As cliched as it sounds... all I can say is... get some work exp... find out if you really wanna do an MBA... coz now you sound really young and unfocussed

If you go ahead with this... since you don't have work exp.. after the Taiwanese MBA... you may end up coming back to India and working in a BPO in a position where anyone in the BPO industry with 3-4 yrs experience is... that's porbably not what you want... so just don't rush into an international(?) MBA right now... try the IIMs... and if that doesn't happen try GMAT after a few yrs work exp

hi junta,
i really need help of all the trainees.
as mine situation is a bit arbit one!!
well, i am doing b.a(chinese) in final year.(no work exp.)
and there is a scholarship of taiwan govt. to study mba anywhere in taiwan.
now the best university in taiwan is national taiwan university (as i have heard).
also, i am quite sure that i can get that scholarship.so it is expected that i will get a call from ntu(national taiwan university) for the mba.
but i really dont know that whether this degree will do any good for me in getting job in india or abroad.
i really dont know about the real reputation of ntu and its placement.
so,i plead to all trainees that plz tell me the truth about ntu and tell me that is it worth doing??????

Thaks abhi for the reply.,....

I think that u wud be better if u go for am MBA straightaway........but for that u have to get a new and much improved GMAT score........there is no fixed defination for a gud GMAt score but aiming for 700+ will be a gud idea considering the scools u have in mind.

CHill

Hello ppl,

Guys i am a bit confused.

I am working in my family-owned business firm thats into manufacturing and export, however i am interested in pursuing a MBA with specialisation in Finance. I currently have 2 yrs of work ex and by AEP 2007 i will complete close to 3.5 years.

My questions are: -

1. Will i be better off doing a MS. in financial management from a reputed University, then working in the relevant industry for some years and later pursue an MBA?

2. Will doing an MBA next year be too early for me ( as most univ have avg. work-ex of about 5-6 yrs)?

3. What is an acceptable GMAt score for a profile like mine if i want to get into a good B-School (NUS, MBS, RSM, Lancaster, etc..). I took up GMAT and got 540.. so want to set a decent target before i take a plunge again.

4. Would it be difficult to get a job post MBA in the Financial Sector(without prior experience), as i currently work in a totally different field.

My Profile: -
Decent Academics (GPA 3.4), good extra-curriculars and a university rank

Hi All,
I am a new member of pagalGuy.....planning for fall 07 applications.
My details:
GMAT 710
WorkEx 2.5 yrs in Infosys, Bangalore
Targetting Ross School and Darden in the 1st round.....

Hi Abhi,

I have not taken GMAT yet .... and no one know what is in store for me .... but I am replying to ur Queries on the basis of the knowledge I have gathered from people around ...

First of all my friend! Relax .....There is a bad day in everyone's life .... and there is something called the "worst" day!

You can do it! ... .... My friend the only "strategy" to fair well is Hard work .... I know you must have read that people scored 750+ with just two weeks of preps .... but even they put some hard work at some point in their life ... which helped them now!!!

So nothing can stop you pal! Go for it .... Take it again and you will come with flying colors

I have taken up GMaTand got a BAD score of 540.??:

Do i even stand a chance in any good University ( RSM, MBS, NUS, etc.) with such a score.

Frankly ... No My friend ... if you see the Average scores of these schools would be around 660 - 690 ....

MY Profile: -
Academics + Extra Curicullars: -

I have a decent Academic record ( GPA 3.4 - app. 84 - 85% in my BBM) and hols a rank from the Bangalore University. My extra - curicullars are good and have an all round achievement award from the College for the same.

Work Ex: -

I am curerently working in my family owned export venture and will complete 2.5 yrs by Oct 2006 (app. 3.5 yrs by the time i take up the course). Also have international experience due to the nature of the business...

Query: -

I would like to know if the above profile of mine can negate the effects of a low GMAT score on my application if i have fairl good essays. Is it worth applying with this score or will i be better off if i reappear for the GMAT... although..am extremely low on confidence after getting a low score inspite of preparing well...

