Hi,

I haven't seen any Delhi B-Schools ranking in Pagalguy page.Please let me know how i can come to know? Is there any link for Delhi MAT B-Schools?

<<<>>>>>

Thanks a lot... you have mentioned about IBA... What do think about IBA in terms of placement ? Is it same as MSRIM and IFIM?
Also , Any idea about Mount Carmel Institute of Management?

yes indus business academy is same along the lines of IFIM. ISME is bit lower than these two. all these 3 colleges are decent. in all these 3 colleges avg sal is around 3.5 la p.a. for faculty profile you can check their respective sites.

and i forgot to mention st joseph college of business administration. you can also consider that. it is also a decent one. avg sal around 3.5 la. p.a. for faculty refer their site.

no idea about mount caramel

avoid ISBM, they give highly exaggerated placement statistics. IFIM bangalore and MSRIM are same. MSRIM's PGDBM is an autonomous course. For both colleges avg sal is about 3.5 - 4 la p.a . faculty wise IFIM have more number of PhD's. I feel IFIM will have some edge over MSRIM. Dont go beyond PGDM in IFIM. During recession placements suffered in IFIM. As per preferences for MAT colleges in Bangalore

1 - christ university
2 - alliance university- fees is 14 lakhs plus
3 - indus business academy
4 - IFIM, MSRIM, ISME - these all are more about same

Thanks a lot... you have mentioned about IBA... What do think about IBA in terms of placement ? Is it same as MSRIM and IFIM?
Also , Any idea about Mount Carmel Institute of Management?

Hey Puys!!

Has anyone got the MAT DEC 2010 bulletin yet?? I have not got it till now.....

Also when can we expect the admit cards to roll out??

Cheers!!

This time MAT DEC 2010 Bulletin is given in the form of a CD. You will get it by around first/second week of december 2010.

How is IFIM ,Bangalore , ISBM Bangalore and MSRIM Bangalore ? I know comparison is not allowed.... but it would be great if any one can provide info in terms of placement,infra and exposure...?
Thanx in advance

avoid ISBM, they give highly exaggerated placement statistics. IFIM bangalore and MSRIM are same. MSRIM's PGDBM is an autonomous course. For both colleges avg sal is about 3.5 - 4 la p.a . faculty wise IFIM have more number of PhD's. I feel IFIM will have some edge over MSRIM. Dont go beyond PGDM in IFIM. During recession placements suffered in IFIM. As per preferences for MAT colleges in Bangalore

1 - christ university
2 - alliance university- fees is 14 lakhs plus
3 - indus business academy
4 - IFIM, MSRIM, ISME - these all are more about same

How is IFIM ,Bangalore , ISBM Bangalore and MSRIM Bangalore ? I know comparison is not allowed.... but it would be great if any one can provide info in terms of placement,infra and exposure...?
Thanx in advance

Well to be frank MAT colleges are not so good in IT specialization,as far as i know ofcourse...And for marketing there are so many good colleges, under MAt few are NDIM Delhi,NIILM CMS greater Noida, etc...and as u are planning to give exams next year, do prepare well and sit for CAT, XAT, SNAP, MAT etc....this will for sure broaden ur prospects...and right now just focus on ur preparations and give ur best. ATB!!

See this link...read posts here..
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/alumni-discussions/18070-mba-systems-have-done-mba.html
Non MAT Colleges
a)For Operations

1.All the IIM's
2.S.P. Jain
3.SIOM
4.NITIE
5.NMIMS


b)For IT and Systems

1.IIM C
2.NITIE
3.SICSR
4.SCIT
5.SJM SOM
6.PUMBA

I might have missed out on some colleges.

hi...well m doing MBA in SYSTEMS from BIMM,pune...awesome college.....placements hv started for our seniors...very gud companies have visited wid very gud packages.....u cn check out da companies visiting our college by visiting da following ink....
Welcome to Balaji Institute of Modern Management (BIMM)

Hey Puys!!

Has anyone got the MAT DEC 2010 bulletin yet?? I have not got it till now.....

Also when can we expect the admit cards to roll out??

Cheers!!

hey puys....
when is next mat??
feb??? is notifications out??

Yes Devanand, next one is in Feb. However the notifications are not out as of now.

Check AIMA - All India Management Association for updates.

