@xyz12345 said:

any information or update on waitlist movement? when can this be expected?? anyone spoke to adcom on this recently??

@EPGP_IIMB said:

@aamjunta2012, chill mate..the same well known IT MNC came with a junior role this year and we educated them about the batch composition....now they are hiring from EPGP for much senior roles. This is what we called making industry/company aware of the EPGP program and not sitting in a corner and expect everyone to rollout red carpet.Having said that....I'm not interested to keep responding to all your claims.... You are welcome to make your statements and as a current student who is proud about associated with IIM-B brand name I made a statement so that people do not get carried away. Period.regards,EPGP_IIMB

@sunshine77 said:

@sandy46410 Both aamjunta2012 and rajeshfc are spreading negative rumors about the one year MBA course in general. Since you have asked for IIMA in particular, I would not go over the details of their claims, but would simply point out to you the placement report of last year which has been audited by the CRISIL (an independent audit and rating organization) and available for public at following locations:www.iimahd.ernet.in/users/plac...or also at :crisil.com/pdf/ratings/IIM-A_P...

All along we have been discussing the application process, interviews and helping each other out.

And now when the results are out and acceptance deadline is close, there is an increase in the no. of negative posts about EPGP. So, I am just wondering about the timng of these posts.

Hi All,

I have personally talked to couple of allumnis of IIMB 2011-2012 EPGP batch and I endrose that whatever aamjunta has said is the truth and voiced my both the alumni that I spoke to.

For people who have final admits from B and either of A or C I would seriuosly recommed to prefer A/C. A is after all A even endorsed by Financial Times ranking which is much better than ISB also.

And C is traditionally a low profile school (being in bengal, faculty is averse to marketing) for both pgp and pgpex. But their 1 year programme way ahead from B and much more mature.It has full faculty support, proper infrastructre and palcement support. Though placement are primarily driven by students only but that is the case with pgp also and being a smaller batch provides better chances of getiing a good job.

B was last among big three to laucnh their program but charging the max, and top of it lack of infrastrucre. I realy doubt their seriousness.

In essence please dont get swayed by hype and glamour, please do thorough research on prgogrammes and then decide which one to choose. Since these programmes are relatively new so each institute is on a different maturity curve.

@epgpmaihuna said:

@fightformba i do not have data to believe what he is saying. I just meant the wordings looks authentic, by that I meant those statements doesn't look like complete outlier I do not endorse it in anyway.you are right these are affecting our moral...i was feeling gung ho about the course...and thinking of putting my papers...earlier to chill down...and enjoy before going into a rigorous regime...nothing else worry me more than attitude of iimb community including faculties involved in pricing the course and all that. At 21.5 lacs all inclusive IIMA is providing on campus stay...3 meals a day...and complete peace of mind so that one can focus just on essentials...that is the rigor of the course..at 22.77 lacs IIMB leaves several other minor costs plus no food as I was told, plus leaving in ajmera...plus their attitude that on campus facilities couldn't be provided...because of lack of space...IIMA is exactly 100 acre, what more iimb is doing on campus...what I heard is IIMB has become more greedy in terms of making money in terms of executive trainings...in fact they have a big on campus presence for executive cell which deals with short term trainings with industry...but no focus on epgp even with this absurdly high pricing......I am afraid speaking that here...but it is better at least in comparison to speaking f2f...worst i would like to do is starting the course with negative publicity...but yes i m frustrated with this pricing...

@epgpmaihuna I have been following this thread quite closely for the past few months. I have just got an admit and was all over the moon. However on seeing the post from aamjunta some questions have actually popped up: -

1) I know that there might be few people who remain unplaced at the end of the course but 40% of the batch remaining unplaced is definitely a matter of concern. I sincerely do not want to believe this.

2) If the reason for this is only high aspiration of students then it is a different issue. But if people expecting a decent hike (in the range of 4-5 lakhs pa) after the mba are also suffering then it is a scenario worth thinking over, considering the fact that there are families to maintain and EMIs to pay post MBA

3) I have seenn that this post is discussed in other b-school threads as well. I think somehow this is affecting the brand equity of the course to some extent. I request the seniors to look into this.

Hi euros

well .... aamjunta is indeed brutally honest and cheers to him.
But he has also left many others with sleepless nights, pondering over the placement blues !!

rightly said epgpmaihuna, everything cant be given on a plate. I am an alum of one such programme and share my views on this.

Placements at iims even in pgp programmes are student driven. Believe me when I say this, there are only very few faculty who can get student placed through their connects. Most of the profs are of no use for placements they knows that and companies knows that too.

Sp placement of such programs is function of many things - quality of batch, collective effort of batch and right set of expectations. Before blaming insitute and programme first see yourself do you carry enough quality in yourself to command premium jobs in the market. In case of pgg companies are sure of quality since CAT is a good filtering crietrion but what about these progamme they need to be doubly sure.

Also from my own experience I observed that some students were just lucky to be part ofsuch prestigious institues, I my self would never recommend such profiles to anyone in my company inspite of being my bacthamtes.

Regards

@aamjunta2012

I understand from your post that a considerable portion of the batch was not placed till convocation. I will like to know the following:

1) Was this because people had high salary expectations for which they did not go to lower paying jobs that came on campus?

2) Is this issue for those who are from non-IT background since Bangalore is IT hub.

3) What is the scenario like for junior guys in the batch with 7-8 years of experience, fitment of whose is easier compared to higher experienced people.

