Thanks everyone.

We have mailed IIFT but no reply from them. CNBC also does not seem much interested.The only breakthrough is that an article about IIFT is going to be published in forthcoming issue of jammag.Lets hope other media sources see it and it comes in the news.

There are some lessons learnt from this issue.Will post my learnings soon.But yes,the fight will go on.

The next issue is gonna be the advance fees taken by the B-Schools.Rashmi is gonna write an article on it and we will start a thread on PG where we can know about the grievances which happened last year and put them in limelight.


Rohit

Hey Rohit.Great job man.I am with you.I was one of those who suffered.I know of my friends who got almost 10 mins. extra.Take my details and feel free to call anytime.I reside in Delhi so let me know if anything needs to be done here.

Good news guys.Finally we are making a breakthrough.See this :

http://youthcurry.blogspot.com/

This is a blog by Rashmi Bansal,who is an IIMA alumnus and chief editor of jammag.com.

There is more going on.Will keep you updated.

people who have signed the petition or have faced irregularities in conduct of iift,I will request them to send me their contact number and centre location.And yes..names also
I need to give it to CNBC guys,they may do a story on this.

Rohit

Good goin guyz.... Keep us informed abt the status of the entire thing... What happened?? Have u sent them to CNBC???

Good news guys.Finally we are making a breakthrough.See this :

http://youthcurry.blogspot.com/

This is a blog by Rashmi Bansal,who is an IIMA alumnus and chief editor of jammag.com.

There is more going on.Will keep you updated.

people who have signed the petition or have faced irregularities in conduct of iift,I will request them to send me their contact number and centre location.And yes..names also
I need to give it to CNBC guys,they may do a story on this.

Rohit

ever since yu opened this thread i was the silent reader out here but today after i saw that yu have made a break through its now me who is going to appreciate all the good work done, it was courageous and really only one of its kind ,
thsi is anew initiative which will not only help people file petitions but also will make them knwo that there is a thread or a forum weherby they can make their says boldly,
i hereby appreciate the initiative and the attitude of yurs thats helped so many guys to gather courage and go about this thing in such a orderly manner ,
may the student community rise against all the shitty things that are takin place
bengal tiger,
rahine

Noble Intentions!!!!

Weve jus been waitin to get a start.... Werent we???

Guyz even though i din give the IIFT exams I hrd abt the entire fiasco.... So go ahead guyz.... Gud Luck.... High time they realised students r not to be taken for granted....

Cheerzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!

and buddy budhhamind,

if IIFT cant conduct exam smoothly stating tht its not thr job and thier job is to train managers...they can always go for CAT right?????

Totally agree with u ZS.

good show rohit!!

but sadly i think , this is only going to benefit ppl who are applying for iift next year. this yr i dont think they have the scale to organize a retest ala iims. and even if they do its going to be too late when most of the students wud have fed darkening bubbles.

also i am interested now this has come to their attention how are they going to select candidates? some were under the impression that there are sectional cutoffs while some took that risk to completely leave the RC part!

the recruiters wont be too happy either knowin that iift has developed a reputation for messin up their entrance test , the most important part of the entire selection procedure, so badly. so i guess either way its us students who are goin to lose!


i think insitututes such as these should be avoided by serious candidates!

Good news guys.Finally we are making a breakthrough.See this :

http://youthcurry.blogspot.com/

This is a blog by Rashmi Bansal,who is an IIMA alumnus and chief editor of jammag.com.

There is more going on.Will keep you updated.

people who have signed the petition or have faced irregularities in conduct of iift,I will request them to send me their contact number and centre location.And yes..names also
I need to give it to CNBC guys,they may do a story on this.

Rohit

Good news guys.Finally we are making a breakthrough.See this :

http://youthcurry.blogspot.com/

This is a blog by Rashmi Bansal,who is an IIMA alumnus and chief editor of jammag.com.

There is more going on.Will keep you updated.

people who have signed the petition or have faced irregularities in conduct of iift,I will request them to send me their contact number and centre location.And yes..names also
I need to give it to CNBC guys,they may do a story on this.