Cheers!!

hey puys....
when is next mat??
feb??? is notifications out??

yippeeeeeee Says

i will go to submit my dd and form tomorrow, can anybody tell me the office timings of AIMA

You can submit it till 4 pm

i will go to submit my dd and form tomorrow, can anybody tell me the office timings of AIMA

Well to be frank MAT colleges are not so good in IT specialization,as far as i know ofcourse...And for marketing there are so many good colleges, under MAt few are NDIM Delhi,NIILM CMS greater Noida, etc...and as u are planning to give exams next year, do prepare well and sit for CAT, XAT, SNAP, MAT etc....this will for sure broaden ur prospects...and right now just focus on ur preparations and give ur best. ATB!!

See this link...read posts here..
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/alumni-discussions/18070-mba-systems-have-done-mba.html
Non MAT Colleges

a)For Operations

1.All the IIM's
2.S.P. Jain
3.SIOM
4.NITIE
5.NMIMS


b)For IT and Systems

1.IIM C
2.NITIE
3.SICSR
4.SCIT
5.SJM SOM
6.PUMBA

I might have missed out on some colleges.

Harrypoter Says

My qualification is B.tech and will be pursuing MBA next year, can you suggest some good MBA college from where i can do specialisation into IT or Marketing.And also i would like to know is there any institute which provides placements into good IT company.

chandanx22 Says

Whats the fee of Symbiosis like??

Fee Hover around 7-8 Lakh

i have given
jims
its gaziyabad
irm jaipur
chirst
imr gaziyabad

as my mat option is thats gud as i have only 6 lakh budget to spend give me some very college in mat under this budget plz

JIMS ROHINI N SIES MUMBAI IS THE BEST OPTION.....christ is also gud..

My qualification is B.tech and will be pursuing MBA next year, can you suggest some good MBA college from where i can do specialisation into IT or Marketing.And also i would like to know is there any institute which provides placements into good IT company.

i have given
jims
its gaziyabad -crap
irm jaipur
chirst
imr gaziyabad -crap

as my mat option is thats gud as i have only 6 lakh budget to spend give me some very college in mat under this budget plz

bimm pune
sies nm

i have given
jims
its gaziyabad
irm jaipur
chirst
imr gaziyabad

as my mat option is thats gud as i have only 6 lakh budget to spend give me some very college in mat under this budget plz

:shock: i want to know about **** KOLKATA
LOOKING for 2 yrs. full time mba there
please suggest me :banghead:

the college u named is starred on pagalguy. that it self gives the answer to the question


please stay away from these money making b-schools.

:shock: i want to know about **** KOLKATA
LOOKING for 2 yrs. full time mba there
please suggest me :banghead:

Hi

You can consider IISWBM, Kolkata and ofcourse IIM C!!

Regards
Punit
IES PGDM
Batch 2009-11

:shock: i want to know about **** KOLKATA
LOOKING for 2 yrs. full time mba there
please suggest me :banghead:

@ Roshni,

As posted by Tarun Sir, these are some of the top most clg'es under MAT. Most of them have their records posted as 4-5L+. However in the actual scenario it comes up to an Avg. of 3L+. If you have the potential to score well try to get thru CAT, SNAP and other competitive exams, the clg'es under which offers good ROI!

Whats the fee of Symbiosis like??

""You can enjoy your job only when you love what you are doing and not when you are forced to love something. And once , you start loving your job, career growth and money comes automatically . """

Awesome said sir !!!! Yeah what matters is the area of interest people do waste lot of time in running here and there in choosing specializations rather listening to themselves and there inner voice what they want from there life. A discussion is ok but nobody gonna do it for you .

Once again that was awesome post i have seen !!

A must read Post:

While applying for any b-school , just don't make its placement as criteria. This does not means to apply in any b-school.

ROI is a matter of concern . But , ROI does not refer to immediate placements which we get from campus. ROI refers to the value addition in long term , which a college provides you. 4-5 years down the line , there are people working at same profiles despite graduating from differently ranked b-schools which provided them different packages.

Also , there are many people who are not clear about the specialization . It is always better if we do introspection before deciding to apply for a b-school. There are few b-schools which provide excellent opportunities in finance , others in marketing and likewise... So, we can select a b-school in alignment with the specialization we intend to make our career in.

