LCM of ((3^2002) +1) and ((3^2002) -1)..

.. Options ... :banghead::banghead:..

Every game is not KBC ...

Two consecutive even numbers has their HCF as 2.

LCM = (((3^2002) +1) * ((3^2002) -1))/2.....

LCM of ((3^2002) +1) and ((3^2002) -1)..

.. Options ... :banghead::banghead:..

Every game is not KBC ...

Score Update On QQAD - 4

Attempted = 17
Correct = 13
Wrong = 4 (Accuracy Going Down In QA...Don't Know What I would be doing on D-Day) (1,12,16,22)
Score = 13*4 - 1*2 - 2 - 3 = 45

My Take On Cut-Offs

1. QQAD - 4 was much on easier side as compared to QQAD - 3, There Were Lots of Sitters And Workable Questions.
   
2. Questions To Be Attempted In One Go Were => 4,6,7,8,9,13,14,15,18,20,21,24,25
   
3. There Was Only 1 Tough Question In the Paper As Pointed out by Vision Bhai, Question 3, Rest Were Do-able.
   
4. Cut-Offs Should Be Around 11-12 Questions Correct i.e. Score Above 40 is a decent score.
   

PS: Guys, Please Upload Your Score, So That Everybody should be able to make a guess where cut-offs lie.
PPS: Also Posting QQAD - 5

MY Plan for the next 30 days:

I spoke to a few IIMA grads with regards to tweaking of my preparation in the last 30 days.In reality,I had spoken to them with the hopes that they might say "Ah! The last 30 days.You just rest and take a break".Well it did sound like that but not quite.After a few tete a tetes,this is what I finally came up with.


Quantitative Aptitude

1. Revise all concepts.TG E-books are holistic in their approach towards treatment of concepts.
   
2. These concepts should appear fresh on D-day.So make sure the weaker and the stronger concepts are worked upon.
   
3. Once a concept is done on a particular day,go through the problems based on that particular topic.AIMCATs should help.
   
4. Geometry,Numbers,TSD should ideally take 2 days each.The rest should be done in a day each
   
5. Assuming 15 topics in all,you should be done with Quant in a maximum of 18-20 days.
   

Data Interpretation

1. Not a lot of people were sanguine to any DI prep helping in the CAT examination
   
2. However they all said and I quote: Doing a different set a day will always help.
   
3. I intend to do a sectional test from www.tenaday.co.in or CL Test Gym with subsequent analysis.
   
4. Should take me ideally 1-1.5 hours for the entire process.
   

Verbal Ability

1. 2 RCs a day.1 Sectional test a day.
   
2. You could add your very own personal tinges to Verbal Prep by doing more RCs or more Para-Jumbles whichever you think requires more attention.
   
3. I intend to sharpen my grammar skills up a bit because it has been a major impediment to high scores in papers which demand,we attempt these questions.
   

To conclude this,everyone echoed the same thing.Work on your strengths and then on your weaknesses.You might have not been able to do a Geometry question in an AIMCAT which 75% of people did.Yet you did a Numbers question that only 20%people did.IN such a case,work on your Numbers first and then on your Geometry.

Cheers

Varun

Guys, whr is VA hapenning:lookround:. posting two questions i got from TG.

Plz try it and share your responses.

Following post has been picked up from DT'08 thread......
this post was by : slam (currently in IIM-A)

Here are some clarifications on the Who Vs. Whom dilemma that most of of us face (I picked this up from somewhere long back, will post the link as well, if I happen to find it):

Which of these sentences are correct?

1. We will give the money to the person who needs it most.
2. We filed a complaint against the contractor who we hired last month.
3. No one knows who you are.
4. Who are you calling?
5. Who is at the door?
6. We will be kind to whomever knocks on our door for help.
7. Whomever we elect for president will be in office for four years.

All the odd numbered sentences are correct.

Before we go over the four-step trick for getting "who" and "whom" right every time, let's look at the grammatical difference between these words, keeping in mind that "whoever" and "whomever" function just as "who" and "whom" do. (All grammarphobes please skip right on down to the trick!)

"Who" and "whoever" will always be either the subject or the predicate pronoun of their own clauses. (A subject and a verb comprise a clause.) Thus, in sentence 1, "who needs it most" is correct because "who" is the subject of the verb "needs." In sentence 3, "who" is the predicate pronoun of the clause "who you are." (Because of the linking verb "are," the clause says "you = who.") Sentence 5 is correct because "who" is the subject of the verb "is."

"Whom" and "whomever" will always serve as objects. Sentence 2 is incorrect because in the clause "who we hired last month," the subject is "we," the verb is "hired," and the object of that verb is "whom." Likewise, in sentence 4, the subject is "you" and the object of the verb "are calling" is "whom." In normal order, the clause reads "we are calling whom." Here are corrected versions of sentences 2 and 4:

2. We filed a complaint against the contractor whom we hired last month.
4. Whom are you calling?

Sentence 7 correctly employs "whomever" as the object of its own clause, "Whomever we elect for president." The subject is "we," the verb is "elect," and the direct object is "whomever." In normal order, the clause reads "we elect whom."

Here is the four-step trick for getting these words straight every time:

Step 1: Isolate the clause containing the "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)." (Sentences that ask questions, such ase 4 and 5 above, can have only one clause.)

Step 2: Ignore the part of the sentence that is NOT in the "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)" clause.

Step 3: In place of the word "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)," plug in the words "he" or "him" and see which one sounds better. (Sorry, ladies; we can't use "she" and "her" because "her" doesn't end with an "m," and the trick won't work!)

Step 4: If "he" sounds better, then choose "who(ever)." If "him" sounds better, then choose "whom(ever)." Remember that the "m" words ("him" and "whom") go together.

Let's try the trick on sentence 1:

(1) Isolate the "who/whom" clause: We will give the money to the person .

(2) Ignore the rest of the sentence outside the bracketed clause.

(3) Plug in "he" or "him" and see which sounds better: "he needs it most" or "him needs it most"?

(4) Obviously, "he" sounds better, so our choice will be "who."

Let's try it on sentence 7:

(1) Isolate the "whoever/whomever" clause: will be in office for four years.

(2) Ignore the rest of the sentence outside the bracketed clause.

(3) Plug in "he" or "him" and see which sounds better: "we elect he for president" or "we elect him for president"?

(4) Obviously, "him" sounds better, so our choice will be "whom"--or, in this sentence, "whomever."

The trick works even when the "who" or "whom" refers to a group of people; simply use "they" and "them" instead of "he" and "him." The "m" words still go together: "them," "him," "whom," and "whomever."

We get in trouble when we forget step 2 of the trick and don't ignore the part of the sentence that is outside the "who/whom" clause. Notice what would have happened if we had made that mistake with sentence 6 and said "we will be kind to him" instead of "he knocks on our door for help." We would have incorrectly chosen "whomever" instead of "whoever."

I think sentence 1 should be "...We will give the money to the person who needs it the most"

My Take For Venn Diagram

1. 65
   
2. None Of These
   
3. 49
   
4. 98
   
5. 66
   

Sorry Guys For Being Late
Though I Haven't Prepared solution for all the Problems of QQAD - 4, I'll be preparing it soon...I've the Answer key for the QQAD-4, solved some problems late night, uploading here the Answer key. The questions for which solutions are left, we can discuss here...Actually, I'll be not available for the whole day after this..so uploading Incomplete Solutions for the Same....

Guys, Please Bear..And Groans Mat Maarna
Sorry :-(

Bhaii please Post ur detailed approach...Thanks..

