Its called the Possessive Poison rule. I could only find its reference in Manhatten's GMAT SC Guide. And i bliv the question in discussion has been picked up from the same source.
The rule says object pronoun ('him') and subject pronoun (like 'he') may not refer back to possessive noun (Jose's).
The twist is, the people behind the book are themselves willing to put away with the rule coz of the confusion caused.

Check out 2nd post: Pronouns-Possessive Poison • Manhattan GMAT Forums

So well, back to square one. ur guess is as good as mine.

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Sticking to the topic.
Here are a few more questions...

Identify the error in the following statements.
1. If I were him, I would not misbehave like this.
2. Good students like you and he should study regularly.
3. We were told to let only you and she enter.
4. Only you and him can do this work fast.

Shall provide sols later in the day

My take:

1. If I were him, I would not misbehave like this.(no errors)
2.Good students like you and he should study regularly.( no errors)
3.We were told to let only you and her enter.
4.only you and he can do this work fast (no errors)

hope im not wrong

Its called the Possessive Poison rule. I could only find its reference in Manhatten's GMAT SC Guide. And i bliv the question in discussion has been picked up from the same source.
The rule says object pronoun ('him') and subject pronoun (like 'he') may not refer back to possessive noun (Jose's).
The twist is, the people behind the book are themselves willing to put away with the rule coz of the confusion caused.

Check out 2nd post: Pronouns-Possessive Poison • Manhattan GMAT Forums

So well, back to square one. ur guess is as good as mine.

__________________________________________________________

Sticking to the topic.
Here are a few more questions...

Identify the error in the following statements.
1. If I were him, I would not misbehave like this.
2. Good students like you and he (him) should study regularly.
3. We were told to let only you and she (her) enter.
4. Only you and him can do this work fast.

My take in bold!

1. sentence seems ok to me. no correction.
2. last year i explored Egypt,Visited Pyramids and Saw various picturesque sites.

puys thread is going on nice track. just 1 suggestion. can we go for continuous numbering of question like 1,2,3,4,5......... so that we can track any question easily.

Agree!! it is creating lots of confusion man...:( ..we better sort it out

Its called the Possessive Poison rule. I could only find its reference in Manhatten's GMAT SC Guide. And i bliv the question in discussion has been picked up from the same source.
The rule says object pronoun ('him') and subject pronoun (like 'he') may not refer back to possessive noun (Jose's).
The twist is, the people behind the book are themselves willing to put away with the rule coz of the confusion caused.

Check out 2nd post: Pronouns-Possessive Poison • Manhattan GMAT Forums

So well, back to square one. ur guess is as good as mine.

__________________________________________________________

Sticking to the topic.
Here are a few more questions...

Identify the error in the following statements.
1. If I were him, I would not misbehave like this.
2. Good students like you and he should study regularly.
3. We were told to let only you and she enter.
4. Only you and him can do this work fast.

2.you and him
3. Her instead of she.

whizkid08 Says

@pathetic: Bro, can you also correct those sentences please? :grin:

I did man ...check the previous posts:) hahah

hi I have a doubt. our sentence is
jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him a pig...
now in this sentence him can refer only to jose as if we want to use pronoun for room then we will use "it" here. so I think we need to specify nouns only when any confusion arises but here there seems to be no confusion. Am I correct?

Its called the Possessive Poison rule. I could only find its reference in Manhatten's GMAT SC Guide. And i bliv the question in discussion has been picked up from the same source.
The rule says object pronoun ('him') and subject pronoun (like 'he') may not refer back to possessive noun (Jose's).
The twist is, the people behind the book are themselves willing to put away with the rule coz of the confusion caused.

Check out 2nd post: Pronouns-Possessive Poison • Manhattan GMAT Forums

So well, back to square one. ur guess is as good as mine.

__________________________________________________________

Sticking to the topic.
Here are a few more questions...

