What Is The Problem With India ?

[spirit11]

From Taslima to Tibet, India proves chicken


I was just reading this article on TOI and i very much second that opinion....

From Taslima to Tibet, India proves chicken-SECOND OPINION-Jug Suraiya-Columnists-Opinion-The Times of India

What do you PUYS have to say about this P.O.V..??

[the_egonomist]

had come across this and didnt find time to reply.

the truth is that the indian mentality (of the government) is such as to appease people - both in india and those on the outside. all the fuss about the reservations, the farm loan waiver, not caring that that kashmir is eaten away by other countries. The problems in the east compounded by China and the naxals.

To top it - not giving a damn about tibet!

Grow a pair indians!


Cheers!

[chaitanya_yn]

Originally Posted by spirit11

From Taslima to Tibet, India proves chicken


I was just reading this article on TOI and i very much second that opinion....

From Taslima to Tibet, India proves chicken-SECOND OPINION-Jug Suraiya-Columnists-Opinion-The Times of India

What do you PUYS have to say about this P.O.V..??

Well,

This is another issue that's been discussed time and again by intellectuals.

What makes us Indian's go so soft on trivial matters is not fathomable, but all I can say is India needs to toughen its stance on various fronts, be it terrorism, plane hijacks, internal matters,PoW, disputes over territories(border) and of course Pakistan and China.

I recall the 71 war with Pakistan, where India conceded PoK even after winning the war!!

And now Tibet, not to mention the utter diplomatic and politically correct statements issued by the foreign office.In fact both on Arunachal Pradesh and Tibet the government is mum. If headlines were anything to believe, China is building up heavy deployment across the eastern border and even attacking Indian bunker's, to which both Indian foreign minister and Defence minister played down.

India has to learn to be aggressive in trivial matters. Its always been known to be a soft nation.But now I think India is becoming a global powerhouse, its economic and military clout can be the backdrop of its aggression, just as the China has!!

ciao

[spirit11]

Originally Posted by chaitanya_yn

Well,

This is another issue that's been discussed time and again by intellectuals.

What makes us Indian's go so soft on trivial matters is not fathomable, but all I can say is India needs to toughen its stance on various fronts, be it terrorism, plane hijacks, internal matters,PoW, disputes over territories(border) and of course Pakistan and China.

I recall the 71 war with Pakistan, where India conceded PoK even after winning the war!!

And now Tibet, not to mention the utter diplomatic and politically correct statements issued by the foreign office.In fact both on Arunachal Pradesh and Tibet the government is mum. If headlines were anything to believe, China is building up heavy deployment across the eastern border and even attacking Indian bunker's, to which both Indian foreign minister and Defence minister played down.

India has to learn to be aggressive in trivial matters. Its always been known to be a soft nation.But now I think India is becoming a global powerhouse, its economic and military clout can be the backdrop of its aggression, just as the China has!!

ciao

What i feel is lacking in India Policy Makers is the belief that India can also play a part on an International Arena,This lack off self belief in ourselves is eating us away and any chances of India being a superpower,i mean its all very good to follow the policy of tolerance but to make it as the only policy is the biggest mistake that we are commiting,i mean whether be it any crisis international or national,India is bound to take the easiest route out...and thats is what is putting us down the unwillingness to take tough decisisons...and you can find it this unwillingness in any decison that India makes vis-a-vis china,pakistan,taslima,bangladesh,nepal...its India who acts out as a second hand citizen every where..........

[devoid316]

Only one word for it: CORRUPTION

To kill a country u don't need to wage a war.....the corruption of bureaucracy would yield far more devastating results .....(Eg. Rome, Egypt, India under british rule and India : the PRESENT)....

[theGreenScar]

What is the Problem with India?

Well the very fact that we are debating about such a topic indicates there is a problem. But what is IT? Where is IT hiding that we have to discuss IT to bring IT out in the Open? I think you got a hint in there dint you. Now let me try and convince you that IT is a problem with India.

1. Since the IT revolution happenend, so many promising youngsters left more noble causes(read less paying but more oriented for the country like Army, DRDO, IAS, Administrative services et AL) to jump onto the IT bandwagon to settle themselves well in Life(I'm one of those). I'm not saying that it's a bad thing to do so. But then i guess people do get a small voice within which talks to them..."Teri ye Zindagi kis kis ke kaam aayi bandehh...khhuud hi kamaya, khhud hi khaya..Ye bhi koi Zindagi hai?"