Great confy guys...little bit of gyaan n loooooottttttttttttttttsssssssssssssssss of bakaar!!
Transcript public domain mein upload karna thora muskil hain...itna 'serious' sab discussion tha!!
Sadly Prem bhai cudn't make it..n sinchan's having his mid-sems...so didn't have any gyaan from those stalwarts..but den,dere's always da next confy!:)

@varun...congro!!..100%ile :w00t:..iske picche raaz kya woh hi hain jo hum soch rahein hain!;)...jokes apart,yeh VA ka gyaan thoda sa mujhe bhi de do bhai!

Sorry for da spam...do din se post nahin kiya..kuchh to likhna hi tha!:biggrin:
Keep rocking...

Regards..

Hey Puys...
am having a real ruf tym facing the quants section in the mocks..... Plz advise wat shud i do so as to improve upon the basic concepts and fundas...

Also ..if u guyz have some file relating to quants concepts/fundas/tricks/formulaes..plz do point dem to me.. u many either post the link here...or plz pm me
Thanks.

@dish tv..... its ok bro....take your own time for preparing soln....great work!!:thumbsup:

my QQAD 4 scores:

attempt: 15
correct: 13
wrong : 2 ( ques: 3, 18:banghead: )
score: 52 - 2 = 50 :sneaky:

kisi ko cut off ka kuch idea hai is test k, to please post kar do ??

i just went for sitters and slightly medium level questions in the test...

sitters: 6, 7, 9, 13, 14, 18, 20, 24, 25
easy-medium level : 1,4, 10, 11, 21
difficult: 3

rest questions i didn't attempt....:-(

anyways, paper had a good mix of sitters and easy questions..... despite recognizing 3 as difficult, i did it and it went wrong......

PS: LOD is according to me and it can vary from person to person depending on his areas of strength and weakness in quant!!

My Take For Venn Diagram

1. 65
   
2. None Of These
   
3. 49
   
4. 98
   
5. 66
   

Sorry Guys For Being Late
Though I Haven't Prepared solution for all the Problems of QQAD - 4, I'll be preparing it soon...I've the Answer key for the QQAD-4, solved some problems late night, uploading here the Answer key. The questions for which solutions are left, we can discuss here...Actually, I'll be not available for the whole day after this..so uploading Incomplete Solutions for the Same....

Guys, Please Bear..And Groans Mat Maarna
Sorry

Team,

Target#1 of DI/LR --> Venn Diagrams
Duration : 3 days... Today, tomorrow and Sun... 3 din mein Kargil fateh kar liya tha , yeh to Venn Diagram hee hain....Yeh Dil maange more...
Yahan koi kuch kar ri na raha to socha ki I should take the onus...Ab team to apni hee hai naa :P

Please solve the set given below and share ur approaches...

All the students in a class of 100 attended a summer camp, organized by SAI and WHO together. At the camp, each of these students had the option of enrolling for coaching in at most three sports, namely - Football, Cricket and Hockey. In an attempt to find out the relative popularity of the three sports, SAI collected the number of students enrolled for each of these three sports and found that, a students had enrolled for hockey, b for football and c for cricket. WHO, on its part, collected the data regarding the number of sports enrolled for each of the 100 students and found that, d students had enrolled for exactly one sport, e for exactly two sports, f for exactly three sports and g students had not enrolled for any of the three sports.

Q.1 If d>e>f and c is less than a as well as b, what is the maximum possible value of c?
1) 63 2) 64 3) 65 4) 66 5) None of These

Q.2 If a, b, c, d, e, f and g are all distinct natural numbers, the minimum possible number of students who enrolled for at least one sport is
1) 9 2) 10 3) 11 4) 13 5) None of These

Q.3 If a is less than b as well as c, the number of students who enrolled only for hockey is at most
1) 32 2) 48 3) 49 4) 50 5) None of These

Q.4 If a, b and c are all distinct, then the least value among a, b and c is at most
1) 96 2) 97 3) 98 4) 99 5) None of These

Q.5 If a + b+ c =100, the number of students who enrolled for none of the three sports is at most
1) 30 2) 66 3) 68 4) 52 5) 50

P.S I have the postscript jisme leo , dishtv and Naga ne Tamal bhaii ko gyan diya tha...:)
Kuch confusion hai usme isliye socha yahan post kar diya jaye..poori team ka bhala ho jayega..

Aapka,
SSR

My take :
1. 3
2. 5
3. 1
4. 3
5. 2

CATOMANIAC 09

Team,

Target#1 of DI/LR --> Venn Diagrams
Duration : 3 days... Today, tomorrow and Sun... 3 din mein Kargil fateh kar liya tha , yeh to Venn Diagram hee hain....Yeh Dil maange more...
Yahan koi kuch kar ri na raha to socha ki I should take the onus...Ab team to apni hee hai naa :P

Please solve the set given below and share ur approaches...

All the students in a class of 100 attended a summer camp, organized by SAI and WHO together. At the camp, each of these students had the option of enrolling for coaching in at most three sports, namely - Football, Cricket and Hockey. In an attempt to find out the relative popularity of the three sports, SAI collected the number of students enrolled for each of these three sports and found that, a students had enrolled for hockey, b for football and c for cricket. WHO, on its part, collected the data regarding the number of sports enrolled for each of the 100 students and found that, d students had enrolled for exactly one sport, e for exactly two sports, f for exactly three sports and g students had not enrolled for any of the three sports.

Q.1 If d>e>f and c is less than a as well as b, what is the maximum possible value of c?
1) 63 2) 64 3) 65 4) 66 5) None of These

Q.2 If a, b, c, d, e, f and g are all distinct natural numbers, the minimum possible number of students who enrolled for at least one sport is
1) 9 2) 10 3) 11 4) 13 5) None of These

Q.3 If a is less than b as well as c, the number of students who enrolled only for hockey is at most
1) 32 2) 48 3) 49 4) 50 5) None of These

Q.4 If a, b and c are all distinct, then the least value among a, b and c is at most
1) 96 2) 97 3) 98 4) 99 5) None of These

Q.5 If a + b+ c =100, the number of students who enrolled for none of the three sports is at most
1) 30 2) 66 3) 68 4) 52 5) 50

P.S I have the postscript jisme leo , dishtv and Naga ne Tamal bhaii ko gyan diya tha...:)
Kuch confusion hai usme isliye socha yahan post kar diya jaye..poori team ka bhala ho jayega..

Aapka,
SSR

Following post has been picked up from DT'08 thread......
this post was by : slam (currently in IIM-A)

Here are some clarifications on the Who Vs. Whom dilemma that most of of us face (I picked this up from somewhere long back, will post the link as well, if I happen to find it):

Which of these sentences are correct?

1. We will give the money to the person who needs it most.
2. We filed a complaint against the contractor who we hired last month.
3. No one knows who you are.
4. Who are you calling?
5. Who is at the door?
6. We will be kind to whomever knocks on our door for help.
7. Whomever we elect for president will be in office for four years.

All the odd numbered sentences are correct.

Before we go over the four-step trick for getting "who" and "whom" right every time, let's look at the grammatical difference between these words, keeping in mind that "whoever" and "whomever" function just as "who" and "whom" do. (All grammarphobes please skip right on down to the trick!)

"Who" and "whoever" will always be either the subject or the predicate pronoun of their own clauses. (A subject and a verb comprise a clause.) Thus, in sentence 1, "who needs it most" is correct because "who" is the subject of the verb "needs." In sentence 3, "who" is the predicate pronoun of the clause "who you are." (Because of the linking verb "are," the clause says "you = who.") Sentence 5 is correct because "who" is the subject of the verb "is."

