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11-04-2007, 03:51 PM
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Q> 3 identical blue balls , 4 identical red balls and 5 identical white balls are to be arranged in a row , find the number of ways that this can be done if all the balls with the same colour do not form a single block . | total ways t = 12!/3!4!5!
but as blockas are not required
blocks of blue b = 10!/4!5!
blocks of red r = 9!/3!5!
blocks of white w = 8!/3!4!
but the above we have counted blocks whch occur together twice
so block of blue and red br = 7!/5!
block of blue and white bw = 61/4!
block of red and white rw = 5!/3!
also block of all three bwr = 3!
so ans is t- (b+r+w- br-bw-rw+bwr) हवामे ताश का घर नही बनता|
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11-04-2007, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by doomsayer 3 balls arranged as a block = 10!/(5!* 4!) =a
4"" = 9!/ 5!*3! =b
5 " " = 8!/ 3!*4! =c
3,4 balls = 7!/5!=d
3,5 balls= 6!/4!=e
4,5 = 5!/3! =f
3,4,5 = 3! =g
total ways in which thwy can arrage as single block=z= a+b+c -d-e-f +g
total ways = 12! / 3! * 4! *5!
total ways not as single block =12! / 3! * 4! *5! - z 
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Originally Posted by vineet.nitd (The Official CAT 2007 Quant Thread) ok ..lemmee explain the concept behind this .. ac+bc+ad+bd+ae+be/6 >= (a^3b^3c^2d^2e^2)^1/6
So basically u ve got to maximise Z=a^3b^3c^2d^2e^2.
Z=3^3.3^3.2^2.2^2.2^2(a/3)^3(b/3)^3(c/2)^2(d/2)^2(e/2)^2
(a/3)^3(b/3)^3(c/2)^2(d/2)^2(e/2)^2 will be maximum when all the factors are equal ...
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here we have to find max value of ac+bc+ad+bd+ae+be/6 ..
but in this method ur finding out the min value...right????
i didnt get the concept...plz elaborate | krish i got ur concept....but didnt understand vineet's aswer completly..
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11-04-2007, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior total ways t = 12!/3!4!5!
but as blockas are not required
blocks of blue b = 10!/4!5!
blocks of red r = 9!/3!5!
blocks of white w = 8!/3!4!
but the above we have counted blocks whch occur together twice
so block of blue and red br = 7!/5!
block of blue and white bw = 61/4!
block of red and white rw = 5!/3!
also block of all three bwr = 3!
so ans is t- (b+r+w- br-bw-rw+bwr) | Good warrior  ..now try this one ...
#How many arrangements of the digits 0,1,2,...9 are there that do not end with 8 and do not begin with 3 ? | | | | | | | |
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Originally Posted by doomsayer krish i got ur concept....but didnt understand vineet's aswer completly..
it will be helpful if somebody throw light on the concept.. | What i meant is that for
ac+bc+ad+bd+ae+be/6 >= (a^3b^3c^2d^2e^2)^1/6
and to have max ac+bc+ad+bd+ae+be , we are trying to maximise a^3b^3c^2d^2e^2 also coz the larger this value is the larger is our original expr..
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#How many arrangements of the digits 0,1,2,...9 are there that do not end with 8 and do not begin with 3 ? | for a ten digit number it's 8*9*10^8
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Here goes set 2: 1)Given f(x) is a function satisfying f(x + y) = f(x) X f(y) for every real value of x and y. If f(1) = 3 and f(1) + f(2) + f(3) + …….+ f(n) = 1092, then find the value of n. a) 5 b) 6 c) 7 d) 8 2)P denotes the sum of two three digit numbers such that P is 606. How many of the 10 digits from 0 to 9 cannot appear as the last digit of the product of these two three digit numbers? a) 4 b) 3 c) 5 d) 2 3)ABCD is a parallelogram. A point E is selected on AD such that BE is 2(square root of)6. Also 2AE = 2AB = BD = 8 units and 5CF = BC where F is a point on BC. Find the ratio of the quadrilateral DEFC to the area of parallelogram ABCD. a) 7/20 b) 5/16 c) 2/5 d) 3/10 4)Three persons A, B and C start running clockwise and simultaneously from a point on the circular track of radius (105/2pi) km. The ratio of the speeds of A, B and C is 3 : 5 : 7. What is the difference between the distance traveled by A and that of C when all the three meet for the first time at a point on the track? a) 105 km b) 131.25 km c) 262.5 km d) None of these 5) If x + y +z = 1 and x, y and z are non-negative numbers, what is the minimum value of the expression (2 – x + yz)^(-1) + (2 – y +xz)^(-1) + (2 – z +xy)^(-1) a) 27/16 b) 25/9 c) 38/25 d) 3/2 | | | | | The Following User Says Thank You to CAT 2007 For This Useful Post: | | | | | |
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Originally Posted by CAT 2007 Here goes set 2: 1)Given f(x) is a function satisfying f(x + y) = f(x) X f(y) for every real value of x and y. If f(1) = 3 and f(1) + f(2) + f(3) + …….+ f(n) = 1092, then find the value of n. a) 5 b) 6 c) 7 d) 8 4)Three persons A, B and C start running clockwise and simultaneously from a point on the circular track of radius (105/2pi) km. The ratio of the speeds of A, B and C is 3 : 5 : 7. What is the difference between the distance traveled by A and that of C when all the three meet for the first time at a point on the track? a) 105 km b) 131.25 km c) 262.5 km d) None of these
| 1) B 3+3^2+....3^6
4) let the speeds be 3 5 7
A(n rounds) and B(n-1 rounds) will meet after A makes 2.5 rounds
A(n rounds) and C(n-1 rounds) will meet after A makes 1.75 rounds
all of them will meet after A makes 17.5 rounds
hence C will make 0.75*10 7.5 rounds
difference 10 rounds distance 10*105 not in the options
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