[rmbt]

Originally Posted by orchid

Hi Arun,

Any more gyan on these types?Really been loosing on these.Appreciate it if some light is thrown in these aspects.

Thanks,
Neelima

You can find some info on this thread:

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/prep-r...reasoning.html

and can find loads of material here:

http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/english-resources/

Btw, you have replied to a 3 yr old thread.

All the best.

[IdiotR]

Originally Posted by Psychodementia

I think you should not be unduely worried over these kind of questions. They have not been asked in recent years. The reason I suspect they are discontinued is because of the extreme subjectiveness in the questions.

I forgot a lot of razzmatazz that I knew as a faculty a couple of years ago. But here is the thumb-rule :

(1) Fact - Indisputable. Say, Psychodementia posted on the controversial RSTRL thread at 11:59pm yesterday

(2) Inference - Something that can be cleary established with reference to the fact(s) that is/are given. Example, since today morning there have been already 15posts on that RSTRL thread since it was controversial.

(3) Judgement - Something you presume based on circumstances. Example, to say that PsychD's thread caused the furore. Something you cannot substantiate yet could be a possible reason for it.

Actually the example I gave you gives a very feeble insight. There is a lots of theory on weak/strong arguments that go behind it.

Anyways, you come up with an example and I think we can solve it.

Jai Matadi !

Arun

Just continuing from the above post-
2)This is kind of logical deduction from what is already established as a FACT.
Suppose,the road near your house in full of potholes and automobiles generally ply at a very slow speed.Now you also know that the traffic is quite heavy on that stretch during office hours.So you can infer based on this that there will be traffic jams every now and then on that road.
3)Now coming to " judgement",this varies from person to person and doesn't always have a logical backing or information to support.Say,you don't like the color "red",so you may think a person wearing a red T shirt as a person with a not -so- good dress sense.This is your personal opinion and it qualifies as your judgement.
Hope i am correct.
Also let me mention that i found one old (of yr 99-00)IMS VR material that had all these.

[CAT 2007]

Originally Posted by Psychodementia

I will tell you something. You are worrying yourself in the wrong direction.

I bet my "family heirlooms" (could have used a more colorful expression though :P) that it is not going to come this year in CAT. So don't worry in this. Worry about something like RC or QA.

Jai Matadi,

Arun

A typical lifecycle of a CAT paper pattern(questions based) is 3 years.. I bet on exactly the opposite of what you have....

[prem_ravi]

But finally whats the answer to meka's question?.

[Fabio capello]

Hi

why cant we practice questions on this topics like sentence corrections threads of deleted sentences etc.....

Any body coming forward???

praveen

[prasant_ag]

boss neha.. i dunno, if u r still reading it.. but it was there in cat 2006
u predicted future 4 years ahead dear!!

best reg
prasant

Originally Posted by pagalneha

Fact, Inference, Judgment.


FACT.
1. Universal truth
2. Analyzed truth
3. Something which can be verified- abstract things cannot be verified
4. Something which has transpired.

JUDGEMENT
1. Abstract description is a judgment
2. Futuristic prediction.
3. Phrases are judgments.

INFRENCE.
1. For abstract description cause is given
2. reporting of any event is inference.
3. Anything transpiring is inference.
4. “So”, “Thus”, “therefore” characterize some cause but not 100%.

These are some basic rules to check which statement is a fact, inference or a judgment.
Example- sachin is a good cricketer.
This is a judgment not a fact . coz it cud be any sachin. And even if it is given sachin tendulkar it is a judgment.

These type of questions generally do not come in CAT but r common in other exams like IMT etc…….

[writetotanveer]

Originally Posted by prem_ravi

But finally whats the answer to meka's question?.

Hmm....

I was taking a class on IFJ the other day....

And this is what I gleaned from that session..

FACTS: deal with information that one has heard, seen or read, and which are open to discovery or verification. It should be open to VERIFICATION ..that's most imp!!!

So the most important points abt facts would be

· Based observation or experience. An event cannot become a fact unless it has occurred.
· cannot be about the future.
· Not perception dependent on perception. A fact will be agreed to by EVERY person.

INFERENCES: are conclusions drawn about the unknown, on the basis of what is known.

So based on some facts you will come to a conclusion about an uncertain unknown in the future.

In this case because your reasoning is supposed to be logical..MOST people should agree with you


JUDGEMENTS : These are opinions that imply approval or disapproval of persons, objects, situations, and occurrences in the past, the present or the future. Not everybody may agree.


Will post more later..

[buck_was]

Posted this on another thread.. but repeating it here - the more rightful place..
If a statement goes this way..
"Ruby feels that the ever-increasing population is more of a bane".
Is this a Fact? ('cos it certainly is verifiable)
Is this an Inference? ('cos it maybe an interpretation of the first person/author)
Is this a Judgment? ('cos no reasoning/explanation is accompanied, while it conveys approval/disapproval of a phenomenon)

[pratyush_sinha]

Originally Posted by meka

Ppl,

I have been facing a problem in this area for quite some time. I know that most of these questions are solved based on the "key" words..like for inference u have because, due to n stuff like that. I still face problems when it comes to certain sentences which are basically certain observations. For eg:

"Money has always been a fertile ground for family disputes but the financial tensions between the generations are growing more acute than ever."

Now this is just an observation. How do u decide whether this is an iferencial, factual or judgemental one. Please clarify.

Note: Question from one of the FLTs.

Meka.

Guys ,

What do you think the highlighted part is?

I think its a fact.

[pratyush_sinha]

Originally Posted by buck_was

Posted this on another thread.. but repeating it here - the more rightful place..
If a statement goes this way..
"Ruby feels that the ever-increasing population is more of a bane".
Is this a Fact? ('cos it certainly is verifiable)
Is this an Inference? ('cos it maybe an interpretation of the first person/author)
Is this a Judgment? ('cos no reasoning/explanation is accompanied, while it conveys approval/disapproval of a phenomenon)

This is a fact. (But this statement itself is a judgement).