@0786vivek said: hi sir my cat score for 2011 was 86.16 %ile 10 th 76.16% 12th 65.3%, graudation 68.84 % fresher didnt apply anywhere this year ,does it was sufficient for any good college and what should i score for this time for iims ,fms or any good b school right now doing job in cmc lt

@shashankg13 said: ... you put your money on "your stupid and baseless research" that has been proved wrong. Shows the importance of a good research. Cheers.!

@acat2011 said: all right puys..one post of mine seems to have not been taken positively by a majority.nice to see people doing their own research as well which, i have been mentioning, is important and if someone finds anything important, it can be discussed.that is exactly what i did, in reply to a similar query. i never had this intention of creating confusion and whatever PM's i received , have been replied to, with exact details of my piece of info satisfactorily .but i think i made a mistake by putting such a volatile piece of info on a forum very casually.i apologise for that.PS: @torqtech: yes, buddy..its not done at IIMI.PPS: @shashankg13no hard feelings buddy...all the very best

@shashankg13 said: Dear puys, This guy @acat2011 says that we need to submit our parents ITR at the time of our GD/PI, to claim NC-OBC benefits. Please reply if it is so. Thanks Shashank @dead_alive, @coolestboyz, @torqtech, @losetowin, @notorious911,

@shashankg13 said: Dear puys,This guy @acat2011 says that we need to submit our parents ITR at the time of our GD/PI, to claim NC-OBC benefits. Please reply if it is so.ThanksShashank@dead_alive, @coolestboyz, @torqtech, @losetowin, @notorious911,

@dead_alive said: @shashankg13 I dont know anything about that ITR ... I dont think so , because NC-OBC is issued after submitting the income declaration to tahsildar , right ? then why again show the proof to someone else ?

@dead_alive said: @shashankg13 can u answer my query regarding last year cut offs for NC-OBC studs in IIFT,FMS,IIMs

@coolestboyz said: Hey my current address is of CITY - its "PATNA", but I've also another home in village where everybody knows my family, so dad is saying to make certificate signed by Village DM. Is it necessary to signed/make certificate by CITY's DM or from any place in that STATE? If i enter address in CAT of my CITY home, can i use NC-OBC certificate made at village address? plz clarify this ASAP.

@[460369:acat2011] said: @boombaat yup.some iim's demand ITR copy at the time of gd/pi ( as i have heard during the research) and that is the main thing for them.hope that helps

@dEVIL007 said: Well then YES, you can avail the benefits subjected to condition that you fall inside Non-Creamy layer.All the Best

@torqtech said: When I say that your NC-OBC status is not decided just by your parents income, I do not mean that your own income is to be considered. Ofcourse your own income or your spouse's income for that matter is of no relevance in deciding that status. But there are other criteria apart from your parent's income by which NC status is decided( for example in case of government employees). Look up onnet for other criteria apart from parents income.

@shashankg13 said: WRONG - NC-OBC STATUS IS DECIDED ONLY AND ONLY BY YOUR PARENTS INCOME. YOU CAN EARN A CRORE RUPEES AN YEAR BUT YOU ARE STILL AN NC-OBC IF THE INCOME OF YOUR PARENTS IS LESS THAN 4.5 LAKHS AN YEAR. YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS WITH ANY OBC CONVERT FROM PREVIOUS YEARS OR WITH ANY PERSON YOU WANT. As for your second part, you are absolutely spot-on. For scholarships and all you need to come up with your parents income slips in actual.

@acat2011 said: @shashankg13 you have definitely not understood the argument for which you are providing premises.which single word or line of my first post said that the candidate's itr is asked...when i say itr it is obvious candidate's parents itr as we all know that candidate's income is no bar in determining creamy status.regards.

@torqtech said: Let me put a fact in perspective here!! NC-OBC status is not decided just by income of parents, as is the popular view. Also IIMs do not have the right to decide if a candidate has that status or not. That responsibility lies with the tehsildar that signs your certificate. My understanding is that they ask for your parents income to check your eligibility for their welfare schemes like scholarships.

@shashankg13 said: You are still not sure of what you are saying. Let me put it this way. YOUR ITR does not serve any purpose in determining your NC status. It is your parents income that matters for NC determination. That has nothing to do with your ITR.

@acat2011 said: @shashankg13 you have definitely not understood the argument for which you are providing premises.which single word or line of my first post said that the candidate's itr is asked...when i say itr it is obvious candidate's parents itr as we all know that candidate's income is no bar in determining creamy status. regards.

@acat2011 said: the answer to your query has been answered by you only in the first line of your very next post.kindly be sure of yourself before declaring a piece of information " misleading".i mentioned in the brackets that it is exactly what i found in my own research and thought to share what i found.if anyone wants to know the whole thing can PM me.