Identify the error in the following statements.
1. If I were him, I would not misbehave like this.
2. Good students like you and he should study regularly.
3. We were told to let only you and she enter.
4. Only you and him can do this work fast.

Shall provide sols later in the day

Can't say. Even i've read far too many sentences which wouldnt need such explicit mention of the subject.
eg, "Tom's new novel made him very famous". This seems quite apt when reading. It seems 'him' over here is a pronoun for Tom. But one could also say that 'him' could be referring to 'Tom's novel', which would then require re-framing the sentence as: Tom's new novel made Tom very famous.
(I m as confused as to which one is right)

Consider a different sentence: "Tom's brother was quarrelsome which made him infamous." Here its not clear if 'him' is referring to Tom/Tom's brother.
Thus, i suppose explicit mention would be required.

So in essence, Subject and object pronouns may NOT refer back to possessive noun.

PS: I have used examples on my own to give an explanation. For the funny language that English is ... i can't say the sentences i've used are perfectly conforming to english standards myself. So better lookup more authentic sources if u want to confirm on the above discussed rules. :cheerio:

hi I have a doubt. our sentence is
jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him a pig...
now in this sentence him can refer only to jose as if we want to use pronoun for room then we will use "it" here. so I think we need to specify nouns only when any confusion arises but here there seems to be no confusion. Am I correct?

identify the incorrect ones

1.My father told me he could do anything he wanted to do
2. I believed him
3.Dad said he wants to be the first photographer in the home town
4.He wants to develop color prints and so he did.

1. my father told me that he could do anything he wanted to do.
2. No correction.
3. Dad said that he wanted to be the first photographer in the home town.
4. he wanted to develop color prints and he did so.

correct these sentences:
1.jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him a pig...
2. last year i explored Egypt, visiting pyramids and seeing various picturesque sites...

1. sentence seems ok to me. no correction.
2. last year i explored Egypt,Visited Pyramids and Saw various picturesque sites.

puys thread is going on nice track. just 1 suggestion. can we go for continuous numbering of question like 1,2,3,4,5......... so that we can track any question easily.

@pathetic: Bro, can you also correct those sentences please?

From now on I'll just post my answers and stop refuting the arguments of others. Sorry. I am a newbie :
:biggrin:

On PG as seniors told just chill and feel free to post!! u can post anything provided it is not hurting and offending anyone..!!

:)

next question

find the incorrect statements in the following :

1.Ralph was arrested on for the theft of an airplane
2.He was sentenced for 90 days' imprisonment
3.ben said that he has been treated for depression for a year
4.He wanted to end his life

OA is 1,2 and 3

bhai log baaki 2 questions jo jose and fund wale the unka OA bhi post kar dijiye :)

waiting for new questions and if someone can post on sentence completion that will be appreciated more:)

thanx all

Maan..I'm really getting confused..but Jose's room is so messy that his mother calls Jose a pig.-- doesn't seem correct. It should remain as 'his mother calls him a pig". I don't have any explanations, just from reading experience..
Of course I may be wrong..but what's the correct answer..??

Can't say. Even i've read far too many sentences which wouldnt need such explicit mention of the subject.
eg, "Tom's new novel made him very famous". This seems quite apt when reading. It seems 'him' over here is a pronoun for Tom. But one could also say that 'him' could be referring to 'Tom's novel', which would then require re-framing the sentence as: Tom's new novel made Tom very famous.
(I m as confused as to which one is right)

Consider a different sentence: "Tom's brother was quarrelsome which made him infamous." Here its not clear if 'him' is referring to Tom/Tom's brother.
Thus, i suppose explicit mention would be required.

So in essence, Subject and object pronouns may NOT refer back to possessive noun.

