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Hi Here is my profile 10th Standard - 88% 12th Standard - 87% BCom ( Hons.) from St. Xavier's College ,Kolkata - 58 % CFA from AIMR CFP from FPSB India Associate of ICWAI And CPA ( US equivalent of CA ) Work Ex- Associate Research Analyst - Banking ( India Infoline ) - 1 ...
Hi
Here is my profile
10th Standard - 88%
12th Standard - 87%
BCom ( Hons.) from St. Xavier's College ,Kolkata - 58 %
CFA from AIMR
CFP from FPSB India
Associate of ICWAI
And CPA ( US equivalent of CA )
Work Ex-

Associate Research Analyst - Banking ( India Infoline ) - 1 year
Lead Analyst - NBFC ( Edelweiss ) - 3 years

Extra Curricular
Quizzing
Was ESPN School Quiz National Semi Finalist and East Zone Champ
Won many other corporate and sports quizzes

I fucked up my grad but have other qualifications

GMAT -710

My chances ?????
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> 1\. Is coaching necessary for GMAT? Cheers! Depends entirely on you. I did not take a GMAT coaching (I scored 710 with a 3 weeks prep) - one of my very good friends quit her job and stayed in Bangalore on rent for 3 months for her GMAT prep (she scored 720). > 2\. We c...

1. Is coaching necessary for GMAT?

Cheers!


Depends entirely on you. I did not take a GMAT coaching (I scored 710 with a 3 weeks prep) - one of my very good friends quit her job and stayed in Bangalore on rent for 3 months for her GMAT prep (she scored 720).


2. We converted from a Partnership to a Pvt. Ltd. in May 2010 after graduation. But we had officially launched in July 2009 as a partnership while in college. Any way around this to get the committee to accept this as added work ex?
Cheers!

Tricky. But you will have to take your chances.

You can say that you have been working for your company for 3 years without mentioning the overlap with your full time acads. You will also have to mention the time period during which you were a full time student, and hope they don't reconcile the two.

I don't think the workex would muddle thinigs up for you - it would be your acads. Most entrepreneurs at ISB, have an engineering background (usually IIT, or international). Many already have a Masters degree.

And - even for people with workex - its what you do with your years that counts.

AND - consider a 2 year MBA programme outside India. A 1 year programme is academically more intense, if you want a 'thorough academic grounding' a 2 year would make more sense. Also, you can pick up majors in marketing (specialise in marketing luxury products).

ALSO - what I have written above does not mean that you would not be able to crack ISB entrance if you prep well.


H.
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> Dude.. while ISB could help you achieve your objectives, why not look at schools that groom you for entrepreneurship? Babson or one of the other top Entrepreneurship programs might serve your purpose better. You're young enough that you don't need to worry about either spending 2 year...
Dude.. while ISB could help you achieve your objectives, why not look at schools that groom you for entrepreneurship?

Babson or one of the other top Entrepreneurship programs might serve your purpose better.

You're young enough that you don't need to worry about either spending 2 years or the additional money that might be required for some of these schools.

Unless, of course, you're using entrepreneurship as the differentiator to get into the program after which you'll try to get into the regular placement pool.

Hey,

True. I am definitely looking at the options.

Two things though. I have a view (not really a researched one) that I might be able to make it to ISB with the limited work ex but not the US ones. And not a big fan of Entrepreneurship specialization or something on the similar lines. Prefer a rigorous fin/strategy sort of acad. to get your skill set right and other things will fall in place eventually.

You currently studying?
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> The question is irrelevent at this stage. Tollgate 1 is an interview invitation - you will get a short term goal / long term goals question in the essays (you are most likely to get, that is). If you answer is 'you want to start something of your own' \- define it. The clearer you are in your p...
The question is irrelevent at this stage. Tollgate 1 is an interview invitation - you will get a short term goal / long term goals question in the essays (you are most likely to get, that is). If you answer is 'you want to start something of your own' - define it. The clearer you are in your post acad plan - the more mature you are likely to sound.

Figure out how does ISB help in the 'entrepreneurial aspirations' - i.e. which resources at ISB (if it is incubation cell, then why), and then how will you use these resources. Reach out to the admissions office and speak with the entrepreneurs club if needed. Again, the effort you put in will get recognised in the quality of your essays.


Correct on the GMAT part. Just one more thing - ISB or other B Schools would not look at your certificates individually, but will do so collectively.



You will have to use the numbers to get invited to the interview. No other way out. The numbers you need to mention in your essays are the Key Performance Indicators for your business - not the amount of money you made. E.g. "I grew Trippy from a start-up that was worth 7lac rupees raised with difficulty by solicitinig contribution from my family and friends to a profitable business worth more than 70lac rupees in less than 2 years" is acceptable; "I made 60 lac rupees in 2 years" is dumb.

