Nasri is maybe running after money, but not Clichy. Arsenal were not too keen in extending his contract and he just chose the best option available to him.
Only a few would chose liverpool over mancity these days, so i guess he did what most would do.

can't believe Clichy left Arsenal for Man shity...I would have been much happier if he would have gone to Liverpool...But these player run after money...I can understand Fabregas situation but Nasri and Clichy are running after money...no team is going to give both players the play time that Arsenal offers...If you both don't have respect for club but for money instead you can leave....

hey madrid has joined the race with barca to get fabregas,and this would be great with btwo spanish giants fighting for one of spain stars let's see if anyone can get him.

Real Madrid join Barcelona in race to sign Arsenal?s Cesc Fabregas - report - Goal.com

It's goal dot com. Don't read too much into it mate. And secondly, after all the "want to be back home", "being catalan", and with all fellow mates in Barca, he would never join Madrid. He would rather stay at Arsenal. But, the whole cesc saga has become boring now.

Btw, Copa America has started, and both Brazil and Argentina have struggled in their opening game. Similar problems for both of 'em, lacked the creativity in the middle of the park. Hope they perform a better show in the next games. Looking forward to Uruguay's match now. The attack force of Suarez, Forlan, Cavani could be a joy to watch!

hey madrid has joined the race with barca to get fabregas,and this would be great with btwo spanish giants fighting for one of spain stars let's see if anyone can get him.

Real Madrid join Barcelona in race to sign Arsenal?s Cesc Fabregas - report - Goal.com

ravishankar.lal Says

yaar m also staying in andheri west...tell me where do you guys practise

buddy i said that i and "pahari dude" are in indian institute of forest management.bhopal

govind tiwari Says

sorry for the absence in the forum, i have joined iifm and we have got new hostel so it will take a week to internet get installed there............and another die hard liverpool supporter(like me) on this forum "PAHARI DUDE" is also with me.he is living in room adjacent to me,we both have joined iifm football team and we practice daily,we will be having lots of matches this year against other colleges,so very excited about it.

yaar m also staying in andheri west...tell me where do you guys practise

sorry for the absence in the forum, i have joined iifm and we have got new hostel so it will take a week to internet get installed there............and another die hard liverpool supporter(like me) on this forum "PAHARI DUDE" is also with me.he is living in room adjacent to me,we both have joined iifm football team and we practice daily,we will be having lots of matches this year against other colleges,so very excited about it.

Sunderland have confirmed the signing of Connor Wickham. The 6'3" 18-year-old - rated as one of the country's brightest talents - has moved from Ipswich Town for a fee of 8m, with the potential to rise to 12m over the course of the contract, depending on a number of factors.

Rumors are Gervinho has passes his medical at Arsenal. RUMORS though. Nothing confirmed as of now it seems.

Also, Thiago Alcantara has been offered a new contract which will keep him till 2015 with a buy out clause of 90m.

Official: Blackpool sign former Manchester United player Bojan Djordjic

This is just a clear indication for liverpool fans to await their 2nd summer signing in form of midfield player Charlie Adam enjoy!!

It is Official

Manutd sign David De Gea
summer spending goes over 50m

GGMU

samra1 Says

Bad news for United fans as Raphael Varane has agreed to a move to Real Madrid........

Varane has already signed for madrid.
due to acquisition of jones this was going to happen coz we have smalling and evans also.

positve: jones being english player and due to strong rivalry between top 5 clubs in EPL, at later stage for him in his career he would have few options only to consider, so might as well as give his best years at utd

negative: jones fee too high than varane and though the former has pl experience ,whether he will excel at top club only remains to be seen and hence his acquisition is a bit risky

Bad news for United fans as Raphael Varane has agreed to a move to Real Madrid........

samra1 Says

Yar don't get me wrong but nobody considers Liverpool a big fish in transfer market.

It was the case with the old owners, but not anymore I guess. The new owners "FSG" are very shrewd and will spend big bucks if necessary. Although, they will do that, only if they feel if it's worth it, i.e on young talent, which can have good financial returns.
I do agree, that Carroll and Henderson were overpriced, but that's the case with English players. Only time will tell if they were worth the amount.

Liverpool's transfer hunts have traditionally been "Statistically Driven". The club gives huge impetus on a player's records, stuff like age/nationality etc
And once the target is identified, we sometimes go to astronomical limits to secure our deals.

This is very unlike United transfer procedures. As much as I hate to say this, United have the best scouting talent in world football at the moment. They just spot raw talent before anyone else spots them and before we realize he's a legend. I can't help but quote Chicharito here. What a deal!

I think whenever united sell him, if they do, he'll make the list on costliest transfers in footballing history.

samra1 Says

Yar don't get me wrong but nobody considers Liverpool a big fish in transfer market.

I agree that like man utd, liverpool are not considered big fish. but the fact is that when they go for particular player,they end up spending very high many a times, unlike arsenal who will never go beyond a particular limit that wenger sees in a player, no matter what happens

i have heardly ever heard goalkeepers being paid so much amount of money for their transfer.

Liverpool are in state of transition and to renew their old magic, they are in the market for great players. Look for yourself caroll at 35m, henderson 20m. these players do not deserve that much amount, but when liverpool really go after a player they too end up spending huge if necessary

De Gea undergoing United medical
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manutd spending spree to go beyond 50 million.
Just when big fish namely city, chelsea, maybe liverpool( coz they bought henderson but they have some more signings to make) are about to enter the market, manutd have done their business ( almost done.. )

Yar don't get me wrong but nobody considers Liverpool a big fish in transfer market.

