I am working in Mu-Sigma and can share my experience. Don't know about rest of the 2 companies so won't comment.

Work has lot of technical portion. Only difference is business logic. But to derive the business logic you need to code extensively on SAS and use excel a lot. So it's not a bed of roses. Yes it gives a great business exposure(in most of the projects) but you won't get rid of techie part at all.
+ves-> wonderful projects. Great exposure to business.
-ves-> insane working hours, work culture not grt(my personal opinion) and work(ie running the codes) might be repetitive in case of lot of projects.

It's a great learning opportunity but not a dream world. If you want to prepare for CAT I doubt you'll get much time to study for CAT.

You take the final call.

PS- I love being part of this company except for maybe work culture but then I am not preparing for CAT(had prepared before joining it)

sir,i applied 4 musigma few days back thru a site 4 fresher jobs but dey hav placd my application in waitin list, as d date z closing in how can i confirm dat my application has been submitted,is dere ny oder way f applying 4 d post f fresher engineers??

hi guys

i am a 2010 passout currently working in an IT firm since July.I wanna work for one more year and do MBA in Marketing.

currently my pay is good but work is hectic and i hate it. I got two other job offers in hand

1. Mu Sigma Bangalore Business Analyst 3.3lpa
2. Beroe Inc Chennai Research Analyst 3.3 lpa
3.Current IT firm(prefer not to mention it ) slightly higher

I live in chennai. My current company is good but i hate programmin :banghead:
The pay is good and work culture is awsom!

my question is should i stay here, prepare for CAT and join next year or should i switch to Musigma/beroe and work there for an year..

I am having dilemma because i think i might find it difficult to work and prepare for CAT at the same time in Mu Sigma,Bangalore. Plus its not in my hometown :(

Beroe looks good but after checking out the reviews in glass door am totally confused

The current company is awsome except that i hate IT jobs and its frustrating . But the advantage is its very near my home and i can find ample time to work for CAT and other exams...


plz throw some light... coz i am a:

I am working in Mu-Sigma and can share my experience. Don't know about rest of the 2 companies so won't comment.

Work has lot of technical portion. Only difference is business logic. But to derive the business logic you need to code extensively on SAS and use excel a lot. So it's not a bed of roses. Yes it gives a great business exposure(in most of the projects) but you won't get rid of techie part at all.
+ves-> wonderful projects. Great exposure to business.
-ves-> insane working hours, work culture not grt(my personal opinion) and work(ie running the codes) might be repetitive in case of lot of projects.

It's a great learning opportunity but not a dream world. If you want to prepare for CAT I doubt you'll get much time to study for CAT.

You take the final call.

PS- I love being part of this company except for maybe work culture but then I am not preparing for CAT(had prepared before joining it)

hi guys

i am a 2010 passout currently working in an IT firm since July.I wanna work for one more year and do MBA in Marketing.

currently my pay is good but work is hectic and i hate it. I got two other job offers in hand

1. Mu Sigma Bangalore Business Analyst 3.3lpa
2. Beroe Inc Chennai Research Analyst 3.3 lpa
3.Current IT firm(prefer not to mention it ) slightly higher

I live in chennai. My current company is good but i hate programmin :banghead:
The pay is good and work culture is awsom!

my question is should i stay here, prepare for CAT and join next year or should i switch to Musigma/beroe and work there for an year..

I am having dilemma because i think i might find it difficult to work and prepare for CAT at the same time in Mu Sigma,Bangalore. Plus its not in my hometown :(

Beroe looks good but after checking out the reviews in glass door am totally confused

The current company is awsome except that i hate IT jobs and its frustrating . But the advantage is its very near my home and i can find ample time to work for CAT and other exams...


plz throw some light... coz i am a:

can some one plz tell me
wats the dress code in mu sigma as even i hav been recruited by wat looks like a gr8 company

Ya its a great company indeed.
The dress code is formals during the weekdays except for Friday when you can wear casual.

can some one plz tell me
wats the dress code in mu sigma as even i hav been recruited by wat looks like a gr8 company

i got placed in mu sigma over the summer. hope this info helps.

