MBA from Harvard

MBA GMAT
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Hi Ill let you in a lil secret. I had dropped the plan of doin an Indian MBA a month after I joined accenture… Me and my roomie (who is now posted in HYD) gave serious thought to colleges like Harvard and the likes. Planning to take up GMAT…

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Hi

Ill let you in a lil secret. I had dropped the plan of doin an Indian MBA a month after I joined accenture.. Me and my roomie (who is now posted in HYD) gave serious thought to colleges like Harvard and the likes. Planning to take up GMAT after a couple of years exp..

Received this mail form him today..



Hi mansoor,
how r u? how is your work going? I am into the BNSF mainframe poject. By the way BNSF is the clients name. The greatness of this project is that u never get a chance to go onsite(being sarcastic). What about you? how is your GMAT prep going, and your harvard university goal? I was talking to a friend of mine who completed his MBA from IISc Bangalore who was saying that getting into harvard may not be that easy but even if u get in then also there some of his friends who ended up not having jobs after they finished their MBA from harvard. So they kind of get stuck coz they have a huge loan amount to repay.
Problem is that even after MBA in harvard or some such B-school usually only locals ie. americans get the top jobs and it is hard for non locals to get a job. this was what he was saying. So what is your call on that?
Take care.
Bye

Regards,

Before i reply to to this mail, thought of taking PG juntas take on this too.

So guys what do u have to say...

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Mansoor!!!!!!!

harvard and no job!!!!!

impossible

piyush

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Hey there mansoor,
yeps,my long term goal (i.e., sometime before i turn 35) i shud try and get into harvard....not princeton or wharton but just harvard (dunno why,but im kinda attached to the tag HBS ) . The point which ur friend made is sadly too true. Thats the reason im gonna take my time to do that, first get settled and then go ahead with the plan only when im financially sound. It'll be ridiculous to blow up my folk's life long earnings,cos its still a risky proposition if ur doing it by taking a loan.
Regards,
Garuda

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Hey there mansoor,
It'll be ridiculous to blow up my folk's life long earnings,cos its still a risky proposition if ur doing it by taking a loan.
Regards,
Garuda

Hi Sanjeev..
Hey buddy any ideas about the amount of money spend on education in HBS??

Regards
Manish
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harvard and no job!!!!!

impossible



Very much possible!In the US you have to go behind the jobs unlike the IIMs where the jobs come to you.A guy from Harvard would expect atleast $100k per year.However in a stagnant economy $100k jobs are not very easy to come by.Hence a rather high percentage (20-30%) of the graduates from Harvard,Wharton,Kellogg,Stanford and the like are rumoured to be presently jobless.The Americans with their Ivy league networking wouldn't have a problem finding plum jobs.My guess is most of these 20-30% guys are Asians
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One thing I would like to say here. If you get into Harvard, you will need to ensure that you have the ability to get yourself placed. Harvard or Otherwise.

What I said above won't make much sense, but give it some time and it will fall in line with your thoughts.

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& looking at the thread topic, I was thrilled to think that some PGite got into harvard

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& looking at the thread topic, I was thrilled to think that some PGite got into harvard

And I was betting on ya to do the honours.. or is it Arbo ? 😉
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This thread should be locked because of excessively sarcastic remarks by Mods :-|

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capreal26| Says
This thread should be locked because of excessively sarcastic remarks by Mods :-

Sarcastic ???? :shock: :shock: :shock: :oops: :oops:
doob mar saale.. I was really hopin that ya get into some goodie goodie amricun b-school 😁
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yeah & that 'SOME' goodie goodie B school is HBS.. kewl .. good going..

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I start a serious thread and look where is it going...

Guys plz.. if u have something relevent to add to the topic plz do . No point !#$$%in up this thread.

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capreal26 Says
yeah & that 'SOME' goodie goodie B school is HBS.. kewl .. good going..

Yeppers.. SOME = HBS, Wharton, Kellogg! .. ok ok.. add Stan too 😉
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Hey Mansoor..... sorry for trivialising the thread.. the kids around provoked me to have fun ..

coming to the original topic, I think the email or whatever the source of info you hv posted is a little out of context...

