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In the first 4 months nothing improved. just classes and some sectional tests. Never ever we were tested with actual papers. Then came the summer vacation. Convinced my parents and stayed back in vizag so that, i can attend classes as well as take some tests. But I have absolutely no plan or no idea of the amount of work to put in to crack CAT. Neither i am sure about what colleges i want to apply and what is it i am looking for in the whole ordeal. 2 months were a breeze
had to slog through.
98.9 .got calls from IIMB and IIML .
that night in order to divert my mind. Came back to home by 3 and tried unsuccessfully to sleep.
came to our college that year, and when I made it to final round of Interview, I could see disbelief in the eyes of some of my batch-mates. This unexpected performance really gave me a lot of confidence and helped me to get into one of the dream companies. Also I started preparations for CAT 06, joined two test series. But my percentiles were way low, in 70s and seeing that I did not stand a chance, I gradually started losing focus. Finally there was a bit of improvement, and I managed to touch 90s in a couple of them, however it was too late to consolidate.

"...so chala gaya

...CIK calls
as I wanted to crack English. Come 18 November 2007 and wholla - QA - 98.04%, EU - 97.97%ile
but DI - 56%ile
. And this marked my season, my luck was not on my side. No calls and end of season 2.
), JMET - 1294 (did not apply) and NMIMS (gave exam for FMS practise).



) when my brother came home one day with a brochure and paper in his hand- it was a test being conducted by IMS for scholarships for the CAT prep course. I was good in maths. So just went through that paper of IMS but, oh! ,I was unable to solve more than six-seven out of I think 30 questions
. Then my brother told me the shortcut to a few difficult ones- and lo , they appeared to be cakewalk after the explanation. I became interested. :
. After my class 10, I wanted to study commerce(as my whole family was into that line) but was forced to take science(the typical Indian mentality-science->eng->job)
.However, after my 12 board exams I could not give the eng entrance exams(call it my callousness or lack of preparation). I took admission in B.Sc (physics). But people in my locality(including friends) used to taunt me for not making it to engineering(as if it was the end of the world for me). After B.SC I took admission in B.Tech in Jadavpur University(the course was only for B.Sc. degree holders). My acads were pretty good.
). In 2007 I took up a job in a software company (just to stay in a city as I wanted to prepare fort CAT
). However , at that time I was not confident. In the office (though enjoyable in the beginning as you earn ur first salary) , I was just slogging. I was a good programmer(as per college standards) but over here I was just slogging , trying only to save my job. The colleagues were not very helpful ( thinking themselves to be the bonds
)and I could not understand the system(nobody helped me ,they were very busy every time
) . It was then that I decided to take CAT seriously, as I found that it was the only way out from this f**king place! 
if I make it to a good B-school( away from this coding shit)
. I started hating my job as the opprtunities were limited
. I used to get up at 7 in the morning and studied for 2 hours. I office I tried completing my work asap and sat down to solve a few QA/LR questions. In the evening, after I reached home, I sat down for 1-2 hours before dinner and then at 11 p.m to solve CAT papers
. In my office my peers and colleagues came to know about my prep and soon my position in office deteriorated. It became a hell for me
. But still i had just one goal in mind - CAT'08.
I started feeling less confident and the fear of failure crept in. Added to that the situation in office was killing me. I did not know what to do if I failed in CAT. In August I bought the last years test papers of IMS and TIME. In the night from 11p.m-1.30a.m. I usd to solve the papers . But the performance was not satisfactory:banghead:. QA was my strongest followed by DI/LR and then VA/RC. However, i was constantly scoring poor marks in QA. I still remember that the 3rd mock was my best when I scored a good 120 out of 300. But still the percentiles never improved. I was frustated. I started talking to people who had CAT experience
- they told me that you need atleast 95 %tile in your mocks. I was nowhere near. But then , my brother helped me(though he never appeared for CAT:cheerio:). He told me to ignore the performance in MOCKS and just concentrate on the various kind of problems - the variety- as the real CAT is totally different from the MOCKS. This piece of advice worked. I was no longer worried about the 80 odd percentiles that I was scoring - though I was always trying to improve.