One thing more which i have noticed. People select even specializations on the basis of packages they will get from college . It is not the right way. Read books , articles , consult seniors to get idea about specializations and try to find area which attracts you . You can enjoy your job only when you love what you are doing and not when you are forced to love something. And once , you start loving your job, career growth and money comes automatically .

Though you may find this just as a lecture, but these are few things which i have realized with time and interaction with seniors/industry people.

Even if few people can read this and opt to decide objectively while selecting b-schools , the purpose of the post is fulfilled.

All the Best!

Courtesy: visionIIM-ACL

roshni mishra Says

i m referring to top colleges offred by mat

that should range between 4-5 lakhs.

@ Roshni,

As posted by Tarun Sir, these are some of the top most clg'es under MAT. Most of them have their records posted as 4-5L+. However in the actual scenario it comes up to an Avg. of 3L+. If you have the potential to score well try to get thru CAT, SNAP and other competitive exams, the clg'es under which offers good ROI!

You should take XAT,SNAP.
Good colleges under MAT.......
1.Christ
2.Alliance
3.BIMM
4.ITM
5.Siescoms
6.Jims
7.NDIM
8.Amity
9.EMPI
10.NIILM-CMS
11. IRM-Jaipur
12. Jaypee Business School
13. St. joseph, Bangalore
14.SCMS Coachin
15. IPE Hyderabad

roshni mishra Says

but wats the average package offred by these colleges

Average package offered by a clg is usually 2.5 L+. However in good clg'es having high records of placements, it shoots up to 4L+.

Now the avg. package you are expecting to receive depends upon the track record, reputation of the clg and ur individual performance.

i m referring to top colleges offred by mat

roshni mishra Says

but wats the average package offred by these colleges

which colleges you referring to dear?
what you can do is. the best source is the college website. look for doucment called mandatory disclosure in their websites for avg placements.

Thank you friends for your awesome response and help !!!! You guys are really what i call management scientists !!

So i need to do a lot of research before jumping in to take admission.
And ROI is a great and important factor which should not be forgotten , but friends one more thing which i want to know is that colleges sat something like "100% placements" and that av. gross salary about "3.5-4 lakhs/annum" , now there r some colleges which "claim" to this and when students pass out they r left with only somewhere like 2.5/annum, lets consider NIILM-CMS , in that individual thread i found some students passed out and getting 15-20,000 /month i.e around 2.5 lakhs/annum.but college claims atleast 6 lakhs/annum...NIILM-CMS fee is around 7.5 lakhs for total course(PGDM)
Here is one post in NIILM thread : - (please read first 2 comments)

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-state-level-cet-related/51464-niilm-cms-2010-2012-a-2.html


But once again friends, we dont know what % that dude got in MBA, or how he performed in his MBA studies coz thats also a great factor which will effect placements and package....so it s lot of research work i have to do.....honestly i feel very bad when colleges claims reveals to be false
.....::

hey

see the fact regarding these claims. maximum time they are inflated. they say average salary but actually what you should see is cost to company.. in certain cases companies also include rent of your cubicle. ;)
also you should not go for average salary rather go for median salary as average is not a good indicator of measures of central tendency. suppose 10 students got package around 12 lakhs and rest around 5 lakhs chances are that the average figure will be close to the higher package.

i would like to explain the second point through the example of my college

out of 360 students of bimm, 30 around have backlogs in exams. so as per rule they are not allowed to sit for campus placments. so the actually number of students for placement is less that the total strength. so the 100% claim is for the "eligiblie candidates" and not every student of the college.
please note: this is just an example. i dont know the numbers of backlogs.


good luck

but wats the average package offred by these colleges

Thank you friends for your awesome response and help !!!! You guys are really what i call management scientists !!