As again my friend ..... I would say your Profile is Good .... but Not "excellent" .... Excellent would have been you started that export business and took it to next level in just 2.5 yrs .....
So, It cant shadow your GMAT Score ...... And in my opinion ... even "excellent" profiles need some GMAT Score for their Application to be considered!
Just put urself in place of Adcom and you will realise .... Adcom doesnt even read applications if GMAT scores are lower beyond a level .... they belive if he is good .... he can do better .... Your Profile is considered only after the GMAT score .... Though GMAT is not the only important thing .... It is a very important thing of your Application!
There is another reason which goes behind this ..... See the funda behind GMAT is .... its a preliminary test for any college to make sure you have necessary skills to take up a course like MBA .... which requires serious mathematical and Analytical skills ..... Once they are sure u have it good enuff they look at other parts of ur profile :)

abhi... nuthing can negate a 500 odd score.

retake the gmat. end of story.

Hello ppl,

reading all your posts has provided me wit good valuable info...

however i have a few queries with regard to 2007 intakes: -

I have taken up GMaTand got a BAD score of 540.??:

Do i even stand a chance in any good University ( RSM, MBS, NUS, etc.) with such a score.

MY Profile: -
Academics + Extra Curicullars: -

I have a decent Academic record ( GPA 3.4 - app. 84 - 85% in my BBM) and hols a rank from the Bangalore University. My extra - curicullars are good and have an all round achievement award from the College for the same.

Work Ex: -

I am curerently working in my family owned export venture and will complete 2.5 yrs by Oct 2006 (app. 3.5 yrs by the time i take up the course). Also have international experience due to the nature of the business...

Query: -

I would like to know if the above profile of mine can negate the effects of a low GMAT score on my application if i have fairl good essays. Is it worth applying with this score or will i be better off if i reappear for the GMAT... although..am extremely low on confidence after getting a low score inspite of preparing well...

inquizitive| Says

1. I have a 1 yr gap in my education i.e. after 12th and before engg. I have a decent family business so can I show to the ADCOM that I was involved in that during that period although I wasn't.Will this give a boost to my resume?

my take, dont lie. coz if they find it out in some way, then you are in trouble. if you are confident that you will be able to hide it, then go ahead

|inquizitive Says

2. There are certain certifications given by National Stock Exchange.Will having them on the resume , be of any help?Does it matter to the ADCOM

definitely, these extra achievements always matter

Hi All , This is Ashish
Here is my profile:
Xth : 87 %
Xth : 84 %
B. Tech from IIT with poor acads but decent extra-curricular activities.
currently working in IT industry in a bangalore based MNC,total experience of 2 yrs till now.I can manage decent recos and i am also aiming for ISB 2007.
I have few questions to ask.
1. I have a 1 yr gap in my education i.e. after 12th and before engg.
I have a decent family business so can I show to the ADCOM that I was involved in that during that period although I wasn't.Will this give a boost to my resume?
2. There are certain certifications given by National Stock Exchange.Will having them on the resume , be of any help?Does it matter to the ADCOM
It will be really helpful if some one can answer them.
Thanks

Hi Guys
I'm new to this forum and thought abt getting in touch wid all u ppl here.
My profile goes as:
B.Tech IITM elec(2004) cgpa 8.5
Work Ex: 2yrs now, 3yrs by fall '07. In telecom domain, mostly embedded development.
GMAT: 750+
Extra Cirri: Not much apart from being my hostel secy. and insti football team member.
Thinking of applying to Stan, Sloan, Stern and Ross.
Haven't done any serious research yet. Fearing if its too late.

Can anyone answer one query too : R professional consultants of any real help to get to the top schools?
And anyone who can give me a contact in mumbai for such a consultant.

Thanx:)

Hi PPL,

I am going to ISB Campus Info Session tommorow... fire me any Q's pertaining to ISB.