. I left for home just before Diwali in October'08 stating jaundice in my office. Once in home I started dedicatedly preparing for CAT. In the morning I used to go through the materials and then from 11 a.m to 1.30p.m I used to solve one paper. In the evening I followed a similar routine. I decided that accuracy is the one that I am going to aim for in QA and DI. In English it was just the opposite- i would aim for speed.:grin:

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.5 minutes and three done , but then DI was not so easy. 50 minutes gone and I had done 11.
- I just hate this job. Attended the other exams -SNAP,IIFT,NMIMS and XAT. Then came the results season. IIFT (missed by 1 mark). Tension was creeping in for 9th Jan(the CAT results day). Then it came . Wow! I had three calls B,I and L( I thanked GOD heartily). Great! Now I can go the office with pride.On 10th came the Snap results. Managed calls from SIBM(pune & bangalore).,SCMHRD and SIIB. NMIMS(I missed by 8 marks). XAT-disaster. But these did not matter any more.I started my GD/PI prep and ultimately conquerd IIM-Indore.
. Even my manager! Wow! I love it . Just waiting for my notice period to end and say bye-bye to this office and job.
. After completing my engineering got a job in a Decent MNC. I had a profile of Sales and Marketing, company given Ford Ikon, I thought that MBA is not required for me. Many of my friends in the company were preparing but i never thought i will ever prepare for CAT. Many oldies in the company also told me that. In the first year I thought the same way.After around a lil over 2 years I was really sucked up with my job. Really wanted to run away. Then I thought of giving CAT. If I would clear CAT I would be the amongst the last ones from batch to go into MBA. This was infact my last chance coz if I did not, i would ve been a married man
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. CAT was gone, then started giving other exams. But again job kept coming in. With great lies, setting, jugad was able to give the other tests. Mostly it was like Sat night I come back and Sunday I gave the tests.
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But then I wanted an official confirmation, and more importantly about the BIG 3 - A,B,C. At night, I came to know that I am not in the list released by B. My anxiety acquired a new dimension - couldn't sleep the whole night. At around 6, woke up from bed knowing there is no use of trying to sleep. Came to know that L had put its official link - my convert was retained there. A sigh of relief - I am heading to an IIM atleast. But needed to know what happened with A,C desperately. Then came the C result - I gathered myself, entered my TR No. and DOB and then came the message - "Congratulations...." - it felt like I had attained nirvana. Waited for A result and I had converted that as well.
That's why I had chosen the commerce stream after 10th (despite being a 'National Science Olympiad' winner...). In 12th I got 82 in maths. Yet my other papers managed to fetch me a 92% and I got through Economics (Hons.) in SRCC, my dream college. 


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As expected I had blasted the Mock and that gave me the required confidence. I slept early and surprisingly was able to get at least around 7 hrs of sleep. Now all set for the exam - reached exam center about half an hour before - and braced myself for the MAINCAT0900.
I wanted to maximize my score through Quant so decided to persist and attempted it for full 50 minutes. Then DI. DI was the toughest section in CAT 2008 and it did take a toll on me, given that DI is my weakest section. It was calculation intensive as well. Just managed to do 12 questions and hoped to get most of them correct. Started with the verbal part of VA - found it a bit difficult, but attempted some nevertheless. Then to RCs. RCs were a welcome development this time. The passages were easier to comprehend and there was lesser ambiguity in answer choices. This helped me gain the confidence and I did all except one RC. In the last 5 minutes and solved some questions in another VA set. Overall, I had committed some mistakes in all sections but the damage was limited.
Now I was sure of making it to at least one good bschool (SJMSOM). On 8th Jan, the site was opening for some puys and I gave my TR. No. to enstranged_gnrs. I would be thankful to him for ever for posting that result. It was a dream come true. I had got all of the coveted BLACKI calls, and a whopping percentile of 99.88
My first post will be just about my failures in the three CATs I gave earlier - its only through the failures does one gain motivation to succeed. It all started in 2004.
Again 1hr gone. 1/2 hr left for DI. The time I came to DI, it was literally a blackout - I had not practiced even a bit, and everyone knows how important practice is for DI. As I had to do it fast, I wasn't actually confident of even one question. I knew that I won't be able to clear DI cutoff anyway. The results came - Overall 96.xx, QA was 99.8x, VA was 99.3x (given that VA had been the the nemesis of many, this was a welcome development) and DI was 10.xx! (I actually scored ZERO in DI
). I didn't feel so bad as I didn't prepare at all, but I thought of it as a lost oppurtunity as QA was not going to be as easy as it was in this CAT anymore. But then I was getting into the "MBA mode" - my work at office actually helped in realize the need for an MBA to boost my career.
