Hey senior!

And how much do you think your learning at IBS Hyderbad help you in this? Do you think a course at maybe Alliance Business School, or Welingkar or Birla Institute of Management would have helped you do better?

I request all the alumni to keep this thread alive!!

Hello, I am Agnihotra, I have done MBA from IBS,Hyderabad, 2009. Searching jobs now. My total qualification is BSc(Chem),LLB,MBA(Marketing/Banking), having 18 months pre-MBA exp as Public Relation and Labor Liasioning Officer in a Construction company, 3 months in SBI(MCG) in the area of private equity and 5 months as Relationship Manager in an Insurance broking company(Apollo group) in B2B.

My present age is 30 years and also having some gaps in career.
I want to know.. is the age and this gap..are the reasons I am not getting good jobs?..what is the road ahead for me?...

I have excellent communication skills, people management skills and domain knowledge.

Please guide me in proper way.
Thanks a lot.

I understand, my friend. Your in a very tough situations. I can see the following reasons why your not getting jobs.
1. You don't have any solid experience in any field to get a senior level positions.
2. At 30 people may think you will have attitude issues and won't do fresher jobs reporting to people younger than you.
3. No strong brands

So what should you do? Read the book Ask the Head Hunter by Nick Crocodilos. It is a life changing book according to me. In brief I will tell what he suggests. But I still recomnend you try to lay your hands on this book and read it.

1. Do reserach and deep soul searching and identify your interests and areas of strength
2. Decide on target companies and jobs you want to do
3. Create linked in account. Add all your friends. Search for contacts in your target jobs/companies.
4. Join communities in areas of interest and network with people there
5. Read papers in the area and see if you can network with the authors
6. Speak to them and sell yourself hard

And in addition my views
1. At this point don't bother about position or salary as long as it is something you like and can do well
2. Express your flexibility to the company person your interacting with
3. Once you get the job, hold tight and hang on. Don't even dream of a change till you can show creditable achievement in the field.
4. And as and when it is time to change, do logical progression from career development perspective. Don't go purely for salary or switch to unrelated field.

Hello, I am Agnihotra, I have done MBA from IBS,Hyderabad, 2009. Searching jobs now. My total qualification is BSc(Chem),LLB,MBA(Marketing/Banking), having 18 months pre-MBA exp as Public Relation and Labor Liasioning Officer in a Construction company, 3 months in SBI(MCG) in the area of private equity and 5 months as Relationship Manager in an Insurance broking company(Apollo group) in B2B.

My present age is 30 years and also having some gaps in career.
I want to know.. is the age and this gap..are the reasons I am not getting good jobs?..what is the road ahead for me?...

I have excellent communication skills, people management skills and domain knowledge.

Please guide me in proper way.
Thanks a lot.

The Raven Says

Any of the IIMs and other tier 1 B Schools should be fine. But if you delay even one more year, you will be too old for TAS. (26 at the time of MBA completion is age limit). Aditya Birla Group is trying to develop similar program. But still hard to say if it will be as effectives as TAS. Other companies try but often don't know what to expect from the MBAs. Just because they are paying a lot (which they have to compete with Fin or even IT), they will get wonderful results. So have to watch out for that. Operations and SCM consulting would be the safest bet as per me. Once you have done a few years in consulting, you may be in a position to take charge in a general management role without much mentoring. Doing this right out of MBA might be more difficult.

Raven the age limit has been revised to 28 at the time of joining for interns of this year .. Now since the profile criteria is usually in same irrespective of the way you get into TAS i would assume that he has some time ..
Regarding AVB then they have a very similar program but very different criteria for selecting candidates for the General Management profile .. check this out: Student Opportunities at Aditya Birla Group - India’s First Multinational Corporation

BTW it might have been different at the time of your graduation

Hi,

Does the salary which we get before entering MBA would play a vital role with the salary being fixed by the companies during placement season post MBA? If so, could anyone plz let me know how to handle this?

Regards,
all4cat09!!

