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ayush235
ayush garg @ayush235 1
guys i am general engineer male fresher.. cat-98.98 IIM RAIPUR vs IIM KASHIPUR vs MDI-HR..WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE?? I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT SPECIALIZATION??

guys i am general engineer male fresher..
cat-98.98
IIM RAIPUR vs IIM KASHIPUR vs MDI-HR..WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE?? I HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT SPECIALIZATION??

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  • Go for MDI :thumbsup:. 05 Jun.
  • i would suggest MDI, a more established one among the three. 05 Jun.
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pfft
jyoti prakash @pfft 280
Seniors here, do any of you have e-books of Dave Ulrich's major works in HRM? I could only get drafts, abridged versions, or ppts. And are there other indian authors writing exhaustively on HR&IR;, specifically in India, apart from K. Aswathappa? His book seems slightly dated. :smiley:
Seniors here, do any of you have e-books of Dave Ulrich's major works in HRM? I could only get drafts, abridged versions, or ppts. And are there other indian authors writing exhaustively on HR&IR;, specifically in India, apart from K. Aswathappa? His book seems slightly dated.

  • Buying Dave Ulrich's book is an investment, and will cont.... 22 May.
garfieldthecat
Mahim Mongia @garfieldthecat 1.8 k
Buying Dave Ulrich's book is an investment, and will continue to help you throughout your HR career- its better to buy a hard copy

Indian authors- well T.V. Rao, Udai Pareek have done pioneering work in Indian HR context
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shefalib
shefali bhatia @shefalib 2
Guys how is Great Lakes, Chennai for pursuing HR? Please reply
Guys how is Great Lakes, Chennai for pursuing HR? Please reply
  • Though comparison is not allowed, and a GLIM alumni would.... 22 May.
garfieldthecat
Mahim Mongia @garfieldthecat 1.8 k

Though comparison is not allowed, and a GLIM alumni would be able to answer this better, some thoughts.....

Very few people would usually take HR as a specialization in institutions where HR is not a core-focussed separate program

A lot of learning in MBA and in HR would depend on peer experiences as well so inspite of everything else being great having no or a small group of like minded, interested in HR professionals might be of concern

Just as an example, in 2010 when I had gone for a HR competition in Great Lakes, people specializing in HR were few (around 2-3 if I remember correctly)

ak291992
Ankur Khare @ak291992 4
Guys what is the difference between MBA in HR and MHRM in terms of career growth??
Guys what is the difference between MBA in HR and MHRM in terms of career growth??
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  • :smiley: ..the same difference as MBA and PGDM . Go by .... 02 May.
  • @Anchun sir throw some light on this. 01 May.
garfieldthecat
Mahim Mongia @garfieldthecat 1.8 k

