Guys, The purpose of the thread has not been clearly understood. We can keep cloning issues limited to the 'Clones on PG' thread.

For other queries on Banning... continue here. This thread will deal with Issues on 'Why ban someone on PG?', an overview on the criteria which we look at before declaring a Ban. Its for information purpose. Also, if u feel a certain user was banned harshly, the issue may be discussed. The Mod issuing the particular ban would clrify the same.

a simple question
is there any way to ban any mod ( except getting banned YOURSELF)
if there is not any , it should be . afterall we live in a democratic country aur
AZAD BHARAT KE AZAD NAAGRIC HONE KE NAATE HUME KISI KA BHI TAKHTA PALTNE KA SAMPURAN ADHIKAAR HAI .(thanks to my english percentile of 52 in cat 2005:satisfie: )

p.s it looks that i m spamming but remember greatest discoveries were first stamped as
foolishness of mankind

BOSEtheFORCE Says

Y the hell is

Arey, I addressed Boss, yeh Bose kahan se aa gaya? Waah, yaar you have been dormant for last 18 months and Boss sunte he you come screaming.

BTW, we are missing the entertainment from you BOSE, your fundas on why IIM Bharti(blah...) is better than IIM B, and your 90+ scores in CAT.
I'm sure you are also using a different id to write here. One more clone is here.

Just found an ideal candidate to be banned for life.

Take a look at the threads started by this user:
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/members/dheerajsl.html



Arun

oh arun..y u behind tht poor newbie..
mebbe he forgot to read the hitch hker's guide...
i think he was unaware as to how the threads have to be posted on PGland..
maaf kar de yaar usse..

P.S i don kno him personally..don screw me for givng explanation on his bhalf

quebecile Says

though ur intention may be completely harmless, dont u think allowing one exception will lead to people coming with a whole range of excuses..and theres no end to it. i think having a single-id rule should be imposed without exception....it does little harm.

I'm not talking about supporting cloning on PaGalGuy.com.
How did you interpretate that?

My post was more on taking a wrong example to go ahead with an idea/debate.
Now since Anil has clarified his stand, the issue gets closed for me.

maverick, got u a candidate for BAN
check out: http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/search.php?searchid=633857

edit: oooops, seems arun was quicker!! but still the case solved!!

Anupam,
Mea culpa if you found the post in such a taste, but to tell you that wasnt the intention. Actually I'd started the thread to discuss among the mods. And the reason you guys are 1 and 2, because your names 1st struck me. No such order and all.

Live_and_let..
Yeah, I think so, but then there are ppl who want the mods to "justify" why a particular user was banned. So let them have it

Anil.. no issues.. this had been a classic case of mis-understandings/mis-interpretations.
Alls well that ends well!

-Vengeance ka Bhoot ( unless u remove the ban from vengeance )

Just found an ideal candidate to be banned for life.

Take a look at the threads started by this user:
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/members/dheerajsl.html



Arun

Anil,

If you read your own post in the PG clone waali thread , to Quote you :


This gives me an impression that I was one of the many ( as my name is listed in the 1st place and Aarav's in the 2nd place ) who had actually misused his ID and it's because of our misuses ( since we've been the famous ones in the list ), that the Moderators @ Pg.com are experiencing Big problems.
Hence the need for an example (Aarav) to support what I had to say.

Anupam,
Mea culpa if you found the post in such a taste, but to tell you that wasnt the intention. Actually I'd started the thread to discuss among the mods. And the reason you guys are 1 and 2, because your names 1st struck me. No such order and all.

Live_and_let..
Yeah, I think so, but then there are ppl who want the mods to "justify" why a particular user was banned. So let them have it

Actually the point Mav made is right...Cloned ids are slightly poking their nose too often now...

But atleast right now 99% of them are either harmless or even made to make some welcome change in way someone writes like Vengeance... Even Aarav's clone ids are harmless... But maybe later on too much of this might get irritating...

Even VidesiGuru i created a long time was after Spiderman posted about VidesiGuru on the Once upon a time thread...I created that id and posted immediately after him or something...

I think the only way to judge is the content the poster makes... Unless the ID that has been cloned makes a protest that someone is using his ID in a wrong way... there is no reason to ban any supposed clone...
There is no way you can be 100% sure anyways... unless one of the parties admits to being a clone...