Rohit

yes,

tht makes sense...

will send a letter to TOI..or ll better call them...lets get it published atleast...

even if not exams reconducted...we will have follwoing two advantages for sure..

1. next yr, they ll be more careful..
2. they ll realise (IIFT) tht its not anythg they ll, ll b tolerated....

and buddy budhhamind,

if IIFT cant conduct exam smoothly stating tht its not thr job and thier job is to train managers...they can always go for CAT right?????

Good idea !! I am gonna send an email to TOI Pune and also give them the link of our online petition. That might prove the authenticity and seriousness of this thing.......wat say guys ??
I dont mind if the exam is not reconducted.....But i definitely want these people to realize thier mistakes and be careful next year onwards !!!

when you ppl do reach the media, there is the obvious danger that you will be taken as the badmaash student who didnt study for the test, performed badly and is now looking to plant a news to have a re-exam.

but since yours is a genuine case, the only way to get your point through to the media is to flood them with calls and visits. one person calling to a newapaper in a city creates suspicion of dubious play. 10-20 students calling up within a day increases chances of a news story. it tells the paper that is it a real public grievance.

yes,

tht makes sense...

will send a letter to TOI..or ll better call them...lets get it published atleast...

even if not exams reconducted...we will have follwoing two advantages for sure..

1. next yr, they ll be more careful..
2. they ll realise (IIFT) tht its not anythg they ll, ll b tolerated....

and buddy budhhamind,

if IIFT cant conduct exam smoothly stating tht its not thr job and thier job is to train managers...they can always go for CAT right?????

Thanks everybody for suggestions and standing together.
My plan for today :
1> Contact media and spread the news.Wait for their response.
2> I have got 55 signatures by now here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/IIFT2005/petition.html

when you ppl do reach the media, there is the obvious danger that you will be taken as the badmaash student who didnt study for the test, performed badly and is now looking to plant a news to have a re-exam.

but since yours is a genuine case, the only way to get your point through to the media is to flood them with calls and visits. one person calling to a newapaper in a city creates suspicion of dubious play. 10-20 students calling up within a day increases chances of a news story. it tells the paper that is it a real public grievance.

Signed it !!! Way to go Rohit.........We all r with u !!!!

Thanks everybody for suggestions and standing together.
My plan for today :
1> Contact media and spread the news.Wait for their response.
2> I have got 55 signatures by now here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/IIFT2005/petition.html

Going full blast today to get more signatures and then say hi to IIFT authorities tomorrow morning.
Expecting your co-operation and help in spreading the word.But yes,please take care that only those people who have taken IIFT exam should sign the petition.

Thanks and Enjoy,

Rohit

Well my dear friend, I would like to bring to your notice the fact that it's not really the instis that pay for all that organising..Its us the applicants who contribute towards covering the costs of that exam which is conducted and then dissappoints us..
As for the logistics bit of it:
Well there are a number of Training institutes (read classes) that conduct their simulated exams throughout the nation with essentially the same strength of candidates..if these people can do it smoothly, why can't the institutes.

I am of the opinion that the B-Schools that are looking at "selection" as a means to eliminate candidates should definitely invest some time in ensuring that the students too feel like "selecting" them...

Guys, really, we need to make noise abt this issue.. and Buddhamind, yes i understand that all you are doing is presenting another veiwpoint...but I think my two bits makes sense too.

Cheersh!

U do make sense Buddy. I am all for shouting my lungs out!And hey my POV is just the same on this as anybody else's if u read the post carefully.
All i am tryin to say is that if ur not gud at doing something u mite as well stick to ur core competencies and let experts do the job for u.

BuddhaMind
Food for thought

Having given the IIFT exam myself and seeing the way it was conducted...few questions come into my mind.
Reputed institutions like IIFT are reputed because of their core strength of spreading sound business acumen amongst budding managers.
However conducting a national level examination with the number of candidates well beyond the 1 lac mark..might not be as easy as it seems to the organizing party.
From The sheer logistics involved of distributing Q papers to communicating well defined instructions to member test center invigilators its a herculian task requiring expertise.
Has the time come where all important national level examinations be outsourced to a proffessional well known institution whose sole purpose would be to conduct them in a rightful ,systematic and adept manner.?
A common body to conduct various examinations would also ensure savings in terms of money and energy(that b schools usually spend every year) and a common knowledge sharing platform. What this cud also ensure is that because the effort involved isnt duplicated the overall cost of examination forms be brought down.