So i need to do a lot of research before jumping in to take admission.
And ROI is a great and important factor which should not be forgotten , but friends one more thing which i want to know is that colleges sat something like "100% placements" and that av. gross salary about "3.5-4 lakhs/annum" , now there r some colleges which "claim" to this and when students pass out they r left with only somewhere like 2.5/annum, lets consider NIILM-CMS , in that individual thread i found some students passed out and getting 15-20,000 /month i.e around 2.5 lakhs/annum.but college claims atleast 6 lakhs/annum...NIILM-CMS fee is around 7.5 lakhs for total course(PGDM)
Here is one post in NIILM thread : - (please read first 2 comments)

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-state-level-cet-related/51464-niilm-cms-2010-2012-a-2.html


But once again friends, we dont know what % that dude got in MBA, or how he performed in his MBA studies coz thats also a great factor which will effect placements and package....so it s lot of research work i have to do.....honestly i feel very bad when colleges claims reveals to be false
.....::

NIILM-CMS calculates its avg sal by adding (highest sal + lowest sal) / 2. this figure is bound to give a higher avg sal. usually the scenario is someone gets a sal of about 11 la. p.a and all others get salary of about 2-4 la. p.a.
then the avg sal comes to around 7 la. pa. which is surely misleading.

moreover the figures you reflected as 15,000 - 20,000 salary, that was i suppose during recession. according to a survey by Competition Success Review magazine in 2009 avg sal was down by 30-40% when placements in all good b-schools were considered. hence in all mat b-schools there were placements like 15000-20000 per month. even in alliance university, the placements reflected this. most of them didn't even got placed.

in 2010 according to the same survey, economy has started improving. the avg sal increased by some extent as a result better placements.

the future looks good with an economic growth of 8.5% + every year, by 2012 / 13, you can expect more better placements.

Thank you friends for your awesome response and help !!!! You guys are really what i call management scientists !!

So i need to do a lot of research before jumping in to take admission.
And ROI is a great and important factor which should not be forgotten , but friends one more thing which i want to know is that colleges sat something like "100% placements" and that av. gross salary about "3.5-4 lakhs/annum" , now there r some colleges which "claim" to this and when students pass out they r left with only somewhere like 2.5/annum, lets consider NIILM-CMS , in that individual thread i found some students passed out and getting 15-20,000 /month i.e around 2.5 lakhs/annum.but college claims atleast 6 lakhs/annum...NIILM-CMS fee is around 7.5 lakhs for total course(PGDM)
Here is one post in NIILM thread : - (please read first 2 comments)

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-state-level-cet-related/51464-niilm-cms-2010-2012-a-2.html


But once again friends, we dont know what % that dude got in MBA, or how he performed in his MBA studies coz thats also a great factor which will effect placements and package....so it s lot of research work i have to do.....honestly i feel very bad when colleges claims reveals to be false
.....::

Sir, One needs to score well in any aspect of his life. However with my personal experience I have seen that the marks matters as a cutoff while you are given the priviledge to sit for the placements. During the placements, it is your knowledge, ability to handle things, adaptability to various situations and inovating mind and thinking is all that which matters.

If you score well in your MAT I would suggest you to go for some of the top most colleges which comes under MAT before you think of going to the colleges you feel gives a false story of their actual success!

dipyaman_basu Says

A return on investment (ROI) calculation tells you what you get back for what you spend - and it's a great way to compare college costs. With the average cost for college rising, PayScale helps you figure out which school's tuition costs will return the biggest dividends for you after graduation.

dipyaman_basu Says

Return on Investment: How much you can get back after investing for a particular course in a clg!

ROI is nothing but your return on investment as said by my fellow puys.
adding to what they have said.
it constitutes of

1. how much you put in= total fees+everything
   
2. how much you are expected to get= talk about average placement figures
   
3. your opportunity costs: what you would have got if you were not in this course. say doing a job and getting a salary. add that to step 1
   
4. the ratio in good mat b schools is that you are expected to recover the whole fees of say 5-6 lakhs within 2yrs max to max.
   
5. otherwise i would say.. your mba degree has not helped you much
   

Thank you friends for your awesome response and help !!!! You guys are really what i call management scientists !!