"Whom" and "whomever" will always serve as objects. Sentence 2 is incorrect because in the clause "who we hired last month," the subject is "we," the verb is "hired," and the object of that verb is "whom." Likewise, in sentence 4, the subject is "you" and the object of the verb "are calling" is "whom." In normal order, the clause reads "we are calling whom." Here are corrected versions of sentences 2 and 4:

2. We filed a complaint against the contractor whom we hired last month.
4. Whom are you calling?

Sentence 7 correctly employs "whomever" as the object of its own clause, "Whomever we elect for president." The subject is "we," the verb is "elect," and the direct object is "whomever." In normal order, the clause reads "we elect whom."

Here is the four-step trick for getting these words straight every time:

Step 1: Isolate the clause containing the "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)." (Sentences that ask questions, such ase 4 and 5 above, can have only one clause.)

Step 2: Ignore the part of the sentence that is NOT in the "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)" clause.

Step 3: In place of the word "who(ever)" or "whom(ever)," plug in the words "he" or "him" and see which one sounds better. (Sorry, ladies; we can't use "she" and "her" because "her" doesn't end with an "m," and the trick won't work!)

Step 4: If "he" sounds better, then choose "who(ever)." If "him" sounds better, then choose "whom(ever)." Remember that the "m" words ("him" and "whom") go together.

Let's try the trick on sentence 1:

(1) Isolate the "who/whom" clause: We will give the money to the person .

(2) Ignore the rest of the sentence outside the bracketed clause.

(3) Plug in "he" or "him" and see which sounds better: "he needs it most" or "him needs it most"?

(4) Obviously, "he" sounds better, so our choice will be "who."

Let's try it on sentence 7:

(1) Isolate the "whoever/whomever" clause: will be in office for four years.

(2) Ignore the rest of the sentence outside the bracketed clause.

(3) Plug in "he" or "him" and see which sounds better: "we elect he for president" or "we elect him for president"?

(4) Obviously, "him" sounds better, so our choice will be "whom"--or, in this sentence, "whomever."

The trick works even when the "who" or "whom" refers to a group of people; simply use "they" and "them" instead of "he" and "him." The "m" words still go together: "them," "him," "whom," and "whomever."

We get in trouble when we forget step 2 of the trick and don't ignore the part of the sentence that is outside the "who/whom" clause. Notice what would have happened if we had made that mistake with sentence 6 and said "we will be kind to him" instead of "he knocks on our door for help." We would have incorrectly chosen "whomever" instead of "whoever."

SIMCAT-8 results out! I should either be really happy about it or my college should revoke the degree they conferred upon me

Scores:

QA 81.xx%ile
DI 78.xx%ile
VA 100%ile

OA 99.61%ile

congos bro!!!!

great scores.....especially VA ............ good to see someone from underdawgss getting 100 percentile..........it is special for oneself, i know!!:thumbsup:

hum logo ko VA ka gyaan kab se dena shuru kar rahe ho......????

kya baat hai Bhai.Keep it up,I mean just the VA part fod diya

Sorry for the spam.Couldnt resist.Scores dekhte hi pata chal gaya tha ki 99.9+ hai VA mein.But still,I guess the first 100 is always special specially with IMS

Btw,ye first 100 hi tha na.Sorry,if it wasnt It feels great to see you score this one :thumbsup:

Pehla hee 100 tha bhai! Waise score dekhke,it led me to a wide range of emotions.

From (yayy 100%ile) to (Ok.Not so impressive any more) to (kya bekaar scores hei DI aur QA mei) to finally (Bohot padhna baaki hei).

Abhi mei religiously fundae de sakta hu for Verbal!

Another one from rik_12..... UDT '08 Member
One month to go for the CAT-managing your strengths & weaknesses!

Courtesy :- Sanmeet Sidhu - Assistant General Manager - Mumbai, IMS in Blogs section of MyIMS forum.

"By now, you would have evolved as a "test taker" with certain identified strengths and weaknesses. One month to go for the CAT, you need to manage both your strengths and weaknesses and ensure that the resultant is upbeat.
Starting with the strengths, the first thing you need to do is to understand whether you have consistently done well in these areas to label them as strengths or was your performance purely incidental?
Incase of the first eventuality, the next issue you need to address is whether these areas emerged as strengths in a fair distribution of time across all sections/areas of the test or due to significantly more time allocated to these areas? If it is the first case, then it is infallibly a strength; you need to sustain the tempo and ensure that it stays as a cash cow for you. If it is the second case, you need to ensure that the same performance is upheld in a certain desirable time frame E.g. a student getting 99 %ile in one section because of spending proportionately more time in this section and doing abysmally poor in the others, can not brand the first section as his/her strength. You need to sacredly anchor on to an instruction which requires you to be competent across all sections of the test.

Incase of the second eventuality, that is, when your performance in the so called "strong areas" is a consequence of random flukes, you have to immediately stop cheating yourself, categorize it as a weakness and revamp your approach vis--vis these areas.
Coming to weaknesses, you need to understand the core reasons for not doing well in these areas, wherein the following have been identified as the most common ones, with their corresponding remedies:-
Inherent dislike for these areas, due to which students start ignoring them. For example, most of the students have a natural antipathy towards "permutations & combinations" and they start shying away from questions on this topic; consequently, even the easier questions on this topic get overlooked on that day and this adds to the "opportunity cost". You need to prepare all topics/areas of the test-which ones do you finally respond to or attempt would be a function of multiple variables.
Not being able to spend adequate time on these areas, due to which your performance gets marred. You need to apportion out judicious time to all sections of the test. Placing the sections appropriately along the time curve is a skill you need to master. The sequence of attempting the different sections would vary from one test taker to another and an equilibrium would evolve only over a period of time.
Incorrect prioritization and selection of questions due to which you end up picking "wrong" questions on that day. You need to be more vigilant and understand that wrong picks can ruffle up even the best of students!

While selecting questions, the following points need to be factored in:-

1. Do not pick up questions only because they are shorter than their bulkier counterparts. Shorter questions are not necessarily easier and vice versa.
2. Do not pick up questions only because they are from apparently simpler topics e.g, students typically prefer questions on arithmetic & algebra as compared to geometry & modern math.
3. Please ensure that you exhaust all ends of the section while selecting questions. Starting off in a sequence and not being able to reach the fag end of the section, because of dearth of time may keep you away from potential picks.

Conceptual flaws and loopholes in these areas, whereby they assume the proportions of "weaknesses". This requires an immediate attention to fundamentals and revisiting concepts. Unless the requisite conceptual clarity is there, application of these concepts would be a far fetched expression!
To summarize, "the one month to CAT" requires you to leverage your strengths, hone your weaknesses and formulate a smart strategy to approach the test. The most important thing is not to lose heart or feel that it's just too late. There have been others in your position and they have made it to the top through sheer focus and pragmatic time management. "

An awesome post by Greenspan...last yrs BBLT...



Don't count on the month of November, coz we could not count on that month in the last two years, twice in a row. Instead catch the CAT by its tail, and solve mostly previous CAT papers in that month.

What you do in the one month that starts in a few days, will decide how you perform in the test you have prepared for years. Need I stress the importance anymore?

VA: The nemesis for a talented many, including yours truly, can only be conquered by regular work. It begins in office, where try to read good quality articles online, in even the 5 min break you take off. This will decide whether you will read the bibles of management or the requirements document of your work in the next year. You choose!

RCs will make or break your C day. 2-3 difficult RCs are a must everyday in the following month. How to identify difficult RCs, I hear you say. A pointer- all IMS papers this year, GMAT RCs (because they are almost always inferential). Or else, go through any RC you encounter, and if you find that you are not confused between 2-3 options atleast, leave that and go to the next one. Until you find the one, and do it religiously. Remember 2-3 RCs minimum for the next 30 days. Increasing reading speed will help you read Q and DI sections faster too.

I hear a score many people talk about their poor vocab. This is CAT, not GRE! Wake up! Take all the mocks or verbal sectionals you have given until now, and circle words that you are not familiar with. Use a dictionary or preferably "wordweb.exe" (google it and install it on your comp). Visit them often, and I bet this will suffice. In fact, I have bet my dreams on it myself.