@chirag1988 said: hey Puys,my OBC caste is: Luhar/Lohar/ Panchal 12011/88-98-BCC dt 06/12/1999 with this can i avail the OBC -NC quotas seats???plz help..

@notorious911 said: yes i checked that link and according CENTRAL LIST OF OTHER BACKWARD CLASSES (HARYANA) my community belongs to obc category so can i avail the benefits or not?

@shashankg13 said: Please do not share misleading statements. IIMs ask for ITR return for justification of your years of experience, not for the purpose of NC-OBC determination. As per your reply, I would ask what purpose would your ITR copy serve at the time of GD/PI?

@dEVIL007 said: GUYS, I see a lot of confusion regarding the OBC-NC certificate and wanted to share my view Friends, its just 3 odd months left for CAT and i think you all should be channelizing your energies on the preparation and not how to get a OBC certificate made easily. I'm saying so because the time you loose can help you master few concepts which might help you getting 98-99+ percentile where you wont even need an OBC certi. And as far as certificate is concerned, IIM's or for that matter any college gives you ample time to you for getting a new certificate, in case they arnt satisfied. Just see how it goes.CAT happens in Oct-Nov ----> results in Jan ---> GDPI in feb, march or april ---> Final results in march, april and may. Even if they ask you get a new OBC certificate in March (during your GD) you have 3 months for that as session starts for mid June in major B-schools. So, getting a new OBC- NC certi shouldn't be a problem. And even then you can't get a certificate made by then, they might give you some buffer time after you join the institute. SO guys, Focus on Preparation....If you can the opportunity to score a Good percentile why not grab it. It was just my view and experience , you all are welcomed to contradict it. PS : Dont shoot your query just because you have it, surf through the previous pages and see it might already be addressed by someone. Helps us to answer you people better ALL THE BEST GUYS !!!

@dEVIL007 said: hey,you can avail NC-OBC quota benefit only if u fall in Central OBC list. NO STATE OBC candidate can be benefited from this. just visit www.ncbc.nic.in/Centrallistifo... and check if you fall under national OBC or not.PS: I really didnt read so deep inside my OBC certificate before. since you mentioned it, even i have noticed those "resolutions" now

@navz0427 said: Guys need help...my father is a govt employee and his salary is greater than >4.5l/p.a ..does salary is considered while doing nc-obc certficate or just the desgination of the govt employee will be considered ?? and can anyone through some light about this point: "Parents of whom only the father is direct class 2 officer and he gets into class 1 at the age of 40 or earlier"

@dEVIL007 said: GUYS, I see a lot of confusion regarding the OBC-NC certificate and wanted to share my view Friends, its just 3 odd months left for CAT and i think you all should be channelizing your energies on the preparation and not how to get a OBC certificate made easily. I'm saying so because the time you loose can help you master few concepts which might help you getting 98-99+ percentile where you wont even need an OBC certi. And as far as certificate is concerned, IIM's or for that matter any college gives you ample time to you for getting a new certificate, in case they arnt satisfied. Just see how it goes.CAT happens in Oct-Nov ----> results in Jan ---> GDPI in feb, march or april ---> Final results in march, april and may. Even if they ask you get a new OBC certificate in March (during your GD) you have 3 months for that as session starts for mid June in major B-schools. So, getting a new OBC- NC certi shouldn't be a problem. And even then you can't get a certificate made by then, they might give you some buffer time after you join the institute. SO guys, Focus on Preparation....If you can the opportunity to score a Good percentile why not grab it. It was just my view and experience , you all are welcomed to contradict it. PS : Dont shoot your query just because you have it, surf through the previous pages and see it might already be addressed by someone. Helps us to answer you people better ALL THE BEST GUYS !!!

@notorious911 said: i have NC-OBC certificate for the state of haryana.. its about 20 days old. and my community fall under obc category according to Resolution No. & Date 12011/44/96-BCC dt. 06/12/1996 but last year's NC-OBC Certificate for cat mention these to categories only i. Government of India, Ministry of Welfare `Resolution No. 12011/68/93-BCC (C) dated 10th September, 1993 published in the Gazette of India Extraordinary Part-I Section-1 dated the 13th September, 1993. ii. Government of India, Ministry of Welfare Resolution No. 12011/9/94-BCC dated 19.10.1994 published in the Gazette of India Extraordinary Part-I, Section-1, No. 163 dated 20.10.1994. can i avail nc-obc benefits or not?

PS: I really didnt read so deep inside my OBC certificate before. since you mentioned it, even i have noticed those "resolutions" now

@shashankg13 said: Please do not share misleading statements. IIMs ask for ITR return for justification of your years of experience, not for the purpose of NC-OBC determination. As per your reply, I would ask what purpose would your ITR copy serve at the time of GD/PI?