So i need to do a lot of research before jumping in to take admission.
And ROI is a great and important factor which should not be forgotten , but friends one more thing which i want to know is that colleges sat something like "100% placements" and that av. gross salary about "3.5-4 lakhs/annum" , now there r some colleges which "claim" to this and when students pass out they r left with only somewhere like 2.5/annum, lets consider NIILM-CMS , in that individual thread i found some students passed out and getting 15-20,000 /month i.e around 2.5 lakhs/annum.but college claims atleast 6 lakhs/annum...NIILM-CMS fee is around 7.5 lakhs for total course(PGDM)
Here is one post in NIILM thread : - (please read first 2 comments)

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-state-level-cet-related/51464-niilm-cms-2010-2012-a-2.html


But once again friends, we dont know what % that dude got in MBA, or how he performed in his MBA studies coz thats also a great factor which will effect placements and package....so it s lot of research work i have to do.....honestly i feel very bad when colleges claims reveals to be false
.....::

chandanx22

ROI is nothing but your return on investment as said by my fellow puys.
adding to what they have said.
it constitutes of

1. how much you put in= total fees+everything
   
2. how much you are expected to get= talk about average placement figures
   
3. your opportunity costs: what you would have got if you were not in this course. say doing a job and getting a salary. add that to step 1
   
4. the ratio in good mat b schools is that you are expected to recover the whole fees of say 5-6 lakhs within 2yrs max to max.
   
5. otherwise i would say.. your mba degree has not helped you much
   

chandanx22

A return on investment (ROI) calculation tells you what you get back for what you spend - and it's a great way to compare college costs. With the average cost for college rising, PayScale helps you figure out which school's tuition costs will return the biggest dividends for you after graduation.

chandanx22

Return on Investment: How much you can get back after investing for a particular course in a clg!

Btw whats R.O.I. of a college???? o_o:|

Hey Priti

Point taken but because the thread is called 'Good MAT B Schools' hence i thought this post is very much relevant.

Anyway

Regards
Punit
IES PGDM
Batch 2009-11

Please don't advertise here about your college...its against the rules and regulations of the forum...I hope u know this as now u are an Expert Pagal now...not a Newbie anymore Sorry if I am being harsh.

U have already posted on" MAT B School Student Profile 2010" thread the same...double posts are considered Spam in this world (PG) Kindly refrain..


@ALL Puys Other useful threads for MAT Aspirants -

2010-
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-state-level-cet-related/51761-mat-b-school-2010-student.html
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-state-level-cet-related/52125-2010-11-good-mat-business.html
2009-
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-state-level-cet-related/41999-mat-b-school-2009-student.html
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/mat-state-level-cet-related/42698-good-mat-b-schools-2009-a.html

Thanks n Regards
Priti

Hi All

College Name:
- IES Management College and Research Centre, Mumbai

........................................

Best Regards
Punit
IES PGDM
Batch 2009-11

The BEST MAT BASED B-SCHOOLS IN TERMS OF R.O.I. IN INDIA ARE (Also mentioning the link for admission procedure) :-

1. SIESCOMS, Navi Mumbai
SIES - Indian Institute of Environment Management
2. Jims,Rohini
..:: Welcome to the site of Jims - Jagan Institute of Management Studies ::..
3. BIMM, Pune
Welcome to Sri Balaji Society
4. Christ, Bangalore
Institute of Management
5.IPE, Hyderabad
Institute of Public Enterprise - PGDM-RM

Please try to look for 2-3 pages before u post any query....or the best would be if u can follow this thread strictly....:D

BIMM PUNE
AMITY NOIDA
NIILM CMS
NDIM DELHI
SIESCOM
JIMS Delhi

roshni mishra Says

hey puys m appearing for dec mat and i am student of b.com final year with 59 % aggregate of 1 and 2 year . pleas tel me top 6 colleges of mat whome i can name so hat my score is being send to them?

@chandanx22 Not to worry...will not make any difference...the only difference in filling the name of the college in the MAT form is that the will send u the application form....rest all procedure is same...even the application form's fees will be the same.
So puys u have/ or have not filled any college's name in MAT form..chill!!! this is the time to give ur best into preparation...ATB to all of u!!

hey puys m apearring for dec mat and i am student of b.com final year with 59 % aggregate of 1 and 2 year . pleas tel me top 6 colleges of mat whome i can name so hat my score is being send to them?

cutie.pie Says

Please remove Asia Pacific from ur list...not a good college...

But i have dispatched form ....ok..when i get score i will once again get the final opinion of u all before making admission

cutie.pie Says

Please remove Asia Pacific from ur list...not a good college...

Well Ma'am the list of the ppl thanking you for your unselfish help does includes me too! If ya remember me.. :P

And Hats off for your excellemt service to the puys!