De Gea undergoing United medical
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manutd spending spree to go beyond 50 million.
Just when big fish namely city, chelsea, maybe liverpool( coz they bought henderson but they have some more signings to make) are about to enter the market, manutd have done their business ( almost done.. )

Even I am wishing the same regarding Ando.

He has lots of skill. He can shield the ball well and run with it( something that we missed with old scholes, fletcher and carrick)

pple ask us about Scholes and Giggs replacement well we did it long time ago in Anderson and Nani.. Young is coming as Park's replacement as Park has 1-2 yrs left in him at top level..!!


Its time for Anderson to step up his game..!!

Neymar linked with madrid
Neymar ,benzema and ronaldo will kill MVP next season .

Even I am wishing the same regarding Ando.

He has lots of skill. He can shield the ball well and run with it( something that we missed with old scholes, fletcher and carrick)

Well if u ask me SAF is building a gr8 squad with top talent n great bench strength as well as future..!!

4-4-1-1

------------------------------De Gea/Lindegaard

--Rafael/Fabio/Evans------Vidic/Jones-----Rio/Smalling/Evans-----Fabio/Evra


----------Fletcher/Carrick/Jones------Anderson/Giggs/....???(Modric)

----Valencia/Nani/Cleverley-------------------------------Park/Nani/Young

-------------------------Rooney/Young/Cleverley

-------------------------------------Hernandez/Rooney/Welbeck



Man Utd Young brigade


---------------------------De Gea(20)/Lindegaard(26)

----Rafael(20)-----Jones(19)/Evans(23)-------Smalling(21)-------Fabio(20)

---------Anderson(23)/Tunnicliffe(1----------Pogba(1

------Nani(24)/Cleverley(21)---------------------Cleverley(21)/Morrison(1

---------Welbeck(20)/Macheda(19)-------Hernandez(23)/Diouf(23)

Add Joshua King , Will Keane to Strikers list plus Blackett as LB.. He is 17 or 18 and already 6 feet plus Valencia and Young are just 25 only so they are gonna be around for a while too..!! Fletcher is 27 too so he is gonna be there too for 3 yrs atleast..!!


We look set for next 5-8 yrs with a little bit of twitching and fine tuning to this young brigade..!!

Bring on our Youth Give them a chance to Welbeck , Cleverely, Anderson , Jones they wnt dissapoint i m sure..!!

P.S. Is this gonna be Anderson's season..?? Well make or break time for him at Utd..!! he luks good but not for full 90 mins needs to work on his fitness and have an injury free season bcz he does possess the skill n ability as Ronaldinho as he was once touted as a new Ronaldinho...!!

?Ricardo Alvarez Has Already Signed For Arsenal? ? Palermo President Maurizio Zamparini - Goal.com

Who would ever turn down Arsenal for Palermo..??

Arsenal's big summer spending starts..!! Many more to come keep waiting..!!

60+ M..!! nope..!! Nt even Merceneries wud pay that for him..!! Well no offence thats Arsenal n its fans valuation so nothing wrongs in it..!! He is not that gud ask few Gunners fans here too.. He is injury prone + goes missing in big games thats a big big negative..!!

Why nt play players who want to play for ur club who has passion n luv for the Gunners..!! Fabregas lacks it at times..!!



---------------------Scezzney/ Steklenberg

---Sagna------Samba/Koschielny------Vermaelen/Djourou-----Baines/Enrique

------------Wilshere/Ramsey----------Parker or Barton/Song

-------------------------Nasri/Willian

---Gervinho/Alvarez----------------------------Arshavin/Walcott

----------------------RvP/Chamakh


Hw abut this team next season considering if Arsenal lose Fabregas..??
Looks good to me..even if they get 35-40 M for Fabregas + 6-8 M for Clichy + 8 M for Bendtner + 8 M for Denilson

Money in= 60-65 M

Players in= Gervinho , Alvarez , Samba , Baines , Parker/Barton , Willian and Steklenberg = 60-70 M well spent

P.S. I like the above team..!! ur opinions Gunners..??

I am not saying that it is his market value, but if we ask man city or real madrid he could be yours for 60m, they would not have second thought.
Ronaldo went for 80m, Kaka for 50m, these were not there market values, but the value paid a club to buy a top player of another top club.

My team for next year would be

Szczesny
Sagna Samba/Kos Vermaelen/Djourou Vermaelen/Enrique
Parker/Song
Wilshere/Ramsey Nasri/Hazard
Walcott/Alvarez or costa RVP/Benzema/Chamakh Arshavin/Hazard/Nasri

Or maybe 4-4-2

Szczesny
Sagna Samba/Kos Vermaelen/Djourou Vermaelen/Enrique
Wilshere/Ramsey/Nasri/Song
Walcott/Alvarez or Costa Arshavin/Hazard/Nasri
Rvp/Chamakh
Benzema/RVP

60+ M..!! nope..!! Nt even Merceneries wud pay that for him..!! Well no offence thats Arsenal n its fans valuation so nothing wrongs in it..!! He is not that gud ask few Gunners fans here too.. He is injury prone + goes missing in big games thats a big big negative..!!

Why nt play players who want to play for ur club who has passion n luv for the Gunners..!! Fabregas lacks it at times..!!



