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    B-school Shakeout: Uttar Pradesh MBA entrance test gets only 14,000 applicants for a total of 24,000 seats
    by Jayashree Maji in Vacant MBA seats, Uttar Pradesh, UPSEE on 21 April '12

    The Bara Imambara, Lucknow (Photo: Derek Keats)



    In what is a stark indication of the supply inflation of MBA seats in the country, this year's number of applicants to the state-level MBA entrance exam of Uttar Pradesh is just a little over half of the total number of MBA seats in the state.

    According to Gautam Budh Technical University (GBTU), which conducts the Uttar Pradesh State Entrance Examination (UPSEE) for MBA, only 14,000 exam forms have been sold this year against the 24,000 available management programme seats across 300 colleges affiliated to GBTU and Mahamaya Technical University (MTU). The test is scheduled to be held on April 21 and April 28, 2012.

    Total management seats in UP: 24,000


    Total number of applicants to UPSEE: 14,000




    This is not the first time that the number of applicants is less than the number of seats across b-schools in the state. I accept that there is a huge shortfall but this downtrend has been there for the past few years now. Last year also the numbers of UPSEE applicants were less than the seats available in the colleges. The gap has increased this year though, said the deputy co-ordinator of UPSEE, Prof Manish Gaur.

    However, he asserted that there had been a similar downtrend in the number of applicants to MBA in other states such as Andhra Pradesh and Maharshtra as well, and that this did not reflect on the condition of any one state or university. The infrastructure in the colleges of Uttar Pradesh is not good compared to other top ranking MBA colleges across the country. This is a major factor responsible for the decrease. Lack of good faculty is yet another factor. The entrance state is now mainly conducted to decide the merit of the students so that they can get admission into the few preferred colleges, explained Gaur.

    In fact, the Central Admission Board (CAB), a body of about 20 members constituted by the Government of Uttar Pradesh and headed by the vice chancellor of GBTU had organised a meeting on April 18, 2012 to discuss the reasons behind the continual decline in the applicant pool. The CAB is responsible for controlling and supervising the state entrance examination.

    The CAB was able to identify several problems related to the UPSEE itself. It identified that the counselling process which follows after the UPSEE result had become a very cumbersome activity for both applicants and their parents. Often, students were required to stay at these counselling centres till midnight. Moreover, the behaviour of the counselling staff was also observed as a big put-off for the candidates. In the end, the delay in the counselling process had been forcing the students to seek admission into other universities, explained a senior official at Mahamaya Technical University (MTU).

    Additionally, the UPSEE too hadn't been an entirely smooth operation this year. GBTU for the first time will hold the UPSEE as an online test for on April 21 and April 28, 2012. But several students who had paid for the test online have been unable to complete the transaction online due to technical snags. As a result, almost 1,500 students applying for various MBA, MCA and BTech exams did has not received their admit cards as on April 18. The examination authority had then asked these students to reach the nodal centres near their examination centres to collect the admit cards on April 19, April 20 and April 21. The official under the condition of anonymity said that even after the UPSEE exam, only 20 to 25% of the MBA seats were expected to be filled through the counselling route, and that a large number of seats across government-aided and private-unaided institutions will remain vacant this year.

    Several colleges affiliated to GBTU and MTU will face a major problem in filling their seats this time. This is a major national-level debate. In fact, the decision of the Supreme Court to cancel admissions through the management quota in technical colleges of Uttar Pradesh is under consideration for appeal again by the state government. Earlier, the management quota had been kept at 15% of the total seats with 5% reservation for NRI students. A decision regarding the management quota should come by June-end and before the UPSEE counselling starts, informed Gaur.

    However, Shakti Prakash, director of Greater Noida-based Skyline Institute of Management, a private b-school in Greater Noida sounded upbeat when he said, "Last year after the UPSEE counselling was over, the government allowed direct admission into MBA as a huge number of seats across colleges were vacant. This year too, I believe, the government would take a similar decision to bail us out."

    Last year, this b-school had a capacity of 180 seats but was able to fill only 120 seats even after the government permitted direct admissions into the course.

