ok i have a question...why was the Insomnia thread taken off the forum...i think it was one of the rare threads where at least the poster showed some discipline even while spammin.... no posts were encouraged between 6 am to 11:59:59 ..... it didnt lead to any personal attacks..it was just a fun thread for us....where once in a while when we logged on to PG in the nite we posted a coupla whatz happenin at various places stuff.... yes i agree a few times spamming went out of control but then the regulars themselves decided to put on the brakes and one liner pvt conversations stopped always ... so it was one of the few threads which was self regulated without any mods intervention.... am sad for it was deleted...coz quite often i found my fellow b-skolers there and it was a heaven for us insomniacs...but then everything has a reason and the threads deletion must also have one....i just request that the reason be given to the Insomniacs for the threads deletion

ciao..

Hey guys,
Read the whole thread (and the provided links as well in some posts)....Phew !! Some reading that !!
I come straight to the point.
I support the Moderators here that they give ample warnings to a person before banning him/her. Also I presume that its not their full time job so it becomes kinda hectic providing all the details about "why the person was banned" etc. The reason to ban is obvious.Hell , thats why the person was banned
But I do point out here that 98tillIDie was a brave soul (atleast he didnt dance around the points , came straight to them).Him being banned due to personal attacks (via pm, posts) is fully justified and cant be questioned. But then if his posts(on the thread other than To Hell With.....) played a part in him getting banned , then I feel there was one more soul on the same thread that had to be banned.But thats me opinion.I know I am gonna face flak for restarting the 98till... topic but then couldnt stop meself.
@Gaurav200x , nothing against you Bro , but whether u were banned or not or for whatever reasons....nobody cares. The thing is U are here , free to post, so make full use of this facility and do it in a constructive and a helpful way. No one is trying to supress your thought process or something !!! Its just a suggestion.Please do not go about "pulling the skin of the hair" (baal ki khaal) of this post.If you cant take the suggestion , drop it.

Vaise so many posts... No one wants to find out why 98tillidie was banned:wink:
Poor guy emailed me the posts that were erased after which he was banned

Mostly all everything like thios boils down to is the 'Theory of Relativity' Since perfection cannot be guaranteed of anyone... let alone Mods... The rules have to be laid out with more thought and have to be very clearly mentioned after some careful thought and discussion i guess...

K

There's a third category....Which some ppl employ with extreme sophistication....Its trolling of a different dimension Explaining that is beyond the scope of this post/forum
Cheers

Please do elaborate or at the very least, mention some of the best players in this category :satisfie:

yes it is but there are pple who love to wash linen in public despite being asked to pm.such a thread wud help mods deal wid em without going thru da procedure of banning em.cos they mite come back with another id after being banned.

Separate thread. Why would you want to tax the Moderators We strive to preserve the sanctity of the forum in all possible ways and expect the users also to do so.

Being a Mod one realises how important the co-operation from fellow users is. Moreover the purpose is to stop/curb the nuisance not give it a breeding ground.

this sounds like fight club again.:2gunfire::argue: :snipersm:

nice idea though .. but i dont think pg is the place to wash linen.. pm is a better way i suppose :grab:

yes it is but there are pple who love to wash linen in public despite being asked to pm.such a thread wud help mods deal wid em without going thru da procedure of banning em.cos they mite come back with another id after being banned.

quebecile Says

if somebody is really that curious, he can simply check the banned person's previous post through the profile...his last post would give u an idea why that person has been banned.

True!!
And posting the link beneath the "Banned" logo is impossible. We arent doing a full time job here you see :)

Vaibhav,
If you really wanna have some fun and all, there are hundreds of such forums on the internet

wow.this has to be the most entertaining thread i have read in a long long time
but ofcourse thts not the purpose of the thread.
wht i'd like to know is why doesnt pagalguy just start a seperate thread for pple to have their arguements in.whnever u see pple arguing in a particular thread and who want to wash linen in public rather than in pm just direct them to tht thread.they'll get it out of their system...the mods wont have to bother going there(much) and itll be very very entertaining.seriously mods thnk abt it.
this way pple can exprsess themselves the hardcoreway without getting banned.

this sounds like fight club again.:2gunfire::argue: :snipersm:

nice idea though .. but i dont think pg is the place to wash linen.. pm is a better way i suppose :grab:

Maverick,

Each time a user is banned, what essentially happens is that below each of his previous posts(posts posted b4 he is actually banned), there is a BANNED sign(with the yelloish coloured symbols!). Now, it would really be helpful if uall either post the thread name for which he has been banned under this "BANNED" sign, or better still the thread link itself. There would not be questions arising outta confusion(as happened in the "hell with MBA" thread) and the point raised earlier by someone, about the banned person persistently getting pestered with such questions on why, who, how etc. may stop!