My strategy was anyway screwed up. I attempted my weakest section - DI first - was able to score averagely there. Then moved on to verbal - I found it equally arbit, if not more, as 2006 - I took a full hr for this. I was left with just 45 mins for QA. Now the blackout had to happen with QA - I found it really tough - after not being able to solve 2-3 questions, pressure increased and I ended up making really bad mistakes. Anyway, result was worse than the last time - 95.xx with 89.xx in QA, 92.xx in VA, 89.xx in DI - I expected it. But I got a promotion at work and that kind of compensated for my grief of not cracking CAT.
Dear Shoaib,
We are doing great and am sure same your end. Good to hear that you have cleared the CAT / will be clearing the CAT with good marks. I am also honoured that you have given me the priviledge to advice you in this moment of your career decision. That put the niceties to one side so we can get to hard facts.
Shoaib, it is very necessary in life that you decide what you want and when you want. You can have choices in a thread i.e this takes priority, if not this then this and the list goes on. But end of the day - You make your own choices based on a informed future oriented basis.
First the colleges - frankly what makes a difference is you. The better college gives you a 1 year head-start at the most. You need to decide what you want to do not do what is available. So what is your personality, temperament, aptitude and interest suited to. Analyze that - FAST. Pay packages do not matter (They have all dropped) (CTC is different from take home) (INR 10 lac CTC could give you 35-45K take home max - if lucky) - what matters is that do you have a good foundation in your subject of choice and more have you assimilated the theory and can you utilize it practically with common sense. Sounds Scary! But thats what separates the men from the boys and the butter from the buttermilk.
Good courses - top of line are - IIMs - Generalist / FMS - Marketing / XLRI - HR / MICA - Media / IIFT - Foreign trade. Then come MDI etc.
As regards studying overseas - once again what are your objectives in life. Live Life Kingsize overseas on DAD's MONEY! Shoaib, I may seem rough and rude but thats how you will get treated once in the real world. You need to build your foundations - yourself and then build your dreams. But dont forget to dream because if you dont you will not have a target in life and without that you will not have a sense of achievement.
My advice:
(1) Reach Higher, Hit Harder, Grow faster. (2) Success seems to be connected to action, Successful people keep moving, They make mistakes but never quit. (3) Your attitude makes altitude and lastly and the most important (4) "I CAN, I WILL".
Do a SWOT on yourself. Identify your core points - positive and negative. Identify your personality, temperment, aptitude and interest. FAST. Then select the course you wish to do. Where does not matter other than a ego issue. You do not see too many IIM guys heading successful organisations. Why, What happened. What has happend to the high flyers with super pay pack at start up. How come they did not get successful finally. So keep a gap to grow. Plan. Stragically and most importent IMPLEMENT.
Shoaib, all this sounds rough and bad. But " The rocky path you will tread on now will lead you to the rainbow" provided you keep your head on your shoulders and feet on the ground.
Wish you all the best and success. Any query to email in and I will be glad to advice within my limited knowledge of courses gone past. Take care and I await your reply.
-- My most relaxed CAT. Went to the centre calmly in tracks and a loose T shirt and sandals. People were staring at me. I was looking like a fool. Paper was handed out.
OA 98.66
. Hmmm now I kind of got interested in cracking this test which embarrassed me (Again there was no direction and determination apart from this)
) but I had 98.5 in verbal and cleared DI cut-off. So I thought I must be doing something right in these at least.
). But decision to take GMAT was not planned well. I applied in march and fixed april 18th as the date. Then I underwent an ear operation and hoped to study while on medical leave. But the tablets I was taking and that bulky bandage around my ear were such a nuisance.So when I took the test finally I scored just 670 ( QA-51, and VA-2
was dissapointed . But GMAT proved I was not hopeless in quant. In fit of rage I booked another date June 6th but again there was no plan in place.This time I started contributing in GMAT sentence correction and critical reasoning thread. I wanted to test myself. It helped a lot. I got to know a lot from the explanations of other successful PGs.