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Anchun
Anvesh Chunduri @Anchun 4.3 k
..the same difference as MBA and PGDM . Go by the college especially when it comes to HR
aytrama
Amartya Banerjee @aytrama 103
Hi Seniors, I need advice on the HR perspectives w.r.t engineering background and having 42 months workex in IT. I have been selected into TISS (HRM-LR) course for 2014-2016 and have also converted NITIE and WL for SPJIMR (Information Mgmt) and IIFT D (hoping a convert on both once IIM K and IIM ...
Hi Seniors, I need advice on the HR perspectives w.r.t engineering background and having 42 months workex in IT. I have been selected into TISS (HRM-LR) course for 2014-2016 and have also converted NITIE and WL for SPJIMR (Information Mgmt) and IIFT D (hoping a convert on both once IIM K and IIM I results get declared). I am aware of the huge reputation of TISS in HRM, but when I discuss with my frnds in other b schools or who have passed out, they all opine that though HRM from TISS is great, its a different ball game for engineers having considerable work ex to study HR (for them , HR is pretty boring, no innovations, no tight schedules, rush etc etc). From the point of RoI, TISS is awesome w.r.t all my options. I am also in love with the TISS campus when I went there for my interview. Can anybody from the engineering background share his or her experience of life in HRM (not the prospects of HRM manager cause that had been dealt by Sumit who started this thread.) @Anchun
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  • @Anchun Thanks for your reply, yes it is true I have aske.... 01 May.
  • One thing I can see is that u must have spoken to ur frie.... 01 May.
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VijayRawat
Vijay Rawat @VijayRawat 2.7 k
No innovations in HR? Dude, I would say it is filled with it. New methods, innovative theories, unorthodox ways are the buzz words in HR now a days.
Anchun
Anvesh Chunduri @Anchun 4.3 k
any how there is no point in regretting later, so give a good thought and choose ur college because if u choose TISS, u would be identified & recognized in the job market for ur HR degree and it wont be that easy to shift to marketing etc
Anchun
Anvesh Chunduri @Anchun 4.3 k
First of all let me not create any illusions that HR is bestest course out there
The negative perceptions must people carry on HR is from the limited exposure they have to HR w.r.t their line HRs who takes care of proof submissions/settlements ( which in case of IT companies, all HRs may not even have a post grad degree leave alone specialization in HR) or from recruitment consultants/ head hunters while switching jobs ( who again may or may not have HR back ground) and the general perception HR dept carries as admin dept with all their policies and a cost centre rather than revenue generator
Also the subjects these guys study would be organizational behaviour etc which when studied in isolation appears nothing but faff
As for prospects of HR, I would recommend u to follow the career path of alumni from TISS/XL or some other reputed college...and also go through sites like iimjobs.com which will give u a good idea about job content at various stages in ur career. see if that excites u
coming to the point on whether HR is valued in orgn or not depends on value u bring to them. As a recruiter if u can understand ur business and get relevant candidate in shortest period of time, ur business leader will be more than happy ( infact they openly say, the biggest difficulty of their job is people management and generally supportive if u can help in this area - from personal exp)
aytrama
Amartya Banerjee @aytrama 103
@Anchun Thanks for your reply, yes it is true I have asked opinions from many people and have received varied answers about the best of HRM to worst. As you have correctly said, almost all of my friends who are in bschools or have passed bschools (all of them were having some experience in IT ranging from 12 months to 32 months) have a mild negative to negative attitude about HR, I can understand that they are prejudiced and biased about studying in marketing, ops and finance which according to them are treated with much respect in any company. HRM course as per their limited chances to study them (two subjects in 1st year) is pretty boring, they say how on earth an engg study HR. I understand that this is not entirely true, one must not come into conclusions so early.Since you are also an TISS alum, you will know about true prospects of HR more than most of my friends from whom I ask for bschool experience. I know that I have to make my own decision but would want to have experience from a senior alum like you. If you can share details and your experience about HRM in TISS, growth perspective in HR post TISS (I have interacted with the line HR of my IT company and I dont want to end up like them). How HR people are valued in a reputed organization, whether it is truly all about marketing, ops, finance in big fmcgs or bfsi or does the HR function gets their due in decision making (I find from tiss placement report that most students intern in fmcgs, manufacturing, IT and BFSI and finally get placed in one of them.)
Anchun
Anvesh Chunduri @Anchun 4.3 k
One thing I can see is that u must have spoken to ur friends in other institutes who would have taken 1 or 2 HR subjects as optionals as they are not that taxing and which is true for them...But when u decide to specialize in HR itself , life wont be that easy