Sun

if somebody is really that curious, he can simply check the banned person's previous post through the profile...his last post would give u an idea why that person has been banned.

wow.this has to be the most entertaining thread i have read in a long long time
but ofcourse thts not the purpose of the thread.
wht i'd like to know is why doesnt pagalguy just start a seperate thread for pple to have their arguements in.whnever u see pple arguing in a particular thread and who want to wash linen in public rather than in pm just direct them to tht thread.they'll get it out of their system...the mods wont have to bother going there(much) and itll be very very entertaining.seriously mods thnk abt it.
this way pple can exprsess themselves the hardcoreway without getting banned.
PS:-dont u have age limits for moderators.we've got 3 yr old moderators here(uRmad).

Suneer,
Good point there, But where do you want us to post the thread link ? We dint have such a thread before.

About spam,
Go through this thread.
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/suggestions-and-feedback/8846-how-do-we-reduce-spam.html

Maverick,

Each time a user is banned, what essentially happens is that below each of his previous posts(posts posted b4 he is actually banned), there is a BANNED sign(with the yelloish coloured symbols!). Now, it would really be helpful if uall either post the thread name for which he has been banned under this "BANNED" sign, or better still the thread link itself. There would not be questions arising outta confusion(as happened in the "hell with MBA" thread) and the point raised earlier by someone, about the banned person persistently getting pestered with such questions on why, who, how etc. may stop!

Sun

"Suneer" Says

and another question, what exactly constitutes spamming?

Good you asked.....First the regular variety--the ones that are most often seen --
-adverts
-same threads in multiple sections
-opening threads even after mods/someone has pointed out similar threads
-opening threads against the rules of the forum (trying to sell/cross-promoting)
-& the like.....

And then there's the other kind..The other kind which the spammer wud never agree to be a spam and mods consider that to be a spam....Its mostly disguised..So its kinda hard to find It typically relates to ppl posting in threads where they add zilch to the discussion...Prolly jut in with a ROFL/cool/awesome or some other one-liner comment....Its fine once in a while..But once a person makes it a point to make sure that the last post in all threads is by him in a matter of a few minutes (before he logs off and leaves for the session) , THAT definitely is spamming...A lotta ppl have this OCD (;)) that they need to post on every new thread thats come up since they last logged out.....

There's a third category....Which some ppl employ with extreme sophistication....Its trolling of a different dimension Explaining that is beyond the scope of this post/forum

Cheers

djikstra Says

dude to know wat true blue spamming is ..........juss visit the "insomnia" thread( u wont have any problems finding it after 12 at night) , but its like a safe haven for spammers, nobody is banned if found spamming here( some of our old timers and once in a while even mods give us darshan there)

djikstra,
I am really sorry to inform you that the Insomnia thread is no more. :(

To discuss about spam, check the link on my earlier post.

and another question, what exactly constitutes spamming?(i know this could lead to another huge debate, but I would like the Mods to answer this!)

Sun

Well, Technically not possible to define it in black and white. :neutral:

To us Mods, we go by something called *Commonsense*

To elaborate, what we look at it is that a specific user is not on a posting spree just for the heck of increasing the post counts. Someone should post on a thread only if he feels he is *contributing* to the discussion. Someone going at 6-7+ posts a day would either be *Addicted Pagal* or otherwise!

phew, peace at last!(at least for almost 90 minutes now!)

had a coupla questions still to be clarified, that's about the suspensions and bans...
to begin with a suggestion many have given, the reason or suspension could definitely be mentioned, I remember a guy(forget his name), who started the thread "To hell with MBA", getting banned for some remarks made in some other thread, and a loads of junta got this feeling that he's been banned becoz of "To hell with MBA". It had taken the mods a lotsaff efforts to get the exact reason out. So, why not pinpoint the exact thread/post for which the User has been banned!

and another question, what exactly constitutes spamming?(i know this could lead to another huge debate, but I would like the Mods to answer this!)


Sun

dude to know wat true blue spamming is ..........juss visit the "insomnia" thread( u wont have any problems finding it after 12 at night) , but its like a safe haven for spammers, nobody is banned if found spamming here( some of our old timers and once in a while even mods give us darshan there)

phew, peace at last!(at least for almost 90 minutes now!)

had a coupla questions still to be clarified, that's about the suspensions and bans...
to begin with a suggestion many have given, the reason or suspension could definitely be mentioned, I remember a guy(forget his name), who started the thread "To hell with MBA", getting banned for some remarks made in some other thread, and a loads of junta got this feeling that he's been banned becoz of "To hell with MBA". It had taken the mods a lotsaff efforts to get the exact reason out. So, why not pinpoint the exact thread/post for which the User has been banned!

and another question, what exactly constitutes spamming?(i know this could lead to another huge debate, but I would like the Mods to answer this!)

Sun

Suneer,
Good point there, But where do you want us to post the thread link ? We dint have such a thread before.