. The rest is history. Now I will stop boring you and take you through my strategy which may be of great help to you.
don't know my mind may be designed for this kind of VA questions). In actual CAT I was confident of doing well in RC, Sentence correction and critical reasoning kind of questions. I am also a great fan of short stories. May be analysing them helped me inadvertently in RC. I got 3 out of 4 sentence correction things right and many RC questions.
. Thanks PGs, without it I wouldn't have made it to IIMs today.

That was it for me. I am still in disbelief
. Later came to know I got rejected in K and selected in I from one of friends.To all of you my suggestion is write cat for youself not for your GF or for others but for you yourself. Remeber emotions simply put pressure on you and make you weak. I would like to end it by quoting a dialogue from Shawshank Redemption (something that I always used to keep saying to myslef whenever I needed inspiration)
Well, this is my first post on pagalguy. Never thought that I would be writing my first post with such a grim face and a remorse and grief-stricken heart. But then thats life. Not everything comes out the way we want it to... But frnz r frnz, and I dnt have any left as of now. May be only successful people get friends and "losers" are not entitled to any companions, especially in tuf times...
Hope to get sum support from whoever possible, it will be very welcome. Thanks.....
To b continued for a happys endingssss
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... since I hadn't prepared well, I expected less of myself , and thus was under lesser pressure to deliver..the other thing was PG ..I followed all threads relentlessly, don't know why but something just kept pulling me back to where I thought , I belonged.. 
strict no-no 'learning from my failures' , all this shouldnt be done ever -
now PUYs...do PM me your comments/groans whatever you feel...
Well!
That was a terrific post Chandoo.....
But..er........that raises the BIGGEST question!
Is it really necessary to prepare for CAT?
Am no kidding here guys.......
Its been my belief that CAT is just an aptitude test and it requires no preparation!
All CAT does is test your 'basic' language and analytical skills.A majority of us would be able to answer most of the questions if given infinite time.So CAT just puts one under 'pressure' because you have 150 questions to answer in 120 mins.In a way,CAT just simulates the working condition one might face when he/she becomes a manager.So CAT does nothing but assess an individual's potential to work as a manager!So why prepare for it?
Again,look what happens when you prepare....(There are people who prepare for 2 years or even more!Please!Am not trying to demean their efforts in anyway!).......When you prepare for an aptitude test like CAT,you are continuously pushing youself to become something that you are actually not. You might even crack CAT.......but believe me!its not the 'real you' who has cracked it......you may not be able to reproduce such a result at all times!For those 2 hours you had 2 years of preparation.......you WILL NOT have 2 years to prepare for every two hours in your work as a manager!Preparation can only create a pseudo-aptitude to crack CAT on that day.....nothing more!It infact spoils the chance to assess ones 'real' aptitude!
So.......DONT PREPARE!
Btw,..... I got calls from ACLIK.........n i did not prepare for CAT.Absolutely nothing more than the 2 hours i spent taking the test.
Well!I would love to read the responses!
Rajesh
Well Abhisekh,
For people who think & feel that its easy to advice than to follow, read my earlier posts in the same thread & wait for my this year's all I want to speak about CAT post to understand
Believe me, you haven't lost anything till you are alive.
I had always dream to convert a biggy and post here...the sacred thread....but here is a total failure story of an idiot...why I'm posting here then? to motivate myself to go for one more try...to recollect myself and give my 100% one more time...
So here it goes:
now here I sit infront of you...waiting for IIT-B...I have given so many sleepless nights to my family...to all my friends....am jobless...don't know if I should go for it 1 more time? start hunting for job that seems to be a painful process? What if IIT-B accepts? It's no doubt a great b-school...But should i give 1 more shot? What if IIT-B rejects? What will I say to my girl's parents who are ringing her everyday with new offers of guys having 10L packages? If I've messed up my life so badly do I deserve to be a manager? I'm just an emotional fool who had fought really hard...can I do it 1 more time? I am totally clueless at this moment...crahed yet again....
I wish to thanks Banglaore dream team(esp shabadp and rssriram84) for supporting me...and BBBT...it was a pleasure being a part of the team...
I'll update my post with the final result and the final decision I take...
I had always dream to convert a biggy and post here...the sacred thread...