Stop thinking of yourself as a rockstar - the worth of your venture, or the amount of money you made by divesting will not impress anyone. These will most certainly not subdue ISB. Also, you've achieved whatever you have managed to achieve just once - how does that stop people from billing you a flash in the pan.

The risk you carry is that you are likely to sound cocky and naive in your essays unless you are careful - all 21year old entrepreneurs do so. The risk you also carry is that you may appear like a 21year old kid who perhaps got lucky. Lucky 21 year olds are likely to be misfits in ISB.


You can use this in your 'why ISB' - you can say that once you started dealing with the reality of controlling a expaning profitable business you found that you lacked context, ISB with its diverse and experienced student body provides an opportunity to develop this context which you know you lack at present.
Think some more, I am sure there can be a better theme than what I have written above.

Agreed.


You are most welcome.

H.

P.S. - Opinions, prejudices, errors - all my own.

Hey H,

Seems like there is a lot more clarity on the way forward now.

Got an idea of how the entire process should ideally happen.

Last two questions :

1. Is coaching necessary for GMAT?

2. We converted from a Partnership to a Pvt. Ltd. in May 2010 after graduation. But we had officially launched in July 2009 as a partnership while in college. Any way around this to get the committee to accept this as added work ex?

Cheers!
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Hi Mr Menon, I have a few pertinent questions which I needed to ask. 1\. I am an engineer by background - however I had a pretty bad accident during my terms which affected my acads and health which had me undergo a 3 years break post engineering till I recovered to a significant extent. ...
Hi Mr Menon,

I have a few pertinent questions which I needed to ask.
1. I am an engineer by background - however I had a pretty bad accident during my terms which affected my acads and health which had me undergo a 3 years break post engineering till I recovered to a significant extent.

2. Thereafter, I went on to do my Masters in Management in the US, at a tier 1 university, and did well academically. I was also chosen as a student assistant in a couple of courses, chosen on the basis of academic performance, and also interned for six months at an Investment Bank. Thereafter, due to family issues ( a sibling expired), I returned to India, and took a job in a top IT MNC, in their ITES wing, which deals primarily with Industry Marketing and Market Research. I have been working in the organization for 4+ years now.

My Masters though Management, was primarily around technology, business operations and I really wish to do a MBA to round off skills which I feel are essential in my line of work, especially Marketing and Finance.

My questions: Would 1 (my prior academics & break) negatively affect my chances at admission to ISB, to the degree that I need not apply. Second, would it be offset by my academics during my Masters, as well as the experience that I have gained in my internship plus work in the current organization around various functional and analytical areas.

To be perfectly honest, I have invested a lot of time and energy in determining my academic needs in line with my career aspirations, my focus is on a one year program, and one which is top of the line and academically rigorous, and so far only ISB meets that criteria (At least in my perception) and hence I would be grateful for your reply.

Many thanks,
Akash
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Dude.. while ISB could help you achieve your objectives, why not look at schools that groom you for entrepreneurship? Babson or one of the other top Entrepreneurship programs might serve your purpose better. You're young enough that you don't need to worry about either spending 2 years ...
Dude.. while ISB could help you achieve your objectives, why not look at schools that groom you for entrepreneurship?

Babson or one of the other top Entrepreneurship programs might serve your purpose better.

You're young enough that you don't need to worry about either spending 2 years or the additional money that might be required for some of these schools.

Unless, of course, you're using entrepreneurship as the differentiator to get into the program after which you'll try to get into the regular placement pool.



And the help gets better.

Ok, I am going to ask you to switch to a role of a guy who say has to advice me on the best way to circumvent the obvious loopholes. If that's okay with you.

1. What after ISB? Well, the idea is to know enough to start another 'more professional - more scalable' venture. Have more than just an idea in my head, not so sure about whether to discuss that with the panel. What is your take on 'I would like to continue with my entrepreneurial aspirations after making the best use of resources at ISB, if selected, both academic and non-academic' as an answer to that question.

2. 10th & UG I presume is alright. Need to justify the 12th bit - guess will just have to put it plainly if called for an interview and concentrate on what is under my control, a good GMAT score.

3. Here is the tricky bit. I can talk about the numbers showcasing how our start-up grew making more tangible sense in the process as you rightly pointed out. The part I am worried about is the 'How much did you exit at'? Basically, I have seen a lot of people being shot down because what they currently do seems to be a better paying job than avg. ISB domestic ctc. Obvious answer would be I am not looking at placements so I don't care about it. But unsure about how it will be perceived.

Regarding the exit, I am going to state the facts. We had a fairly simple easily replicable business model, were short of resources and it made strategic sense to exit profitably and let the idea develop than maybe make a mess of it.

The essay is going to be a bitch. No two ways about it. Will have to find a way to squeeze all this.