PS: I have used examples on my own to give an explanation. For the funny language that English is ... i can't say the sentences i've used are perfectly conforming to english standards myself. So better lookup more authentic sources if u want to confirm on the above discussed rules. :cheerio:

seems convincing ..!!


next question

find the incorrect statements in the following :

1.Ralph was arrested on for the theft of an airplane
2.He was sentenced for 90 days' imprisonment
3.ben said that he has been treated for depression for a year
4.He wanted to end his life

1. Ralph was arrested for the theft of an airplane.
2. He was sentenced to 90 days impirsonment
3. Ben said that he had been treated for depression for a year.
4. No error.

OA Please

From now on I'll just post my answers and stop refuting the arguments of others. Sorry. I am a newbie :
:biggrin:

nahi omar saab!
Please argue/refute/contest/suggest as much as possible. Let's not agree so readily to half proven theories and end up learning wrong stuff. As they say.. half knowledge is more dangerous than no knowledge.
So if u dont kno the right answer, no harm in proving the other wrong, if u find it wrong.

From now on I'll just post my answers and stop refuting the arguments of others. Sorry. I am a newbie :
:biggrin:

seems convincing ..!!


next question

find the incorrect statements in the following :

1.Ralph was arrested on for the theft of an airplane
2.He was sentenced for 90 days' imprisonment
3.ben said that he has been treated for depression for a year
4.He wanted to end his life

1.Ralph was arrested on for the theft of an airplane.
2.He was sentenced to 90 days' imprisonment.
3.ben said that he has been getting treated for depression for a year
4.He wanted to end his life (No Error)

seems convincing ..!!


next question

find the incorrect statements in the following :

1.Ralph was arrested on for the theft of an airplane
2.He was sentenced for 90 days' imprisonment
3.ben said that he has been treated for depression for a year
4.He wanted to end his life

I think it should be statement 1 , 2 and 3.

Arrested on for is wrong
90 days' , apostrophe should not be there
he had been arrested

seems convincing ..!!


next question

find the incorrect statements in the following :

1.Ralph was arrested on for the theft of an airplane
2.He was sentenced for 90 days' imprisonment
3.ben said that he has been treated for depression for a year
4.He wanted to end his life

1,2,3???
arrested for theft
90day imprisonment
he had been

OA plz..

seems convincing ..!!


next question

find the incorrect statements in the following :

1.Ralph was arrested on for the theft of an airplane
2.He was sentenced for 90 days' imprisonment
3.ben said that he has been treated for depression for a year
4.He wanted to end his life

Hmmmm..

1. Ralph was arrested for the theft of an airplane.
2. He was sentenced to 90 days' imprisonment.
3. Ben said that he has been treated for depression for a year. (Not sure about this one)
4. He wanted to end his life. (Correct)

OA please?

Check out 'Possessive Posion' Rule.
It says:
Possessive pronoun refers back to possessive noun.
Subject and object pronouns may NOT refer back to possessive noun.
Apparently the correct sentence is:
1. Jose's room is so messy that his mother calls Jose a pig.
'his' being a possessive pronoun and 'him' being a subject pronoun. 'Jose's' is the possessive noun here.

I am not too sure how good this rule is. The suggested 'may NOT' stated in the rule is quite ambigouos.

Maan..I'm really getting confused..but Jose's room is so messy that his mother calls Jose a pig.-- doesn't seem correct. It should remain as 'his mother calls him a pig". I don't have any explanations, just from reading experience..
Of course I may be wrong..but what's the correct answer..??

Check out 'Possessive Posion' Rule.
It says:
Possessive pronoun refers back to possessive noun.
Subject and object pronouns may NOT refer back to possessive noun.
Apparently the correct sentence is:
1. Jose's room is so messy that his mother calls Jose a pig.
'his' being a possessive pronoun and 'him' being a subject pronoun. 'Jose's' is the possessive noun here.

I am not too sure how good this rule is. The suggested 'may NOT' stated in the rule is quite ambigouos.

seems convincing ..!!


next question

find the incorrect statements in the following :

1.Ralph was arrested on for the theft of an airplane
2.He was sentenced for 90 days' imprisonment
3.ben said that he has been treated for depression for a year
4.He wanted to end his life

correct these sentences:
1.jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him a pig...
2. last year i explored Egypt, visiting pyramids and seeing various picturesque sites...