FIJs, Critical Reasoning, Parajumbles, etc. Fix a day for each type, and get out all your mocks and solve all the questions of that type then and there.

In the exams, remember if the VA/RC is easy (hold last year's CAT as the standard), its imperative you attempt atleast 80% of the questions. If it is as tough as the last year, and lesser no. of questions, go slow. Vary your pace depending on the weightage of the marks of the VA questions, however easy it may seem.


QA: Identify your subjects of strengths, and become stronger in them. If CAT throws a tough paper, and if you realize it in 10 min, go straight to the questions of your strength. Again use your mocks, and go through all of the questions of a particular topic at the same time. Or do the highest difficulty problems in that topic from a Quant specific book (like Arun Sharma or Trishna's).

If QA comes tough, the sitters will vary from person to person depending on his strengths. If it comes easy, there will be sitters identified by many. Know the basic concepts of all topics so that you do not miss out on a "general" sitter.

Stop going for complex concepts and studying them at this stage. It doesnt take a complex probability+weightages quants problem to make out that the returns for the effort is negligible.

DI/LR: Every DI/LR set that is average to tough, will have one point of logic which will differentiate the few from the many. Amogst the few, the ones who play around that point of logic faster, will excel. So it is important that you get both the point and the speed. TIME DI sets are good in that way. I advise you to go for each DI/LR set in this way.
-read the set and try visualizing the problem. As Basil/Mantri once mentioned, almost always every statement there is there for a purpose. Then read the questions fast, sometimes they give you an idea of approach. If tough to understand, read it again. If you know you can do it but will take time, go to the next set.
-Read the questions and identify the sitters of that set. Both CAT and TIME papers apparently do not give you sitters in the first question. They are not trying to teach you A,B,C! Sometimes these sitters also tell you the intermediate step you have to reach to solve the whole set.
-If its a table or arrangement that you are making, underline those statements that you have already made use of in the table/arr. This will ensure that you do not miss out on any of the statements.

A note on making use of mock papers: At any point of time you encounter something new that you have learned, mark it( I do it with a "L"). If there is some really tough question that you could not make head or tail of, mark it too (i do it with a "X"). Questions that you sailed through, do not bother to mark. This will help in revision of the mocks.
A note on attitude
You know why the IIMs take the pain of a 2.5 hr paper to judge you? Because the technology doesn't exist, and if it does it is too costly. All they need is a stealth equipment which will measure people's heart rate. And they will give out calls to those whose hearts are not beating harder when the papers are being handed out.

If you have given CAT atleast once, you will definitely have noticed this: You will try redoing/ rereading the questions more than once. Or still be overcautious. Unlike what you do in mocks.

Why? Expectations? Last chance? Ridicule? Self-esteem?
Over and out everywhere you have heard people tell go watch a movie before the D day, or meditate, or simply "take it cool".

Yes, even I have experienced it twice in a row myself. The only difference this time around will be what I know now. And what I know now, from reliable sources (including Prem) is, assuming your CAT prep is sound, the amount of prep you have put in until now is 20% of what you will have to shell out for the GD/PI stage. And the amount of prep for both the CAT and GD/PI prep together will be 2% of what you will put in your b-school! The message that goes out in the IIMs unofficially, is that, they will make your life such a hell, that when you come out, you will always say "this is atleast better than college". This has been a source of inspiration, curiosity and attitude for me. I tell myself - Oh! This is just the beginnning. And trust me, most people faltered (including myself) because they thought CAT was the END! Think about this again.

On a personal note:
If you already knew all this, this was not for you.

If you understand this, realize it, make use of it and crack it - I hope to meet you there.

If you understand this, realize it, make use of it and are unable to crack it - I am sure I am not leading you down a wrong direction.

If you say "big deal", do not do it, and still crack it - You might be high already, but I can jump higher than you. Will get even with you in life.

If you say "big deal", do not do it, and do not crack it - You did not deserve to be there in the first place.

May reason be with you.
Greenspan

SIMCAT-8 results out! I should either be really happy about it or my college should revoke the degree they conferred upon me

Scores:

QA 81.xx%ile
DI 78.xx%ile
VA 100%ile

OA 99.61%ile

kya baat hai Bhai.Keep it up,I mean just the VA part fod diya

Sorry for the spam.Couldnt resist.Scores dekhte hi pata chal gaya tha ki 99.9+ hai VA mein.But still,I guess the first 100 is always special specially with IMS

Btw,ye first 100 hi tha na.Sorry,if it wasnt It feels great to see you score this one

SIMCAT-8 results out! I should either be really happy about it or my college should revoke the degree they conferred upon me

Scores:

QA 81.xx%ile
DI 78.xx%ile
VA 100%ile

OA 99.61%ile

Key Learning from yesterday's conference:

Do not invite Tanmay Keshav(a.k.a. Freakinda) for conferences.Tanmay these days has lost the ability to think above his pants!

On a serious note,detailed post by today afternoon.

Mohit (phdis) ka request aaya hai. Keep the next conference around 7 PM. Due to constraints, he's not able to attend late night conferences.

@VR

please upload the transcript of yesterday's confy........... could not be the part once again:banghead:

anyways......is week ka plan bhi post kar de bhai!!!

Aur kal ke transcript ka kya karoge! Conference general bakar vala tha- nothing serious. No 'plan' or 'roadmap' was discussed. Everyone knows what areas need to be improved, so I'd suggest you concentrate on the same. However, if you do need a plan, the plan suggested a week back looks alright ..I'm pretty sure everyone's fallen way behind that plan.

I am still concentrating on DI, but I try to do something or the other from every section. 15 mins of fast reading (something verbose), brush up a few concepts in QA (chapterwise) and DI sets from AIMCATS. That's about 3 hours.

Add to that a good movie (part of my prep!) and I have 5-6 hours of serious HARDCORE prep! Pun not intended! :D

Cheers!

hey all......

dont miss out the first paragraph of AIMCAT 1002 analysis by TIME people.... it proves that what the underdawggsss in AIMCATs can do on C-Day....

i love the stats which they mentioned from their archives....

Got a 99 after what feels like eternity

Although its showing " No info available against your id card no. , my NAME is there in the toppers list 1st page
Its showing my id as KACMOHIT !!!!!!!!!!!

Anyways scores :
DI : 30
QA : 37
VA : 32
OA : 99 (99.27)

Good to finally get some confidence in VA
Giving CL PROC 7 tomorrow.

@rajaramvarun
sahi bol rahe ho bhai. Ihave felt the same. Tanmay has sure changed. For the good or for the evil, we'll find out soon

confusing week-post#8

61) worst:least best / wurst:sausage (Finely chopped and
seasoned meat)
62) won't:contraction of "will not"
wont:
1. Accustomed or used: "The poor man is wont to complain that this is
a cold world"
2. Likely: chaotic as holidays are wont to be.

63) while: during
wile: 1. A stratagem or trick intended to deceive or ensnare.
2. A disarming or seductive manner, device, or procedure: the
wiles of a skilled negotiator.
3. Trickery; cunning.
tr.v. wiled, wiling, wiles
1. To influence or lead by means of wiles; entice.
2. To pass (time) agreeably: wile away a Sunday afternoon.

64) vale: valley / veil: gauzy fabric (Burka :))

65) tort: n. Law
Damage, injury, or a wrongful act done willfully, negligently, or in
circumstances involving strict liability, but not involving breach of
contract, for which a civil suit can be brought.
torte: A rich cake made with many eggs and little flour and
usually containing chopped nuts.

