBA applicants and for others reading it.

    1. The IPRS placement report format and design places honesty and transparency above easy consumability of information. Each of the IPRS reports released until now are scans of a wad of paper containing a large amount of data in tables. While there is immense scope for combining various data points to mine interesting insights about that year's job market from the tables, we are not sure if MBA applicants, the biggest consumers of the reports, are making or can be expected to make anything out of the coldly presented data for reaching admissions-related decisions.

    We suggest that the IPRS placement reports incorporate a fresh user-friendly design abundant with graphical interpretations that is easy on the eyes for two reasons. First, MBA applicants will be able to easily interpret it and, thereby, learn meaningful information about a b-school's placements. Second, all b-schools following this same format will make easy comparisons possible. The data tables can continue to exist in the appendices of the report for the use of journalists and industry-watchers.

    2. Applicants should be informed about the nature of jobs being offered at a b-school. In its current format, an IPRS report lays out separately the industry sectors and roles offered at a b-school. But it leaves out two important details. First, it does not report the names of the organisations that recruited from a campus. Second, it does not inform what roles were offered by these companies.

    These are vital pieces of information for MBA applicants with prior work experience --- a steadily increasing creed at top b-schools --- who would like to learn what profiles were offered by a certain company in order to know if that b-school will help them make their desired career switch. For example, did a consultancy company hire consultants or analysts? Did that IT company hire for IT roles or for business roles?

    During the last IPRS conference in June 2011, it was agreed that these details will not be incorporated into the IPRS report but instead be left to every b-school's individual discretion. However, this has not helped. Except for IIM Ahmedabad's placement report which contains a page that briefly describes the companies and roles, neither SP Jain Institute of Management and Research, Mumbai, nor Symbiosis Center for Management and Human Resource Development, Pune, --- both of which feature among the top 30 of PaGaLGuY's B-school Rankings --- say anything in their IPRS placement reports about the companies and roles offered.

    We hope that such and other sound recommendations that the readers add to the comments below will be considered at the IPRS conference on September 29.

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    • ashishpai2001 This is good.

      CAT DI section should include the IPRS tables, maybe then we'll feel like trying to interpret what they mean. Completely agree with pt no.3
      #1 • 13 Sep '12 Like 13
    • nickyswetha There is a problem with the second suggestion of giving information about companies and the roles they offered. Companies go to different campuses and give different roles. A role at IIM A maybe at a different level than a role at IIM-I or FMS. The companies would not want this information out in public.

      Also, each company would hire on an average 2-3 people from one campus. This kind of information disclosure would effectively disclose names of students who were offered these positions. Again, this is not desirable.
      #2 • 13 Sep '12 Like
    • Apurv @nickyswetha - Most top b-schools whose placements we have reported have given us details of a substantial number of top company-profiles and we have published them too. So is it impossible? No. Will companies agree? Yes, since they clearly haven't objected yet. I don't see how this automatically leads to disclosing of names of students.
      #3 • 13 Sep '12 Like 5
    • nickyswetha @Apurv Top company profiles is understandable. But, in a B-School with 300+ people , there would be ~50 going in dream roles (even if you consider IIMA). There would however by 150+ going for mediocre (and sometimes much less) roles.
      If a mediocre company hired 1-2 people including me from an institute, and a clear table in the placement report mentions the role offered by it to the world. I will literally have to hide all information of me being placed or starting work in this company from all social media like Facebook and LinkedIn.
      If I am one of those people who got placed at a mediocre role in a mediocre company - I wouldn't want the world to know.
      #4 • 13 Sep '12 Like 2
    • Apurv @nickyswetha - I understand your point. In that case, I think such information should at least be available for the big companies, whose presence at a campus draws people to join a b-school. For eg, someone might decide to join b-school X over Y because at X PwC offers a better role than at Y. But this information may not be important about smaller/lesser companies that offer less 'glamorous' (for lack of a better word) roles.
      #5 • 13 Sep '12 Like 6
    • gaurav23march @nickyswetha But Hiding this fact (150+ going for mediocre roles) in IIM xyz is also not the solution.People should aware these facts also while choosing college.
      #6 • 13 Sep '12 Like
    • DEVILISHANGEL @nickyswetha: I am sure you wouldn't want to know but the incoming batch which decides its future on the information does. So given the stakes here all information has to be out.
      #7 • 14 Sep '12 Like 1
    • shrinivassg @DEVILISHANGEL, @Apurv I am not sure if any B-school would be ready to disclose the names/roles being offered by exclusive recruiters at their B-school, for obvious reasons. While the call for greater information is always good, it needs to be kept in mind, that the same question about selective hiding of information can come to the fore even at that point, if some data is not provided about the companies.
      #8 • 14 Sep '12 Like 1
    • nickyswetha @DEVILISHANGEL I think an institute has a higher responsibility towards its existing students than its future students (Personal belief - does not reflect what my insti might think). In any IIM, the last student to be placed will be placed in a better role than a student from a tier-2/3 institute in the country. BUT! Here, the 1st person to be placed would have got a record-breaking package which would be advertised on 1st pages of newspapers. At such a juncture, the last student would feel extremely embarrassed to be disclose his profile to his friends and relatives - if an institute discloses this information, then it is a literal invasion of privacy.

      Institutes are very rarely interested in showcasing their placements to the world. Directors of most IIMs (mine included) consider the institute as an academic institution, not a placement agency. It is only the existing students who wish to publicize numbers so that their rankings are improved. No student body will publicize the misfortune of their own friends/batch-mates.
      #9 • 14 Sep '12 Like 5
    • Apurv In @nickyswetha 's comment, "In any IIM, the last student to be placed will be placed in a better role than a student from a tier-2/3 institute in the country."