Sadly not much in top B Schools that admit lot of freshers like IIM. So not all people who were getting high pre-MBA salaries or having workexpereince are able to command a higher salary than their classmates without experience or less experience unless the pre-MBA workex is more than 80% relevant to the post MBA role. From your tone I believe your not currently getting good salary and scared. So from your point of view, hope it puts all your worries at rest

Hi,

Does the salary which we get before entering MBA would play a vital role with the salary being fixed by the companies during placement season post MBA? If so, could anyone plz let me know how to handle this?

Regards,
all4cat09!!

HI I am Summit Patel,
I have completed my MMS in operations Management this year from Mumbai university. With Prior completion of M.Sc in Physical Chem.
I have work experience of over two years in Quality assurance
I needed help on, what are the other job profiles that are open for me.
I know that I can join supply chain & Logistics, I can go into Production planning and control, I can join QA.
But I needed help in getting information on what are the specific profiles that i can get into with MMS+M.Sc.
Thanks for Info

You already mentioned what you can get into. That s about it I guess. For your profile you work experience will be of more value than your degrees I guess. So your 2 years QA will be more important than he MMS + MSc

HI I am Summit Patel,
I have completed my MMS in operations Management this year from Mumbai university. With Prior completion of M.Sc in Physical Chem.
I have work experience of over two years in Quality assurance
I needed help on, what are the other job profiles that are open for me.
I know that I can join supply chain & Logistics, I can go into Production planning and control, I can join QA.
But I needed help in getting information on what are the specific profiles that i can get into with MMS+M.Sc.
Thanks for Info

Hello There,

Similar is my query
I have broader experience, 2.5 years in Manufacturing- Automotive- TATA's
1 year in Engineering centre.
I wish to go for TAS or something that has broader sense.
Could u pls let me know wchi profile should i go for and also the B school

Thanks a lot

Any of the IIMs and other tier 1 B Schools should be fine. But if you delay even one more year, you will be too old for TAS. (26 at the time of MBA completion is age limit). Aditya Birla Group is trying to develop similar program. But still hard to say if it will be as effectives as TAS. Other companies try but often don't know what to expect from the MBAs. Just because they are paying a lot (which they have to compete with Fin or even IT), they will get wonderful results. So have to watch out for that. Operations and SCM consulting would be the safest bet as per me. Once you have done a few years in consulting, you may be in a position to take charge in a general management role without much mentoring. Doing this right out of MBA might be more difficult.

Hello There,

Similar is my query
I have broader experience, 2.5 years in Manufacturing- Automotive- TATA's
1 year in Engineering centre.
I wish to go for TAS or something that has broader sense.
Could u pls let me know wchi profile should i go for and also the B school

Thanks a lot

@For Everyone
Plzzzzzzzzzzz Help me out

Hello Sir/Maa'am


I am a B-Tech in Electronics and Comm

with work ex nearly 21 months as an Electronics engg in COSCO

Working in Operations of Machines(Electronics Parts)

Actually I have been going for PGDM(General) in BIMHRD

Specialisations to choose are Marketing and Sales, Opeartions with Systems, Finance For Major subject

IT is Compulsory as Minor Subject

So plz looking at my profile Plzzzzzzzzzz Suggest that which specialisation will Suit me best in future i.e. Post MBA

I am not interested in Finance at all


But do Help me out ASAP

Thanx in Advance

Dude,
Now that yoou know the college u are going...go to the college or contact the students or other relevant people and try to find out which companies come and prefer which specializations...also what someone with your profile would be offered in terms of profile and packages...

Make a notebook..write all that you get from all sources for one specialization in one page ...and in the end after 10-15 days of RnD compare the and decide... Also one way is go to orkut and try finding the group for your college and then check the members of this group..you get all your alumini here...whatever numbers, mail ids available ...reach them and get their view.... thats it...all the best

The Raven Says

This is the wrong thread for this query. Anyway the answer is : people with 3+ years work experience don't even write 10th or 12th marks in the CV. Freshers usually write it. But you can choose to leave it out. I doubt if they would ask about it in the interview. If you have brilliant marks in 10th or 12th (school topper, board rank etc,) then mentioning it on CV is big plus.