@dish tv

qqad 4 ke answer post kar de bhai!!!

ps: i received a mail today containing pics of IIM-K....anyone interested can PM me his email id ...

Well it so happens that I was part of most of the conference but I think I missed the last 15 minutes or so because of my Internet Connection which was on a holiday for most of the day.

I will talk to some of the people who were present till the end of the conference and ask them to come up with a detailed post summarising yesterday's conference.

Key Learning from yesterday's conference:

Do not invite Tanmay Keshav(a.k.a. Freakinda) for conferences.Tanmay these days has lost the ability to think above his pants!

On a serious note,detailed post by today afternoon.

@VR

please upload the transcript of yesterday's confy........... could not be the part once again:banghead:........i sent you SMS mentioning the reason of my absence.....bad luck for me!!!

anyways......is week ka plan bhi post kar de bhai!!!

bhai log koi kal ka conference ka transcriptb upload karo.......i could not be a part of it due to technical glitches:banghead:....prem sir aye the kya???

Well, UDT is going great guns Indeed...
Score Update And QQAD - 4

Sorry Guys, Was Not Able to Come Over and Subscribe to this thread from few days, but from now on, would be regular here.

QQAD - 3
Attempted - 17
Correct = 11
Wrong = 6 :-(
Score => 11*8 - 6*2 - 8*0.5 = 72..

Pour In With Your Scores So That we can have some limelight on Cut-Offs.

PS: Posting QQAD - 4
PPS: @VR, gimme a ping when you are On with Confy.:)


Sorry, Guys, Due to utter negligence, I uploaded the file having answer key.Please be true to yourself and don't look at the answers...Attaching the file that doesn't have the key....:banghead: me

prem_ravi Says

Mostly would join...varun, send me an invite

Sir you'll be giving most of the gyan! :)

Agenda ke liye we could decide on a plan for the next one week like was decided for the last week.Address any weaknesses that people might have.If Sinchan could make it to the conference too then we'll have 2 UDT stalwarts in our midst to take some gyaan.

On other Gtalk windows please PM me any questions you might need to ask Sinchan or Prem Sir with regards to prep or other issues.I think we dont get too many chances to interact with them.If someone can contact Sinchan and get in touch with him for tonight's conference that'll be great.PM me before 10PM.

@Naga: Please PM me Prem Sir's Gtalk ID.

confusing week-post#7

51.Corrals: enclosure for cattle
Chorales: song sung in choir

52.Mendicity: state of being a beggar
Mendicant: Being untruthful

53. Torte: Rich cake with fruits and nuts
Taut: Pulled tightly

54. Wit: Mental ability
Whit: Tiny amount

55. Solecism: socially awkward act
Solipsism: Philosophical theory that self is all that you know to exist

56. Abstruse: deep
Obtuse: dull- slow to understand

57. Moot: Open to debate
Moor: Open land

58. Gawk: look stupidly with amazement
Gaunt: very thin

59. Indignant: outraged
Indigent: poor

60.Forebodings: premonitions
Forbidding: preventing

confusing week-post#6

39.Platonic: Passionless
Plutonic:Of Igneous rock that has sodified beneth the surface of the earth

40. Sheer:Complete,Absolute
Shear:Cut,Trim

41. Palate:Roof of the mouth
Palete: Painter's equipment

42. Imminent:about to happen
Eminent:Reputed/Famous/Respected
Immanent:Inherent or Intrinsic

43. Nay:no
Neigh:Cry of the horse

44. Ambivalent:Having mixed feelings
Ambiguous:Having more than one meaning

45. Piteous:Showing pity in the manner which shows you are better than them
Pitying: Deserving pity

46. Horde: Disparaging term used for a large group of people
Hoard:A store of something valuable

47. Principal:first in order of importance
Principle:A basis of a system of thought or belief

48. Perceptive: Connected with seeing,hearing or understanding
Perceptible:Great enough for you to notice it

49. Petrified:So frightened as to be unable to move
Putrified: Decay with an offensive smell

50. Journey:Used in all kind of journeys
Voyage:Used only in case of sea journeys

2 days-------->and half-century...not bad...

Mostly would join...varun, send me an invite

Venue: Gtalk

Time: 10PM

Agenda: Undecided

Inputs for agenda needed.If I am still to add anyone on Gtalk please PM me your Id.

P.S: We can have an exclusive UDT conference(much needed) on Sunday afternoon.Please confirm your availability then.

Tonight is perfect :thumbsup:...but preferably after 10:30..

Regarding da agenda...along wid da topics raised by SonuInfy n Vision bhai, deciding priority list of things to do in da next couple of weeks...i say dis bcoz we're having so many mocks in such a small interval of time dat evrythng else(read: analysing,taking sectional tests etc) is taking a backseat ...weekends spent giving two mocks doesn't leave much tym for nethng else..help on dis aspect will b greatly appreciated :lookround:

@varun...UDT confy on Sunday is a wonderful idea..but plzzzzz not in da afternoon...have Proc 7 scheduled :|..both saturday night n sunday night r ok wid me..won't b able 2 attend if it's in da afternoon :-(

Regards..

I have decided that from today onwards, i will take one full length test every alternate day. Today gave last yr aimcat 0918
Went well
Scores
DI : 32 (92)
QA : 62 (99.6)
VA : 52 (97)
OA : 99.65
Of course there is a big diff bw giving at home n at centre, but still happy. Especially for va. It is improving. Now i believe in myself more than ever. QA has always been my forte though the scores have fluctuated a lot.
@ rajaramvarun
Thanx 4 keeping a confy in afternoon time. But keep it after 2 as i have 1003 till 1 pm.
Thanx
Weekly plan -
28-10 0918
30-10 cl proc 7
01-11 1003
03-11 0917

Venue: Gtalk

Time: 10PM

Agenda: Undecided

Inputs for agenda needed.If I am still to add anyone on Gtalk please PM me your Id.

count me in for the confy ( mera lappy to kharaab hai, room partner's lappy will b free....so, i l be there :thumbsup:)

anyways, for agenda thing......i think ...

best thing will be to design the roadmap for coming 1 month before C-Day.....

Secondly, we have specialists from all sections ( VA Gurus jaago plzzzz :sneaky:), so they can help by guiding in their respective areas by prioritizing topics/variety of problems to be taken care of during the last 30 days battle....

and ya.....the most important thing...... all should be done with CRTs and CAT 2008 paper along with RCs from Kaplan ...with a common schedule for all ( as far as possible) ..and then analysing them together....... we can discuss about it in confy!!

Been a really slow week. Loads of mocks lined up for next week.CL proc mock 7 in another few hours.Preparation has been stagnant because the body hasn't been keeping up.

All situations demanding a conference! We will have a conference tonight @ 10PM. Please inform anyone and everyone you know about the conference.

Venue: Gtalk

Time: 10PM

Agenda: Undecided

Inputs for agenda needed.If I am still to add anyone on Gtalk please PM me your Id.

P.S: We can have an exclusive UDT conference(much needed) on Sunday afternoon.Please confirm your availability then.

Major...
Ageda should be the final plan for 2 weeks..
All memebers should be full-fledged prepared for the inputs..

I hope jab 10-25 minds ek sath aayenge to we can conquer this...

guys,
Jo aapke strongest areas hain un sabhi pe detailed plan banao before confy ..we'll discuss the feasibility of the plan and 'll act accordingly...

I'll try to consolidate everything I have, so that we'll not have redundant data...

I hope this is fine with everybody...

Cheers,
SSR

Been a really slow week. Loads of mocks lined up for next week.CL proc mock 7 in another few hours.Preparation has been stagnant because the body hasn't been keeping up.

All situations demanding a conference! We will have a conference tonight @ 10PM. Please inform anyone and everyone you know about the conference.