Thankx
Azeem

Hey gys,

I want to start a thread for all the ppl interested in applying to 'firang' unvs. next yr..............I wud appreciate all the responces from u ppl. .........specifying ur specific questions and answers.........

Please give suggestions to me too........as I am primarily looking for one yr MBA.
The factors of considerations r........

1)Brand name
2)ROI......
3)Placements
4)Chances of selection.

My profile is :

AGE :25. 26y the time I join( hopefully)
EDU: B Tech; NIT/REC,Bhopal.(2003), 72 %.Loads of extra curriculars.....sports ,tech,cultural
WORK EX: IT total 3 yrs..total.......(3.5 or 4 by the time I join....July)
HCL Tech..... Software engineer........fresher to till Jan 06........
Sterling Commerce( AT&T; ) .......Delivery Consultant........currelty........total 3 yrs so far.
GMAT: 730.

PREF: 1yr MBA........2 will do......but inclined towards 1 yr.Primarily europe.....
COLLEGES UNDER CONSIDERATION: 1) INSEAD 2)IMD 3)LBS 4)Oxford 5) 6)RSM 7)ISB ....................NUS ............

NUS is a distant third..............Please also throw light on NUS placements............backed by facts or personla info............no 'overheard' talks please..........

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Frankly you need to decide where do you see yourself post your Masters. There has to be clarity in that - decide , what aspires you and then look at school.

Looking at your profile suggest you look at programs like :
1 / MBA Programs which are Technology Intensive - good for Tech onsulting careers
2 / Techno MBA Programs - good for IT Consulting careers
3 / Programs in Policy - Technology Policy , Public Policy and Administration
4 / Regular plain jane MBA Programs.

Once you have gone through the pros and cons - then look at a right fit program. I did aspire for an MBA , 650 GMAT , 7 years of work ex with ThyssenKrupp but later i realised the MPhil program in Industry , Strategy & Organisation at Judge - Cambridge is what fits in my career profile. So am going for it.

Hope this helps.

amitnsitian Says

wheres' that?

Heloooooo Amit Paaji,

here is the link for the same http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/b-school-discussions-mba-abroad/16781-b-school-deadlines.html

Thankx

Azeem

nagpalkunal Says

Started a separate thread for this

wheres' that?

NUS will open in October.

Haas essays are out but not the application

Started a separate thread for this

NUS will open in October.

Haas essays are out but not the application

May be we can start talking about Applications and Deadlines

Anything apart from ISB in pipeline?

All righty...........

So, our thread has been lying down in the dirt lane for too long time to put some life into it!

Its high time that most of us start deciding on our coleges of chaoice...........TO keep this in mind ,let's post the admit dates for 'European Colls.' on this thread..............The reason being that most of the ppl r in any case aware fo the US dates............And also, there is another thread for the same................
SO. European Colleges + June/Aug 07 sessions.............Please post here.........

In US schools website, they write in separate columns the base salary, the sign on bonus and the year end guaranteed bonus. All the figures are pre-tax figures.

POSTED THE SAME QUERY ELSEWHERE...BUT WILL POST HERE TOO.

are the salaries mentioned on the websites of schools and else where the IN-HAND salaries? what i mean is... if they say 100,000 does that mean 100 g or 60 g post tax? and does that 100 g even mean 100..or is it like 60 plus other perks and a damned 40 percent tax on that 60??

uk/us/canada/australia ???

Your Final Chance to gain Gyaan on Foreign B schools..................
Hi http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/gmat-a...fin-aid-2.html (GMAT/B-Schools/Fin Aid/Visas Etc Gyan Meet in Delhi in July)


Adios.