any how let me know what exactly u want to know, and I would try to answer if I can....
aishwarya10
Aishwarya Banerjee @aishwarya10 17
Hi i need some advice. I have 52 months of IT experience. I have converted XIMB HR, got rejected at TISS. I am looking at a cost of 15 lakhs i am unable to gauge whether or not it is a good investment. XIMB has suddenly raised its fees considerably and hence i am in a soup. What kind of opportuni...
Hi i need some advice. I have 52 months of IT experience. I have converted XIMB HR, got rejected at TISS. I am looking at a cost of 15 lakhs i am unable to gauge whether or not it is a good investment. XIMB has suddenly raised its fees considerably and hence i am in a soup. What kind of opportunities should i be looking for with the kind of experience i have or is it a good idea to give it a miss
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  • @Shishank hi, i have heard the growth in hr industry is n.... 02 Jun.
  • @ena It depends on how you see it basically. Placements t.... 19 Jul.
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Ena1
Ena @Ena1
@Shishank hi, i have heard the growth in hr industry is not so good.. is that so? actually i am also planning to pursue mba in hr from imi.. is it a good college for hr?
Shishank
Shishank Dahiya @Shishank 422

@ena It depends on how you see it basically. Placements these days are tough in whatever field you choose. Expectations are high but the going is tough. Whatever you do, do it with full honesty you will sail through. HR from IMI is a good option.

mayankag
Mayank Agarwal @mayankag 33
Hello Everyone , I have 42 months of experience in IT sector(Infosys). My experience has been primarily in functional and technical testing for Siebel CRM(Retail Sector Clients). Also, small exposures to development in Siebel. I have converted PGDM marketing at IMT Ghaziabad and I have a waitli...

Hello Everyone ,

I have 42 months of experience in IT sector(Infosys). My experience has been primarily in functional and technical testing for Siebel CRM(Retail Sector Clients). Also, small exposures to development in Siebel.

I have converted PGDM marketing at IMT Ghaziabad and I have a waitlist in MDI, which as per trend seems, I will be getting MDI PGP-HRM.

After looking at the average package and placement scenarios at both the institutes, I would like to get some inputs on:

1. Which one should I go for ?

2. Profiles post MBA in HR from MDI at this experience.

3. Will my experience be a deterrent or an advantage ?

4. How are the growth prospects in HR.

5. Any suggestions.

Many Thanks

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  • (1) PG is not a place for institute comparison. so will r.... 30 Apr.
  • @Anchun Your take on this please. Or if you can tag some .... 30 Apr.
Anchun
Anvesh Chunduri @Anchun 4.3 k
(1) PG is not a place for institute comparison. so will refrain from commenting on this.Will send u a PM though
(2) 42 Months is not too much of an experience. You would be eligible for most laterals which works in ur favour
(3)It works either ways. Some companies specifically prefer freshers and others work ex companies. Look at the strength and profiles of lateral companies in the college u choose. Problem with work ex is generally faced during summers and not much in finals
(4) Check LinkedIn profiles of HR alumni from various colleges
(5) It depends on ur apetite. Giving one more attempt which gives u 50+ months exp puts u in risky proportion during placements for a 2 year MBA
its upto u at the end of the day...all the best
mayankag
Mayank Agarwal @mayankag 33
@Anchun Your take on this please. Or if you can tag some person from MDI HR, if he can help.
cvsueee
@cvsueee 9
Dilemma between operations and HR I have a work experience of 1.5 years at a tyre manufacturing company as an electrical engineer in maintenance department. My role - shift incharge - responsible for all shift breakdowns safety and other plant operations. almost 10 electricians report to me every...

Dilemma between operations and HR I have a work experience of 1.5 years at a tyre manufacturing company as an electrical engineer in maintenance department. My role - shift incharge - responsible for all shift breakdowns safety and other plant operations. almost 10 electricians report to me every shift. Does my profile suit HR or only operations? I am interested in HR @SCMHRD pune please give suggestions