Venue: Gtalk

Time: 10PM

Agenda: Undecided

Inputs for agenda needed.If I am still to add anyone on Gtalk please PM me your Id.

P.S: We can have an exclusive UDT conference(much needed) on Sunday afternoon.Please confirm your availability then.

Here is the link to the thread dedicated to homonyms (confusing words ).....
here first the set of questions is posted and then the solution with detailed meaning of all the homonyms present in the set.....

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/english-resources/44418-commonly-confused-words.html

though many of us might be aware of this...... but , if anybody didn't visit this thread till now.....now, he can visit it!!
It will surely be an addition to your vocab database!!!

@SonuInfy

dude, good to see that you are trying to help everyone from homonyms front for time being...

just a request, please try to avoid quoting the previous homonym list by expectation in the post which contains your new list........quoting the previous list unnecessarily makes the post lengthy.....

hope that the suggestion is taken positively.....

Confusing Week Post#4

21)Adverse-Unfavourable
Averse-Strong feeling of opposition
22)Affect-makes a difference to
Effect-as a result of
23)Apprise-To inform
Appraise-To assess
24)Auger-Device for boring something
Augur-Soothsayer / Prophet/a sign
25)Censure-To criticize in a vehement manner
Censor-supervising the suitability of a person or a product
26)Credible-Believable
Creditable-Praise worthy
27)Militate-To have a substantial effect
Mitigate-To make less severe
2Perspicuously-Clearly expressed or lucid
Perspicacious-Having keen mental perception and understanding
29)Venal-Susceptible to bribery
Venial-Excusable,small

Well done ..Jab 'main' aur 'tum' se 'HUM' ho jaate hain to jyada maza aata hai...

Confusing Week Post#5

30) Persecution : harassment ; maltreatment ; bullying ; discrimination
Prosecution: hearing in court

31) coddling: verb
1. To cook in water just below the boiling point: coddle eggs.
2. To treat indulgently; baby.
Synonyms : pamper.

codling: noun
small, unripe apple ; young codfish

DD --> Pamper ...Single D --> Eatable noun

32) cops: police officers (noun)
verb: 1) To take unlawfully or without permission; steal
imp word for 5 usage of a given word..
please visit Cops - definition of Cops by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
copse:a small wood (noun)

33) craft : a manual occupation special by hand (noun and verb )
kraft : a strong paper made from wood pulp (noun only)

Handicraft...KenWood (K--> wood)

34) discreet : confidential (adj)
discrete : individual (adj) : Syn : distinct

I am Creating Individuals and keeping these acts confidential... (just to remember otherwise main to Sadhu baba hoon yaar )

35) grays: more than one shade of black
graze: to eat grass while wandering (noun / verb)

Graze: English people are called Angrez because, they have "grazed" all Indian prosperity

36) greave: leg armor (noun)
grieve (verb): To cause to be sorrowful; distress ; feel grief

It grieves me to see DishTv in such pain


37) heal : to cure of disease
heel : hind part of foot

3 ordinance: (noun) an authoritative regulation, decree, law, or practice
ordnance: artillery(noun) ...

I ni to artillery ni to decree

Chalo bhai log aaj ka quota poora hua...

i have to say a big thank you to all guys who have put in the homonyms (i believe they are called) here!

It makes a lot of sense to give direction to your CAT preparation.
And this will help...!

At this moment......people finding it difficult to devote time to good reading(for vocab) or wordlists can make use of these posts!

I am pretty sure everyone must have a noticed it.....In the last few AIMCATs and CL mocks...paper setters haven't been very generous with their choices in homonym questions....so much so that it all boils down to knowing one single homonym pair

That is where these practice exercises are useful.

Confusing Week Post#4

21)Adverse-Unfavourable
Averse-Strong feeling of opposition

22)Affect-makes a difference to
Effect-as a result of

23)Apprise-To inform
Appraise-To assess

24)Auger-Device for boring something
Augur-Soothsayer / Prophet/a sign

25)Censure-To criticize in a vehement manner
Censor-supervising the suitability of a person or a product

26)Credible-Believable
Creditable-Praise worthy

27)Militate-To have a substantial effect
Mitigate-To make less severe

2Perspicuously-Clearly expressed or lucid
Perspicacious-Having keen mental perception and understanding

29)Venal-Susceptible to bribery
Venial-Excusable,small

guys .. go thru DishTVs post in this thread ..

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/43743-the-shout-boxers-team-09-a-40.html#post1708013

dish bhaiyaa .. thanks a lot for coming up with that ..

u just summed up everything in there.. why I want to MBA ..

I know my strengths ( not only aptitude based ) .. and I know only thru an MBA can I do justice to them ...( rather cliched answer for why MBA ) ..

Cheers to UDT spirit .. keep it rolling ..

Amen

hi...though i m not a part of udt...but following udt from a long time...nd has also got immense help frm this place:

so 2 paise frm my side for the confusing week:

confusing week:post#2
1.elicit (draw forth)
illicit (improper)
2.eminent (noteworthy)
imminent (impending)
3.ensure (make certain)
insure (indemnify)
4.envelope (noun)
envelop (verb)
5.everyday (ordinary)
every day (each day)
6.exercise (activity)
exorcise (drive out)
7.fair (just)
fare (food; fee)
8. faze (disturb)
phase (stage)
9. formerly (at an earlier time)
formally (according to a pattern)
10.forth (forward)
fourth (follows third)
lets make out the longest list of confusing words...

Thanks yaar..this post reminded me 1 song "1 akela thak jaye to mil ke bojh uthana"...

26 Oct - 1 nov : Confusing week post #3 (from office :biggrin:)

16) affluence/effluence (Noun)
Wealth brings affluence (Richness); sewage is effluence ( toxic waste ).


17) afterwards/afterwords

Like towards, forwards, and homewards, afterwards ends with -wards.
Afterwords are sometimes the explanatory essays at the ends of books or
speeches uttered at the end of plays or other works. Th ey are made up of words.

1 aide/aid

In American English, an aide is a personal assistant (nurses aide, presidential
aide) but an inanimate object or process is always an aid (hearing aid, fi rst aid).

19) aisle/isle
An aisle is a narrow passageway, especially in a church or store; an isle is an
island. Propose to the person youre stranded on a desert isle with and maybe
youll march down the aisle together after youre rescued.

20) all for not/all for naught

Naught means nothing, and the phrase all for naught means all for
nothing. This is often misspelled all for not and occasionally all for knot.



Chalo nahii to office se bahar phenk diya jaoonga..abhi ke liye inna hee..

Cheers,
SSR

Suhan Sir's Bday today!

Follow the link below to the thread:

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/pagalguy-community-events-pg-meets/45401-27-oct-2009-happy-birthday.html#post1707774

All credit to Naga for starting the thread!

today suhan bday

wish him here :http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/pagalguy-community-events-pg-meets/45401-27-oct-2009-happy-birthday.html#post1707742

Score update...Aimcat 1004..

OA 97.84 %ile wid a score of 90 :)
Decent score nothing too gr8...but happy abt da fact dat i cleared all sections...including DI (after quite some time)
Looking to build on it..

@team...gr8 scores guys..keep rocking :cheerio:

Regards..

Good times on da thread!...prem bhai is back ..mock scores r improving(at least relative to a couple of weeks back :|) n ppl r discussing what to watch as relaxation!