    Earlier, in January 2012, UPSEE authorities had decided to allow acceptance of the Common Management Admission Test (CMAT) scores for 20% of the MBA seats in all affiliated colleges for 2012, which might bring some relief to these colleges in the state.
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    • ranbeer19 It is good to see that students are becoming aware of bschools not able to place students and are tking into consideration ROI , private b schools need to improve on quality otherwise next year even less students will apply. In some low grade collgs even film actors come for their promotion among students and collg management prints it in newspapers for fake publicity. I want to say to such collg management people "WHAT DO U THINK STUDENTS ARE FOOLS WHO WILL TAKE ADMISSION IN UR COLLGS. BY SEEING FILM ACTRESSES???????? , GUYS WAKE UP"
      #1 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • skscsr The quality of b-schools is very bad in India, except top 100 out of 2500+ odd B-schools.
      #2 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • gurrjag clearly brings out the condition of some of the colleges in the states of UP,Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. They have only walls constructed in the name of Management Institutes. The finger again points out to our regulatory Auth AICTE on why the permission was given to some of these colleges in the first place and awhy arent some of these colleges allowed to close down if they have applied for closure. Some of these colleges are able to survive is because they are able to fill their seats by getting students from smaller parts of the states and who are not aware about the details of these colleges and are willing to just get an MBA degree. It is high-time to stand up and take stock of the situation before it even gets worse. Who to start with? The AICTE of-course. @ranbeer19 - I know about the Institute and the actress your talking about.. that again is cheap publicity and nothing else.
      #3 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • realitycheck Which are top mba colleger in uptu?..i think too few may be none
      #4 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • soumik.ganguly One of the solutions for such bschools that are not getting any admission from state sponsored entrance tests (that are rampant across the country) is to have a special consideration by HRD ministry and the Govt for all foreign collaborations happening in India. Similar to the investment opportunity option for international bschools, the Govt might want to revamp these schools (through investments from Public/Private) and then allow Joint-ventures from International schools into the infra of these schools only (under some gazette announcement/law). The Answer to our problems is not closing down of bschools and opening new ones, and its definitely not draconian rules by regulatory bodies. We ought to take the available conditions and see what can be done best (like taking them out of the UP/MAHA CETs and provide autonomy to these bschools, allowing only these set of schools to be open for all joint-ventures happening in India for International schools). With the kind of availability of land and other resources becoming scarce, some of these intitutions in such important locations can be turned around brilliantly for students to then apply through GMAT or CAT.
      #5 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • enggvivek I think AICTE should take the responsibility for this trend. They should understand the demand and supply balance and then approvals should be given to new colleges. I am not able to understand why these useless colleges are running for years. Morally they should be shut down by their administrators. Every year several thousands of seats remain vacant in engg and mba. The rising awareness among students' community about the credibility of these colleges is also one of the major factor and its a good sign. making money is the only motive of these colleges and the owners should take lesson from the trend and should stop making fool of students.
      #6 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • gurrjag @soumik.ganguly-If only Mr Kabil Sibbal was thinking on similar lines.
      #7 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • Gajendra2013 EVEN IF before ENTRANCE TESTS APPLICANTS WOULD BE MORE, afterwards MANY OF THE SEATS WOULD BE VACANT. THIS IS THE SCENARIO IN ALL STATES FOR MBA.
      #8 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • enggvivek one more factor that contribute to this kind of situation is these colleges promise for 100% placements or "placement assistance" but reality is that in India only top 100 b-schools (rather less) fulfill their promise. And this is also the fact that 99.99% of the students consider placement as the only factor while selecting a b-school. more than 90% of b-schools don't stand on this criteria I guess.
      #9 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • dragster these schools neither possess the infra.. nor the faculty.. placement is hardly 50%.. and that too at avg packages of 1-3lak.. (max profiles-> marketing+ insurance) why wud a studnt opt for these colleges when they aint offering any placemnts or evn learning & exposure!! unlike schooling..MBA is not sumthing that all people do just for the sake of geting a degre.. these extra colegez shud be closed down or else made up to the level of being called a B-SCHOOL
      #10 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • vb240388 24,000 seats in UP....how many are there in whole India.......
      #11 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • ankushiimk all fake mba colleges should be closed... becoz its all are worthless, all these type of colleges only can increase the number of unemployed MBA... i dont know why HRD minister not controling this type of fake colleges..
      #12 • 21 Apr '12 Like