Please remove Asia Pacific from ur list...not a good college...

hi friends, so i am giving dec MAT, i have selected these 5 colleges where i want my score to be sent: -

Christ, bangalore
IILM, Gurgaon,
NDIM
NIILM
Asia Pacific.

i researched forums and get this in my conclusion..also i can't apply in Alliance and Amity since i have 55% in 12th (but 50% in graduation (b.sc maths) ), also fee wise they r very costly. Any suggestions/advices?


thanks:cheers:
chandan

chandanx22 Says

SIES - Navi Mumbai??

yes..its SIESCOMS Navi Mumbai

Dude,
this guy is having 50 percent in Graduation..so he cant go for BIMM....

@chandan
you should include
Jims
Siescoms
in your list

SIES - Navi Mumbai??

Dude,
this guy is having 50 percent in Graduation..so he cant go for BIMM....

@chandan
you should include
Jims
Siescoms
in your list

my bad. sorry for the error.

though BIMM pune is not in the list of participating colleges. it does accept the scores.

find out more at
bimmpune.com

Dude,
this guy is having 50 percent in Graduation..so he cant go for BIMM....

@chandan
you should include
Jims
Siescoms
in your list

hi friends, so i am giving dec MAT, i have selected these 5 colleges where i want my score to be sent: -

Christ, bangalore
IILM, Gurgaon,
NDIM
NIILM
Asia Pacific.

i researched forums and get this in my conclusion..also i can't apply in Alliance and Amity since i have 55% in 12th (but 50% in graduation (b.sc maths) ), also fee wise they r very costly. Any suggestions/advices?


thanks:cheers:
chandan

though BIMM pune is not in the list of participating colleges. it does accept the scores.

find out more at
bimmpune.com

hi friends, so i am giving dec MAT, i have selected these 5 colleges where i want my score to be sent: -

Christ, bangalore
IILM, Gurgaon,
NDIM
NIILM
Asia Pacific.

i researched forums and get this in my conclusion..also i can't apply in Alliance and Amity since i have 55% in 12th (but 50% in graduation (b.sc maths) ), also fee wise they r very costly. Any suggestions/advices?


thanks:cheers:
chandan

IILM Gurgaon, is not AICTE approved. they offer their program through AICTE-DEC (distance education mode). suggest rather you go for AICTE approved course. and i suppose the fourth one u mention is NIILM-CMS greater noida. others are decent enough.

hi friends, so i am giving dec MAT, i have selected these 5 colleges where i want my score to be sent: -

Christ, bangalore
IILM, Gurgaon,
NDIM
NIILM
Asia Pacific.

i researched forums and get this in my conclusion..also i can't apply in Alliance and Amity since i have 55% in 12th (but 50% in graduation (b.sc maths) ), also fee wise they r very costly. Any suggestions/advices?


thanks:cheers:
chandan

thanku bhaskar

You re supposed to click on the 'thanks' button instead of replying... saves a lot of space and energy!

You are welcome btw!

thanku bhaskar

chitti Says

hai friends good evening.... i'am new to this .... can anyone tellme wether good to take mat dec2010 or mat feb 2011.... right now i'am pursuing my btech 4th year... recently gave my cat 2010 also.....did well. and the 2nd qustion that cms in mind is that will feb score will also b taken into account for the mba admissions for 2011-2013 . thanku

First give the december mat and if it's not satisfactory you can go for february mat again. And yes, feb mat will be valid for 2011-2013 intake. Hope you do well in cat too!

hai friends good evening.... i'am new to this .... can anyone tellme wether good to take mat dec2010 or mat feb 2011.... right now i'am pursuing my btech 4th year... recently gave my cat 2010 also.....did well. and the 2nd qustion that cms in mind is that will feb score will also b taken into account for the mba admissions for 2011-2013 . thanku

anusha.m21 Says

can any one let me know What is the fee structure of alllince bussines school??and is there any fee reduction in the name of scholarships??Is that B school worth joining or not?

This link below is answer to all your questions.

Master of Business Administration, MBA

ATB !!

I also want to know about **** institute IS that worth joining or not???pleaseee let me know

can any one let me know What is the fee structure of alllince bussines school??and is there any fee reduction in the name of scholarships??Is that B school worth joining or not?