...don't know if I should go for it 1 more time? start hunting for job that seems to be a painful process? What if IIT-B accepts? It's no doubt a great b-school...But should i give 1 more shot? What if IIT-B rejects? What will I say to my girl's parents who are ringing her everyday with new offers of guys having 10L packages? If I've messed up my life so badly do I deserve to be a manager? I'm just an emotional fool who had fought really hard...can I do it 1 more time? I am totally clueless at this ....
)jatschhabra SaysWell, this is my first post on pagalguy. Never thought that I would be writing my first post with such a grim face and a remorse and grief-stricken heart. But then thats life.
and wish you a wonderful life ahead !!!
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Reflecting on all that,and seeing all this tension,stress,heartburn regarding %iles,calls,sectional cutoffs...blah blah blah that people face,I have a very simple advice:Enjoy what you genuinely do.Discover things you really love and practice them.Don't burn yourself out on what is,well,just a test.Don't buy too much into the "top institute","hallowed portals","lifetime achievement","proving your worth to the world" slogans.They might give you an adrenaline rush,but nothing is more satisfying than normalcy.
- With regards to the MBA scenario in India I have some advice for future candidates. I may not be the right one to give this advice but I formulated it with the inputs of friends in top bschools and friends who are in the industry. Do not rush into doing an MBA in your final year of college. It will be one the biggest mistakes you make when you look back ten years down the line. Work hard during your last year of college, enjoy your time. After graduation work for some time. Work with people. Explore the country, get the opinion of others, learn how other communities live and how business is run at the grassroots level. Get first hand experience of life as it should be. You' re still young and life is not about the corporate pay package you get, the job profile you have or which college you are from. It is about how you deal with people and function in society and an IIM will not teach you this.
boss uv written one of the best posts on this forum !!
i rate this post 20 on 10 !! it is seriously so logical....i see ppl sloggin for CAT n XAT sacrificing everything , job, relationships , personality , parents , newspapers , general knowledge...i feel it doesnt make sense...doing business is so different than studying so hard..
its an irony how ppl with 600 on GMAT are there in wharton and ppl with 99.7 in CAT are not there at IIMs cuz their quant was 88%ile..
I really hate the admission process here..
CAT...ahem...good old friend...good old old foe
My story started with CAT'03.I was in my final year of engineering,yet another IIT missed call case.Wanted to prove my mettle.Wanted to show everyone just how good I was.An M.Tech didn't look too glamorous.So embarked on the journey taken by umpteen engineering souls:CAT.
I knew I had my way with verbal.Not to say that I was particularly weak at logic and quant or something,but my logic/quant scores always followed a very famous trend:randomSo it was quant 99 and di 70 for me in one mock and just the reverse next time around...:rockedov:
Anyways,somehow practiced 1892829238 mocks to make sure that things fall into place.They worsened.
Someone advised me a time tested solution:booze and sleep.I gulped a litre of whiskey,slept for 7 hours,woke up,ate and slept for 13 more.When I woke up,I felt ten years younger.My mind started to race.My mock scores improved.
I did decently on D-day,scoring 62 odd as per keys.Quant however,played a small trick again.My coach,however,thought I'd land a call.I thought he was out of his mind.
Results:98.6 with 88 in qa..a call from L...no MDI no NITIE.I called them up and asked why?They said they didn't entertain less than 90%ile in quant.Gosh...I wonder why I hadn't taken care that a mod is always positive and that the angle in the figure sure looked obtuse
Attended L gd-pi.I had a cough problem and was on a drug that was also used to tame elephants in heatCould'nt speak a word in the gd.In my PI,they looked disgusted.I looked flabbergested.Sure as hell,I was kicked out of L.And it did happen.
Now the same story repeated for four more years,with only the institute that the panel represented changing each time.In the midst of it,I had been into four different projects in my company,had given a futile attempt to patao five girls,and six of my friends had passed out of IIMs.
I also participated in the CAT retest movement in 2006 when due to paper errors,I screwed up the test.We lost the case against LI also saw an FMS waitlist never converting itself.And the icing on the cake,I recieved AIR 19 in the All India category for MAH-CET.The All India seats in JBIMS were,well,18
And yeah,IIFT had already rejected me twice,a feat I was to do an encore to soon
I said:the hell with MBA.I got myself into a client centric role in my company.Also did a lot of independent work with my friends who had succeeded in their entreprenial ventures.Had a hell lot of fun!!But somehow,that stupid bug in my cranium said:Write the exams one last time!!