---------------------Scezzney/ Steklenberg

---Sagna------Samba/Koschielny------Vermaelen/Djourou-----Baines/Enrique

------------Wilshere/Ramsey----------Parker or Barton/Song

-------------------------Nasri/Willian

---Gervinho/Alvarez----------------------------Arshavin/Walcott

----------------------RvP/Chamakh


Hw abut this team next season considering if Arsenal lose Fabregas..??
Looks good to me..even if they get 35-40 M for Fabregas + 6-8 M for Clichy + 8 M for Bendtner + 8 M for Denilson

Money in= 60-65 M

Players in= Gervinho , Alvarez , Samba , Baines , Parker/Barton , Willian and Steklenberg = 60-70 M well spent

P.S. I like the above team..!! ur opinions Gunners..??

Cesc is certainly not worth 60 million but no less than 40 also. Most of the team right now need a player like Cesc e.g. Chelsea,Utd.,AC Milan,Juventus,Barcelona(as backup mainly) and Man City as always. Had it been open auction he would have easily fetched us 50+. I don't agree with the point that he goes missing in big games. He was very good against Milans, against Barcelona(home),Chelsea(home and away this season). Nevertheless, his boot is too big to fill for Arsene. Nasri is not half Cesc in middle, his best has come for us in right wing.
heard that Everton has rejected Jagielka bid from one of the big teams. So it has to be City or us. I would love to Phil in Arsenal as he is far better than Cahill. For me ideal squad is:-
Sagna--Jagielka/Koscielny--Djourou/Samba--Enrique/Vermalean
Ramsey/Sisokkho--Wilshere/Ramsey--Song/Matuidi
Nasri/Theo--RVP/Chamakh--Alvarez/Gervinho
Out:-Denilson(for anything),Squillaci(for anything),Bendtner(10+),Fabregas(40+),Clichy(8+)
I am gutted to see Lansbury not been given opportunity at Arsenal. In all u-21 games that I saw, he was better than henderson.

If we put Fabregas for sale, i bet we could fetch 60m+ for him. He is that good. He is captain of one of the biggest club in World, X, is usually among top 1-3 in assists list of EPL, scores a lot of goals, how could his market value be less than 40m. Thats ridiculous really.
Barca is using his love for Catalonia as a bait for negotiation with arsenal, and that is the only reason they want to buy him. IMO, they dont need him coz, though Xavi is getting older but i dont think he will start regressing until next few years. This is based on assumption that Players who rely on technical ability tend to have long careers than those who rely more on Physical attributes like Pace, Acceleration, agility etc.
This is the Same Barca which paid 60m for Ibra and 35m for Villa are now offering 27m for Fabregas. I think this is disrespecting for any team.

And onto Sanchez, he is not a 50m player, could fetch 30-35m, but never more than Fabregas.

60+ M..!! nope..!! Nt even Merceneries wud pay that for him..!! Well no offence thats Arsenal n its fans valuation so nothing wrongs in it..!! He is not that gud ask few Gunners fans here too.. He is injury prone + goes missing in big games thats a big big negative..!!

Why nt play players who want to play for ur club who has passion n luv for the Gunners..!! Fabregas lacks it at times..!!



---------------------Scezzney/ Steklenberg

---Sagna------Samba/Koschielny------Vermaelen/Djourou-----Baines/Enrique

------------Wilshere/Ramsey----------Parker or Barton/Song

-------------------------Nasri/Willian

---Gervinho/Alvarez----------------------------Arshavin/Walcott

----------------------RvP/Chamakh


Hw abut this team next season considering if Arsenal lose Fabregas..??
Looks good to me..even if they get 35-40 M for Fabregas + 6-8 M for Clichy + 8 M for Bendtner + 8 M for Denilson

Money in= 60-65 M

Players in= Gervinho , Alvarez , Samba , Baines , Parker/Barton , Willian and Steklenberg = 60-70 M well spent

P.S. I like the above team..!! ur opinions Gunners..??

To me it is humiliating considering Fabregas' ability..!! 27 M + Thiago mite have been a lot better and maybe tempting too..!!

Maybe a 35 M mite clinch the deal as Arsenal are only asking for 45 M..

Actually why shud they when the player wants to leave but isnt forcing a hand but still he is only barca bound in future so even if they dnt get him this summer he is like a Barca's FD in Arsenal's locker..!!

Sanchez deal still hangs on as Barca wud like to get Fabregas 1st nw as Pozzo is asking for a ridiculous sum for Sanchez and Jeffren isnt interested in moving to Udinese..!!

Pozzo says Fab is 40 M den Sanchez is worth 50 M.. Do u think so that Sanchez is worth more than Fabregas in transfer market forget abt being Barca bound etc..!!

P.S. will u pay 40 M for Sanchez..?? I wnt I would say to Pozzo 28 M is max i m gving u take it or leave it or go to hell..!! He is auctioning a player like a commodity..If Sanchez wants a move i guess he will have to hand in a transfer request to get Pozzo's asking price down a bit..

If we put Fabregas for sale, i bet we could fetch 60m+ for him. He is that good. He is captain of one of the biggest club in World, X, is usually among top 1-3 in assists list of EPL, scores a lot of goals, how could his market value be less than 40m. Thats ridiculous really.
Barca is using his love for Catalonia as a bait for negotiation with arsenal, and that is the only reason they want to buy him. IMO, they dont need him coz, though Xavi is getting older but i dont think he will start regressing until next few years. This is based on assumption that Players who rely on technical ability tend to have long careers than those who rely more on Physical attributes like Pace, Acceleration, agility etc.
This is the Same Barca which paid 60m for Ibra and 35m for Villa are now offering 27m for Fabregas. I think this is disrespecting for any team.