      Is this really true? I think at least the top 25% in any tier-2 institute would manage better than the last guy in an IIM, esp with batch sizes crossing 350.
      #10 • 14 Sep '12 Like 9
    • kunalmdi I guess the old and major problem still exist today : ' we aren't ready to go to clg to learn but to earn ' .Frankly speaking my institute has prepared me well enough that i can compete even without the name of my college anywhere . It isnt a belief , i have tested and found success in europe as well where no1 knws abt IIM , IIT or even ISB for that matter. There isn't a single company who would look at ur face and recruit you as such. I always see people fighting over placements and X clg to be better than Y . Did we ever realise that why is placement of 1 clg better than the other or why recruiters go to a certain clg? the recruiters aren't stupid either, they know brand names do exist,but do u srsly think that a recruiter gives 100% attention to the clg name ,specially when they themselves have studied in those clgs ? There is something abt the learning levels in clgs which have attracted recruiters rather than just the placement numbers. Placement reports are only followed by people who are abt to joing clgs so that they can attract the people who aspire for higher studies. The time when we people start developing thinking about academic learning is the time we will never fight over issues like placements .
      #11 • 14 Sep '12 Like 2
    • DEVILISHANGEL @nickyswetha: According to your own stats, holding the rule of the larger good true, it would serve everyone if all information is mandatorily released. And ofcourse if directors of most institutes, including mine, want it to be a shrine of education and not placements then all of them should denounce placements as a part of college process and adapt to a more mature Career Advancement Cell which doesn't guarantee placements. Game anyone? Lets raise hand as likes and dislikes. Indian Students and Indian B-schools are only shrines because they place people. The day that stops this fool's paradise would come crashing. The name could IIM-Jhumritaliaya or Mufatlal institute of management.

      Also, the statement "In any IIM, the last student to be placed will be placed in a better role than a student from a tier-2/3 institute in the country. " is absolutely shocking and completely false, I could name people and numbers from IIM-A,B,C, XLRI and ISB debunking that immature comment but I won't because most students who have friends across all the top colleges know that that isn't true, infact the same can be derived from the few b-schools that have adapted IPRS. I could just give you my own example of that of my girlfriend and prove the case but that would be very immature. Please have data to prove such comments because this is misguided. and I say this as a passout. It is because of such statements that youngsters go in doe-eyed and then curse their alma-mater, The Gap between brand promise and brand delivery. It is also hypocrisy of the highest order if people disclose the highest figures but not the lowest ones.

      Also, Invasion of privacy is legally defined as "the intrusion into the personal life of another, without just cause, which can give the person whose privacy has been invaded a right to bring a lawsuit for damages against the person or entity that intruded. However, public personages are not protected in most situations, since they have placed themselves already within the public eye, and their activities (even personal and sometimes intimate) are considered newsworthy, i.e. of legitimate public interest." Ergo no placement detail can be termed as invasion of privacy.
      #12 • 15 Sep '12 Like 2
    • DEVILISHANGEL @Apurv: Perfectly put. Forget 350. The number is about 150. Also if possible do a survey among our own pagalguy alumni who have passedout and are working. How many are happy with their job decisions they took while in B-schools across various paramenters. You will see what I mean. What you want to do is a decision about what you want to be, its both a qualitative and quantitative answer to a very complex question. It needs mature thought process which most b-schoolers in India lack due to various reasons.
      #13 • 15 Sep '12 Like
    • DEVILISHANGEL @kunalmdi: what a brilliant comment :)
      So absolutely true, I just heard the first hand story my regional marketing head telling me his story of him going from the bottom sales guy to being CMO in big hugeEuropean company as he was accepting the offer. He used to sell credit card machines in the rain. He is 35. A bachelor and a pgpx. Brand names makes things easy, doesnt automate success :)
      #14 • 15 Sep '12 Like 2
    • DEVILISHANGEL Apurv:sorry for spamming but I needed to say one more thing - If students here had any idea about what they were doing they would NOT move from HR to Marketing to Finance to Operations to Whatsoever at will. If learning was the key, this kind of mad shift seen during admission time wouldn't be happenning. How can you be "Ranked" your way out of what you want to do in life? That too for such a short sighted reason?
      #15 • 15 Sep '12 Like 1
    • Apurv @DEVILISHANGEL - Hardly anyone at 22 knows what they want. Takes at least 2-3 years of working in a job to begin to have some clue. Can't blame the students entirely.
      #16 • 15 Sep '12 Like
    • SapanG_TGEM IPRS is a great initiative to put authenticity into the placement reports by the B-Schools. There are 100s of B-Schools in our country who are vying for a near stable MBA applicants pool each year. This format will give the applicants a transparent view of the all important comprehensive placement figures and help them to make an informed decision. Agreed that there are some flaws in the format but then I am sure they will soon be rectified and new suggestions will be appended. IPRS should be made a mandatory thing so as to get the information comparable on the same platform.

      Sapan Gandhi
      Business Leadership Program | 2012-13
      SCHOOL of INSPIRED LEADERSHIP (SOIL)
      #17 • 16 Sep '12 Like
    • apchau I would like to add here " **** who has dared to think beyond IIMs , have you dared to go for IPRS.. Would be a " Aaj kuchh tufani karte hai" DAY for ****!!
      #18 • 18 Sep '12 Like
    • saikatha I think, the eligibility criteria should change a little bit, minimum 2 years of work exp should be there. because after working for 15 month, I dont know what should be my specialization(I am Btech in IT), then how come, a fresh college pass out at age of 21 or 22 can choose finance or operations?
      #19 • 18 Sep '12 Like
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