Thankx


Azeem & nagpalkunal

Abhimanyu...
Nice point raised by Rebecca here regarding the dreams....Yes..they are definitely achievable provided we ourselves believe in them and work towards achieving them..
Coming to your case ....my personal feeling is you definitely have a very good profile...(700 to go + diverse experience + xtra curriculars like yoga and all)...just need to bring all these points out in your essays...
Just to give everybody a feel about how dreams are realized...chk this out..
http://www.sree.net/stories/bt-gupta.html
thatsmereally

Abhimanyu,

I am not as knowledgeable as the Mods over here or for that matter many of the members of this forum, but from what I read from your post, I must say you have a very interesting profile and that I believe will be your key differentiator. Don't think that Harvard is not a realistic option, it is our prerogative to apply to whichever school we like, theirs to admit us...donot be afraid to dream big. :)

On your GMAT score, think it is quite good and donot think thats gonna pull you down. As far as the cost is concerned...tell me...which middle class Indian can afford the fees of any of these fabulous schools...but once you are admitted I am sure that there will be enough banks that will fall one on top of the other to give you loans, also if you have been admitted, no foreign school refuses admissions on financial grounds there are many scholarship programs for the same...therefore donot worry about finance.

Wish you all the very best in your efforts ... (may your dream of admission into Harvard come true:))

--Rebecca

hi frnds,

i am a newbie and this is my first mail to the forum, although I have been impressed and have learnt a lot from all the experts here, in last few weeks.
I'll give you my details and would like you guys to share some knowledge and experience to help me select the right programme.

I am 28 from Orissa....completed Bsc. in 2000.....married....no international exposure.......no international laguage......grades have been good only till 10th (icse), and in fifties after that.

I have worked for about 6 years, over 1 yr with a NGO involved in training and educating tribal and backward people in Orissa, also introduced computer training (i've have done microsoft certifications) in some village schools and have got some certificates from the state government also.

Then for over two years I managed my own business of a English Teaching Institute....where we also helped over 500 students to get good jobs, even in International call centers and BPOs in Hyderabad and Gurgaon.
Realising that i required more exposure and experience to expand the business and maintain high standards, I took a job in a Microsoft Tech support project with one of the biggest BPO companies, where I became the process trainer and left after 1.5 yrs.

An international MBA, and few years of job thereafter will help me make all weak links strong and then get into setting my educational institute in India. For my long term goals I want to take a course with entrepreneurship.
With this profile, can i hope to be awarded admission to a top MBA programme.
Though i dream of getting into Harward, I want a more realistic opinion from you guys. Some factors in mind are (in order of importance):
1. Cost. I don't have enough money to even fund my MBA in India. I can get a good loan from banks and also have relatives in the US who can give gaurantee/sponsorship.
2. Brand and placements.

Which will be the best options for me, and where can i have good chances of selection. I am open to move to any country. I have scored very less in Maths in 12th and graduation, can/should I take up any recognised course in Maths to cover that up and what additional can I do now, to increase my chances of selection.

I took GMAT recently and scored 700. I am also a certified Yoga trainer. During my start up, i also did a distance learning PGDBA course from Symbiosis,Pune, but that wasn't of much help. Currently, I have just joined a fulltime course in Vedanta, which is for one year, after which i plan to start with MBA. The guru here is very knowledgeable and has himself given discourses at top B-schools.

Thanks a lot and please don't block me for writing such a long mail.
Abhimanyu.

There are a host of other factors that I am looking at as well...what I meant was that Diversity tops the list :)....what are the points that you are looking for in the school, you aspire to be in?

--Rebecca

Point taken :)
My first priority is specillisation. I'm kind of undecided between 2 specialisations (fin and mark) and hence want my school to give me the options i want. Also, i'd like my school to build me a platform for my long long term goals (for which i need the school to gimme courses on General Mgmt and Entreneurship). Weird right but this is the most imp thing i'm looking for.

Then i want the school to have a right mix of case studies and lectures. then the school has to be in a city, for all my n/w needs. the schools needs to have a complete life (mix of acads, ECs, sports, social life etc).

finally, the school must gimme an option of getting a non-guaranteed loan :wow:

there migth be few others, these are the stuff that comes to my mind now.