And onto Sanchez, he is not a 50m player, could fetch 30-35m, but never more than Fabregas.

So Barca has made an offer of 27m for Fabregas,
Its defamatory, ain't it?

To me it is humiliating considering Fabregas' ability..!! 27 M + Thiago mite have been a lot better and maybe tempting too..!!

Maybe a 35 M mite clinch the deal as Arsenal are only asking for 45 M..

Actually why shud they when the player wants to leave but isnt forcing a hand but still he is only barca bound in future so even if they dnt get him this summer he is like a Barca's FD in Arsenal's locker..!!

Sanchez deal still hangs on as Barca wud like to get Fabregas 1st nw as Pozzo is asking for a ridiculous sum for Sanchez and Jeffren isnt interested in moving to Udinese..!!

Pozzo says Fab is 40 M den Sanchez is worth 50 M.. Do u think so that Sanchez is worth more than Fabregas in transfer market forget abt being Barca bound etc..!!

P.S. will u pay 40 M for Sanchez..?? I wnt I would say to Pozzo 28 M is max i m gving u take it or leave it or go to hell..!! He is auctioning a player like a commodity..If Sanchez wants a move i guess he will have to hand in a transfer request to get Pozzo's asking price down a bit..

So Barca has made an offer of 27m for Fabregas,
Its defamatory, ain't it?

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Read this certainly looks a gud team with lot of world class players..!!

Raul Meireles 'up for sale as Liverpool name Juventus their price' | Metro.co.uk

Hw can tabloids publish such crap stories.. !! If its true n happens over the course of summer then what Daglish is upto God knws and God save Liverpool then..!!

Is replacing Meireles with Charlie the Adam the idea..?? I would not want that..!!

Get 2 Wingers , 1 LB and for 1st team plus a cover squad CB n GK..

If Alexis Sanchez Joins Barcelona, Real Madrid Will Not Win Anything Next Year - Udinese's Giampaolo Pozzo - Goal.com

Pozzo is a real idiotic muppet..!! Now he says Sanchez is worth 50 M Euros..!! He will keep dragging it whole summer..!!

Why i m saying all this bcz we all knew Chelsea interest was firm in Jan transfer window and samra 1 wnt like to hear it but i have inside info from an Editor Chelsea reps had meeting with Sanchez reps in Monaco and personal terms and ervything was finalised and then came Pozzo saying loan him back to us for 1.5 season too..!! that ended the Chelsea interest n discussion dere itself..!!

Barca wnt pay 50 M Euros for him..!!

P.S. He is a real pain in neck to deal with and so are Udinese..!!

http://http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2011/Jun/ashley-young-joins-manchester-united.aspx

I m loving it..!! Most Man Utd fans wont but i think its a good addition to squad.. Rem Valencia when at Wigan and nw at Man Utd.. I think that will be the case with Young too plus he offers sumthing different like good set pieces plus nice crosses from left.. Though he is right footed but can play very well on left wing too..

It will help Utd's away games form a lot if we cud get few goals from set pieces and Free kicks..!!

In a gud team with better players he looks twice the player at Villa i.e at Eng national team..!!

P.S. Jones + Young at 30 M or Andy Carroll for 35 M..? SAF is a genius when it comes to spending each n evry penny..!!

Fabreagas does play a more attacking role like Iniesta but eventually he will become a a complete CM alike Xavi..!! I can see him emulating Xavi and Thiago replacing Iniesta in future..

Or perhaps when Iniesta gets into 30s he may take over Xavi's role of possession football and a more playmakers role int he middle and Fab to play more attacking role making runs up n down the pitch as a connecting link bw Messi/Villa and Iniesta so if u ask me Barca need Fabreags more than Sanchez..!!

ashish13dec is rite on the mark..!!

Agree with you on this part. Could very much be possible. Barca actually don't have a lot of squad depth if you ask me. IMO, both Cesc and Sanchez are essential. Sanchez/Rossi more so, as Villa/Messi/Pedro are the only options upfront with jeffren rumoured to be loaned/sold. Also, the way Villa and Pedro played last two months was a worrying factor, as Messi was the only source of goals then. The youth is pretty good, but you can't rely on them to play week in week out. They'll need time to step up.

I disagree completely, Barca dont need Cesc, right now, he may not even start every match.
But they do need Sanchez and Rossi. With Bojan leaving they need another striker,
and in Sanchez they have a better alternative to Pedro. Sanchez would start ahead of Pedro

Whose gonna cover for an injured Xavi at 31..? I m sure u cnt expect him to play evrey game and with Iniesta also injury prone.. He will get 15-20 starts plus subs 10-15 apperances.. They need Rossi more if they are selling Bojan..!! Sanchez is a RW and a Support striker.. Sanchez will rotate with Villa and Pedro not a sure shot XI starter..

Will u want to throw a player coming from diff league straight on playing XI from game 1.. No manager will do that.. He Will get games gradually more n more..!!

If you are saying Nani is 1.5 times the player Sanchez, then i guess there is no point arguing, except that sanchez will be starter for Barca next season, and as Nani is 1.5 times Sanchez then it means he too could start for Barca...which ofcource is not possible.
If you really want to compare these two players ask any non-ManU fan, who would he take among these two players.