About spam,
Go through this thread.
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/suggestions-and-feedback/8846-how-do-we-reduce-spam.html

phew, peace at last!(at least for almost 90 minutes now!)

had a coupla questions still to be clarified, that's about the suspensions and bans...
to begin with a suggestion many have given, the reason or suspension could definitely be mentioned, I remember a guy(forget his name), who started the thread "To hell with MBA", getting banned for some remarks made in some other thread, and a loads of junta got this feeling that he's been banned becoz of "To hell with MBA". It had taken the mods a lotsaff efforts to get the exact reason out. So, why not pinpoint the exact thread/post for which the User has been banned!

and another question, what exactly constitutes spamming?(i know this could lead to another huge debate, but I would like the Mods to answer this!)

Sun

PsychoD,
I checked out. There's no Vishal Tajpuria in Infy Mangalore. So pls stop cooking up stories. Hehehe

After the Coolest Avataar thread everyone seems to be thinking Im cooking up stuff

This guy -> http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/members/vishal_tajpuria.html

I think his official name is Vishal Agarwal or something I don't know for sure.

Arun

djikstra Says

why u r one party in each and every dispute on most threads..................juss wondering

dispute happens because of 2 people ... not one!

p.s mods, sorry for posting, but i guess this person asked me a question...

Dear subbu,
i sincerely hope, u would have read all the posts so far on the thread... Don't u think, all ur guns are pointing at me? I didn't wish this to become a big issue in the 1st place.... I repeatedly kept telling rajeshnsitan to drop the issue(bcoz i never said the words with which, he started the discussion... i never blamed the mods in my post) and told him that he is welcome to discuss it through PM..... yet, he kept posting.... and none of the guys, (blaming me).... said a word about that.... On the contrary, when i am trying to defnd myself, i am labelled as a spammer?

Yes, i wanted to take the issue via PM..... but then, when everyone is opnly defaming me.... i need to prove that, they are wrong...

and just to tell u.... it isn't about me getting banned at all.... its just about how the other people see me.... and judge me, even before they know me properly....

gaurav dude, dont u get it...............these are the sort of activities that get ppl banned...................each of the mods has warned u and u still keep ranting abt defending urself.............i have been observing this thread since morning and cudnt control myself now.......do u really think so much is at stake that u will keep posting all day..................man take a break, go out take a walk on the beach, relax........................else u r gonna pis off more ppl in one day than u ever did in ur life...........i guess anymore posts on this thread and i guess u r gonna b banned again..................
cheers
Djxxxxxx

P.S.- nothing personal, but juss cant see all this dogfight happenning on PG....................and GAURAV, by the way ..........why u r one party in each and every dispute on most threads..................juss wondering

Dear subbu,
i sincerely hope, u would have read all the posts so far on the thread... Don't u think, all ur guns are pointing at me? I didn't wish this to become a big issue in the 1st place.... I repeatedly kept telling rajeshnsitan to drop the issue(bcoz i never said the words with which, he started the discussion... i never blamed the mods in my post) and told him that he is welcome to discuss it through PM..... yet, he kept posting.... and none of the guys, (blaming me).... said a word about that.... On the contrary, when i am trying to defnd myself, i am labelled as a spammer? (is this spamming?)

Yes, i wanted to take the issue via PM..... but then, when everyone is opnly defaming me.... i need to prove that, they are wrong...

and just to tell u.... it isn't about me getting banned at all.... its just about how the other people see me.... and judge me, even before they know me properly....

Its funny....When something that you intend to put a period to, rolls on !!! OK, let's get this straight....Like you say, lets assume its not abt ur being banned....On a public forum, you are *viewed* in light of your posts ! Period. Don't expect people to google up your history or even check ur past posts...Once you've spent a considerable amount of time on any online forum, ppl make an opinion of you based on the *posts*.....It might be a limitation of the medium, but thats something you will have to learn to live with....Factor that into your thought process and I am sure you will see better sense prevail !!

Gaurav, Take this as a warning ! I am not sure if you are aware of the meaning of the word *stretch*, but stretching numerous mods and junta is what you are currently doing....And just in case you are unaware of , many a times, silence accomplishes a *lot* more than coming out 007 style !!! Think about it....Yes, you have contributed a lotta d/l stuff to junta...But that doesn't give you a blanket right to go spamming and say - hey look the other way now, i did a lotta good there.....You are obviously pretty pissed off over your banning...But to stretch it beyond a point and hijacking multiple threads is simply unwarranted....Give it a thought....and your keyboard, some rest :)
Cheers

Dear subbu,
i sincerely hope, u would have read all the posts so far on the thread... Don't u think, all ur guns are pointing at me? I didn't wish this to become a big issue in the 1st place.... I repeatedly kept telling rajeshnsitan to drop the issue(bcoz i never said the words with which, he started the discussion... i never blamed the mods in my post) and told him that he is welcome to discuss it through PM..... yet, he kept posting.... and none of the guys, (blaming me).... said a word about that.... On the contrary, when i am trying to defnd myself, i am labelled as a spammer? (is this spamming?)