basic aptitude test , 20 questions,25 minutes. 10 questions roughly, are basic quant stuff, easy to do. there is on DI set, a graph, gotta answer about 5 questions, again very simple. rest are split between basic logic and verbal. both are pretty simple.
there is negative marking if im not wrong.

cut offs were pretty decent though in my college. they shortlisted about 70 to the next round.

standard GD, i recommend starting first in your GD if you're confident of the topic.

interview is purely HR/personal stuff. they ask you your aspirations, tell me about yourself etc, few people got case studies to answer. again pretty basic.

is there test on verbal ability or any type of technical questions for the test???
i'm weak in both.... thts y....

There are no technical questions.
The pattern has changed slightly this year.
There are 20 question over all and you get 25 minutes to solve them. The level is easy. This includes all the sections.
However there are questions from VA too

slash_sword Says

Hello Its a speed based aptitude test ...Time Distance , Time Work , Probablity would cover the major part( been almost one year btw) also some basic stats portion(Std Dev median etc) might be covered as well ... !!! 4 Sections each with 10 and each with individual cutoffs (last year) ..if ur a cat aspirant ..shud be a cakewalk !!! All the best :)

is there test on verbal ability or any type of technical questions for the test???
i'm weak in both.... thts y....

ghemnani Says

Dude need your help can u mail me on my email id or call me on .... i need ur help for placement in mu sigma

PG rules do not allow sharing of email addresses and phone numbers on public forums. I would request that you edit the post and send a Private Message (PM) to Deepak with your details.

I am a B.Tech fresher who got placed in both MuSigma( Mu Sigma) & Cognizant Technology Solutions(CTS). I am confused where to go.I am resolved to do a mba after 1 or 2 of work experience. Do anyone know about life & work culture at musigma? I heard work time is very high like 13-14 daily.But working in business analytics(musigma) will it help in mba?if yes how?

I heard there is lots of free time in cts n work time 8 hrs daily only.
So the question is should i go for cts because i get time to study for cat more, or should i go for musigma with hectic and very high working hr? Does being a business analyst help doing mba? Will Bshcool prefer Musigma experience over cts experience?

Pls Help!!!!!

Dude need your help

slash_sword Says

Hello Its a speed based aptitude test ...Time Distance , Time Work , Probablity would cover the major part( been almost one year btw) also some basic stats portion(Std Dev median etc) might be covered as well ... !!! 4 Sections each with 10 and each with individual cutoffs (last year) ..if ur a cat aspirant ..shud be a cakewalk !!! All the best :)

I am not preparing for MBA actually.Though wish to do it but later...and what abt the interview??

abcsheetal Says

Hey, i have my placements for Mu Sigma in 4 days..Wanted to know what to prepare for aptitude and interview..Please help...

Hello Its a speed based aptitude test ...Time Distance , Time Work , Probablity would cover the major part( been almost one year btw) also some basic stats portion(Std Dev median etc) might be covered as well ... !!! 4 Sections each with 10 and each with individual cutoffs (last year) ..if ur a cat aspirant ..shud be a cakewalk !!! All the best

Hey, i have my placements for Mu Sigma in 4 days..Wanted to know what to prepare for aptitude and interview..Please help...

Can anyone tell me about the compensation details in MU sigma they told they would give a hike of 5-7 lakhs in the second year and 8-10 lakhs in the 3rd year i would like to know if its true and can someone tell me their inhand pay for the first year in pm (strictly confidential).
Are there any onsite opportunities and will we be compensated for long working hours and is there a selection test after one month training ,
Thanks a lot in advance...

@ Whiteshdw -
1. Compensation depends on your work ex and domain knowledge
2. 5-7 lacs cannot be hike, u do understand that. That can be your final package after the hike. (8-10 is a ridiculous expectation)
3. Onsite opportunities are abundant, assuming you are worth it.
4. Selection is based on your performance cum requirement basis.