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  • What are the prospects of an IR manager in terms of posit.... 13 Apr.
  • @cvsueee If at all Plant-HR would suit you. Since you hav.... 13 Apr.
Shishank
Shishank Dahiya @Shishank 422
@cvsueee Prospects are really good as you would be handling the workers in some big names in India. If you are really interested in the prospects of the welfare of the laborers in India then this profile would excite you. As you know quite often now companies are seeing labor unrest.
And well am not sure about the chances as such but as you move on you make your own chances. And IR is as good as corporate HR.
cvsueee
@cvsueee 9
What are the prospects of an IR manager in terms of position and renumeration? Do I have a similar chance to build a career leading to a HR- global head or country head as does a corporate-HR?
Shishank
Shishank Dahiya @Shishank 422
@cvsueee If at all Plant-HR would suit you. Since you have plant exposure a role in IR(Industrial Relations) would suit you if you are studying HR in SCMHRD. During the course you will be taught Labor Laws and all that would prepare you for a role in Industry as an IR Manager.
Sheetal1990
Sheena Hermit @Sheetal1990 2
Hi Puys, I'm in a dilemma whether to choose between MBA in *HR or Finance.* (I'm not considering the colleges that have taken me, for now, because I only want to know about the courses) Back ground: Engineering + 1.5 years of experience in IT, Female, good in debate and similar extra ...

Hi Puys,


I'm in a dilemma whether to choose between MBA in HR or Finance. (I'm not considering the colleges that have taken me, for now, because I only want to know about the courses)


Back ground: Engineering + 1.5 years of experience in IT, Female, good in debate and similar extra curricular activities, good in numbers.. 10 th - 89, 12 th- 89, grad -79.. , enjoy being with people, slightly judgemental.. assertive and have the guts to take up issues head-on (as thats how i get noticed), yet reserved and definitely not the chatty/partying kind. No finance connection as of now, but determined, ofcos!


I want to know how the jobs are and what will be good for me. People with experience or knowledge please help me out...


1. Are HR consulting/recruitment jobs mean head-hunters?

2. Do Finance guys have to goo up the seniors for promotions? (gen opinion and zero skills at that)

3. How are promotions in the HR line?

4. Are the financial roles highly energy consuming that you don't have time fr other things in life?

5. What are job prospects abroad after doing MBA in HR in India.

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  • Thanks @Anchun .. problem is that I have to make the deci.... 13 Apr.
  • Will try to answer some of the questions. Any how, u need.... 13 Apr.
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Anchun
Anvesh Chunduri @Anchun 4.3 k
@Sheetal1990 ..I would suggest you to leave the "Fit" part for interview panel to decide. Opportunities wise, take a look at linkedin Profiles of previous students both from Finance and HR and take a call
Shishank
Shishank Dahiya @Shishank 422
@datta123 In MBA-HR you are predestined to study HR only throughout, basics of Marketing, Finance, Operations et al. would be taught obviously. In MBA-Core you are free to choose your majors among Marketing, Finance, Operations et al in the second year. In MBA-HR you dont have this choice.
datta123
Arpan Datta @datta123 3.9 k
@Anchun can you give me any idea how different is MBA-HR to MBA-core??
Sheetal1990
Sheena Hermit @Sheetal1990 2
Thanks @Anchun .. problem is that I have to make the decision now as my options are like that... I'm more inclined towards HR but apprehensive about opportunities and whether i am a right fit... Thanks a lot.
Anchun
Anvesh Chunduri @Anchun 4.3 k
Will try to answer some of the questions. Any how, u need not choose courses before joining the college, most colleges have gen mgt degrees and its upto u to take up the courses which interest you ( ofcourse.for colleges like XL (PMIR), TISS, SPJain (Finance) u need to make decisions upfront)
(1) Nope .....unless u go for recruitment consultant...and most of fresh HR passouts never go this line...