Iday

just was wondering if there was one place where all gyan about US B schools is consolidated....( maybe that is hoping for the moon ;))...like Siddarth post...up higher in this thread that give a lot of info on B Schools the world over.
--Rebecca

and that is what some fellows are planning by way of a gyan meet. a link to the thread exists but the response has been pretty lacklustre till now.
having another brainwave..........will update on the thread

Cheers

Kunal

iday Says

It is a given in these schools - u shud look for other factors that'd differentiate the school from the others

There are a host of other factors that I am looking at as well...what I meant was that Diversity tops the list :)....what are the points that you are looking for in the school, you aspire to be in?

--Rebecca

LOL..:) ...I quite agree, but it is just that I seem to get only "in-between inspirations" :)...tis something like digging for gold...you keep digging till you hit a streak.:)

Unlike diggin for gold, here u know that at sometime u r gonna hit the streak so - the sooner u hit the depths, the better!!!

Diversity is key for me, both in the student body and the faculty...I learn more from people than from books :).....anyways will keep looking ...like Iday says "till I find the perfect match" ;)

As far as i've seen, diversity is something on which the US schools are proud with. It isnt a big differentiator for me, if u're looking at the top notch schools. It is a given in these schools - u shud look for other factors that'd differentiate the school from the others.

Iday

iday Says

Inside u mate...Dig it up

LOL..:) ...I quite agree, but it is just that I seem to get only "in-between inspirations" :)...tis something like digging for gold...you keep digging till you hit a streak.:)

Anyways thanks for the tips...just was wondering if there was one place where all gyan about US B schools is consolidated....( maybe that is hoping for the moon ;))...like Siddarth post...up higher in this thread that give a lot of info on B Schools the world over.

Diversity is key for me, both in the student body and the faculty...I learn more from people than from books :).....anyways will keep looking ...like Iday says "till I find the perfect match" ;)

--Rebecca

Tell me about it, Abhi ??: ....Was in for a rude shock....thought that my English was ok...only to be proved wrong by GMAT english...have been reading up Princeton...and they very correctly say....GMAT english is not like the english that you and I speak......:neutral:

Anyways I am currently on Sentence Correction and am trying to get the nitty-gritties of misplaced modifiers, pronouns, apples and oranges and what not !!! :)

Rebecca - GMAT english is a strange challenge. It is quite different from the english u and me speak, to start with. It is infact a lot different from the english we even see in properly edited stuff like papers or books. GMAT English has its own structure and arrangements and the only way to tackle is to get used to it. If u keep working on it for some 2 months, u'll eventually get used to it

All of you,
I have asked this question in the one of the threads that I started but am posing it here as well because of the greater audience ;).....how do all of you finalise on the list of colleges you intend to apply to?

Would be happy to have answers

the answer to that question varies from person to person. get ur priorities listed and decide on what u'd want ur school to be. What'll be ur majors, sub majors, what kind of teaching methodology u prefer, what kind of location u want ur school to be, what kind of a spread u want the class to have etc etc etc. it is a huge list and factors migth get added to the list based on any special considerations u might have. So yeah - start looking for the ideal match :)

"Motivation! Where art Thou?"

Inside u mate...
Dig it up

Abhi_Insane Says

The English in GMAT is actually quite diff than CAT so it is of paramount imp to prepare for it.

Tell me about it, Abhi ??: ....Was in for a rude shock....thought that my English was ok...only to be proved wrong by GMAT english...have been reading up Princeton...and they very correctly say....GMAT english is not like the english that you and I speak......:neutral:

Anyways I am currently on Sentence Correction and am trying to get the nitty-gritties of misplaced modifiers, pronouns, apples and oranges and what not !!! :)

Hey Rajat....a BIG 'Amen' to all of us getting Rocking Scores

All of you,
I have asked this question in the one of the threads that I started but am posing it here as well because of the greater audience ;).....how do all of you finalise on the list of colleges you intend to apply to?

Would be happy to have answers

Cheers

--Rebecca

"Motivation! Where art Thou?"