Long Live my twin brother VidesiGuru

K

MavericK Says

I never said Aarav or you or anyone in that original list to have misused it. I just mentioned that it was starting some sort of a trend.

Anil,

If you read your own post in the PG clone waali thread , to Quote you :

Hey,
I guess this is a serious concern out here. Loads and loads of clones on the forum.

Anupam - Anupam will return, awr, Vengeance
Aarav - Aarav, Stefan R, R Federer
Shrutz - Shrutz, HOHOHOHO
Zakhmi_sher - Zakhmi_sher, Run Time Error.

and lots and lots more

Post with one id, and then reply later with another. I mean do we encourage all this ?

This gives me an impression that I was one of the many ( as my name is listed in the 1st place and Aarav's in the 2nd place ) who had actually misused his ID and it's because of our misuses ( since we've been the famous ones in the list ), that the Moderators @ Pg.com are experiencing Big problems.
Hence the need for an example (Aarav) to support what I had to say.

Slowly but surely the purpose of this thread is prbbly going 4 a toss...

PM's r a better way to serve certain needs/issues...

Stefan R was created so that Aarav doesn't cross 1000 posts before the CAT. That was a superstition.

though ur intention may be completely harmless, dont u think allowing one exception will lead to people coming with a whole range of excuses..and theres no end to it. i think having a single-id rule should be imposed without exception....it does little harm.

anupam will return Says

In a previous post in another thread, I mentioned about people misusing their IDs and also of people who stood out to be exceptions.I mentioned about Aarav being such an exception where the multiple PG ids were not misused.( Just an example.. Please note that I had no intentions of personally vindicating anyone )

I never said Aarav or you or anyone in that original list to have misused it. I just mentioned that it was starting some sort of a trend.

BOSEtheFORCE Says

Y the hell is

make some sense please.. and dont do reposting. just edit it

Arey,
I dint start it this time boss. The issue was raised by Anupam on the other thread. What makes you still think that I am getting personal here ?

In a previous post in another thread, I mentioned about people misusing their IDs and also of people who stood out to be exceptions.I mentioned about Aarav being such an exception where the multiple PG ids were not misused.( Just an example.. Please note that I had no intentions of personally vindicating anyone )

Boss, come out with your real intentions now. Why the hell am I targeted by you everytime? Is there a power struggle that you a waging in your mind?


I visit very limited threads. Why do you keep pin-pointing at me Anil?

Y the hell is

I wanted to post this elsewhere but did not but I really don't know why anyone who posts sense should be banned. Maybe some Freudian thingy might force him to have a kind of split-personality

Plus if the OP never revealed it is it possible to actually try and track IP addresses ? Could they not be from the same office ?

Beats me !

Arun

Boss, come out with your real intentions now. Why the hell am I targeted by you everytime? Is there a power struggle that you a waging in your mind?

Stefan R was created so that Aarav doesn't cross 1000 posts before the CAT. That was a superstition.
R Federer was created b'coz people thru my writing style knew who Stefan R.
Never once did Aarav and Stefan R posted simultaneously.

Stefan R, and R Federer only posted in CAT threads, or quant threads. Where was the chance of controversy?

And these 2 ids were never put into use once I started writing again as Aarav, even if it was on couple on occasions, it was only in quant threads.


I visit very limited threads. Why do you keep pin-pointing at me Anil?

Arey,
I dint start it this time boss. The issue was raised by Anupam on the other thread. What makes you still think that I am getting personal here ?

how about a poll for banning ppl? oh wait ...that was a game show Survivor !!!

still a poll would be interesting. someone like 98tillidie would have found lot of supporters!

tats a cool idea gabbar my 100 marks to it...PG can go democratic if not political..
another suggestion...from me...
mods can give show cause through this forum to the members with some time to reply..
and if they doesnt reply within the timespan simply ban them...
if they replies..we fellow puys will have an opportunity to read thier view point also...
then mods decide...that power sud be with mods...
If as usual ur decisions are within acceptable reasoning.We dont care 4 him/her....
But if ur decision is prejudiced we will be lobbying for him/her tats for sure....... whoever it may be...

wat u say MODs

MavericK Says

Yes I agree. I dont see any point in Aarav using 1 for Mocks, 1 for Chit-Chat et al. What exactly is the logic behind that ?

Boss, come out with your real intentions now. Why the hell am I targeted by you everytime? Is there a power struggle that you a waging in your mind?