Are mere bhai i said on current level Nani is ahead of Sanchez but Nani has reached his peak as for me but Sanchez hasnt..!!he ahs more potential than Nani Plus Sanchez has better attitude than Nani who at time becomes selfish.. Pura to pado karo bhai..!! Watch Italian league its really shit n slow compared to EPL.. ASk any football fan he will say that u cnt compare goals n assists stats of two players in Italian league and EPL and Nani has more asissts and goals than Sanchez in almost equal no. of matches

The most closest league to EPL in terms of Physical nature of game is Bundesliga

Which McEacheran are you talking about??
Chelsea's 17 yr old McEacheran??
who is at Chelsea from age of 9.
and when did ManU missed out on him??
I think he was never available.

I would like to add one more think, if that Ryan 'thug' Shawcross had not broken Ramsey's leg, Wilshere would never have crossed Ramsey in the pecking list. Wilshere is a big talent, Ramsey is even bigger, you will see this in coming seasons, and both are a lot better than McEacheran, who is yet to break in England U21's.

I dnt knw if McEacheran joined at he age of 9..!! i m sure he was more than 9 when he joined Chelsea but he did came to Man Utd on kinda trials and we were reluctant to get him into academy as there were already many youth players in the academy who we thought will make the cut if they progress well.!! plus theres a limit to no. of Youth Players u can have in ur academy

We were his first choice to be honest but then Chelsea came and offered him a position in their academy as youth dev and he accepted..!!

Wilshere wasnt a Man Utd fan wen a kid but McEacheran was and he came to Man Utd first and i knw that for sure.. thats why i said we missed out on him..!!

I agree with you regarding ramsey. Ramsey=Younger Cesc in the way he plays.

oops !! double post

It is on manutd website Manchester United Official Web Site
Man Utd have signed ashley young

njoy

ASk me Barca dnt even need Sanchez in reality..!! Better they shud sign Rossi and Fabregas..

I disagree completely, Barca dont need Cesc, right now, he may not even start every match.
But they do need Sanchez and Rossi. With Bojan leaving they need another striker,
and in Sanchez they have a better alternative to Pedro. Sanchez would start ahead of Pedro

Nani i admit at times can be frustrating with his decision making in the final third no doubt abt it and yes Sanchez does offers sumthing different to Nani to Man Utd but still Nani at present is 1.5 times the player Sanchez is rite nw but Sanchez has more potential as a player to develop his game..

If you are saying Nani is 1.5 times the player Sanchez, then i guess there is no point arguing, except that sanchez will be starter for Barca next season, and as Nani is 1.5 times Sanchez then it means he too could start for Barca...which ofcource is not possible.
If you really want to compare these two players ask any non-ManU fan, who would he take among these two players.

raisonar is right Wilshere joined Arsenal at the age of 9.. If u really wanna knw whom Man Utd missed out yes it was Ramsey too but it was Josh McEacheran despite him being a Man Utd fan and i have been told he used to go with his mum to every Utd game he can as a kid.. missing out on Josh McEacheran was more devastating as he is the man who plays close to Wilshere at U-20 level..!! he hs bags of potential and talent as Wilshere.. I love this kid McEacheran play as much i have seen him..!!

Which McEacheran are you talking about??
Chelsea's 17 yr old McEacheran??
who is at Chelsea from age of 9.
and when did ManU missed out on him??
I think he was never available.

I would like to add one more think, if that Ryan 'thug' Shawcross had not broken Ramsey's leg, Wilshere would never have crossed Ramsey in the pecking list. Wilshere is a big talent, Ramsey is even bigger, you will see this in coming seasons, and both are a lot better than McEacheran, who is yet to break in England U21's.

Messy_19 Says

He's not going to be Xavi's replacement. Neither would Fabregas be. I guess after Xavi retires, Iniesta and Cesc/Thiago will have to keep on exchanging that holding role as and when required during the game, with both having freedom to move forward. And mind you all of 'em are good at it, albeit they are more attacking.

Fabreagas does play a more attacking role like Iniesta but eventually he will become a a complete CM alike Xavi..!! I can see him emulating Xavi and Thiago replacing Iniesta in future..

Or perhaps when Iniesta gets into 30s he may take over Xavi's role of possession football and a more playmakers role int he middle and Fab to play more attacking role making runs up n down the pitch as a connecting link bw Messi/Villa and Iniesta so if u ask me Barca need Fabreags more than Sanchez..!!

ashish13dec is rite on the mark..!!

Firstly, Wilshere is with Arsenal from the age of 9. U must me confusing him with Aaron Ramsey, and the biggest reason he came to arsenal was that ManU choose Neville to show him around, any, any other player and he would have been yours :p:p

Secondly, Sanchez is a top top player. Nani is not in his league. Reason why ManU is not pursuing this transfer aggressively is more financial than any other.

U are wrong mate..!! We did bid for Sanchez in Jan 2010 around 12 M but Udinese rejected the offer plus SAF has followed the guy for 6-7 yrs nw..

Why are Barca not going with a bid equal to Man City then mate if its financial reason..!! u can never hold SAF and AW for ransom in transfers remember that..!! they will walk over..!!

ASk me Barca dnt even need Sanchez in reality..!! Better they shud sign Rossi and Fabregas.. Plus Rossi deal is off for this year as the diff bw Villareal demanding and Barca offering are way apart..!! i dnt see a deal being done when u offer 15-18 M and asking price is 30+ M for a player.. thats a huge diff..!