Well my dear friend, I would like to bring to your notice the fact that it's not really the instis that pay for all that organising..Its us the applicants who contribute towards covering the costs of that exam which is conducted and then dissappoints us..
As for the logistics bit of it:
Well there are a number of Training institutes (read classes) that conduct their simulated exams throughout the nation with essentially the same strength of candidates..if these people can do it smoothly, why can't the institutes.

I am of the opinion that the B-Schools that are looking at "selection" as a means to eliminate candidates should definitely invest some time in ensuring that the students too feel like "selecting" them...

Guys, really, we need to make noise abt this issue.. and Buddhamind, yes i understand that all you are doing is presenting another veiwpoint...but I think my two bits makes sense too.

Cheersh!

We can definitely go for a PIL. PG is a very strong forum and we as a group can definitely take on any institute..... even the IIMs.......

these things happen every year ... you will see the same thing with snap and some other exams too ...

online petitions do not work , ask delhi guys to do a morcha or something at iift ... bring this to the notice of AICTE ... then u might see some reaction

Food for thought

Having given the IIFT exam myself and seeing the way it was conducted...few questions come into my mind.

Reputed institutions like IIFT are reputed because of their core strength of spreading sound business acumen amongst budding managers.
However conducting a national level examination with the number of candidates well beyond the 1 lac mark..might not be as easy as it seems to the organizing party.

From The sheer logistics involved of distributing Q papers to communicating well defined instructions to member test center invigilators its a herculian task requiring expertise.

Has the time come where all important national level examinations be outsourced to a proffessional well known institution whose sole purpose would be to conduct them in a rightful ,systematic and adept manner.?

A common body to conduct various examinations would also ensure savings in terms of money and energy(that b schools usually spend every year) and a common knowledge sharing platform. What this cud also ensure is that because the effort involved isnt duplicated the overall cost of examination forms be brought down.

i read the petition a little while back..and to be honest i am surprised that PGites did not know about IIFTs rather peculiar examination

1. last year also, there was no seal on the exam paper.
2. the papers were given 10 minutes before the exam with invigilators asking the students not to look. however, nobody with any amount of brains took that precaution.
3. the papers do have some amount of errors..which was made famous by last year's much-maligned SNAP as well.

no offence to IIFT as an institute, but this smacks of a case of another-day-at-the-offiice syndrome.infact, i've never witnessed an exam more professionally conducted than CAT ( and i have given a fair no. myself). which is surprising considering the 1.7 lakh odd aspirants for CAT and the 30-40k for the other exams.

It is a matter of shame that a fine institute like IIFT conducted the all India test for admission into the batch for 2006-2008 in a manner so despicable. The list of woes, if ever penned, would be endless. The papers were not sealed and many candidates did attempt questions for at least 10 more minutes than were allotted to other candidates. Question papers were not properly printed with entire sets printed so lightly that the questions were not legible. Spelling mistakes, absence of proper answers did not do justice to candidates' efforts. I even witnessed complaints of pages missing, smudged ink and joined pages in the middle of the question booklet. The time keeping by invigilators was lax to say the least with no one to be found deputating as center head from IIFT where I wrote my test.


It turned out to be the most unprofessionally conducted test that I have ever written. It would be disgraceful if IIFT uses the scores from this test to admit students for the batch of 2006-2008. It is all the more astounding keeping in perspective IIFT's having conducted this annual exercise over the years. One is forced to question; how can an institute impart quality education of the highest standards if it cannot provide a fair platform for prospective students to compete or conduct a test with the slightest instance of professionalism or responsibility?


Our Editosaur is quite very right about the hue and cry bit. Will run over to the Indian Express office in my city tomorrow. Lets kick up some dirt about this. The least we can do is get the blockheads at IIFT to take notice of the farce that the test was. Can anyone in Delhi run up to HT or call them up?


cheers!!!