Yes, i wanted to take the issue via PM..... but then, when everyone is opnly defaming me.... i need to prove that, they are wrong...

and just to tell u.... it isn't about me getting banned at all.... its just about how the other people see me.... and judge me, even before they know me properly....

Gaurav, Take this as a warning ! I am not sure if you are aware of the meaning of the word *stretch*, but stretching numerous mods and junta is what you are currently doing....And just in case you are unaware of , many a times, silence accomplishes a *lot* more than coming out 007 style !!! Think about it....Yes, you have contributed a lotta d/l stuff to junta...But that doesn't give you a blanket right to go spamming and say - hey look the other way now, i did a lotta good there.....You are obviously pretty pissed off over your banning...But to stretch it beyond a point and hijacking multiple threads is simply unwarranted....Give it a thought....and your keyboard, some rest :)

Cheers

@all

frnds, pls dont turn this into a "fight club" ....it reminds me of a movie with the same name ( hindi waali fcourse )

Boss,
Did ya watch the movie ? I am waiting to watch Dino, Ritesh and co.

PsychoD,
I checked out. There's no Vishal Tajpuria in Infy Mangalore. So pls stop cooking up stories. Hehehe

Rest,
Pls check posts # 65, 68 and 72 on this thread.

If the person doesnt leave me in peace and keeps ranting at the expense of my dignity, do u expect me to keep quiet?? Is defending onself, from a false accusation, a fault?

U are only seeing only my fault... which is not justified :neutral::neutral:

Gaurav you have been told to take this issue on PMs. Please refrain from answering them in this thread.

If the person doesnt leave me in peace and keeps ranting at the expense of my dignity, do u expect me to keep quiet?? Is defending onself, from a false accusation, a fault?

U are only seeing only my fault... which is not justified :neutral::neutral:

the last few pages have been like

"Mummyyyyyyyyyyyy he is hitting me..."... thanks to u know who...
:argue::argue:... guys guys please take a break.. gaurav plz take a break for heaven's sake... why the hell must half of PG go after u.. jus think about it..

Coming to the topic, I guess a person is responsible for what he posts and yup.. i do feel that the mods give ya ample warnings to correct ur self and if u dont, "u gotta be dumb"... take a break....

PS: dude dont take this personal but jus refrain from overposting... dont wanna have an argument with u..

this was 11 posts b4..!!!!

this was 7 posts b4 ...!!!

but u keep on continuing dude....duh.!!!!....give this thread some space to breathe. :neutral:

If the person doesnt leave me in peace and keeps ranting at the expense of my dignity, do u expect me to keep quiet?? Is defending onself, from a false accusation, a fault?

U are only seeing only my fault... which is not justified :neutral::neutral:

gaurav200x| Says

Peace to all!! :satisfie:

this was 11 posts b4..!!!!

|gaurav200x Says

u are welcome to resolve it through PM... better to leave this thread ..... as it is...:smile:

this was 7 posts b4 ...!!!

but u keep on continuing dude....duh.!!!!....give this thread some space to breathe.

Nice point PschoD. A situation faced by all Mods and Senior members of the forum. :smile:

Pehle to, as far as Forums as a source for these events goes, its not manadatory to put up ur email id and Y! on ur profile. Its personal choice!

Also, to reply back Y! offliners or emails is personal choice. All about individual judgement. If some babe sends a offliner that she liked ur so-n-so post, u take a call to reply back or no! And abuses are the other side of the coin. But then, as u pointed out, keeping distance makes sense. And somehow exclusivity breeds respect! :smile:

PS: Gaurav200x, rajesthanian switch to PMs for any further conversation.

anupam will return Says

Awesome peeps :).. reminds me of PG.com circa 2003-2004 when we used to have a lot of heated discussions/personal remarks.. -Vengeance

Heated discussions are (even though, they shud try to keep their cool) legitimate, because it is obvious that people have different views and while in a debate, their aim is to win over their opponent.. But, should abusive language be tolerated? Doesn't it hurt our pride? I believe that the mods should seriously do something about these people, who lose their cool so easily and behave like rickshaw wallahs.. (intolerable abusive beghaviour)

I wanted a clarification from the Mods. I have a question. At many a times I am at the receiving end simply because I don't answer mails/posts or reply back to Yahoo PMs (arrey i get offliners the next day bhai please wait )

I mean verbal abuse on YM or gmail or still worse at times even on my cell phone. For example, there is a guy called Vishal Tajpuria who is a user on PG (with the same name). He wanted me to photocopy the entire Manhattan SC (a $77 book) and courier it off to him in Mangalore. He is working in Infosys Mangalore. I have never seen him/met him in my entire life. I even went to the extent of agreeing to it. This was carried on using my cell phone. When I delayed it by a few days he started abusing me like anything on SMS Using words and threats that I have never heard of .......worse of all he was very personal in his msgs. Very, very personal. I tried ignoring his SMS and he finally stopped.