Udinese are demanding or holding for best deal n do u really think he is worth 40 M rite nw then u r wrong.. he is only worth 25 M max..
Nani is in a league above him if u ask me rite nw..!! watch the Italian league see both of their stats for last season for no. of assist and goals in no. of matches played they will speak themselves..
Plus most goals Sanchez gt in that poor n slow Italian league was as a Support Striker to Antonio Di Natale nt as a winger.. Nani i admit at times can be frustrating with his decision making in the final third no doubt abt it and yes Sanchez does offers sumthing different to Nani to Man Utd but still Nani at present is 1.5 times the player Sanchez is rite nw but Sanchez has more potential as a player to develop his game..

P.S. i will quote the stats if u want..!! plus i m a big fan of Sanchez saying all this..!!

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adding my 2 cents about sanchez saga

Sir alex knows the potential of sanchez and so would love to have him but with nani performing as well especially last year, he might not pursue him aggressively as he did with jones. But one thing is for sure that he will never let him go to any other premier league club especially likes of city( 3rd team chasing sanchez) who can then with arrival of sanchez become really strong.If need be then Sir Alex will buy him and offload Nani to Bayern or Milan.

Similarly Barca are also not to keen to acquire sanchez because they have many good players in their bench waiting for their opportunity.Plus their playing style doesn't make use of wing play as much and so buying someone for 30m might not be on their agenda since they have Fabregas to go for also. but at the same time they know that sanchez for them can be used like madrid's ronaldo in future

the biggest mistake manutd made in recent years i believe is not sign wilshere.I know he chose arsenal but we should have been more aggressive. I heard that neville had shown wilshere entire manutd rather than someone like sir alex. He would be the perfect player for our problems. Not too aggressive neither to laid back, proper box-to-box midfield player.
Now go in transfer market for CM and spent millions and we may still be not satisfied.

raisonar is right Wilshere joined Arsenal at the age of 9.. If u really wanna knw whom Man Utd missed out yes it was Ramsey too but it was Josh McEacheran despite him being a Man Utd fan and i have been told he used to go with his mum to every Utd game he can as a kid.. missing out on Josh McEacheran was more devastating as he is the man who plays close to Wilshere at U-20 level..!! he hs bags of potential and talent as Wilshere.. I love this kid McEacheran play as much i have seen him..!!

WE dnt need to worry parthu_312 abt ur noisy neighbours as Kaka, Sanchez, CR7 all these players with a head and dignity will always snub a freak club like City's offers..!!

They will always be the 2nd best team and club in the city of Manchester..

Messy_19 Says

He's not going to be Xavi's replacement. Neither would Fabregas be. I guess after Xavi retires, Iniesta and Cesc/Thiago will have to keep on exchanging that holding role as and when required during the game, with both having freedom to move forward. And mind you all of 'em are good at it, albeit they are more attacking.

Nopes, Cesc has played as playmaker from deep like Xavi when he was there along with Flamini and I believe it was his best season for us. He is defensively far better than Iniesta and Thiago. Playing 4-3-3 with two attacking midfielders can be suicidal against teams with decent counterattack. For 4-3-3, you need one out and out CM & one BtoB midfielder. I don't think either Thiago and Iniesta can do CM cos. they have to check their natural attacking instinct.

Lens President has confirmed that Raphael Varane is set to join Real Madrid. Source : Football La Liga | Raphael Varane to join Real Madrid ESPNSTAR.com


Sir alex knows the potential of sanchez and so would love to have him but with nani performing as well especially last year, he might not pursue him aggressively as he did with jones. But one thing is for sure that he will never let him go to any other premier league club especially likes of city( 3rd team chasing sanchez) who can then with arrival of sanchez become really strong.If need be then Sir Alex will buy him and offload Nani to Bayern or Milan.

Similarly Barca are also not to keen to acquire sanchez because they have many good players in their bench waiting for their opportunity.Plus their playing style doesn't make use of wing play as much and so buying someone for 30m might not be on their agenda since they have Fabregas to go for also. but at the same time they know that sanchez for them can be used like madrid's ronaldo in future

the biggest mistake manutd made in recent years i believe is not sign wilshere.I know he chose arsenal but we should have been more aggressive. I heard that neville had shown wilshere entire manutd rather than someone like sir alex. He would be the perfect player for our problems. Not too aggressive neither to laid back, proper box-to-box midfield player.
Now go in transfer market for CM and spent millions and we may still be not satisfied.

Firstly, Wilshere is with Arsenal from the age of 9. U must me confusing him with Aaron Ramsey, and the biggest reason he came to arsenal was that ManU choose Neville to show him around, any, any other player and he would have been yours :p:p

Secondly, Sanchez is a top top player. Nani is not in his league. Reason why ManU is not pursuing this transfer aggressively is more financial than any other.

ashish13dec Says

Thiago from what I have seen is more of Iniesta than Xavi. He is better as attacking midfielder. I don't know why cules are seeing him as Xavi's replacement.

He's not going to be Xavi's replacement. Neither would Fabregas be. I guess after Xavi retires, Iniesta and Cesc/Thiago will have to keep on exchanging that holding role as and when required during the game, with both having freedom to move forward. And mind you all of 'em are good at it, albeit they are more attacking.

Lens President has confirmed that Raphael Varane is set to join Real Madrid. Source : Football La Liga | Raphael Varane to join Real Madrid ESPNSTAR.com

adding my 2 cents about sanchez saga

Sir alex knows the potential of sanchez and so would love to have him but with nani performing as well especially last year, he might not pursue him aggressively as he did with jones. But one thing is for sure that he will never let him go to any other premier league club especially likes of city( 3rd team chasing sanchez) who can then with arrival of sanchez become really strong.If need be then Sir Alex will buy him and offload Nani to Bayern or Milan.