Really we need to ask ourselves that whom do we live for, what do we live for...Is wealth the only point in life..Are we just gatherers of Material wealth and loosers of intellectual treasures. i think as a future generation we must listen to our souls and not be tamed by peer pressure or anything else..We need to open our mind, make it humble...understand nature and treat her with Respect...But all we do is talk and no work and then we debate long n hard that what is wrong with this country...Whats wrong with this country...its us...Its the choices we make...Only we have the capability to change things...We can reach for the stars but we are happy with the Moon...Thats what is wrong...WE can become the apex of human civilization, but we are used to the sadistic humiliation which are meted out to us at the global stage and hang our heads in shame on account of our Indianness...Only we can change this...We can by ensuring that not one son of this soil is uneducated, that all are independent enough to afford two square meals a day, that all are afforded a roof to dwell under and clothes to bear the seasons...WE need to make the internals strong to drive away our enemies...We need to rise and act now for the cruel hands of Time can strike at any moment and we may be found wanting..

The above were my personal opinions only...maybe exaggerated especially wrt the IT example..but do think about it..and add onto it if possible..But my motto is that to become a world power first we need to defeat the enemies inside...Without that all attempts to rise will be greeted by a steeper descent..

thanks,
TGS

[raghav507]

Originally Posted by theGreenScar

What is the Problem with India?

Well the very fact that we are debating about such a topic indicates there is a problem. But what is IT? Where is IT hiding that we have to discuss IT to bring IT out in the Open? I think you got a hint in there dint you. Now let me try and convince you that IT is a problem with India.

The above were my personal opinions only...maybe exaggerated especially wrt the IT example..but do think about it..and add onto it if possible..But my motto is that to become a world power first we need to defeat the enemies inside...Without that all attempts to rise will be greeted by a steeper descent..

thanks,
TGS

i agree with u GreenScar...
we must conquer the enemies within first and then look forward to the other problems...
there is a saying in Hindi...u must have heard..."man changa toh jag changa"...meaning if we're clear at heart then the whole world is clear for us too...
i think if we can follow this small saying, it cud work wonders for the whole society...
we can take a very common example of driving on the roads...
today while driving to the office i had such an incident...
i stopped for a person to let him cross the zebra crossing (otherwise the people wouldn't stop there) and the people behind me started honking instantly...i felt very bad bout the same...

but 10-15 minutes later after parking the car...i tried to cross the road on the zebra crossing itself...a stranger also stopped for me in the same way as i had done...
i was elated to see that gesture...

this somehow proves the above saying...
so we have to start the transition from ourselves first then only we're eligible for demanding the same from others...

[knightofwar]

I would start the post by saying that no nation is perfect, and those which are better have been made that way by the people residing there. Corruption, ignorance, illiteracy, unemployment, Rich-Poor divide, Caste based approach, Not good foreign policies, lack of implementation, lack of infrastructure...all of these are faced by each and every country, to a small or large extent...wat was left of Japan after the world war??? and what it is now...! Thr is an incident abt that country: Once an Indian was coming back from Japan,at Airport he didnt find any fruits to eat, so he said, thr r no good fruits here, a Japanese heard it,and after 5 mins he brought him a basket full of fresh fruits and asked him not to say this thing again there are many such instances of that country...! I cant even imagine any indian doing the same
Today morning i was coming by train, i saw everyone (most of them working in IT company)...throwing polythenes or just anything throwing out of the window of train, after sometime they start complaining of the bad smell that comes when we enter delhi...People(in general, not only IT people) complain (Note: only among themselves) about Water Shortage though they themselves waste a lot, About Electricity shortage (though they wont switch off monitor when not in use, wont switch off street light if its on in d day....)... they complain of pollution (though they will use separate Cars even while going to same destination)... they criticise children attempting suicide due to bad performance in board exams (though they themselves put so much pressure on their on kids..be it doing an MBA or anything)...!! people in IT, when they come back from US/UK, they boast of the living conditions there...and have hundreds of bad things to say about india.... !! was US/UK a developed country since it came into existence???
Does anyone ever come forward to change...!!

[raghav507]

Originally Posted by knightofwar

I would start the post by saying that no nation is perfect, and those which are better have been made that way by the people residing there.
I cant even imagine any indian doing the same

Does anyone ever come forward to change...!!

well said dost...
i could have pressed the thanx button but couldn't resist myself from writing this post...
i completely agree with you...we must change ourselves first in order to be eligible for witnessing any change in the people's mindsets...

[Digital_Saint]

Originally Posted by hameed

If we are a nation that is proud of its resources, then why do we raise dams that would benifit a few whilst destroy the environment around us?

[curious]Which resource are we proud of? [/curious]

I think it would be naive to say that it would benefit a few. It certainly would be bad for the environment. Heck, what's the alternative? Hydroelectricity would be among the best sources of energy, if not the best, speaking in terms of being ecofriendly. It is all about choosing the least-evil.

Originally Posted by hameed

If we are a nation that is not militarily ambitious, then why are we the region's biggest weapons amaser, why do Israel, France and Russia compete to sell us weapons, and why are we increasing our militarty budget whilst the north-east could do with more development?

Simply because we are region's biggest economy. The reason why all these countries compete in defence sales - MONEY. I would rather flaunt the money that I have so that all those businesses are running around me to show their best in order to clinch that deal and I choose the best of all the options that I have.