@varun(raja ram 'verman'?!!:shocked:---for ppl getting confused ask BMR for clarification :-P).....no harm losing a few matches..wht matters is da EPL championship

@varun(vision bhai).....ur scores hv been fab over a long tym..a couple of bad scores now is ok...u'll soon b back wid phodofying performances..:thumbsup:(hope da same applies to me...mera to pura sinusoidal curve chal raha hain:lookround:)

Regards..

hi...though i m not a part of udt...but following udt from a long time...nd has also got immense help frm this place:

so 2 paise frm my side for the confusing week:

confusing week:post#2
1.elicit (draw forth)
illicit (improper)
2.eminent (noteworthy)
imminent (impending)
3.ensure (make certain)
insure (indemnify)
4.envelope (noun)
envelop (verb)
5.everyday (ordinary)
every day (each day)
6.exercise (activity)
exorcise (drive out)
7.fair (just)
fare (food; fee)
8. faze (disturb)
phase (stage)
9. formerly (at an earlier time)
formally (according to a pattern)
10.forth (forward)
fourth (follows third)
lets make out the longest list of confusing words...

Mocks are meant to be Mocks..I saw couple of posts in the previous pages where people were demotivated with the way Mocks are going..Believe be a good performance in the Mocks gives you an added confidence & also remember a bad performance in the mocks doesnt have any final say in your actual CAT provided you belive so..



All the best

Nice to have u back prem bhai .. we desperately need motivation and help from u here ..

will PM u my no. soon ..

Thanks

26 Oct - 1 nov : Confusing week post #1
1)Climactic / Climatic

Climactic
The adjective climactic derives from the noun climax. It pertains to a peak, a decisive moment or the point of greatest tension.

Examples:

In the climactic scene of the movie, the aliens emerge from the capsule and start zapping the onlookers.

Who would have thought that the season would have ended in such a climactic way?
Climatic
The adjective climatic derives from the noun climate. It pertains to the weather.

Examples:

Climate change is defined as the long-term significant change in the expected patterns of weather.

His assessment on the eco-climatic system over Africa is based solely on satellite data.



2)Complacent / Complaisant


Complacent adjective means self-satisfied or smug and derives in part from the Latin verb placere (to please). Example:
He felt complacent about his excellent examination results.
(Mnemonic: Company mein placement ... ho gaya ab i am fully satisfied with myself )

Complaisant adjective means eager to please or obliging. An example of its use is:
He had thought she might oppose him, but found that she was surprisingly complaisant.
(Mnemonic: com + plais(please) + ant come and please the a(u)nt..lol)
Syn: obliging



3)Prescribe and Proscribe
Prescribe: (verb) issue commands or orders for (Word related to prescription)
Synonyms: dictate , order
Proscribe: (verb) command against
"I forbid you to call me late at night", "Mother vetoed the trip to the chocolate store", "Dad nixed our plans"
Synonyms: disallow , forbid , interdict , nix , prohibit , veto
Mnemonic: When you want a magazine, you PREscribe(subscribe) it. Similarly when you want to stop it, you will have to PROSCRIBE. SO PROSCRIBE = prohibit
In other words, If you are studying at college your set texts are prescribed, while texts that you are not allowed to read are proscribed


4)Fortuitous and Fortunate
Fortunate (adj) means lucky, derived from the word fortune, which means luck, either good or bad. The Romans thought of fortune as a goddess who could be for you or against you.

Fortuitous (adj) derives from the Latin fortuitus meaning, by chance, accidental. So a fortuitous meeting is an accidental meeting, rather than a lucky one.

E.g. It is fortuitous that the increased security arrangements after the blast of July 2008 prevented any Indian casualty from last Thursdays repeat attack on the Indian Embassy in Kabul.



5)Anyway, Any Way, or Anyways?

Anyway is an adverb, and it means regardless or in any event:
Marshalls grades have slipped, but he plans to apply to Harvard anyway.

Any way is a paired adjective and noun meaning any particular course, direction, or manner:
Chloe is willing to help Marshall prepare for the SAT in any way she can.

Then we have anyways, a colloquial corruption of anyway. Its universally considered nonstandard and should be avoided altogether. It might help to remember that anyway is an adverb, and adverbs cant be plural.

P.S. Expecting some posts on confusing pair of words...

To be contd...

cheers,
SSR

This post is for those
1) Who say "My VA is pathetic..in shorts, it sucks..donno what gonna happen on D-day?"
2) Like me..who scored 91+ %ile to odd 35%ile (yes bhaiyon this true)..which is nothing but Newton's 3rd law of motion i.e. every action has its opposite reaction.

Lemme tell u my story (khuch khass nahii par intersting to hai hee)...

I've seen the outputs of my inputs very clearly...

I scored 30-60%ile ...without any efforts in my initial mock CATs...
U.P. se hoon to angrezi to aap samjh hee sakte ho...

Then after that I bought Wren n martin...started reading The Hindu edi...aur bas 1 novel.."I too had a love story" this is the first novel I finished completely...25 saal ki umar mein bas 1 hee novel...(sounds weird but this is true..) ...And as a result I scored 91%ile in 1007..phir kya tha laga ki sab theek thaak hai..quit reading everything ...Results..75%ile followed my 60%ile and finally 33%ile in 1004..

I know what to do now..Reading approx 50 pages on weekdays (in office) and 200 on weekends and religiously reading The hindu Editorial will be more than sufficient to get 99+ in CAT 09 ..I know agar yehi chalta raha to 'll get 99%ile + in CAT-09 ..(Confidence to hai atleast...)

Chalo ab analysis pe aate hain ...

CAT 2008

4 questions on Homonyms ..(broach/brooch ; councillor/counselor etc)
4 questions on Grammar
4 questions fill in the blanks
4 questions 5 usage of a very common word
4 questions on paracompletions
20 questions on RC



To bhaii total huyee 7 topics

1) RCs
2) PJs
3) Paracompletions
4) Grammar Usage
5) One word 5 meaning
6) FIJs
7) Homonyms / confusing words

Strategy

2) 1 topic per week except RCs..
a) Suppose u choose FIJs for this week..then U have to do Phd in this...
I mean jo kabhi aaya hai CAT mein ya mock Cat mein...ya PG prep mein hai ..try to finish it off ASAP...
b) Suppose you choose Homonyms / confusing words ..then 1 week is more than sufficient for research on these words...


Conclusion
1) Read as much as you can
2) Make ur weekly schedule topic wise..so that in the end you'll be confident that u have done a loads of research on these topics..
Captain, I appeal to declare forthcoming weeks as special week on specific topics... Like this week as CONFUSING Week (for Homonyms / confusing words )
3) don't ignore this section as I've seen guys scoring 99 + % in DI and quant and just 50-60 in this section. Tragedy yehi hai is topic ki u can never be sure of the answers...
e.g. My roomate (Ashraf_the_ace) has got 99.95 %ile in 2007 CAT and 99%ile somethin in CAT 2008..AIMCATs mein he is scoring the same but in some mocks he too get 91..(In 1007 we got same marks...)

In short, those who are getting even 1%ile can get (100-1)%ile on D-day in this section because this is a section highly unpredictable provided that U have been following the golden rules ..This Can be conquered easily , trust me...

I hope we'll have a few activities on this going forward...

Cheers,:thumbsup:
SSR

Guys need help in DI though am not a member of this group but have had descent scores all throughout(air 8 in aimcat 1004 and 99+ percentiles most of the times) but there are days when i go completely blank in DI and those are the days when the percentiles plument have even had 92 in aimcat1005.

Please tell me how you guys tackle your DI section and especially when to leave a question.

Hi puys.... am sorry for not posting on the thread since 3 days ...

i am struck hard by some disastrous scores...... am getting in the range of 85-95 %yl range since 1004....things not looking better in 1003 and 1002 even... hence, i read few motivating views of people getting into IIM...and shared with you all in above posts!!

just one positive in 1004 that i could clear VA cut off.....

anyways...... i have seen even worse scores last year......so, might be possible that am back on track soon in mocks...else definitely on C-Day

Things will look up Varun! Your scores have been good.A few hiccups shouldn't deter you too much.Great posts. Keep 'em coming.

