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Re: Underdog Team CAT 2006 GD/PI Prep - 03-12-2006, 02:04 PM

Principles of the trading system
The WTO discussions should follow these fundamental principles of trading.

1.A trading system should be free of discrimination in the sense that one country cannot privilege a particular trading partner above others within the system, nor can it discriminate against foreign products and services.

Can someone explain what the first part means?

Does the second part mean that ideally we should always allow 100% FDI in all sectors and give all priviliges which we give to a local company?

2. A trading system should tend toward more freedom, that is, toward fewer trade barriers (tariffs and non-tariff barriers).

Can someone explain this further? Are "trade barriers" similar to our policies in the 60's-80's wherein we did not allow foreign companies? What kind of trade barriers do we have now in 2006 wherein other countries are disadvantaged (other than the non-100% FDI trade barrier).

3. A trading system should be predictable, with foreign companies and governments reassured that trade barriers will not be raised arbitrarily and that markets will remain open.

Guess not very difficult to understand. It means we should not change our policies just like that. Though I guess we are notorious for doing the same. A simple hypothetical example from my work.

Assume I set up a office in China for manufacturing something. I would have set the factory in china (say for a 10% cost advantage over setting the factory in India) assuming certain factors like freight charges, real estate charges, labour charges, local taxes etc. Now, the last one, local taxes is one extremely important component. If the Govt of china feels like increasing its tax component from say 6% to 17% then I am done! My cost advantage of 10% is offset and I am in deep trouble. This is very much possible and can happen any time. This is also one of the main reasons why hue and cry is created over the budget by the corporates (if things change for worse) coz all their calculations go wrong. Hence one of the reasons why democracy is preferred is that its assumed such kind of laws will not be passed on the drop of the hat, whereas in a non-democracy economy, say in china, they can pass whatever law they want whenever they feel like.

PS : The India-China e.g. was just an e.g. lets not digress the topic getting into nitty gritties. If the concept/understanding per se is wrong, plz correct me.

4. A trading system should tend toward greater competition.

No doubts. I guess it means we should not protect any particular industry or any particular company or subsidize them to artifically create cheap products and create a market for them thus affecting other companies which may actually be more competitve. guess this is a typical example how India was a few decades back. Even now we protect many companies. More on this later.

5. A trading system should be more accommodating for less developed countries, giving them more time to adjust, greater flexibility, and more privileges.

Someone please explain. Does this not contradict the most of the above 4 points?

Lets discuss these issues. Extremely important points. And also the answers to deepu's question. very simple questions but answers may not be so simple.

Gr8 job god2be and deepu.

Tati : will post my stuff once this discussion is over.

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Re: Underdog Team CAT 2006 GD/PI Prep - 03-12-2006, 02:15 PM

i agree i dint keep "Sensex" topic to jst basic stuff ....... the reason is that i feel most of us will b going for an MBA in finance and a strong foundation is of utmost importance in finance; we can lay that foundation now along with the GD / PI prep ....... yeah there will be many who will be turned off by the length of the post BUT the ones who take it one para at a time and assimilate and undrstand the idea will really enjoy it ......... finance is an interesting subject but it also demands a keen interest & dedication .....


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Re: Underdog Team CAT 2006 GD/PI Prep - 03-12-2006, 02:16 PM

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ACC Ltd.
Bajaj Auto Ltd.
Bharat Heavy Electricals Ltd.
Bharti Airtel Ltd.
Cipla Ltd.
Dr Reddy's Laboratories Ltd.
Grasim Industries Ltd.
Gujarat Ambuja Cements Ltd.
HDFC Finance
HDFC Bank Ltd.
Hero Honda Motors Ltd.
Hindalco Industries Ltd.
Hindustan Lever Ltd.
ICICI Bank Ltd.
Infosys Technologies Ltd.
ITC Ltd.
Larsen & Toubro Limited
Maruti Udyog Ltd
NTPC Ltd.
ONGC Ltd.
Ranbaxy Laboratories Ltd.
Reliance Communications Limited
Reliance Energy Ltd
Reliance Industries Ltd.
Satyam Computer Services Ltd.
State Bank of India
Tata Consultancy Services Limited
Tata Motors Ltd.
Tata Steel Ltd.
Wipro Ltd.
Some observations (Please correct me if I am wrong) :

1) No foreign company/MNC in the list.
2) 4 software companies. All of them from the services domain.
3) Three companies from the Relians Group itself.
4) Most of the companies are old-economy companies.
5) 3 Major pharma companies in the list. Thats gr8.

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Re: Underdog Team CAT 2006 GD/PI Prep - 03-12-2006, 02:46 PM

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Principles of the trading system
The WTO discussions should follow these fundamental principles of trading.

1.A trading system should be free of discrimination in the sense that one country cannot privilege a particular trading partner above others within the system, nor can it discriminate against foreign products and services.

Can someone explain what the first part means?

Does the second part mean that ideally we should always allow 100% FDI in all sectors and give all priviliges which we give to a local company?

2. A trading system should tend toward more freedom, that is, toward fewer trade barriers (tariffs and non-tariff barriers).

Can someone explain this further? Are "trade barriers" similar to our policies in the 60's-80's wherein we did not allow foreign companies? What kind of trade barriers do we have now in 2006 wherein other countries are disadvantaged (other than the non-100% FDI trade barrier).

3. A trading system should be predictable, with foreign companies and governments reassured that trade barriers will not be raised arbitrarily and that markets will remain open.

Assume I set up a office in China for manufacturing something. I would have set the factory in china (say for a 10% cost advantage over setting the factory in India) assuming certain factors like freight charges, real estate charges, labour charges, local taxes etc. Now, the last one, local taxes is one extremely important component.