Hi guys,
Nice to see all ur posts ....:satisfie:
I have been a regular visitor (didn't post much) at PG from last 1 year. I had applied to NUS last year. got dinged .
My profile is .....
Age - 25
Edu - B.E (Comp)
GMAT - 660
Acads - ok types
Exp - 3 yrs in IT
Extracurricular - nathing

After a lot & lot of deliberation have made up my mind to give it my final shot this yr (was thinking of executive MBA after some more exp )
anyways, i will try my best to share as much info as i can.....
i am sure all of u wil get ur dream admit
but for that we'll have to keep the spirits high... let's rock this thread !

Hi guys,
Nice to see all ur posts ....:satisfie:
I have been a regular visitor (didn't post much) at PG from last 1 year. I had applied to NUS last year. got dinged .
My profile is .....
Age - 25
Edu - B.E (Comp)
GMAT - 660
Acads - ok types
Exp - 3 yrs in IT
Extracurricular - nathing

After a lot & lot of deliberation have made up my mind to give it my final shot this yr (was thinking of executive MBA after some more exp )
anyways, i will try my best to share as much info as i can.....
i am sure all of u wil get ur dream admit
but for that we'll have to keep the spirits high... let's rock this thread !

Hey guys,

I think that u can stick to the preps for some time and the flow will come in. I think for any one of u ppl who might have had a shot at CAT,the majo rpart in English. The English in GMAT is actually quite diff than CAT so it is of paramount imp to prepare for it.

A max prep of dedicated prep for 1.5 -2 months shud do the trick !

WOW!!! Huge RELIEF!! I thought it's me whose been suffering from this.
Yeah, similar story. Work got very hectic with long days (and nights:) ). Now that it has setled a bit, I have come back to get some guidance from like minded folks.

I read a lot of Pagal Guy in the past 4 months. It is a little scary to see the amount of effort people have put into their preparation. Kudos to all!!! one uniI have been a member of other groups/mailing lists as well, but the overwhelming majority has always been us Indians.

Well, need to start some where or the other..... I got princeton about 6 months back. Have opened it ONCE!!:(
Now, that i am getting my feet wet again, I think this is the right time to take the final plunge as well.

Cheers to the future mates!!! Let's all plan to achieve rocking scores....

Rajat

Hey guys,

Facing the same problem....:neutral:.

Stick to it when you can. I guess it should work.

I suppose, tis like inblue says...just have to stick to prep...(Inertia problems ;), I think are common all around :))

--Rebecca

"Motivation, where art thou?"

Hi Everyone,
I passed out of Pune Uni in 04. BE (Comp Sc.) managed to end up in the top 5 of my batch.
Co Curriculars are decent/good.. Organized many techie events as well as cultural stuff. Have been member of a few organizations. Currently I am only left with co-editor of a bi-annual e-zine.

Currently in US, since 4 months. Rest of the time I was in Bangalore. Wanted to apply for this year, but a lot of reading left me baffled. Have been out of touch (NIRVAnA) for a few weeks now. Just wanted to gear up for the next year in real earnest..

I am looking for, as usual, the M7 apart from ISB and INSEAD.
They require a lot of experience. I doubt 3 years (by next year) would be enough for either. Let' see. Aiming for a 720+ score. I guess, that in itself is tough enough. Gave CAT when for fun in 2k4. Got around 90.

Need help in how to get started. I am not able to drag my motivation for long periods. Rather feel at home with shorter but very hetic bursts. Any suggestions from MODS and PG's on how to would be great

Thanks,
Rajat

Rajat,
eh ! experience, it think it would only matter at INSEAD (generally europe prefers older students). I was in your boat a month ago with my job going hectic and an unsual visitor called sickness. Just grabbed the princeton one day and managed to stick to it for a week( more out of awe). got bogged down by a heavy work fortnite after a week of princeton. Buddy i guess if you are working and outgoing the prep is going to be burtsty. Don worry..just try, things should fall in place. I did the cat in 2k4 as well but apparently no so wel in math, so i started my GMAT with the Quant section..

Stick to it when you can. I guess it should work.

best of luck to both of us
Cheers
inblue