Now this user got to know about me thru PG and the whole thing was thru this forum. Any tips on how to deal with this kind of users ? Is there a way you Mods deal with this situation ?

Arun

yeah I need a degree for judging you which is preapproved by the AICTE....hail the super dude who cant be judged..


I happen to have better things to do

lmfao @ super dude who cant be judged...

Even the modertor's voice doesnt ring a bell in ur ears... does it?? and u expect me to heed advice from a dumb person like u....



mind ur language man..... if u dont have the decency to talk in a public forum, then get lost..... and leave us alone in peace...

Adieu!!

Awesome peeps :).. reminds me of PG.com circa 2003-2004 when we used to have a lot of heated discussions/personal remarks.. of late PG has been rather sublime but this was a welcome abberation!
But having said that.. it's high time you two continue your blah-blah the PM way!
See.. the moderators have asked you two to discontinue fighting sans-bahu in this thread.. hence PM likho.. and keep the steam running!

-Vengeance

Even the modertor's voice doesnt ring a bell in ur ears... does it?? and u expect me to heed advice from a dumb person like u....

rajeshnsitian| Says

yeah I need a degree for judging you which is preapproved by the AICTE....hail the super dude who cant be judged..

| rajeshnsitian Says

I happen to have better things to do

This clearly shows, that u dont even know which posts u r talking about and u have started accusing me... eh! Get a life, dude!

Made a mental image from whose opinion??? I have had such opinion of you way before you were banned....Somebody rightly said...Never argue with a pig...you get dirty and the pig likes it....Anywayz I'm leaving this thread once and for good...Have a blast here:thumbsup::thumbsup:

mind ur language man..... if u dont have the decency to talk in a public forum, then get lost..... and leave us alone in peace...

Adieu!!

This is why, i said.... u r not capable of judging me... WHY.... because, if u had judged me correctly, u wouldn't have listed out the negatives... which are baseless.....

yeah I need a degree for judging you which is preapproved by the AICTE....hail the super dude who cant be judged..

Last time u posted .... i asked u, to pin point those posts.

I happen to have better things to do

From the starting, I never said the mods are doing a terrible thing.... But u just made a mental image about my post from what other's said... and this is what is incorrect.... I correct myself, whereever i am wrong... u wouldn't have to even pin-point at me.... but i will never bend to unwanted sarcasm and biased attitude....

Made a mental image from whose opinion??? I have had such opinion of you way before you were banned....Somebody rightly said...Never argue with a pig...you get dirty and the pig likes it....Anywayz I'm leaving this thread once and for good...Have a blast here:thumbsup::thumbsup:

@gaurav200x Rein your thoughts a bit for each and every post. You have made your point and as Monil said it would be considered.

@all Please avoid frequent personal remarks Do understand the purpose of this thread.

rajeshnsitian Says

there must be something wrong with u that you are managing to irritate so many blokes here......so when every one points fingers at you...its time for a little introspection....How come everybody is subjecting you to "personal gruesome comments"?

Do u know how many blokes have sent me appraisal PMs, yahoo offlines, emails, etc..... If i starting counting.... this figure (which u quoted) would probably, reduce to less than 10% of that.... This is a public forum, man.... people post whatever they wanna post here.... and i can't shut everyone's mouth.....

This is why, i said.... u r not capable of judging me... WHY.... because, if u had judged me correctly, u wouldn't have listed out the negatives... which are baseless.....

Last time u posted .... i asked u, to pin point those posts.... Did u?? No... u didnt... bcoz u are not ready to accept that i have done good... and how do u expect me to accept ur opinion, which is so biased... If u feel that the content is inane, what can i do.... it is ur opinion and not mine!! Acc. to me, i have my points and i have raised them effectively!!

i have nothing against you dood....just that i find your posts really inane and redundant and thats my personal opinion...u can accept the feedback n try to improve or reject it altogether...

Even i have nothing against u.... How can it possibly be...? You r a stranger to me... and i can't help it, if u find it that way.... maybe, u have to learn to respect other's view-points as well....

From the starting, I never said the mods are doing a terrible thing.... But u just made a mental image about my post from what other's said... and this is what is incorrect.... I correct myself, whereever i am wrong... u wouldn't have to even pin-point at me.... but i will never bend to unwanted sarcasm and biased attitude....
Finally..... u started deviating from the topic in discussion.... so if u still have any more grudges against me, u are welcome to resolve it through PM... better to leave this thread ..... as it is...:)

@all

frnds, pls dont turn this into a "fight club" ....it reminds me of a movie with the same name ( hindi waali fcourse )

i love reading the posts on this thread..... keep on going guys...!!!