5. A trading system should be more accommodating for less developed countries, giving them more time to adjust, greater flexibility, and more privileges.

Someone please explain. Does this not contradict the most of the above 4 points?

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Dear RPK,

Trade barriers mean mostly custom duties and special duties imposed on imports. Now if some country imposes very high customs duty on few products then it will be difficult for other countries to export those products as ultimately they will workout to be very expensive to consumer/user.

Also sometimes special duties/concessions are imposed. As of now USA imposes a CUSTOM Duty of about 6% on Jwellary from other countries but 0% from India. This way Indian exporters are favoured. This structure is under review and may be discountinued. I hope you get the idea of trade barriers from above examples.

Local taxes are mainly applicable to products meant for domestic consumption and not to exports. So if somebody sets up a factory in China for exporting out of China then he may not be affected very much by Local Taxes. But if he sets the factory in China for selling the products in China then Local taxes will affect him. This is general rule and may not be applicable to all cases.

I hope above helps.

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Some observations (Please correct me if I am wrong) :

1) No foreign company/MNC in the list.
2) 4 software companies. All of them from the services domain.
3) Three companies from the Relians Group itself.
4) Most of the companies are old-economy companies.
5) 3 Major pharma companies in the list. Thats gr8.

RPK

HLL is an MNC ...... Indian Subsidiary of Anglo-Dutch company Unilever, involved in consumer pro. ..... Harish Manwani did Indians proud by becoming the President (Asia Africa) of Unilver in April, 2005. He joined Hindustan Lever (HLL) in 1976.




jst adding to ur observation .....

speaking more accurately .... only one frm Reliance umbrella and 2 (energy and communication) from ADAG umbrella (Anil Ambani) ..... yeah most of them are old economy companies ..... wanted to upload a page where in the info regarding the add/deletion of various stocks over the yrs in Sensex is briefly mentioned ..... but dont know hw to do it ...... y dont u do it rpk if u know how to ...... here is the link

SENSEX

towards the end ...... table heading is History of replacement of scrips in SENSEX


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Re: Underdog Team CAT 2006 GD/PI Prep - 03-12-2006, 02:56 PM

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Some observations (Please correct me if I am wrong) :

1) No foreign company/MNC in the list.
2) 4 software companies. All of them from the services domain.
3) Three companies from the Relians Group itself.
4) Most of the companies are old-economy companies.
5) 3 Major pharma companies in the list. Thats gr8.

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Dear RPK

Hindustan Lever Ltd. (MNC) is there.

As mentioned above, market Capitalisation plays a very important role in selection of a company in any Index. As of now not many new economy companies with high market cap, hence mainly old economy comanies in any Index , except sector specific Index like NASDAQ composit or Tech indexes.


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Re: Underdog Team CAT 2006 GD/PI Prep - 04-12-2006, 12:21 AM

History of replacement of scrips in SENSEX
Date
Outgoing Scrips
Replaced by

01.01.1986
Bombay Burmah
Voltas





Asian Cables
Peico

Crompton Greaves
Premier Auto.

Scinda
G.E.Shipping


03.08.1992
Zenith Ltd.
Bharat Forge


19.08.1996
Ballarpur Inds.
Arvind Mills

Bharat Forge
Bajaj Auto

Bombay Dyeing
BHEL

Ceat Tyres
BSES

Century Text.
Colgate

GSFC
Guj. Amb. Cement

Hind. Motors
HPCL

Indian Organic
ICICI

Indian Rayon
IDBI

Kirloskar Cummins
IPCL

Mukand Iron
MTNL

Phlips
Ranbaxy Lab.

Premier Auto
State Bank of India

Siemens
Steel Authority of India

Voltas
Tata Chem


16.11.1998
Arvind Mills
Castrol

G. E. Shipping
Infosys Technologies

IPCL
NIIT Ltd.

Steel Authority of India
Novartis


10.04.2000
I.D.B.I
Dr. Reddy’s Laboratories

Indian Hotels
Reliance Petroleum

Tata Chem
Satyam Computers

Tata Power
Zee Telefilms


08.01.2001
Novartis
Cipla Ltd.


07.01.2002
NIIT Ltd.
HCL Technologies

Mahindra & Mahindra
Hero Honda Motors Ltd.


31.05.2002
ICICI Ltd.
ICICI Bank Ltd.


10.10.2002
Reliance Petroleum Ltd.
HDFC Ltd.


10.11.2003
Castrol India Ltd.
Bharti-Tele-Ventures Ltd.

Colgate Palomive (India) Ltd.
HDFC Bank Ltd.

Glaxo Smithkline Pharma. Ltd.
ONGC Ltd.

HCL Technologies Ltd.
Tata Power Company Ltd.

Nestle (India) Ltd.
Wipro Ltd.


19.05.2004
Larsen & Toubro Ltd.
Maruti Udyog Ltd.


27.09.2004
Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd.
Larsen & Toubro Ltd.


06.06.2005
Hindustan Petroleum Corp Ltd.
National Thermal Power Corpn. Ltd.


Zee Telefilms Ltd.
Tata Consultancy Services Ltd.


12.06.2006
Tata Power Ltd.
Reliance Communiation Ventures Ltd.



as required by chango ... list of companises replaced in sensex over the time

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SENSEX


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Re: Underdog Team CAT 2006 GD/PI Prep - 04-12-2006, 11:19 AM

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Some observations (Please correct me if I am wrong) :

1) No foreign company/MNC in the list.
2) 4 software companies. All of them from the services domain.
3) Three companies from the Relians Group itself.
4) Most of the companies are old-economy companies.
5) 3 Major pharma companies in the list. Thats gr8.

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Now what do you mean by foreign company??? Now say a company is started by an indian. But it's headquarters are in US. It has a few centres in India too. So will it be able to raise equity in India???

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