@For Everyone
Plzzzzzzzzzzz Help me out

Hello Sir/Maa'am


I am a B-Tech in Electronics and Comm

with work ex nearly 21 months as an Electronics engg in COSCO

Working in Operations of Machines(Electronics Parts)

Actually I have been going for PGDM(General) in BIMHRD

Specialisations to choose are Marketing and Sales, Opeartions with Systems, Finance For Major subject

IT is Compulsory as Minor Subject

So plz looking at my profile Plzzzzzzzzzz Suggest that which specialisation will Suit me best in future i.e. Post MBA

I am not interested in Finance at all


But do Help me out ASAP

Thanx in Advance

sarkar.sourav Says

Hi all, I've a query. What is more important . Scores in MBA level ? or pre MBA level . Suppose a candidate has below 60 % in HS level (10+2) otherwise decent grades? Will that candidate face problems in getting a job after mba ?

This is the wrong thread for this query. Anyway the answer is : people with 3+ years work experience don't even write 10th or 12th marks in the CV. Freshers usually write it. But you can choose to leave it out. I doubt if they would ask about it in the interview. If you have brilliant marks in 10th or 12th (school topper, board rank etc,) then mentioning it on CV is big plus.

Hi all, I've a query. What is more important . Scores in MBA level ? or pre MBA level . Suppose a candidate has below 60 % in HS level (10+2) otherwise decent grades? Will that candidate face problems in getting a job after mba ?

Hi all,

Just wondering why is this thread so silent ... This is what shows the real picture of life after MBA .. So guys post your profiles/work you do which helps people in making some informed decisions regarding MBA . especially this year profiles... which gives a better perspective on what of kind of roles people land up during such an environment ...

Regards,
Arvind

The Raven Says

Missed the "How is it different from a job as just a graduate?" part. Shall post all this kind of gyan after I have been on job for at least 6 months.

Check out this post on my blog Lucifer House Inc.: The Kollywood way : A new employee's management lessons

for a taste of what possibly can await a MBA grad in a new well paying general management job. Of course I have used some creative license to make it an interesting read. But the general idea is true.

Profile Name: Assistant Manager, Material Process Team, Supply Chain Services

Profile Description: Business Process Improvement Project and Leadtime reduction projects in SCS, plus one post-acquisition integration project
B school Name: IIM Calcutta
Batch: 2006
Specialization : None. General Management. Had my elective courses spread all over in a balanced manner
Sector: Manufacturing
Company Name Johnson Electric International Limited (HK Listed firm, world's largest micro-motor company)
CTC 20 lakh

Though I am not an MBA myself I pretty much know what MBAs do specifically in IT. So let me know if there are any questions you have on that. I am happy to answer.

Typically in IT there are just a few broad roles:

1. Business Analysts

2. Consulting esp in enterprise software (ERP, SCM, CRM etc)

3. Project management

4. Business Development/Presales

5. Product Management

6. Product/Corporate Marketing

7. Center of Excellence (CoE) - mostly for various organizational needs such as quality, metrics, training etc.

Arun

Puys,
Would really appreciate it if we get some more posts on this thread as it wud be really helpful for MBA aspirants like me to get an idea about the kinds of profiles offered after passing out of diverse B-schools.

Profile Name: Business Development
Profile Description: Account Management, Presales (RFP/ RFI, marketing collaterals), Lead generation
B school Name: Institute of Technology and Management, Mumbai
Batch: 2006
Specialization : Marketing/ Service Operations
Sector: IT Services
How is it different from a job as just a graduate?
- Pay is definitely better with a lot more career opportunities. Also gives the flexibility of changing profiles and Sectors.

Name: Abhishek Goyal

Profile Name: Associate Consultant

Profile Description: Presales and Postsales activities and Working on RFPs.

B school Name: SDM-IMD, Mysore

Batch: 2008

Specialization : Fin/IT

Sector: IT

Company Name Infosys Technologies.