@all -

1. Mu sigma is a great company to start your career with.
2. Work hours vary from project to project. 13-14 hours is not a daily thing.
3. Mu sigma is among the fastest growing private companies in the US. Attrition or no attrition its growing.
4. Compensation may not be the best among the industry and that's the reason most feel treated as dogs. There are other advantages like really smart people to work with.
5. For those just out of engineering colleges expecting consulting jobs... Have common sense!

Can anyone tell me about the compensation details in MU sigma they told they would give a hike of 5-7 lakhs in the second year and 8-10 lakhs in the 3rd year i would like to know if its true and can someone tell me their inhand pay for the first year in pm (strictly confidential).
Are there any onsite opportunities and will we be compensated for long working hours and is there a selection test after one month training ,
Thanks a lot in advance...

hey....wot abt the working hrs????
i heard they treat BAs as dogs....work long hrs n take less money....
n do u get to do some consulting work or only analysis????
wot abt growth prospects (in terms of job profile)?????????

I would say the working hours vary depending on the project and dead lines
Work is more of on the analysis side.Consultancy is some thing very different if you think consultancy in terms of companies like BCG , Mckinsey etc.
Growth prospects are tremendous.

Hi
Puys I have been working in Mu-Sigma for around 3 months, I can guarantee you that this is a very good place for freshers.
I found that
* v learn lots of new things
* Very good peer group
* Good growth in terms of salary other things when compared to cts,infy etc
* High quality of work

what Suchitra Ramesh said is right.thank god i made the right decision.

Thanks guys!!!!!!!!

hey....wot abt the working hrs????
i heard they treat BAs as dogs....work long hrs n take less money....
n do u get to do some consulting work or only analysis????
wot abt growth prospects (in terms of job profile)?????????

Hi
Puys I have been working in Mu-Sigma for around 3 months, I can guarantee you that this is a very good place for freshers.
I found that
* v learn lots of new things
* Very good peer group
* Good growth in terms of salary other things when compared to cts,infy etc
* High quality of work



Thanks guys!!!!!!!!

Hi puys
I am working with Mu Sigma from 2months and I feel its a gr8 organization to work for.
The attrition rate is high i totally believe that but for now they have introduced a pay hike after one year at musigma and the pay hike is around 70% that u would surely not get in CTS TCS wipro IBM accenture Infy etc
Work culture is good, specially the hierarchy is totally flat, you are totally independent in your nature of work , work varies from reporting to consulting.
The people around you are gr8 as their background is ISB SPJAIN IIM XLRI etc.so you tend to learn a lot in this org.
Any day i would recommend anyone for Mu Sigma

thank u very-very much....

Hi puys
I am working with Mu Sigma from 2months and I feel its a gr8 organization to work for.
The attrition rate is high i totally believe that but for now they have introduced a pay hike after one year at musigma and the pay hike is around 70% that u would surely not get in CTS TCS wipro IBM accenture Infy etc
Work culture is good, specially the hierarchy is totally flat, you are totally independent in your nature of work , work varies from reporting to consulting.
The people around you are gr8 as their background is ISB SPJAIN IIM XLRI etc.so you tend to learn a lot in this org.
Any day i would recommend anyone for Mu Sigma

can i know??
what;s the package given at both the organisation & how is the working invironment @mu sigma ??