"Okey wise guy" I said.I enrolled with a coaching institute where I basically enjoyed myselfI was certain on one thing:I was not really gonna run after MBA now.
CAT came and went,and so did quant again.I didn't bother this time.I got some 95 odd in SNAP,the cutoff being 82.The only problem:I forgot to fill SIBM and SCMHRD formsDid really well in FMS and was sure of a call.Eventually missed it by 0.4 %ile
Was sure of getting XL-PM and IR atleast.Had a 98.6,but not the call.
Fast forward a coupla months.I had converted XIMB,and had resigned from my job.Now the same old result awaited me that had ditched me by 1 rank last year:JBIMS.Had some serious unemployed fun till the results.And had fun when they came out too.I had topped the All India category this time,and had recieved a 39/40 in gd-pi.Well,I thought that the gods were always pushing me towards JB.Joined here,and have loved every moment here ever since.
As I look back,I identify two distinct things:
1.I could have done a few quant questions right and could have been a four year old IIM alumni for all you knowOr I could have gone into IIFT or FMS or JB itself a year ago,had a few things gone my way.But there sure is something called destiny,and I am too lazy to keep challenging it all the time
2.I could have gone for national level bodybuilding(I have competed at state level).I didn't.I could hve saved my relationships.I didn't.I could have made my college and job days more memorable.I didn't.Why??You all guessed it right..
Reflecting on all that,and seeing all this tension,stress,heartburn regarding %iles,calls,sectional cutoffs...blah blah blah that people face,I have a very simple advice:Enjoy what you genuinely do.Discover things you really love and practice them.Don't burn yourself out on what is,well,just a test.Don't buy too much into the "top institute","hallowed portals","lifetime achievement","proving your worth to the world" slogans.They might give you an adrenaline rush,but nothing is more satisfying than normalcy.
And yes,be wiser in your reason for aiming at an MBA.Learn about companies,their strategies,their marketing/finance/operations/hr....related plans and policies.You might do some entreprenial work if you want.Try and do some work with NGOs.Maybe trade on the stock market(It's a good time to buy).In the end,all your big B-shools are institutes that teach how to run a business.You might do well to have a first hand experience..
When i had time i was in no mood!! This was really bad and one of my greatest weakness!!
:I only need to prepare more and practise more. And this really boosted my confidence.
Last year at approximately the same time I had made a promise to myself that next year I would be writing on the IIM Call getters profile thread...
I now know i will not try for CAT again...if i dnt get through anywhere this year(NITIE/IMT/MDI..my lone bets!!!)..then its GMAT for me...
bye bye CAT...bye bye IIMs...
Last year at approximately the same time I had made a promise to myself that next year I would be writing on the IIM Call getters profile thread...
Finally...Here I am...but with no such promise for next year...bcoz i knw my IIM Dreams are over!!!
I now know i will not try for CAT again...if i dnt get through anywhere this year(NITIE/IMT/MDI..my lone bets!!!)..then its GMAT for me...
bye bye CAT...bye bye IIMs...
...finally the results came...verbal was 99 percentile..quants was 97 percentile ..and DI was just 86:-x...missed out by 2 questions perhaps!!! got an overall of 98.3 which was obviously not enough(bcoz i just have 83 % in 10th..92 % in 12th..and 77 % in graduation after qualifying IIT-JEE....no profile..uh!!!)..wats more...got my lowest GPA in the 7th semester...After an avge cat and after missing out XL
Emotions turned into words---
My destiny eludes,my faith quivers, my endeavour trickles down the drain.
All the effort all the devotion all the excitement , has it all been in vain?
Is it failure , or is it not having achieved success , the cause of my bane?
One wins and 99 others lose, isn't it an unfair game ?
Very Few taste success ,others get the pain .
To put up a composed face, damn, I need to feign.
Despite assiduous efforts, lady luck plays her own game.
The fact that , not once was she with me, drives me insane.
Guess I didn't invest enuf time , or I did not use a smart brain.
Or if it is something else , would U please explain?
or u can call it correctly. The score was:
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