Similarly Barca are also not to keen to acquire sanchez because they have many good players in their bench waiting for their opportunity.Plus their playing style doesn't make use of wing play as much and so buying someone for 30m might not be on their agenda since they have Fabregas to go for also. but at the same time they know that sanchez for them can be used like madrid's ronaldo in future

the biggest mistake manutd made in recent years i believe is not sign wilshere.I know he chose arsenal but we should have been more aggressive. I heard that neville had shown wilshere entire manutd rather than someone like sir alex. He would be the perfect player for our problems. Not too aggressive neither to laid back, proper box-to-box midfield player.
Now go in transfer market for CM and spent millions and we may still be not satisfied.

Messy_19 Says

Thiago, Adrian and Mata are in some form. If Thiago continues to play in this fashion, Barca won't need Cesc!!

Thiago from what I have seen is more of Iniesta than Xavi. He is better as attacking midfielder. I don't know why cules are seeing him as Xavi's replacement.

Well, looks like Bojan is going to sign a 4 year deal with AS Roma, with an option to buy him back in the first two years. Great deal IMO. Win-Win situation for Barca. He'll get playing time, which Barca cannot give him at this moment.
The thing with Sanchez transfer is, Jeffren doesn't want to be part of the deal. He prefers staying in spain. Barca are still under negotiations on all fronts-Sanchez, Cesc, and even Rossi and Mata are now options, if Sanchez deal doesn't materialize.

Btw, in other news, Spain U21 came back from behind to win the semis of Euros U21. They are in finals now. Thiago, Adrian and Mata are in some form. If Thiago continues to play in this fashion, Barca won't need Cesc!!

saurabh3074 Says

I m game for it....just that I am not aware of the rules...

Guyzz make an account on espn site and register urself for Fantasy Football Manager.. chose a team name and then pm me ur team name or mail id with which u registered urself..

I will make our PG fans own league..!!

Guyzz i have a suggestion can we all make our own PG fans league n play espn Fantasy Football Manager for 2011-12 season..!!

Hw about this..?


P.S. ur suggestions are welcum..!!

I m game for it....just that I am not aware of the rules...

As for Sanchez saga heres my update n personal opinion..


People need to think again if they think Man Utd are completely out of the Sanchez race. It seems Sanchez will only move to Manchester United or Barcelona. Sanchez has refused to speak to City, he is not interested in a City move. Barcelona have offered just 22m for Sanchez, they have even tried to get Udinese to accept players in the deal, but players have rejected a move to Udinese and Udinese want cash for the player.

I have heard two story's, one is that we have offered 25m and another is that we offered 27m. But it's understood we are Sanchez' second choice behind Barcelona. Lets hope Barcelona pull out and that would leave us in the running, as long as City don't bribe him with gold, I imagine he will keep snubbing them.

Udinese have confirmed we are one of four clubs that have made a bid for Sanchez, our bid is either 25m or 27m, either way we have made a bid and are still in the running. I still think he will end up in Barcelona, but while we are 'apparently' his second choice, we still have a chance. But more importantly, it proves we are still in for another winger as well as Young.


Well the man who cud spoil or decide all this show is AW.. If he prices Fabregas out of Barca's reach then they will up the bid for Sanchez.. Plus the reason they are trying to get Fabregas for cheap is nt just bcz of his desire to play for Barca but bcz Fab wnt move to any other club from Arsenal only if he moves its gonna be to Barca...So financialy n tacticaly speaking Barca are doing the rite or smart thing by offering only 30-35 M for him even if by current market standards he is worth 40-45 M..

P.S. No offence to Gunners fans..!! Arsene Wenger may hold the key in Sanchez saga for me..!!

Guyzz i have a suggestion can we all make our own PG fans league n play espn Fantasy Football Manager for 2011-12 season..!!

Hw about this..?


P.S. ur suggestions are welcum..!!

Guys found a link where u have to enter ur name, it generates what u will be called if u were a brazilian footballer, LOL BrazilName - Generate your own Brazil football shirt!

samra1 Says

Yr Shaun how come u or for that matter mentioned here that david villa is being offered to Chelsea..............

samra1 i never said David Villa was being offered to Chelsea.. ASk me its all crap stories run by newspapers..!!

Barca's Transfer kitty is 45M +Zlatan(24 M) + Bojan(10-12 M) sales= 80-85 M

and the targets are Sanchez and Fabregas only..They are not gonna offer 30 M for Rossi..!! plus after losing Bojan i dnt think they will sell their main Centre Forward David Villa plus Sanchez is a Right winger or a SS(Support striker) mainly..

Its all media's crap speculation bcz Barca said their transfer kitty is just 45 M plus pple dnt read their Sporting Director said plus sales too..!!

Expect 1 Striker to be added to Chelsea as they are set to lose Anelka for sure as far as i feel..!! Falcao would be my bet as Neymar luks set for Real Madrid

Expect either Benzema or Higuain to be shipped out most probably Higuain at a cut price of 15-20 M


P.S. Ashley Young arrives at Bridgewater Hospital for Manchester United medical The Sun |SportFootball

It luks real nw..!! I think at 15 M its a good signing..!! now we are left with a CM only and a Striker if Berbatov leaves..!!