Hi Deepak and other contributors,
I have 6.5 years of work experience spread across 4 companies. My last stint of 4 years was with a world class MNC. I am an engineer and have an MBA degree from a school in the top 10 list. Apart from my regular job, I taught CAT students at IMS and TIME and would have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours teaching over a period of 5 years. In the last 2-3 years, I have concentrated only on teaching and interviewing candidates at B schools in my plus time and have visited a ton of schools in the capacity of guest/part time faculty. I have also been working at Mu Sigma for the last 6 months.
Ive had vast experience coaching students vying for MBA seats and then interviewing them on behalf of the B school for adequacy. To me Deepak, your question is an open and shut case. Join Mu Sigma!!
Mu Sigma grooms you for the next level like no other environment does. I promise you this - what Mu will give you in terms of personal and professional growth in a year, will take you 5 years to achieve at a CTS.
The below is some of what I look for when I interview candidates for B schools, and you will see how Mu Sigma hones you there:
1) Leadership there are a ton of analysts who lead entire teams and accounts and youd have real experience to talk of here
2) Ability to handle pressure this is a young, go-getter, flat environment. It teaches you to speak your mind and handle responsibility and big clients early
3) Analytical skills Youre solving for business problems of the worlds best conglomerates. This is cutting edge analytical work that makes you push your brain
4) Is the candidate assertive? Youll be working with people from the very best engineering and MBA schools. Again, the culture and the company hone you to be assertive.
To Madhus cons, I disagree with all of them:
1) I have examples from just my 6 months here where the company has made exceptions to answer to some of my familys personal asks
2) Attrition is no higher than the industry average. The correct picture is to look at the rate of growth of the company. The company has almost tripled in size in over a year, and thats going to continue
3) The managerial and leadership in my mind is a new era in the art of leading teams. Its frank, candid, not hierarchy driven and importantly, effective.
4) There is a sea of people that have been working at the company since its dawn. I for one am no job switcher. I moved here because I saw advantages over my previous position and have long term goals here
5) I have not seen, heard or been a part of anything unethical in the company. This is hearsay and nothing more
6) You can ask anyone from inside the company. You will get a vociferous reply in favor of the high quality of work done here. Thats the main pull for engineers like Deepak
At the end of the day, MBA or no MBA, a company is obviously doing something very very right if it has a success story to write. This company has not written just any success story, its written a phenomenal success story.
Feel free to write me with more queries here and Ill get back.

what say puys??which 1 is better..for a pre-mba case..??please do opine..

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Hi,

I'm an MBA with close to 6 yrs of experience in Strategy Consulting domain. I had a brief stint at Mu- Sigma and here's my take:

Pro's:

- If you are interested in numbers and would like to get a little bit of business understanding (mind it little bit is the operating word). Other fresh graduates may not agree, but that is the fact- then this is a good place to start
- If you are passionate about numbers and analytics, this is the place to be
- High intellectual capital across the organization gives you a nice academic environment
- High learning curve should keep your mind sharp
- Quick promotions if you are good
- Onsite opportunities

Con's:

Unfortunately this is the fact- this list is huge. Hence the decision is completely driven by passion and what you want to achieve.

- Very bad organization in terms of treating people. In fact no regard for people. Stories like the CEO telling people quitting within 3 months that "I didn't expect you to stay for more than 6 months, so work for as long as you want and go out"
- Extremely high attrition- somewhere in the range of 35-40%. The average tenure of employees is around 5-7 months! Reasons- long work hours, you are micro-managed, treated like shit! Top it off with bad pay!
- Rudimentary managerial skills, which makes life for employees even more difficult
- Everyone in the organization is looking for a short stint and I did not come across even a single one who said they want to make a career out of Analytics/Mu-Sigma
- Across the industry Mu-Sigma is known for unethical work ethic
- They claim to be doing very high-end work, but most of the time almost 70-80% of the time you end up doing reporting work. Say analyzing a survey, preparing a dashboard for sales people, cross tabulating some results to see performance. Coming from consulting, all these information are "Nice to Have" and nothing of very high impact.
- Modeling does happen, but that too in pockets

I can go on and on, but from what I gathered having spoken to post MBA this is definitely not a place to come. Pre-MBA this is little different to your regular run of the mill IT jobs. But let me tell you very clearly. Here too you handle data, but you end up doing coding most of the time- Using SAS or VB. Just that you know what you are getting to compared to a large IT project as the team size is small.

Coming to your other question on MBA and ANalytics advantage. I believe it is your capability to project something and not the domain itself that gives you an advantage. Yes, more IT engineers are not preferred, but just coming from Analytics background is no guarantee to success. I have seen quite a few leave this company to join good MBA programs. Also have seen more people leave this company with dis-satisfaction and remorse.

Good luck with your decision,

Best,
Madhu

is the musigma work environment that bad? ...
also what are the prospects if you stick around for more than a year?