Nobody denies that only 60-70% of Ivy League students got jobs during the downturn but that doesnt mean HSW aint worth going.
For the people who spend upwards of 100K USD & leave a decent job/career, getting placed is not only dependent on the college itself.

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Hey Mansoor,
Some more info...last month when i was travelling from b'lore to madras after my K interview,i met this real cool dude. This guy had got into Wharton,Dartmouth and Harvard,but cudnt go to any of them cos of some problems at home. So he was telling me the parameters that go into selecting students- GMAT ofcourse, ur acads ofcourse, something more important than acads is - how good u are in fields which is not ur core area (hope u got what i meant) and then also this interesting titbit, they search for ur name on google n see the links they get
i dunno wether he was kidding here or not,but that had caught my attention. And after u get admission and u refuse, these guys keep offering the admission every year! Is that cool or what?!

And for the info u asked- 61K USD ( * 4 i think)

You can get more info at

www.hbs.edu
http://www.hbs.edu/mba/apply/financialaid/costsummary.html

Hope that helps, All the best,
Regards,
Garuda

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Mansoor!!!!!!!

harvard and no job!!!!!

impossible

piyush


My cousin who has stayed in the US all his life, and is currently pursuing his MBA from UTA, had recently come down to Mumbai. He told me that for Asians (non-whites basically), getting jobs after an MBA is getting tougher by the day in the US. And this goes for Indians who are American citizens. For those Indians who plan to get a job there after their MBA on a H1B visa, it will be even tougher, cos many American companies are now reluctant to pay the additional fees required to sponsor a candidate for an H1B. Additionally they need to prove that they are unable to find an equally qualified American candidate for the job.

So it comes as a no surprise to me that harvard grads are not finding jobs.

cheers :drinking:

the freak
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Don't know if this is the right thread to post this information in , but I know a guy : BTech from IIT(M) , MS from Stanford and MBA from Wharton ...... and guess what ... NO JOB !!!!!
Would prefer not to mention his name , but my point is that whatever be your qualification , you cannot assume that you are automatically going to get a great job . There are so many variables in the equation , that i is difficult so predict any thing . So please dont be under the assumption that HBS or Wharton degree equals automatic job . Because the guy I have reffered to above is not the only guy in that situation . I know of a lot more ppl in the same sh*t .

Nikhil

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Don't know if this is the right thread to post this information in , but I know a guy : BTech from IIT(M) , MS from Stanford and MBA from Wharton ...... and guess what ... NO JOB !!!!!
Would prefer not to mention his name , but my point is that whatever be your qualification , you cannot assume that you are automatically going to get a great job . There are so many variables in the equation , that i is difficult so predict any thing . So please dont be under the assumption that HBS or Wharton degree equals automatic job . Because the guy I have reffered to above is not the only guy in that situation . I know of a lot more ppl in the same sh*t .

Nikhil


It is not limited to asian students alone though...guess we shud be lookin at the overall perspective of job markets for MBA students......99% of HBS got palced in 3 months 3 years back and its only 89% las tyear.....and certainly this 10% variance is not due to ethnic students...all have been affected.....more interesting wud be a look into the data of unplaced students 5-6 months after grad ....im sure wud be negligible....thts cus unlike in india the students prefer to start career with an industry/cluster of their liking thn taking any job jus for the sake of getting placed....hence figures placed 3-6 months down the line takes paramount importance....
all said and done the onus is being equally shared by the placecom and students...i hear tht is the major shift in the paradigm of the whole palcement process tht has taken place over the years......."i gotta get them" rather thn "thyll come swooning for me"....students are working tht much harder, making tht muh larger network, seeing tht much more alums, having tht much more industry interacts....also moving away frm banking and consults to general manager profiles/marketing......these are changes in the process/paradigms....and i dont think its onyly the asian students who are facing minor hiccups !!...yes its an accepted fact tht thy find it tougher thn american counterparts (even ABCDs)....but hsnt it always been the case ??.....again only for being placed in US not in APAC branches of corresponding firms....
Just my .02 USD !!

Edited to add :- I asked almost the same Q to some of my frinds (not HBS though..LBS)..one of hem told me "heck its lot of money..the Q is not whether IT is worth it, the question is whether YOU are worth it !!"...profound ???
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errr garuda .. princeton doesnt have a mba program 😃