AS usual parthu_12 brings up the BREAKING NEWS for all of us..!!

Thnxx buddy..!!

BREAKING NEWS: Chelsea Appoint Andre Villas-Boas As Manager On Three-Year Deal - Goal.com

Can i sniff Falcao or Hulk coming to Chelsea..?? and even Moutinho..?

P.S. Ask me i dnt think Roman will wait for anything more than 2 yrs..!!

if Falcao arrives what would happen to Drogba ???
He would become surplus.I do believe he has lot in him right now and any other team would be ready to take him especially those where there is problem of centre forwards like madrid, tottenham maybe even arsenal if they do not sign any other forward

Also chelsea have daniel sturiddge ready to make his mark !!!!!

AS usual parthu_12 brings up the BREAKING NEWS for all of us..!!

Thnxx buddy..!!

BREAKING NEWS: Chelsea Appoint Andre Villas-Boas As Manager On Three-Year Deal - Goal.com

Can i sniff Falcao or Hulk coming to Chelsea..?? and even Moutinho..?

P.S. Ask me i dnt think Roman will wait for anything more than 2 yrs..!!

Yr Shaun how come u or for that matter mentioned here that david villa is being offered to Chelsea..............

It is confirmed !!!

Chelsea appoint Andre Villas Boas as their new boss

My prediction : in 2-3 years either chelsea will win CL or villas also fired

AS usual parthu_12 brings up the BREAKING NEWS for all of us..!!

Thnxx buddy..!!

BREAKING NEWS: Chelsea Appoint Andre Villas-Boas As Manager On Three-Year Deal - Goal.com

Can i sniff Falcao or Hulk coming to Chelsea..?? and even Moutinho..?

P.S. Ask me i dnt think Roman will wait for anything more than 2 yrs..!!

It is confirmed !!!

Chelsea appoint Andre Villas Boas as their new boss

My prediction : in 2-3 years either chelsea will win CL or villas also fired

So, it looks like Andre Villas-Boas, age 33, is all set to be the next Chelsea coach. He has already worked at chelsea and is the hottest prospect for a manager's role after achieving so much at Porto. Although, I expected him to stay for one more season at porto, and compete for champions league, but unfortunately that's not how things work
With him coming, we can expect Falcao to come in too? Chelsea could become really strong, and he's a attack minded, tactical genius and we may see a very different Chelsea. Although, only factors that may go against him, is the ego in the dressing room, considering his age, and his lack of experience, managing such a big side with big profile players.

Oh, and another factor maybe time, and really important IMO considering it's, the highly impatient Roman Abramovich's to decide, how much to give him!!

I said long time ago Villas Boas was in running next to Hiddink as he dsnt wants to become a manager at Chelsea which is a very volatile position at Chelsea FC but rather become a Sporting Director for them..!! maybe Sporting Director for Chelsea FC or manager for Inter Milan..!!

there is a chance if he moves to Inter Milan then Avram Grant might be appointed as new Sporting Director for Chelsea

Dint i say a day before there is 70 % chance of Sanchez to Barca and Udinese reps comes out n say its 80 % done deal plus dint i say Man City will cum back again to show their money muscle and get themselves insulted again..!! heres what they are doing it today..!!

Not bad isnt it..!!

P.S. Thats what my sources told me some weeks ago when Carlo was sacked..!!

So, it looks like Andre Villas-Boas, age 33, is all set to be the next Chelsea coach. He has already worked at chelsea and is the hottest prospect for a manager's role after achieving so much at Porto. Although, I expected him to stay for one more season at porto, and compete for champions league, but unfortunately that's not how things work
With him coming, we can expect Falcao to come in too? Chelsea could become really strong, and he's a attack minded, tactical genius and we may see a very different Chelsea. Although, only factors that may go against him, is the ego in the dressing room, considering his age, and his lack of experience, managing such a big side with big profile players.

Oh, and another factor maybe time, and really important IMO considering it's, the highly impatient Roman Abramovich's to decide, how much to give him!!

Barcelona on the verge of signing Alexis Sanchez...
Barca getting stronger and stronger...

Not just yet..!! I have said in past Pozzo is an idiotic owner of the club and he will say again new things everyday so its very hard to deal with him..!! plus Udinese is no club in debt so they are holding every club who comes in for ransom and shouting today he is favt tomm she is favt..!!

It will drag on a little longer and i still fancy him staying with Udinese for 1 more season..!!70 % chances going to barca 20 % chance staying at Udinese and 10 % chance of any other club yes u knw whom i m talking abt(Eastlanders) to come and sign him..!!

England U21 team thrown out of the Euro U21 competition..
Did they miss the services of Wilshere and Carroll..??? :splat:

argh!!!!!
now it just sucks, what happened actually??

Stuart Pearce is a joke manager of the century..!!

he plays this midfield against Ukraine then hw will goals come for England side wheres creativity

--------------------Mancienne
------------Henderson-------Rodwell

AS stupid as it can get..!!

this should have been the team he should have in mind as playing XI

----Rose-------Jones--------Smalling-----------Walker

-----------McEacheran/Rodwell-----Wilshere

---Scott Sinclair--------------------------Tom Clevreley
-----------------Welbeck------Sturridge


Subs: Henderson , Mancienne , Albrighton , Lansbury , Rodwell ,Muamba

This is the team he should have played if we leave out Andy Carroll bcz of his recent injury concerns..!!

If u cudnt take Wilshere and McEacheran whats the use of playing then.!!

P.S. Might have won the tournament..!!