(2) No idea... U would learn about "Power & Politics" at work place in case if are u joining HR course....any how , office politics are common place which ever stream u choose
(3) in 15-16 years , you can expect to be leading the HR function at global level . It might take more or less depending on ur capabilities
(4) No idea..
(5) You can move to HR roles of Indian companies with operations abroad or shift completely. Check out for profiles on LinkedIn and job opportunities on IImjobs.com for better understanding

deepshikha75
Darshita Deka @deepshikha75 24
How good are the packages offered to freshers in HR specialization at SCMHRD??? what are the scopes of placements in HR?? please explain.... @Dubsjain @uddalak @Anchun
How good are the packages offered to freshers in HR specialization at SCMHRD??? what are the scopes of placements in HR?? please explain.... @Dubsjain @uddalak @Anchun
  • I feel that off late the discussions on this thread are v.... 12 Apr.
Anchun
Anvesh Chunduri @Anchun 4.3 k
I feel that off late the discussions on this thread are very much revolving around college comparisons and placement details. No doubt they are very imp for making the decision, but this thread is not the right platform. Seniors from SCMHRD will be in a better position to answer ur question.....all the best
ak291992
Ankur Khare @ak291992 4
Guyz can anybody throw some light on career prospects after an MHRM course??
Guyz can anybody throw some light on career prospects after an MHRM course??
mani0412
Mannat Narula @mani0412 4
i've been selected in mba HR of nmims mumbai. is it worth gng? how r d placements and packages? also my waitlist no. in imt g pgdm is 9..so m definite to convert it in d next list..dre i wud prefer marketing..which is a better option?

i've been selected in mba HR of nmims mumbai. is it worth gng? how r d placements and packages? also my waitlist no. in imt g pgdm is 9..so m definite to convert it in d next list..dre i wud prefer marketing..which is a better option?

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debadey
debapriya dey @debadey 9
Need Advice, I am currently working as a PMO analyst in TCS and have an exp of 3.5 years.As I don't have an MBA,I am not responsible for lot of decision making.Due to this I am planning to do an MBA and I am interested for MBA in HR.Will that help in project management?are HRs required in P...
Need Advice,

I am currently working as a PMO analyst in TCS and have an exp of 3.5 years.As I don't have an MBA,I am not responsible for lot of decision making.Due to this I am planning to do an MBA and I am interested for MBA in HR.Will that help in project management?are HRs required in PMO...what kind of role that would be.?Would really appreciate your help.
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  • I think project management is different it is more with M.... 26 Mar.
  • i hv seen in our account MBA grad wrkin as PMO lead ...bu.... 26 Mar.
uddalak
deep blue @uddalak 300
I think project management is different it is more with MBA in IT than it has anything to do with HR. HR does not deal with software project management .
dvchinmaya
C D V @dvchinmaya 385
i hv seen in our account MBA grad wrkin as PMO lead ...but MBA in HR mainly focuses on core HR functionalities like talent mgmt,employee engament,recruitement,performance mgmt,compensation n benefits etc......i guess if u continue in d same role by experince u ll get involved in decision making
karthik1992
karthik karan @karthik1992 22
@garfieldthecat @uddalak I have calls from IIM Ranchi PGDHRM ,MHRM IIT KGP, KJ Somaiya.....which one I should chose if I convert all of these...Your views are very much appreciated and expected...
@garfieldthecat @uddalak I have calls from IIM Ranchi PGDHRM ,MHRM IIT KGP, KJ Somaiya.....which one I should chose if I convert all of these...Your views are very much appreciated and expected...

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  • don't cross the bridge until you come to it! :smiley: .... 14 Mar.
  • IT will depend on your choice of specialization if u have.... 14 Mar.
jobhunter
maddy singh @jobhunter 145
XLRI-HR is good than any other institute can offer , beside go for that institute which can offer full guarantee placement , if not DU-HR is also good , XISS ranchi is also good known only for HR ,if price doesnt matter SCMHRD-PUNE is also good choice , but where I suggest to go for that institute which have good return:price value , low investment but good return .
I had been there in MHRM , its OK but not that good . The fees chargeable is only for the brand name of IIT , other than that the education quality is superb , the professors are highly educated all PHDs but lack of any industrial experience , well the most discouraging part is placement cell , every students had to run for their own placement , be it incampus or offcampus , call the company through your personal contact , if lucky you get selected or else someone does , the hospitality towards company during campus selection are not good so they run away once they are are ignored.So ultimately like all other department its MHRM also doesnt get full 100% placement. Well the knowledge what you will get from there are incomparable to any other HR institute other than offcourse XLRI is the best in HR
garfieldthecat
Mahim Mongia @garfieldthecat 1.8 k

don't cross the bridge until you come to it!