Check out 'Possessive Posion' Rule.
It says:
Possessive pronoun refers back to possessive noun.
Subject and object pronouns may NOT refer back to possessive noun.
Apparently the correct sentence is:
1. Jose's room is so messy that his mother calls Jose a pig.
'his' being a possessive pronoun and 'him' being a subject pronoun. 'Jose's' is the possessive noun here.

I am not too sure how good this rule is. The suggested 'may NOT' stated in the rule is quite ambigouos.

identify the incorrect ones

1.My father told me he could do anything he wanted to do
2. I believed him
3.Dad said he wants to do first photographer in the home town
4.He wants to develop color prints and so he did.

Incorrect : 3,4

3. dad said he wanted to be the first photographer in the home town.
4. He wanted to develop colour prints and so he did.

identify the incorrect ones

1.My father told me he could do anything he wanted to do
2. I believed him
3.Dad said he wants to do first photographer in the home town
4.He wants to develop color prints and so he did.

1>My father told me he could do anything he wanted to.
2>Correct
3>Dad said he wants to be the first photographer of his home town
4>He wants to develop color prints and which he did.

identify the incorrect ones

1.My father told me he could do anything he wanted to do
2. I believed him
3.Dad said he wants to be the first photographer in the home town
4.He wants to develop color prints and so he did.

OA : 3 and 4 are incorrect as all he sentences in past tense

like

3.dad said he wanted to be the first photographer in the home town
4. he wanted to develop color prints and so he did

sorry 3rd question had a typing error, i edited it

correct these sentences:
1.jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him a pig...
2. last year i explored Egypt, visiting pyramids and seeing various picturesque sites...

1> Jose's room is so messed up, that his mother calls him a pig.
2>Last year i explored Egypt; visited pyramids and saw various picturesque sites.

Read each sentence 2 find out whether there is any grammatical error or idiomatic error in it. The error if any will b in one part of the sentence. The number of that part is the answer. If there is 'no error' the answer is (5).

1. When i called him yesterday, (1)/ he offered to donate (2)/ a handsome sum to (3)/ the fund relief fund. (4)/ No error (5)

2. The student which (1)/ you had thought (2)/ so highly of has (3)/ failed to pass the examination. (4)/ No error (5)

1. ... he offered to donate a handsome sum of amount to
(option 3)

2 .. The student whom
(option 1)

Please provide the OA

identify the incorrect ones

1.My father told me he could do anything he wanted to do
2. I believed him
3.Dad said he wants to do first photographer in the home town
4.He wants to develop color prints and so he did.

1,3,4???
OA please..

Read each sentence 2 find out whether there is any grammatical error or idiomatic error in it. The error if any will b in one part of the sentence. The number of that part is the answer. If there is 'no error' the answer is (5).

1. When i called him yesterday, (1)/ he offered to donate (2)/ a handsome sum to (3)/ the fund relief fund. (4)/ No error (5)

2. The student which (1)/ you had thought (2)/ so highly of has (3)/ failed to pass the examination. (4)/ No error (5)

My take
(1)
(1)

Whats the OA???

identify the incorrect ones

1.My father told me he could do anything he wanted to do
2. I believed him
3.Dad said he wants to be the first photographer in the home town
4.He wants to develop color prints and so he did.

correct these sentences:
1.jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him a pig...
2. last year i explored Egypt, visiting pyramids and seeing various picturesque sites...

my take:

1.Jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him pig...
2. Last year, I explored Egypt visiting pyramids and various picturesque sites..

OA plz

correct these sentences:
1.jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him a pig...
2. last year i explored Egypt, visiting pyramids and seeing various picturesque sites...

1. so much messy (i think.. not sure though)
2. visited pyramids and saw various or explored Egypt by visiting.......