Thanks again, in advance!
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@CA - check post #10358. I did answer your question earlier. H. > Hi I am taking the GMAT in July for ISB - can somebody please tell me what my chances are like? cheers
@CA - check post #10358. I did answer your question earlier.

H.

Hi

I am taking the GMAT in July for ISB - can somebody please tell me what my chances are like?

cheers
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hey mariner123, i'm taking a guess by ur username that u too are in Merchant navy... and i am hoping that u can help me with some good advice. I'm applying for the 2012 batch in 2nd round this year.... Could u please point out which particular aspects of our profession should we be highligh...
hey mariner123, i'm taking a guess by ur username that u too are in Merchant navy... and i am hoping that u can help me with some good advice. I'm applying for the 2012 batch in 2nd round this year....

Could u please point out which particular aspects of our profession should we be highlighting without fail.....

Also how do they go about calculating our work-ex, specially with the exams break that we have to take.

Also whom/how to take our LORs from as our CEs and 2nd Engrs dont have a permanent email id or official addresses.

Plus any other important point that u feel i should be particularly careful about..

Thanx a lot..
Cheers !!!

Hi Friends,

This has been a nice and entertaining experience. However, I have decided not to accept the ISB offer and pursue my career elsewhere. Goodluck to all the admits and to the ISB hardcore who gets an admit in my place.

Regards and best wishes.
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Hi.... I will be applying for ISB-2012 batch in the 2nd round this year... I could really use some informed advice/help on how to go about prepairing my application. I'm working in Merchant Navy (Engineer), have about 3-3.5 years of work experience. The catch is that the employment is contractu...
Hi.... I will be applying for ISB-2012 batch in the 2nd round this year... I could really use some informed advice/help on how to go about prepairing my application.
I'm working in Merchant Navy (Engineer), have about 3-3.5 years of work experience. The catch is that the employment is contractual basis and there are gaps in between for clearing the promotion exams. Though due to some personal reasons that i wont be comfortable in sharing even with the admission board i have been on a break for last 1.5 yrs. How is this going to affect my candidature and how to put it across in my application????

Really looking forward for your advice puys....
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Hi I am taking the GMAT in July for ISB - can somebody please tell me what my chances are like? cheers > HI PUYS I have 5 years of Media Workex in a purely Ad Sales / Revenue /Brand Solutions Profile - Here it is as follows : 8 months in DNA Newspaper 3 years in St...
Hi

I am taking the GMAT in July for ISB - can somebody please tell me what my chances are like?

cheers

HI PUYS

I have 5 years of Media Workex in a purely Ad Sales / Revenue /Brand Solutions Profile -
Here it is as follows :
8 months in DNA Newspaper
3 years in Star Network
1.5 Years in Viacom18 Networks -MTV

My role is to partner with clients & create brand solutions - long story short ....be on the look out for monetization opportunities .

Very Poor acads -
Decent Extra Curriculars
Managed 70% in Grad /BMS degree .

Applying for ISB R1 in Aug '11 .

What are my chances - go ahead you can be brutally honest.
Yes i Take the GMAT in June '11 . If its not going to be ISB -which are the other schools should i look @!

Cheers

CA
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> 1\. What after ISB? Well, the idea is to know enough to start another 'more professional - more scalable' venture. Have more than just an idea in my head, not so sure about whether to discuss that with the panel. What is your take on 'I would like to continue with my entrepreneurial aspirati...

1. What after ISB? Well, the idea is to know enough to start another 'more professional - more scalable' venture. Have more than just an idea in my head, not so sure about whether to discuss that with the panel. What is your take on 'I would like to continue with my entrepreneurial aspirations after making the best use of resources at ISB, if selected, both academic and non-academic' as an answer to that question.

The question is irrelevent at this stage. Tollgate 1 is an interview invitation - you will get a short term goal / long term goals question in the essays (you are most likely to get, that is). If you answer is 'you want to start something of your own' - define it. The clearer you are in your post acad plan - the more mature you are likely to sound.

Figure out how does ISB help in the 'entrepreneurial aspirations' - i.e. which resources at ISB (if it is incubation cell, then why), and then how will you use these resources. Reach out to the admissions office and speak with the entrepreneurs club if needed. Again, the effort you put in will get recognised in the quality of your essays.

And the help gets better.
2. 10th & UG I presume is alright. Need to justify the 12th bit - guess will just have to put it plainly if called for an interview and concentrate on what is under my control, a good GMAT score.

Correct on the GMAT part. Just one more thing - ISB or other B Schools would not look at your certificates individually, but will do so collectively.


3. Here is the tricky bit. I can talk about the numbers showcasing how our start-up grew making more tangible sense in the process as you rightly pointed out. The part I am worried about is the 'How much did you exit at'? Basically, I have seen a lot of people being shot down because what they currently do seems to be a better paying job than avg. ISB domestic ctc. Obvious answer would be I am not looking at placements so I don't care about it. But unsure about how it will be perceived.