You should definitely take IIFT on on this matter. First thing you ppl should do or should already have done by now is call up newspapers like Mid-Day and HT through their helpline numbers prominently displayed in their editions. They would have suitably sensationalized the matter and made it known to IIFT that their sloppiness has been taken note of. I bet right now IIFT is not even aware that you guys have objections to their exam. How will the media cover it unless you people make a hue and cry about it?

A PIL is an extreme step and will take a lot of time. It would have to be filed in a Delhi court only. To even get a court stay on the exam you will have to undergo the headache of arranging witnesses in invigilators et al. By that time the admission season would be over and you wouldn't be left with much. Maybe after one year you will end up proving a point that's all.

ppl have got 15 extra minutes for gods sake!!!!!!!

15 min.......a single extra solved Q can make the diff, which is not even 2 mins of time.

Management is the foremost thing a student learns in his MBA, which was something missing while conducting the enterance exam.Its very sad that we strive so hard to be a part of an institute and this is what we get.

gd initiative estranged_gnrs.

come on PGites lets take this forward.



-rakesh

Dear friends,
I have created a petition on www.petitiononline.com. I have mostly quoted the text as written by Apprentice and others.
Please sign on it and give your comments as in what actually happened.Please use professional language and avoid slangs.

The link is:

Re-conduct of entrance test conducted by IIFT on 27th November.

Expecting your support and co-operation.Its high time we candidates get some rights and transparency.
The petition will be forwarded to IIFT and we will wait for their action.If there is no response,we will take the case to Ministry of commerce and pursue other legal means.
Rohit

i think the sad thing in india is that there are so many good students that bschools can afford to lose to students who werent that lucky during the exams. the whole point of the iift exam was who was the luckiest. ppl have got 15 extra minutes for gods sake!!!!!!!

no wonder i am feeling like a rat bcoz of such mismanaged exams by the so called top bschools!

Even though I haven't taken the test I feel that filing a petition and bringing this anamoly(or rather a cascade of them) to the attention of the institute is the right way to go ahead.
And PG is the place where people will be able to get the right stimulus to be able to take on (if the need arises) the management institutions.

Hie Guys,

Have been thinking over the issue for quite some time now... (given that Rohit passed on the thread link as soon as the thread was rolled out. ).

There are a few points which i feel are more relevant and ought to be brought to notice:

1. The lacklustre Time management (either in terms of absence of instruction from the organizers or haphazard implementation of the same on the inviligators part)

2. The absence of SEAL (boy-oh-boy... could u ever neglect such a vital point). Coz in an All-India level test, 5 minutes extra could just b the difference between person A getting a call n person B missing it! (More so crucial coz of the general level of difficulty being low, where the speed was the key!)

Other not so important points, though relevant, are the prining errors. But then, the institute in question alaways has the right to cancel any question when evaluating a paper.

My take: We should approach the entire situation with rather diplomatic outlook, maybe file a PIL, with a view to piont ou the anomalies in this years exam process so that it doesnt repeat the coming year. In the bargain, if they decide to cancel the test paper in question and retak it, might as well,e prepared for the same. But then, the onus is on us and we mustrise to the occassion.

Also, if we seriously plan to do the aforesaid, we must first gather a lot of support on the forum itself, work out the nitty-gritties of filing a PIL and prepar the action-plan.

count me in..
well ve were given our OMR sheets late n der was this big doubt on whether to use the pen or pencil in page 2:as per the instructions on the paper we had to use pencil n as per the invigilator use pen on the boxes n pencil to darken the circle.our admit card was checked with der copy of numbers after the exam was started.good 5-7 min was lost in this process.
and let me not forget to mention abt the real hard wooden bench..it still hurts

So, r v onto filing a PIL for conducting a retest of the IIFT test?...

What r the plans if any?...Mate, btw, if u serious abt this PIL thing, I m with u v shldnt find any prblm gathering support for this...This shld b the priority; v can think abt the fees issue that crops up inevitably every yr later on...Filhaal I m fuming over the IIFT fiasco..Atlst 5-6 guys in my classroom(as well) started answering before the scheduled start...