@omar..
offered me to do X...
and offered to donate me X to Y...there shud be only one to after offered...
and also later would mean that he offered to donate the sum to the same person who called and not to the fund...

Read each sentence 2 find out whether there is any grammatical error or idiomatic error in it. The error if any will b in one part of the sentence. The number of that part is the answer. If there is 'no error' the answer is (5).

1. When i called him yesterday, (1)/ he offered to donate (2)/ a handsome sum to (3)/ the fund relief fund. (4)/ No error (5)

2. The student which (1)/ you had thought (2)/ so highly of has (3)/ failed to pass the examination. (4)/ No error (5)

Mmmmm..here's my take-

When I called him yesterday, he offered to donate a handsome sum to the relief fund. Therefore- (5)

#2 is easy- The student whom (1)
:cheerio:

1.When i called him yesterday, he offered me to donate a handsome sum to the relief fund.
2.The student, whom you had thought so highly of, has failed to pass the examination.

OA plz...

Well, dude I dunno what the actual answer is..but "When i called him yesterday, he offered me to donate a handsome sum to the relief fund." seems to be incorrect.

It should be - When I called him yesterday, he offered to donate me a handsome sum to the relief fund. ......?


What's the answer?

correct these sentences:
1.jose's room is so messy that his mother calls him a pig...
2. last year i explored Egypt, visiting pyramids and seeing various picturesque sites...

1. When i called him yesterday,(adverb phrase modifying offered) (1)/ he offered (me...coz its ambiguous that to whom he offered)to donate (2)/ a handsome sum to (3)/ the fund relief fund.(it's typo i guess...) (4)/ No error (5)

2. The student,(comma is needed here) which (whom...which for inanimate things)(1)/ you had thought (2)/ so highly of,(comma also needed here..coz it's adding an xtra info to the student) has (3)/ failed to pass the examination. (4)/ No error (5)

1.When i called him yesterday, he offered me to donate a handsome sum to the relief fund.
2.The student, whom you had thought so highly of, has failed to pass the examination.

OA plz...

Read each sentence 2 find out whether there is any grammatical error or idiomatic error in it. The error if any will b in one part of the sentence. The number of that part is the answer. If there is 'no error' the answer is (5).

1. When i called him yesterday, (1)/ he offered to donate (2)/ a handsome sum to (3)/ the fund relief fund. (4)/ No error (5)

2. The student which (1)/ you had thought (2)/ so highly of has (3)/ failed to pass the examination. (4)/ No error (5)

is it part
1. part (3) or 5
2.part(1)

Read each sentence 2 find out whether there is any grammatical error or idiomatic error in it. The error if any will b in one part of the sentence. The number of that part is the answer. If there is 'no error' the answer is (5).

1. When i called him yesterday, (1)/ he offered to donate (2)/ a handsome sum to (3)/ the fund relief fund. (4)/ No error (5)

2. The student which (1)/ you had thought (2)/ so highly of has (3)/ failed to pass the examination. (4)/ No error (5)

1. yesterday, when i called him,
1. The student whom

'm i right?:lookround:

Read each sentence 2 find out whether there is any grammatical error or idiomatic error in it. The error if any will b in one part of the sentence. The number of that part is the answer. If there is 'no error' the answer is (5).

1. When i called him yesterday, (1)/ he offered to donate (2)/ a handsome sum to (3)/ the flood relief fund. (4)/ No error (5)

2. The student which (1)/ you had thought (2)/ so highly of has (3)/ failed to pass the examination. (4)/ No error (5)

ill also post by 9pm:) thanx

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was waiting 4 such threads!! thanx mod... puys pls start putting sum questions.... i hav e-books on the basics of sentence correction.. if ne1 wans can pm me his/her mail-id...

I'm also aspiring for CAT '11... I'll be active in here and check previous threads as well.... Cheers!

sure dude...will carry on from here.....