How is it different from a job as just a graduate? Currently, i am handling Presales and Postsales activities across the globe. More specifically i wll be into Solution Consulting and wll also be selling Finacle Solution to the Global Banks. No coding stuff;)

Profile Name: Business Analyst

Profile Description: Requirement gathering, making used cases, business analysis, SRS/SCOPE document and working on RFPs.

B school Name: DoMS, IIT Madras

Batch: 2008

Specialization : IT/fin

Sector: IT

Company Name WIPRO

How is it different from a job as just a graduate? As a BE fresher, I was put into development and was restricted to a micro level in the project.

As a BA you look at the project from a MACRO level and is the interface between the PM/development team and client.
If you have prior work ex, then its an added advantage as you get to see and understand the business part as well as the technology part of the project.

Profile Name: Associate Consultant

Profile Description: Functional Implementation Consultants. HRMS Module specific.
B school Name: ICFAI Business School Hyderabad
Batch: Class of 2008
Specialization : Major- Marketing
Sector: Services
Company Name Oracle SSI
CTC 5
How is it different from a job as just a graduate? I was picked for the job rather than the org as a whole so i didnt have the painful journey of not knowing where i will be put. Its an excellent opportunity to work for the Org as big as this.
I am Blessed

Missed the "How is it different from a job as just a graduate?" part. Shall post all this kind of gyan after I have been on job for at least 6 months.

Profile Name: Project specialist, Operational Excellence

Profile Description: Understanding the various operations and helping the people in charge optimize the same to improve productivity, reduce costs.
B school Name: IIM-A
Batch: 2008
Specialization : Entrepreneurship/Strategy
Sector: Manufacturing/construction

Profile Name: Business Analyst
Profile Description:
Business Analysis ,Requirements Elicitation,Product Presentations,Software Estimation etc
B school Name:PSG ,Coimbatore
Batch:2005 -2007
Company Name : Ernst & Young
How is it different from a job as just a graduate?
My Engineering (IT) background helps me to communicate & understand the problems of the Technical Team.My Management background helps me to liase between the Programmer & Client thereby delivering Softwares that satisffy client requirements.

B school Name: SJMSOM, IIT Bombay
Batch: 2006-2008
Sector: IT Leadership
Company Name General Electric
Profile Name: IMLP (Information Management Leadership Program)
Profile Description: Details are HERE.
Highlights are: A structured 2 year leadership program involving work assignments as well as classroom trainings (including two 1month international classroom training) and distance learning. It consists of of four 6-month rotational assignments through different areas across different GE businesses which includes International rotations.
GE has recruited 10 IMLPs from various bschools in India (IIT B,D, SPJain, FMS, NITIE and perhaps 1-2 more) this year and around 90 globally.

How is it different from a job as just a graduate? Does not involve anything technical. The work would involve vendor management, project management for the multiple businesses of GE across verticals and across technologies. Its not a technology specific role.

For further details, feel free to PM :)

Profile Name: Client Relationship Management
Profile Description: Day to day client interaction and looking for opportunities to increase the wallet share. General management. Not operational. There are days when there is nothing to do, excpet send a couple of mails. Involves frantic coordination, follow ups, presenations and "danda bajaoing" to get things done.
B school Name: DMS, IIT Delhi
Batch: 2006
Sector: IT & Telecom
Company Name IBM India Pvt Ltd
CTC Slightly less than the avg salaries the B-schools are quoting this year. :wink1:
How is it different from a job as just a graduate? Does not involve anything technical. No coding etc. Lots of MS Office use though. Never worked as a graduate so will not know much. But definitely more respect within the organization and exposure to whats happening at slightly higher level

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Name: Sameer Kamat

Graduated from: University of Cambridge.

Year of Graduation: 2005.

Career: Made a career change from Consulting to Mergers & Acquisitions after my MBA. And then I left all that to jump into Entrepreneurship.

I now manage an MBA consulting venture called MBA Crystal Ball that helps Indian applicants get into the top MBA programs worldwide.

Here's why I think it's the --> best job in the world.

I am the author of the MBA book - Beyond The MBA Hype. I manage a popular thread on PG to share many of the ideas discussed in the book. Here’s the --> thread.

Hoping to interact with more folks who have an international MBA on their radar.