All 3 mentioned by you would have their own merits, consider some of the following factors and make a decision- NOT in any order

1. Peer Group- for me this is the most important factor- your most learning is going to come from discussions and teamwork with bright individuals from diverse background... As an example, a large no. of people from engineering might lead to a group think tendency rather than when it is a balance of commerce, arts, science, engineering, life sciences, law etc. etc. fields

2. Brand Value- this is going to be on your CV for many years to come, even when you would be switching jobs in your career down the line..brand value of college for HR as well as generally

3. Alumni Base- HR and otherwise - known in the industry, at senior positions

4. Placements- not just figures but variety of roles, level etc....whatever we might say, return on your investment is always a hard fact we focus upon...

5. Curriculum & Faculty- relevance to industry, pedagogy, something like a field study/project based approach adds more value to your learning....faculty with industry exposure provides better insights on subjects like HR...which could otherwise remain just theoretical!

6. Activities/Clubs- Again, a lot of learning will come from extracurricular activities- not a major factor but still worth looking at though all colleges have something or the other happening...also if you are interested in research, if the college focuses on it

7. Location/Facilities -though not a deal breaker but some regions have more companies; hence better chances of industry interaction...besides, you are going to spend one of the most important phase of your life during MBA...facilities like hostel etc. etc. might be a very minor factor all other things being equal

(on a lighter note, as one of my friend used to quote- he chose the college because of nothing else but for the location....it was like staying on a beautiful hill top resort for 2 years for a fraction of the cost :p)

uddalak
deep blue @uddalak 300
IT will depend on your choice of specialization if u have one . Please go through the fees structure of each of them and their last years placement record and then decide. But on a personal note i would say at this stage one should wait for the results before rushing on to do things .
jitendragupta
Jitendra Gupta @jitendragupta 3
I am having IT experience of 30 months in TCS in SAP. I am on sabbatical from TCS. I have engineering background and currently in MBA Ist year. My dream is to join a good Public sector company such as NTPC, ONGC. Currently I am in dilemma regarding my specialization whether to take HR as major or...

I am having IT experience of 30 months in TCS in SAP. I am on sabbatical from TCS. I have engineering background and currently in MBA Ist year. My dream is to join a good Public sector company such as NTPC, ONGC. Currently I am in dilemma regarding my specialization whether to take HR as major or should I go for Operations and Information management which is available at my university.

Waiting eagerly for reply from seniors

TIA,

Jitendra

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  • Well @jitendragupta the opportunities to work in PSU s th.... 13 Mar.
  • Hi..Am also fellow TCSesr ....HR vacancies r less in PSUs.... 13 Mar.
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jitendragupta
Jitendra Gupta @jitendragupta 3
yes you are correct abt this. but finance too is preferred for CA and commerce background people..
jobhunter
maddy singh @jobhunter 145
In PSUs HR,Finance,Marketing is the only demandable , beleive me not then take any Previous year PSU advertisement you will always see these 3 specialistation in the list , other branches are not offered by any PSU
Shishank
Shishank Dahiya @Shishank 422
@jitendragupta If at all, do HR from a top college otherwise it is a big risk if you do it from a Tier 2 or 3 college.
uddalak
deep blue @uddalak 300
Well @jitendragupta the opportunities to work in PSU s through oncampus jobs depends n college in which u are in.for most top ranking hr colleges like XLRI or TISS the psu s are at the bottom of the demand list of students because of low salaries compared to private companies .Hence even the last few people get into PSU easily.
dvchinmaya
C D V @dvchinmaya 385
Hi..Am also fellow TCSesr ....HR vacancies r less in PSUs but also with competition throught out the country....Age limit is also ther...if u r interested in HR den only take HR...

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