Good u have highlighted the threads (although... why not specific posts?? )

The discussion was going fine, untill i was subjected to personal gruesome comments.... And as for value, i have my opinion and i still stick to it.... Just because, u don't approve of them, doesn't mean, they are hogwash!!

So stop this personal accusation at once.... for it is understood, that u are incapable of judging my work...

Peace to all!! :satisfie:

there must be something wrong with u that you are managing to irritate so many blokes here......so when every one points fingers at you...its time for a little introspection....How come everybody is subjecting you to "personal gruesome comments"?

i have nothing against you dood....just that i find your posts really inane and redundant and thats my personal opinion...u can accept the feedback n try to improve or reject it altogether...

but what if he hasnt...even after ur ban was removed u were again given a warning here-

look i'm no MOD....but I've been here as long as almost everybody else(well almost )..but your posts are content less...you dont have to spam all over the place....You dont have to post for the sake of doing so...Look at the content of your posts here and here...IMO,you are adding little value...So either improve the quality of ur posts or get ready to face a li'l music

Good u have highlighted the threads (although... why not specific posts?? )

Let me tell u something, u probably don't read the posts i post, properly and have made a BIG misconception in ur mind.....
Wondering, how i am saying that.... Consider "Black Noise Project".... If u think, i am the one to blame for it...? Read again.... The discussion was going fine, untill i was subjected to personal gruesome comments.... And as for value, i have my opinion and i still stick to it.... Just because, u don't approve of them, doesn't mean, they are hogwash!!

Talking of "agony aunt" i fail to understand which post u are talking about... You just can't post links and say, i post gibberish....

As for "pagal-day" it was a general discussion thread.....

May i ask u, u are highlighting my posts which have lesser content.... why not go over the threads... wherein, i have given extensive posts....??

If i start, even i can pin point tonnes of post which u would have posted, but i got better things to do..... and more importantly, that is not what we were discussing here.... were we?

So stop this personal accusation at once.... for it is understood, that u are incapable of judging my work...

Peace to all!! :satisfie:

Agreed that someone doesn't understand despite 3-4 warnings.... Fine! u ban him and put him under temp ban.... But, if it a temp ban.... then why is there a need to show it to everyone that so-and-so was banned? Do it in such a way, that the person really understands it.... If everyone comes and asks him, 'Why were u banned'? Then he/she is bound to feel humiliated.... even after that person has improved upon returning.... bcoz those queries keep the person reminded that he/she did spamming.... which was wrong... The guilt-feeling is always there.... despite the temporary ban has been removed....

but what if he hasnt...even after ur ban was removed u were again given a warning here-

look i'm no MOD....but I've been here as long as almost everybody else(well almost )..but your posts are content less...you dont have to spam all over the place....You dont have to post for the sake of doing so...Look at the content of your posts here and here...IMO,you are adding little value...So either improve the quality of ur posts or get ready to face a li'l music

Aah...Banning,the reasons are as varied as each individual out here...Monil has rightly pointed out most of the reasons....But more than the reasons...I think a more valid point is trusting the mods' judgement....Sure, mods do make errors....Its just that over a period of time, the errors of judgement are likely to reduce just that much....There are posters and there are posters. There are some who genuinely wanna give their 2p to the community...And there are posters who genuinely want everyone to listen to what they say and agree...They tend to speak for others when, typically, their opinion is an extreme one...And most importantly, they start attacking persons, rather than the opinion expressed....In case you dont get a bschool admit, the last thing one would expect is a poster to come out all guns blazing and abuse the school, the students on the forum and say everyone sucks !!

And ofcourse...the PMs/emails are a different story altogether

And yes, When we ban anyone, get one thing clear. Its NOT personal. Its in a large part for the others on the forum also to see and realize what begets what !! So the point abt not having the famed golden balls thingie doesn't hold good...Sure...Come back once your bans have been lifted, if its a temporary ban..But more importantly, try to take a chill pill

Cheers

I guess no point getting stuck over the issue. Lets take the positives from both and move forward.

I second Maverick on the issue that if a person is banned after repeated warnings, the user is at fault and he deserves to get a 'Banned' rank. Why so?
- If he repeats the same mistake after being warned, we know hes either not taken us seriously, doesnt understand us or doesnt pay heed. In all cases, he is at fault. Once he's sent to vacation, he also becomes a deterrant to others. But, when he returns back, in the true spirit of the community, I dont think anyone ever has issues about him contributing to any thread if he speaks sense. Even a few very senior members (1200+ posts) had been banned at some point over certain issues. So what, they decided to learn from it and have never looked back. :smile:

Also, the point Gaurav makes over here could be valid that there could be different ranks for Limited Bans and Permanent Bans. Something like 'Suspended' and 'Banned' Point taken. Under consideration.