Stefan R was created so that Aarav doesn't cross 1000 posts before the CAT. That was a superstition.
R Federer was created b'coz people thru my writing style knew who Stefan R.
Never once did Aarav and Stefan R posted simultaneously.

Stefan R, and R Federer only posted in CAT threads, or quant threads. Where was the chance of controversy?

And these 2 ids were never put into use once I started writing again as Aarav, even if it was on couple on occasions, it was only in quant threads.


I visit very limited threads. Why do you keep pin-pointing at me Anil?

lone.verse Says

Was Gaurav200x banned at any time? If so, could you please let me know why?

I dont think the sole purpose of this thread is to answer your "Why was X banned ?", "Why was Y banned ?" et al. We dont ban here for fun, nor do we do that for personal reasons. There are close to 60k members for us to get personal with members.

So do realise that, if someone is banned, there is some reason behind that.

And if someone openly comes out yelling "Ban me if you can", What do you expect ?

No...

Principal of cloning says that you can have only one id ...no matter for what reason you have created the other...

Yes I agree. I dont see any point in Aarav using 1 for Mocks, 1 for Chit-Chat et al. What exactly is the logic behind that ?

One question :

As far as I remember, I didn't misuse Vengeance.. so please lift the ban from this id. I feel vengeance's there for a purpose..

No...

Principal of cloning says that you can have only one id ...no matter for what reason you have created the other...

One question :

As far as I remember, I didn't misuse Vengeance.. so please lift the ban from this id. I feel vengeance's there for a purpose..

Was Gaurav200x banned at any time? If so, could you please let me know why?

MavericK Says

For your repeated attacks at a particular Instti. (Fore I think)

wat u said your it was never me yaar

ameen_0096 Says

y was amin_96 banned just wnt to know

For your repeated attacks at a particular Instti. (Fore I think)

y was amin_96 banned just wnt to know

rajeshnsitian Says

why was a guy called RahulSharma or something banned?

so that he could return as Aarav - Quantasaurus !!

Arun

To add in one more

4. Cloning of IDs Its become a cause of concern now.

and now that ur The Mod,

r u gonna be proactive?

I'll log in the evening to see which one of those 2 IDs became the victim of personal vengeance of Govi

why was a guy called RahulSharma or something banned?

I have a query. How do we avoid the prejudiced(which is bound to happen, considering the fact that we as human beings tend to get conditioned and prejudiced against or for a particular point of view) decision of a mod. Mods, unfortunately are human beings. And they too can make mistakes in heat of moment.

As pointed by Maverick, the ban can be for any period of time from 1 day to forever. What is important is the fact that once u get banned, u feel bad and it does create a negative impression in the minds of crowds doing rounds here. So even if the fellow gets unbannned soon, it leaves some poor impression..kind of...oh!!..u see...the guy was bannned!!.
So i think there should be a mechanism in place...(plz pardon my ignorance if its already there) which allows for lot of deliberation before banning sombody even for a day.

Hope i make sense...and i am not spamming...

At first, i was thinking of re-posting 'Why i was banned' because i received a lot of queries, PMs and yahoo offlines from inquisitive friends wanting to know why i was banned.... but then, i dropped the idea.... probably thinking what once a friend told me...

Let bygones be bygones....

Anyway, so wish all a peaceful life... and let others stay in peace ...:)

I am not sure if a poll with a ban would serve the purpose. Then what's the point in having moderators ?:) Moreover, it looks really odd to do 'character analysis' of a person in public.
And the thread et al started for the poll would just be another heaven for spamming and personal fights which in anycase would invite more nominations for ban.
My two cents on poll for ban .....

Vijay

A few reasons on why a user would be banned that come to my mind are:
1. Illicit Marketing on forums.
2. Continue spamming even after being warned by the Mods.
3. Indulging in Personal attacks / Mud slinging.

To add in one more

4. Cloning of IDs Its become a cause of concern now.

vits Says

for what time period are the users banned? is it lifetime ban or for any specific number of days?

We have ban periods from 1 day to Perma-bans.
Depends on what the Mods think at that time.
Advertising et al lead to a permanent ban.

And then, banned users can also be unbanned.

gabbar,
98tillidie will have supporters ? From the MCPs ?

how about a poll for banning ppl? oh wait ...that was a game show Survivor !!!

still a poll would be interesting. someone like 98tillidie would have found lot of supporters!

for what time period are the users banned? is it lifetime ban or for any specific number of days?