You will have to use the numbers to get invited to the interview. No other way out. The numbers you need to mention in your essays are the Key Performance Indicators for your business - not the amount of money you made. E.g. "I grew Trippy from a start-up that was worth 7lac rupees raised with difficulty by solicitinig contribution from my family and friends to a profitable business worth more than 70lac rupees in less than 2 years" is acceptable; "I made 60 lac rupees in 2 years" is dumb.

Stop thinking of yourself as a rockstar - the worth of your venture, or the amount of money you made by divesting will not impress anyone. These will most certainly not subdue ISB. Also, you've achieved whatever you have managed to achieve just once - how does that stop people from billing you a flash in the pan.

The risk you carry is that you are likely to sound cocky and naive in your essays unless you are careful - all 21year old entrepreneurs do so. The risk you also carry is that you may appear like a 21year old kid who perhaps got lucky. Lucky 21 year olds are likely to be misfits in ISB.


Regarding the exit, I am going to state the facts. We had a fairly simple easily replicable business model, were short of resources and it made strategic sense to exit profitably and let the idea develop than maybe make a mess of it.

You can use this in your 'why ISB' - you can say that once you started dealing with the reality of controlling a expaning profitable business you found that you lacked context, ISB with its diverse and experienced student body provides an opportunity to develop this context which you know you lack at present.
Think some more, I am sure there can be a better theme than what I have written above.

The essay is going to be a bitch. No two ways about it. Will have to find a way to squeeze all this.

Agreed.


Thanks again, in advance!

You are most welcome.

H.

P.S. - Opinions, prejudices, errors - all my own.
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> @Varun - here goes the more elaborate post. Must caution you that I am likely to sound sarcastic and caustic - primarliy this is because I don't know you enough; second, because I have my own set of prejudices around non-conservative profiles (wildcards in the Indian mileu). You are as wi...
@Varun - here goes the more elaborate post.

Must caution you that I am likely to sound sarcastic and caustic - primarliy this is because I don't know you enough; second, because I have my own set of prejudices around non-conservative profiles (wildcards in the Indian mileu). You are as wild a card as any.

Lets talk ISB app strategy first - you will have to get invited to the interview to present your case effectively. Your invite will depend on your application, your CV and your answers to the essay questions. Check out the application page once it becomes active for Co2013 (late April), the essays had a 300w limit (for Co2012), the CV has to be a one / two pager, and there are specific pages where acads need to be mentioned.

When you write your application, where / how will you justify your low academic scores? You backpacked during your 12th and used your experience to start your venture sounds like a good theme - but how do you substantiate this in a set of 300 word essays. Remember you will have to use the same essays to outline your candidature as an ISB fit, to justify your decisions to become and entrepreneur, justify your decision to fold up, outline your post ISB goals and so on. ISB are pretty sharpish about the academic rigour. Perhaps, you will have to score a 700+ in GMAT, or even more - maybe 740+.

You have done a lot of EC work - but standalone EC would not cut much. It has to be academics plus EC. This is completely contrary to what you believe now, ask me questions if you have any.

When reading your application, would the admission office feel convinced enough to interview you? The ISB board is likely to recieve apps from entrepreneurs with ventures in different stages of gestation, or monetization and realisation - would you, as a candidate, be compelling enough?

Lets talk about 'compelling' - personally, I get impressed if I am presented conservative rationale to prove that you have 'grown' in your vocation/profession/job. Its easier to talk about growth for someone who has a salaried job - a promotion is growth, awards/recognition is an affirmation of growth (growth being an outcome of competitive processes leading to quantifiable or non-quantifiable gains). It is difficult for entrepreneurs to prove 'growth' - because you cannot compare and easily benchmark. This may becocme more difficult for you given that you have unplugged yourself in a short timeframe. The other challenge is that the ISB essays are just 300 words and it makes it very difficult to explain all that you need to, to present yourself well.

Would suggest that you focus on what your venture achieved - i.e. how many of the 650 concepts were you able to sell, how many partners were you able to get, how much money did you generate in the process, etc.

Repeating, Sukhoi Sortee, Auschwitz incarceration, Glenfiddicch pilgrimage -- sound great, but you thought your product out when you were a UG, 'growth' is what you did with the product. Focus not on your product but on the results.

ISB is also notorious for its quest for a good 'what after ISB' - in your answers I did not see a lot of content around it. Think you should action that.

Finally, all this tangential advise is being given for your interview invitation. Invitation is tollgate 1 - the actual interview is going to be tougher.


H.

P.S. Views, opinions, prejudices, errors - all my own.

Also, regarding the EC bit.

It is something I believe showcases a lot about my ability to perform in varied functions as a leader. Need advice on how to sort of highlight it a bit more because it seems like a good leverage against the acads.
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