I dont think u understood something else..... So lemme talk about it line-by-line....


When did i say, moderators ban for fun?? please see my posts on this thread once again and let me know whether i have actually written it anywhere?

Yes, i know that the moderators take it in consideration..... but my point is something else....

Agreed that someone doesn't understand despite 3-4 warnings.... Fine! u ban him and put him under temp ban.... But, if it a temp ban.... then why is there a need to show it to everyone that so-and-so was banned? Do it in such a way, that the person really understands it.... If everyone comes and asks him, 'Why were u banned'? Then he/she is bound to feel humiliated.... even after that person has improved upon returning.... bcoz those queries keep the person reminded that he/she did spamming.... which was wrong... The guilt-feeling is always there.... despite the temporary ban has been removed....

So that is the point here..... If it is a temp ban, there is no need to display the status.... just snap the ability to post.....

I dont think so

Enjoy

Rohit

PS> Why the heck people cant understand that it is not necessary make at least 5 posts whenever they login?

oh arun..y u behind tht poor newbie..
mebbe he forgot to read the hitch hker's guide...
i think he was unaware as to how the threads have to be posted on PGland..
maaf kar de yaar usse..

P.S i don kno him personally..don screw me for givng explanation on his bhalf

Following reasons:

(a) Just joined the forum, looks apparently just for 1 purpose

(b) Has opened 3 threads all on the same topic within a few hours

(c) Has nothing else to say (i.e. share opinion about the site) apart from "This is a great site, check it out"

If these were not reasons enough, I don't know what will be

Arun

I think u understood something else..... So lemme talk about it line-by-line....

Gimme a break.
We dont ban here for fun, and I hv mentioned that a 100 times. We ban only when the person doesnt listen to the warnings and still goes on a rampage.

When did i say, moderators ban for fun?? please see my posts on this thread once again and let me know whether i have actually written it anywhere?

Scope to improve ? We know who has the tendency/interest to improve. Posting styles, tone et al are taken into consideration while warning/banning.

Yes, i know that the moderators take it in consideration..... but my point is something else....

Agreed that someone doesn't understand despite 3-4 warnings.... Fine! u ban him and put him under temp ban.... But, if it a temp ban.... then why is there a need to show it to everyone that so-and-so was banned? Do it in such a way, that the person really understands it.... If everyone comes and asks him, 'Why were u banned'? Then he/she is bound to feel humiliated.... even after that person has improved upon returning.... bcoz those queries keep the person reminded that he/she did spamming.... which was wrong... The guilt-feeling is always there.... despite the temporary ban has been removed....

So that is the point here..... If it is a temp ban, there is no need to display the status.... just snap the ability to post.....

what u said and what i said are on seperate lines..... if a person corrects himself, after warning, then why ban?

what i m talking of is giving him/her another level...wherein he can understand his mistake better by taking a break.... But at the same time, there is no need for publicly announcing, that XYZ was banned.....

many know the reason, but most dont..... and if its a temp ban, and ppl keep coming and asking the reason.... then, that's what creates negativity in the positive approach

Gimme a break.
We dont ban here for fun, and I hv mentioned that a 100 times. We ban only when the person doesnt listen to the warnings and still goes on a rampage.

Scope to improve ? We know who has the tendency/interest to improve. Posting styles, tone et al are taken into consideration while warning/banning.

And yea stop this rhetoric that I am getting personal against you and your posts. I have many other better things to do.

@ Gaurav
Boss, u r anyway warned before banning..so ur argument doesnt really hold.

what u said and what i said are on seperate lines..... if a person corrects himself, after warning, then why ban?

what i m talking of is giving him/her another level...wherein he can understand his mistake better by taking a break.... But at the same time, there is no need for publicly announcing, that XYZ was banned.....

many know the reason, but most dont..... and if its a temp ban, and ppl keep coming and asking the reason.... then, that's what creates negativity in the positive approach

@ Gaurav
Boss, u r anyway warned before banning..so ur argument doesnt really hold.

You sure about it ?

We ban users not as a means to humiliate them, but to let them know that what they do, is not in sync with the forum. And if ppl overdo things, we do ban them. And I dont see anything wrong in displaying that a particular person is banned.

And 1 more thing. Temporary bans are very rare. Most of the times its a permanent ban. And again those are at the discretion of the Mod.

Dear realization comes from self..... and humiliation comes when people know about it..... I dont think, there is any need to blow the trumpets and announce that a person is banned..... just seizing his ability to post... will make him realize that he has done something wrong..... (this is the case of temp bans)

But if a person is incorrigible, then he can be banned permanently and his status can be shown that he is banned....