Hi puys.... am sorry for not posting on the thread since 3 days ...

i am struck hard by some disastrous scores...... am getting in the range of 85-95 %yl range since 1004....things not looking better in 1003 and 1002 even... hence, i read few motivating views of people getting into IIM...and shared with you all in above posts!!

just one positive in 1004 that i could clear VA cut off.....

anyways...... i have seen even worse scores last year......so, might be possible that am back on track soon in mocks...else definitely on C-Day

Puys,

PFA the concept of seed numbers.

I hope this will be helpful.

Cheers,
SSR

Here is another abstract from same source as that of the previous one...

this one is dedicated to people like me.....who have verbal as nemesis and counter fluctuation in mock scores ...ranging from 99.5+ to low 80s.....

Tanuj Johri who scored in the 99.54 percentile in CAT and is a first year PGP student at IIM Lucknow , shares his CAT advice:

With just two weeks to go for CAT 2007, I can understand the tension that all the aspirants must be going through at this point of time. After all, I was in a similar situation just a year ago. But do remember that this is a very crucial stage in your preparation and you must have a definite plan over the next two weeks.
To crack CAT, you need to have a perfect mix of strategy and concepts. Merely dominating one aspect would not be enough to make you clear one of the most competitive exams in this world.
When you enter the examination hall, you must have a clear strategy in your mind about the sequence in which you will attempt the sections, approximate time that you will devote to each and the topics within each of the sections that you will attempt first. All these decisions will come from an analysis of your strengths and weaknesses, which you must have analysed by now through the various Mock CATs. (If you have not, do it now!)
The strategy that I followed was to work on my areas of strength first. So, in my case, I attempted DI and Quant first and left the Verbal section for last. This strategy helped me to attempt my strongest sections without any time constraints and that in fact helped me to complete these sections in lesser time.
Thus, by the time I reached the last hour, I had already built up my score and after that it was all about clearing the cut-off in the Verbal section. This strategy helped me to keep enough time for the Verbal section and allowed me to carry the confidence of my stronger sections to my weaker link.
However, CAT has always had a tendency to surprise the candidates by a change in the pattern and this demands a little bit of flexibility in your strategy. After all, as managers, you will be required to make quick decisions. But, a general framework about your strategy can always provide you an edge over others.
Also, do remember that the biggest surprise in store in this year's CAT could well be no change in the pattern!
For the next two weeks -- do things that come to you naturally. Do what you have been doing all your life during the last few days while preparing for exams. I am a person whom you will always find with a book in his hand till the last minute before an exam starts. I believe that this is my natural tendency and this is what I did when I took CAT.
I took around 15 Mock CATs in the two weeks preceding CAT and that helped me to be in the right frame of my mind on D-day. I seemed to have a familiarity with the exam, which would not have been possible had I stayed away from the preparations during the last few days. Just remember to adopt the strategy that suits you best; if you have always believed that relaxation is the best approach before an exam, go and chill out over the next few days; but if you have always been a last minute slogger (like me!), give your best efforts over the next two weeks. Believe me, it will make you feel much more confident.
However, avoid taking any new topics at this point of time and just concentrate on your areas of strength. After all, CAT is a test about how strong you are in your areas of strength and not about how weak you are in your areas of weakness.
So, good luck to all of you. My advice for those of you who have scored well in the Mock CATs so far -- just try and build up on your performance on D-day; and for those of you who haven't been lucky in this regard -- have faith in your abilities and just try and surprise everyone with your performance (just like I did!).

source: the biggest surprise could be no surprise

Hi guys.....online again from office...

@rahul...........bhai, abhi tak lappy theek nahi hua hai, probably by this weekend :-(

Anyways guys....great going.....here is something which i found on SBT thread....... found it very motivating...have a look

Anupam Chaudhury who scored 99.39 percentile in CAT and is a student of IIM Calcutta's Batch of 2008, shares his CAT advice:

~Review earlier mocks/FLTs
It would be in your best interest to review the mocks/FLTs you have already attempted. The aim should be to review those special questions which either introduced a new concept or required a different approach for solving. This is of immense help since if lady luck decides to smile on you, you might just get a question similar to one in those mocks. Atleast it happened to me for CAT-2005 and I think that was the clincher for me!
The second reason you must review those mock tests is to remind yourself of some of the silly mistakes you committed in them. You surely won't want to repeat any of those on the most important day. By now you should know the areas which are your pitfalls. It might be parajumbles or poems or geometry or something else. These areas should not be your first choice on the day of CAT. Only if you have run out of questions after the first stage of scanning should you come to these.
~ Practicing with mocks and earlier CAT papers
I believed it was a good idea to go into the exam-hall after having run a mini marathon and taken a small rest! What I'm suggesting here is something I tried myself and it worked for me. You can tinker it to suit your comfort level.
It may be a good idea to attempt about 5-6 full length papers during the last two weeks, attempting a mock every alternate day. This should be the final test for your strategy for CAT-2007. The day between the two mocks can be spent in analysis of earlier mocks, brushing up on some fundamentals and attempting a sectional test or two. There must be a sense of urgency by now which should ensure that you are able to review most of the mocks and sectionals you attempt now quickly. Out of these 6 mocks, atleast 3 should be the earlier CAT papers. This would ensure that you not only spend a good amount of time practicing but also get a flavour of the real CAT.
also suggest you choose these mocks/ sectionals across different coaching institutes. This would provide some variety. Don't get bogged down in case you happen to score low in one of these paper. Your only aim should be to meet all the sectional cut-offs in these papers and better your highest score. And, I suggest you don't calculate your score from the last mock!
~ 2 days before the CAT
You should not attempt any mocks at this stage. The best way to utilise this time is to pick up those books on quant fundamentals and brush up on the formulae, concepts and whatever else you had left for review during the last few days. Don't try anything new here! By this time you should begin to move away from the preparation mode. You may decide to go to office just like I did.
~ A day before the CAT
This day should be spent away from books. Spend time doing what you love the most. Catch a good movie, speak to people, go to office or do anything else other than discuss CAT. I would suggest you see a movie which inspires you to achieve and gives that adrenalin rush!
~ On C-Day
When you wake up, sit quietly for a few minutes. Tell yourself: "This is the day I have been waiting for -- this will be my Day! I won't falter and come what may I will fight till the last few seconds!" It may leave a few of you really charged up emotionally, which I'll say might just work. It did for me!
Have a good light breakfast. Before leaving for the CAT centre, pick up the newspaper. Read any article the fastest you can without bothering to comprehend. Think of some arbitrary numbers and add, multiply, divide them for next 2-3 minutes. This will be like a warm-up before the race and would ensure you get into the hall with your cerebral-machinery running.
Reach the examination centre with sufficient time in hand. When you receive the paper, read those instructions carefully. This would give you an idea of the number of questions and their split across different sections. The next few minutes can be utilised to modify your strategy if required. Eg. In CAT-2005, 2-mark questions were introduced. In those 15 minutes before 11am, I decided to spilt my 40 minutes for each section into 15-25 in favour of 1-mark and 2-mark questions respectively, the sequence remaining same.
Lastly, I would like to remind you all once again, the kind of mock scores you carry into the halls never matter. A guy with 99+ per cent in mocks could falter and a guy who scored less than 90 per cent could ace the exam! I have always believed that its all about those two hrs (now 2.5 hrs) which will change lives!
Someone told me once: "In the race of CAT, the first hour will see people fighting to stay in the race, the next 30 minutes will have only 5 percentile of people in the race and the last 30 minutes will see the winner emerge!"
So go in with a positive frame of mind, fight it out to the best of your abilities and be a winner.
ALL THE BEST!!!

Original source : 'I will fight till the last few seconds'

EnJoY rEaDiNg!!!