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Hi,

I'm an MBA with close to 6 yrs of experience in Strategy Consulting domain. I had a brief stint at Mu- Sigma and here's my take:

Pro's:

- If you are interested in numbers and would like to get a little bit of business understanding (mind it little bit is the operating word). Other fresh graduates may not agree, but that is the fact- then this is a good place to start
- If you are passionate about numbers and analytics, this is the place to be
- High intellectual capital across the organization gives you a nice academic environment
- High learning curve should keep your mind sharp
- Quick promotions if you are good
- Onsite opportunities

Con's:

Unfortunately this is the fact- this list is huge. Hence the decision is completely driven by passion and what you want to achieve.

- Very bad organization in terms of treating people. In fact no regard for people. Stories like the CEO telling people quitting within 3 months that "I didn't expect you to stay for more than 6 months, so work for as long as you want and go out"
- Extremely high attrition- somewhere in the range of 35-40%. The average tenure of employees is around 5-7 months! Reasons- long work hours, you are micro-managed, treated like shit! Top it off with bad pay!
- Rudimentary managerial skills, which makes life for employees even more difficult
- Everyone in the organization is looking for a short stint and I did not come across even a single one who said they want to make a career out of Analytics/Mu-Sigma
- Across the industry Mu-Sigma is known for unethical work ethic
- They claim to be doing very high-end work, but most of the time almost 70-80% of the time you end up doing reporting work. Say analyzing a survey, preparing a dashboard for sales people, cross tabulating some results to see performance. Coming from consulting, all these information are "Nice to Have" and nothing of very high impact.
- Modeling does happen, but that too in pockets

I can go on and on, but from what I gathered having spoken to post MBA this is definitely not a place to come. Pre-MBA this is little different to your regular run of the mill IT jobs. But let me tell you very clearly. Here too you handle data, but you end up doing coding most of the time- Using SAS or VB. Just that you know what you are getting to compared to a large IT project as the team size is small.

Coming to your other question on MBA and ANalytics advantage. I believe it is your capability to project something and not the domain itself that gives you an advantage. Yes, more IT engineers are not preferred, but just coming from Analytics background is no guarantee to success. I have seen quite a few leave this company to join good MBA programs. Also have seen more people leave this company with dis-satisfaction and remorse.

Good luck with your decision,

Best,
Madhu

deepak_george Says

Thanks guys for ur valuble advice. Can anyone tell, how being a business analyst help in iims? Do they hav subject business analysis? Just wondering !!!!!

I work in a firm that completes with Mu-Sigma for business as an analyst. So my take on the same is as follows

- Every B school is looking for diversity in their batch profiles. This is based on people with different experiences bringing different view points to the classroom. With a analytical background (which fewer people have) instead of a software background (a much larger group of applicants) the odds of being selected in a B school interview are a little better. This does not mean that software is in any way a bad choice. If you are good you can excel in any company and that is what schools are looking for.

- Chances are that the work would be based on statistics and other mathematical models using client data. If your work keeps you using maths and you ensure that you do calculations in your head when you can, it might give you a edge in the quant sections. One thing I felt in the last CAT was that working with large data sets can help you get a feel for numbers. (approximations)

- As already mentioned, consulting hours might be higher on average with respect to IT but these are AVERAGES. There are outliers and it depends on your particular case. You could possibly get staffed on a light project in Mu-Sigma and you could possibly get staffed on a project that has gone crazy at CTS. But in line with the above two points, your odds of getting staffed on a project working 13 hours are a lot higher.

That said, its your call completely.

deepak_george Says

Thanks guys for ur valuble advice. Can anyone tell, how being a business analyst help in iims? Do they hav subject business analysis? Just wondering !!!!!

stop wondering

Thanks....................

it depends on which proj u r into in any mnc... u may get into a proj in cts which requires 13-14 hrs work a day... so don't go by working hours... go fr mu sigma..... cts profile is s/w and it is same fr all IT mnc guys and not at all an distinctive advantage if u go fr mba..

Mu Sigma...you will find time out!!

ATB