The adv: Every body does mistakes..... but the purpose of banning is not to humiliate but to reform..... When people keeps on asking u, why u r banned repeatedly.... in the end.... u feel frustrated.... u feel dejected and even if u have creative ideas.... u dont wanna implement them.... WHY??

bcoz u have vengence in ur mind...... if the mods are to make a person realize, it can also be done quietly.... i dont see why trumpets shown be blown for it...

Getting the point? :)

maverick Says

Temporary bans are very rare. Most of the times its a permanent ban.

In that u are not giving a person any scope to improve... Its like saying, u did a crime.... u r sentenced to death....

mods plz enlighten as to how to start a new thread

i think that this way, a person's reputation (&hence; his mentality) will not be harmed and as well as understand
he will understand where he went wrong!

You sure about it ?

We ban users not as a means to humiliate them, but to let them know that what they do, is not in sync with the forum. And if ppl overdo things, we do ban them. And I dont see anything wrong in displaying that a particular person is banned.

And 1 more thing. Temporary bans are very rare. Most of the times its a permanent ban. And again those are at the discretion of the Mod.

yeah agreed...
if a user is to be banned for life then its fine..
but if ban is to be lifted after one week then its not a good idea to let the whole forum know that so n so was banned.....cos it leaves a poor impression n it may hamper the exchange of thoughts, knowledge n whatever with that person cos u know that he was banned n mostly cos of it being a large forum we never know why that person was banned....
so may be as spmebody suggested that reason of ban to be told or just don't show he's banned but take away his posting abilities for that period of time..

An excellent suggestion raka..... I second the motion..! i think that this way, a person's reputation (&hence; his mentality) will not be harmed and as well as he will understand where he went wrong!

pagalguy Says

Usually people get warned. Atleast 3 - 5 times. Sometimes in public, sometimes in private. But some people are just belligerent. We constantly deal with threats, insane PMs and such crass language. But its a part of the job. Some people need to be kept away and we take a call on it. Nothing too complicated about it ..

yeah agreed...
if a user is to be banned for life then its fine..
but if ban is to be lifted after one week then its not a good idea to let the whole forum know that so n so was banned.....cos it leaves a poor impression n it may hamper the exchange of thoughts, knowledge n whatever with that person cos u know that he was banned n mostly cos of it being a large forum we never know why that person was banned....
so may be as spmebody suggested that reason of ban to be told or just don't show he's banned but take away his posting abilities for that period of time..

Suggestion :

When a member is a banned...
Can;t it be stated why s/he was banned and the duration ??

By doing this.. the other pagals may atleast realise what one should not do...

Also, while banning a member we specify a reason (shown to the user) why is he/she banned. So, if someone returns and tries to gather sympathy stating 'God know y i was banned', u know theres something fishy!

i think this was a good point but the ppl here looks are more concerned abt personal issues:neutral:
talkin abt above mentioned point i think if a person is banned for a shot period of time then the title banned should not appear with his ID n only his posting abilities should be suspended for that period...cos if he's banned for a short period of time our only perpose is to make him mend his ways n nothin more which i don't think should be told all over the forum that this person is banned...

Usually people get warned. Atleast 3 - 5 times. Sometimes in public, sometimes in private. But some people are just belligerent. We constantly deal with threats, insane PMs and such crass language. But its a part of the job. Some people need to be kept away and we take a call on it. Nothing too complicated about it ..

I have a query. How do we avoid the prejudiced(which is bound to happen, considering the fact that we as human beings tend to get conditioned and prejudiced against or for a particular point of view) decision of a mod. Mods, unfortunately are human beings. And they too can make mistakes in heat of moment.

As pointed by Maverick, the ban can be for any period of time from 1 day to forever. What is important is the fact that once u get banned, u feel bad and it does create a negative impression in the minds of crowds doing rounds here. So even if the fellow gets unbannned soon, it leaves some poor impression..kind of...oh!!..u see...the guy was bannned!!.
So i think there should be a mechanism in place...(plz pardon my ignorance if its already there) which allows for lot of deliberation before banning sombody even for a day.

Hope i make sense...and i am not spamming...

i think this was a good point but the ppl here looks are more concerned abt personal issues:neutral:
talkin abt above mentioned point i think if a person is banned for a shot period of time then the title banned should not appear with his ID n only his posting abilities should be suspended for that period...cos if he's banned for a short period of time our only perpose is to make him mend his ways n nothin more which i don't think should be told all over the forum that this person is banned...

Suggestion :

When a member is a banned...
Can;t it be stated why s/he was banned and the duration ??

By doing this.. the other pagals may atleast realise what one should not do...

If we ban a member, who's busy advertising on the forum, we generally the post and add a note that the member is banned. We do try to post the reason, but most of the times its quite obvious you see

Suggestion :

When a member is a banned...
Can;t it be stated why s/he was banned and the duration ??

By doing this.. the other pagals may atleast realise what one should not do...