@kallilc said:

Hi epgpmaihuna, i have sent a PM to add my id.Thanks

my 2 cents...

as managers/leaders we should "hope for the best but plan/prepare for the worst". No degree can guarantee one success if one doesn't know how to use/apply the skills.

i know some of my IIT batchmates who came out of IIT jobless. But they made it big with their perseverance. But still we all say that IITs are the best.

Same is what I will say for IIMs. There may be some challenges in placements, etc but we should approach this course more as an investment for future and lot look for immediate ROI.

@aamjunta2012 Hi... OK .. noted that I did not have this skype chat with u.

Well....., this is more worrisome, because this person with whom I had skype chat was also a 2012 passout and he had very similar feedback as you !!!

Hi @epgpmaihuna, have sent you a PM with my id too. Request you to add.

Thx!

@aamjunta2012 said:

@xyz12345

you will not get any hard data for our placements from the current batch students simply because they dont have it. also i have nothing to gain by presenting false data. also i dont want to sugarcoat the programme in anyway.

chennaichess,

i have not spoken to any unknown person on skype so dont think we have spoken before

@aamjunta2012 said:

Congrats to all those who have been selected.

I'm sure that all of you have made an informed decision but just a few points to think about on the placement/branding side of things (some of which you may already know!):

* The one year programme has not yet obtained the same level of industry-recognition that the 2 year PGP programmes have already obtained. The end result is that the plum roles/companies that are available for the 2 year PGP programme is by and large not available to the 1 year programme. So big names in the "traditional MBA type employer" mould are not to be seen here. Even big IT cos are very very selective when it comes to the 1 yr programme.
* As far as the adminstration etc is concerned, the less said the better. Like most government bodies they take their own time. It might take a good few years for this programme to gain the same stature as the 2 year programme. There's been virtually no concerted attempt from IIMB to promote the 1 year programme brand image as they fear that it will cannibalise the 2 year programme.
* Placements - Placements are completely student driven as you may know. The more "contacts" the placement committee has the better. Alumni network is pretty much non-existent and there is no access to the PGP alumni base. [there's no structured access to even the EPGP alumni database!!] . You will hear the "We are not a placement agency" motto from day 1 so be prepared for this.

The placements for 2011-12 were nothing short of a disaster.
On convocation day, about 24 students were still to be placed[approx 40% of the class ].
2 months after convocation, about 17 students were still to be placed.
About 9 students had to go back to their previous organisation, some of them in exactly the same role as they had before they joined the programme.

In the weeks following convocation, those students who were not placed were literally begging the professors and the administrative staff to give them industry contacts so that they could find a decent job and only a couple of professors empathised.

Yes, a few students did get good roles and good packages as well, but you look at the probability yourself and then decide if you want to bet about Rs. 35 to 40 lakhs in opportunity cost against a very uncertain outcome.
If your goal is only to enhance your knowledge and if you have a strong network of your own, by all means you can jump in but i'm sure nearly everyone who applies has certain expectation w.r.t. placements from the institute.
Like most things in life this is a very subjective decision, so make your own choice. Just ensure that its a rational decision and not an emotional one.
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Regarding the placement statistics posted on the IIMB website for the 2011-12 batch (http://www.iimb.ernet.in/sites/default/files/u181/EPGP%20Placement%20Statistics%202012_0.pdf ), I'd like to highlight a few "errors". See the diagram at postimage.org/image/r14rn5383/ which has some comments.

Goodluck and Goodbye,
EPGP 2012 passout

has anyone received the hard copy of the offer letter ?

Do we need to send the documents by mail or courier ?

@caimaera said:

@epgpmaihuna I have sent you a PM. Please check and confirm. Thanks.

@epgpmaihuna I have sent you a PM. Please check and confirm. Thanks.

@rmysore said:

@epgpmaihuna I've already sent my request twice but dont see that i've been added. can u pls add rajaram.mysore@gmail.com?

@newbee1977 said:

@epgpmaihunaHi, epgpmaihuna, please include vijay.kaniyar@@gmail.com

@rmysore said:

@epgpmaihuna I've already sent my request twice but dont see that i've been added. can u pls add rajaram.mysore@gmail.com?

@epgpmaihuna I've already sent my request twice but dont see that i've been added. can u pls add rajaram.mysore@gmail.com?

@xyz12345 said:

@EPGP_IIMB hi. EPGP_IIMB. I have a query. While PGPX is ranked at 11th in FT Global ranking, why dont we see any attempt by EPGP to participate in FT ranking? Is there any plans from IIMB on that and on when if u have any info on this. And what ranking can we expect if they ever do rank IIMB EPGP program? Thanks in advance.

@EPGP_IIMB said:

EPGP program will be eligible for FT rankings only after the current batch graduates...as FT mandates min 4 years....so ideally we should expect to be ranked in FT in 2013 provided IIMB chooses to participate it this ranking.

@EPGP_IIMB said:

infact guess EPGP program will not be eligible for 2013 rankings as the survey for Global MBA rankings 2013 is currently underway (FT survey happens during Sep/Oct). So it should be something that those of you who will join EPGP V might have to actively pursue...

@schatz said:

@ThinkPositive sure. I'm assuming you are in the same boat? Admits from both B as well as C ?

@epgpmaihuna said:

there are a totsl of 53 members plus two new request i hv sent..those who are left plz ping..