Why ISB will beat IIMs

[shivanQ]

Now this is surely not what i will agree at all

well dear frnd

According to u a phd from lucknow university is useless as compared to abroad univ.

well lemme tell u that

it is really tough to enroll and complete a phd from an indian govt. universities than to go in for a phd abroad!!!(and i myself know this as i know a few teachers at IIMs who are highly qualified--read mtech from MIT and IITs and are phds frm Lucknow University)

secondly

u say that IIM teachers dont publish papers

well for ur kind attention

just check in dude

the no. of papers published by faculty at IIM-A is huge when compared with the facluty of ISB.........plz check in some links to these papers and see for urself

then as u say IIMs will shift towards taking more work-ex people

then again
i wud like to add that
work ex is not just any kind of industry experience
it must be at some executive level

and ya
companies come to the IIMs for recruiting some freshers also so that they can
easily mould their minds according to the need of their companies



just see the trend
today big firms are recruiting plain grads as management trainees
so IIMs taking in work-ex guys only is a distant dream

and on this front

IIMs are starting the pgpx programmes



@Ronnie
hi there

well i too agree that placements are not a judging parameter solely
but mate
if at all one does an MBA
is it just to gain some knowledge
no

today people in the mid of their career go in for an MBA
just to
get promoted to bigger postions of the management

so MoolaH does matters!!!!!




anyways

i do not post to churn emotions

so srry if i hurt any sentiments

but i say and speak

what is correct

and ya

IIMs(read IIM-a,b,c)
are coming up greately on global front

and so

ISB or even other ivy league b-schools

have to perform consistently to

reach that ""MARK""

[shekhar]

both are different schools with different intakes. ISB has to go a notch higher than IIMs. 15 lacs kiss liye le raha hai phir sirff 1 saal ka..!!!

[ashish_bhel]

hi

the threat that isb poses in front of iim's is clear from the fact that even though the thread is a direct challenge to iim's none of the iim grad have bothered to response though they have dedicated ppl to monitor such kind of acts by rival insti. go to any iim grad and he will tell u what he thinks of a threat from isb. Dude no one even talks about isb forget about thinking a threat ,all big 3 (A,B,C) have clocked i crore salary bfr and if that is the point then let us compare the placements of iim's and isb in totality and not on the basis of 1 job. any way just chk the profile and the fit of the job for this offer .

[shivanQ]

Originally Posted by ashish_bhel

hi

the threat that isb poses in front of iim's is clear from the fact that even though the thread is a direct challenge to iim's none of the iim grad have bothered to response though they have dedicated ppl to monitor such kind of acts by rival insti. go to any iim grad and he will tell u what he thinks of a threat from isb. Dude no one even talks about isb forget about thinking a threat ,all big 3 (A,B,C) have clocked i crore salary bfr and if that is the point then let us compare the placements of iim's and isb in totality and not on the basis of 1 job. any way just chk the profile and the fit of the job for this offer .

its NICE TO SEE SOME ACTION ON THIS DEAD THREAD

WELL
ASHISH
THOUGH I FEEL ITS REALLY A GREAT MILE BEFORE ISB TO CROSS THE MARK MADE BY IIM-A
BUT
UR ATTITUTDE MAKES ME FEEL U THINK THAT ISB LAGS BEHIND IIM-C
LOL
THAT SURELY IS FUNNY
TODAY FRND
VARIOUS RANKINGS MAY SHOW EVEN MDI AHEAD OF IIM-C
LEAVE ASIDE ISB

ALSO DUDE
DO ALL RANKINGS SAY IIM-C IS IN THE TOP THREE IIMs SLOT
WELL THE LATEST ONE(see 4 urself)HAS A DIFFERENT THIRD IIM

AND YA
ISB IS NOT HYPED COZ OF ITS SALARY
ALONE
THE INTERNATIONAL EXPOSURE THAT THIS INSTITUTE HAS IS COMMENDABLE..
AND YA
THIS MUCH I KNOW
THAT IN A FEW YEARS ISB WILL BE IN GLOBAL TOP 50
THE MARK WHICH IS EVEN TOUGH FOR IIM-A

[live_n_let_live99]

Good 2 c the IIM junta getting flustered for once...

GO ISB GO...!!