    • rahulkumarjha Low grade B schools are also a necessity and we cant crudely ask HRD to close them. Not everybody can make it to the top B schools of our country for lack of IQ/money/parents support/awareness etc.
      #13 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • theaspirant2011 Lol!!!!
      #14 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • enggvivek @rahulkumarjha firstly dont take my comment otherwise & its not to hurt nebody's sentiments. the point which u have mentioned in support of these b-schools are not sufficient. how? I'll tell u. awareness - the person who is thinking of doing mba must be knowing about top 25-50 b-schools in India and how to get into these colleges. this is 200% guaranteed. and he/she also must be knowing about the quality of other b-schools through state entrance exams. parents support & money - if a person thinking of doing mba, he/she must be a graduate. till grad parents have supported but for pg they will not? if u say parents have not supported for even grads then its again not a problem for the candidate. he/she should proceed for mba also without parents support like graduation. as per as financial condition is concerned if a person got selected in a premier b-school he/she will easily get loan. i will not suggest doing mba from useless colleges for economically poor people because there also they will have to spend lakhs of rupees and they will hardly going to get a job of even Rs 5000 a month from these clg. they should invest the money to some other work to improve their family earning. IQ - I think if ur IQ is not enough to get into good mba clg then u should understand that u are not fit for mba. u will not survive in the market thereafter and it will be a total waste of ur money and time. I it may sound rude to someone thats why I have already apologised at the start of this comment but its true that a everyone cannt do every work. one should realize his/her strengths and potential, in which field he/she can excel, and then decide what to do. why to follow the trend blindly? decide ur goal on ur own then only one can be successful person.
      #15 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • ravihanda I remember reading something very similar about colleges in Rajasthan and the exam RMAT.
      #16 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • adreamcalledmba Aisa to honaaa hii thaaaaaaaaaaaaa..............colleges are mushrooming like hell with lac of credibility.
      #17 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • shovitkush i totally agree with vivek suman about parents support for an degree in mba from top b schools.thus its more essential for AICTE and ministry of HRD to think of poor people and ask top premier bschools to have seats reserved for people having income oless than 1 lacs anually.after all education is our fundamental right be it masters
      #18 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • rajiv1987 this was bound to happen.MBA colleges r moushrooming like hell in our country and most of them don't provide adequate facility to the students.these colg hardly provide any plcmnt,so why would any student join them.
      #19 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • rajiv1987 this was bound to happen. most of these B/C grade college don't provide adequate facility to the students.these colg hardly provide any plcmnt,so why would any student join them.
      #20 • 22 Apr '12 Like
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    • rahulkumarjha @Vivek suman : " I it may sound rude to someone thats why I have already apologised at the start of this comment but its true that a everyone cannt do every work. " Why would I find it rude ? I as not referring to my IQ ! It makes me wonder what your IQ is !! ;)
      #21 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • rahulkumarjha am*
      #22 • 22 Apr '12 Like
    • mohangupta Most colleges providing MBAs AND PGDMs lack the required quality. They ask 10 to 15 lacs tution fee and provide below average placements.
      #23 • 23 Apr '12 Like
    • Krishna.Sarma Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why the F*** doesn't this happen with IIM's??? especially IIMA???? ;-) =D
      #24 • 23 Apr '12 Like
    • Wynand I second Vivek's point on fitness. It is a generalist's degree that cannot be of much use without rigour and capacity to absorb, especially with the high fee involved. Why can't we have BCom and BBA courses in the same numbers? It would serve industry just as well. What job profile offered at these B Schools cannot be done by BComs and BBAs at lower fee hence higher ROI?
      #25 • 24 Apr '12 Like
    • ra10 now engineering is already beaten to face and same way mba is going to be . its just like flurry of things which happen n everyone follows.....it will be very very interesting what will happen when mba too will loose its charm like now days people are fed up with seeing engineers everywhere , same will happen when B grade or C grade mba 's will pass out n flood the market with their mba's . [ quality never goes out of fashion so , real engineers n mba s are / will b respected but among the masses [ read 70% ] which just turns their head the direction in which strong wind flows , will find themselves in a peculiar state because there wont be any other higher degree left to look upon [off course phd is there but till now no air is building for that ] . might be something new will come up or may the pheonix will fly ..
      #26 • 25 Apr '12 Like
    • starvoyager @ Wynand Spot on! I hope more people wake up to the statements you have indirectly made - you do not need an 'MBA' for every single job in the industry. During my summers (at a major bank), even the chap hired to photocopy and scan documents was an 'MBA'. What a waste of his own time and money!
      #27 • 25 Apr '12 Like
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