[ashish_bhel]

hi

u prompt reply to my post proves my point no one from any IIM came forward to defend what was said about IIM's but the moment a single post comes here we have isb defnding. As about IIM-c , sir/madam u are free to give ur judgement u can rank iim-c what u want to. I dont need to defend it .

ashish













WELL
ASHISH
THOUGH I FEEL ITS REALLY A GREAT MILE BEFORE ISB TO CROSS THE MARK MADE BY IIM-A
BUT
UR ATTITUTDE MAKES ME FEEL U THINK THAT ISB LAGS BEHIND IIM-C
LOL
THAT SURELY IS FUNNY
TODAY FRND
VARIOUS RANKINGS MAY SHOW EVEN MDI AHEAD OF IIM-C
LEAVE ASIDE ISB

ALSO DUDE
DO ALL RANKINGS SAY IIM-C IS IN THE TOP THREE IIMs SLOT
WELL THE LATEST ONE(see 4 urself)HAS A DIFFERENT THIRD IIM

AND YA
ISB IS NOT HYPED COZ OF ITS SALARY
ALONE
THE INTERNATIONAL EXPOSURE THAT THIS INSTITUTE HAS IS COMMENDABLE..
AND YA
THIS MUCH I KNOW
THAT IN A FEW YEARS ISB WILL BE IN GLOBAL TOP 50
THE MARK WHICH IS EVEN TOUGH FOR IIM-A[/quote]

[AddyJ]

Hello people!

Before this forum turns into a battlefield of who is better than whome, let me quickly put my 2 cents in!

First of all, I cannot believe that the Indian B-school situation is evolving into such a complex, almost, industry. Overall, I am happy that there are more institutions in India offering learning facilities of the first-rate excellence. The fact that we are even discussing who is better is a proof that the graduate-education field is becoming more complex.

Here in the States, people are not generally crazy about the rankings of business schools. In India though, what determines the quality of a program for its mass consumers is how high it is ranked, and whether it "beats" the others or not. I hope we too evolve into beings that evaluate an institution based on merit, rather than how good it is relatively to its competitors. That being said, rankings are important, and give us a fair snapshot of b-school market at a particular time. And we humans, attracted as we are to numbers and statistics, love to name one winner in the race.

Frankly, I am a little tired of Harvard vs. Stanford vs. Wharton here. So, I decided to move to a new, fresher debate. I strongly believe after my research of a lot of business schools around the world, ISB adds more value to a candidate than do the IIM Ahmedabad. Quite honestly, I am turned off by some aspects of the IIM. On a lighter note, even though IIMA claims to be a world-class institute, its website sucks. In all of Tech-savvy India, they could have found one good web-designer.

One fine day, when I do my MBA, I hope to seek the opportunity to do an exchange program and travel to the ISB. I am sure that was much more than 2 cents!

[The Rock]

[DesiGuru]

Now you ISB supporters dont get so high as yet
I did say in the long run the government hand will screw the IIMs... So ISB might win unless complete autonomy is given to the IIMs

But right now ISB is an enormous exercise in useless risk for the average indian who wants to get into Bschool. I am talking about the 0-4 years work ex indians... Yeah the much berated but hard working Desi Software Engineer. Mostly all those in this range that get into ISB are those who couldnt make IIM ABC. period. Or those who are rich enough and just missed out because of a bad CAT day...

Just ask ISB for exhaustive data about salaries for the type of grads Im talking about... and not those with 10 years of work ex abroad The salary will be in the same range as that for IIM ABC. Now the IIM guys have spend less than 1/4th the money for their program and have the superior advantage of a HUGE alumni. And When it comes to other Business schools... All IIMs are Bhai Bhai

So for such an indian applicant... ISB is about 5 levels below IIM. period. Ranking or no Ranking

Though the fact that the IIMs have problems with Profs and infrastructure is not exactly hidden from everyone. But for the price there is no better deal in India. The key to remember is that business education plays about less than 2% part in making a manager out of someone... Its latent talent that matters... And everyone and their Dead Great Grandfather knows that all the smartest sons of <*> choose IIMs over ISB

So atleast wait for a few more years... Let the industry see the performance of your grads and then maybe you can blow your trumpet... not yet yaar

K

[DesiGuru]

@The Rock

That is a Rocking pic

K