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31-03-2005, 10:26 AM

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I agree ... can't see why coaching class work-ex won't be considered if all the documents are in place and you are able to justify your role/responsibility if questioned ...

By the way, I know of a faculty member at CL in Mumbai who took CAT and, if I'm not mistaken, has a final admit to SP Jain ...

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My friend!!! One think i came to know in IIM-L interview is that these IIM interviewers are blatantly against these coaching institutes....They even said that to neutralize the effect of these coaching institutes , they have changed the pattern of CAT.. When i said that i taught in TIME institute for 3 months and then got a job in WIPRO and so left it, they said that they will consider the WIPRO workex but in no way accept the TIME work ex..
So, what it means is if u say work-ex , they r expecting it from a company and not from any coaching centre (esp..CAT coaching centre).. That is they r not going to give extra marks for that work-ex..

As of ur friend getting final admit in SPJAIN, he would have got into it without even considering work-ex..may be just thru CAT score, GD and PI..
   
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31-03-2005, 10:39 AM

Work ex in a coaching institute., though technically is work exp, no company will regard it as relevant work experience. So doubt if the interviewers would either. Nice way to earn easy money, but teaching tricks to crack CAT/XAT does not really count as corporate exposure..

There are quite a few opportunities available nowdays for relevant pre-MBA work exp. Infact, I remember an ad in Times Accent where Merrill Lynch was offering roles in equity research (?? not too sure .. it was sometime back).. for undergraduates.. Dont believe you will get a better grounding to get into a good school land a good fin job..

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31-03-2005, 12:25 PM

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Work ex in a coaching institute., though technically is work exp, no company will regard it as relevant work experience. So doubt if the interviewers would either. Nice way to earn easy money, but teaching tricks to crack CAT/XAT does not really count as corporate exposure..

There are quite a few opportunities available nowdays for relevant pre-MBA work exp. Infact, I remember an ad in Times Accent where Merrill Lynch was offering roles in equity research (?? not too sure .. it was sometime back).. for undergraduates.. Dont believe you will get a better grounding to get into a good school land a good fin job..

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On what basis do you claim that a faculty just "teaches tricks to crack CAT/XAT" ? Is that the only thing that you guys think a faculty does ? If that is just what your faculty did, then you guys went to the wrong place.

(1) Verbal, specifically speaking skills need to be more than just "good"

(2) Ability to relate to experiences from people with diverse backgrounds

(3) Knack to "listen" and understand the problem from the students and thereby "mentoring"

(4) Spontaneity to answer questions, presence of mind to deal with situations and to take 2hour presentations at a very short notice (sometimes 15mins)

(5) Do internal marketing by talking to students and many a times give "gyaan" session over a smoke at the parking lot.

(6) Understand the logistics of running a center. You probably don't know the details of the operations management that go into the whole exerciese everytime you walk into a class and you find the material for that session ready or every mocktest that runs like a swiss watch.

.................

Time permitting I could have gone to list a dozen more qualities a person needs to have.

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31-03-2005, 12:43 PM

Fine.. point taken... I was not aware of the .. um.. complexity.. involved..

If you can speak about it as elequently in an interview.. you and use it to your advantange..

But would like to re-iterate.. I dont think a company will not give you a lateral position based on this experience.. they tend to be picky about things like these..

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31-03-2005, 02:48 PM

hey indra
u may manage to get past interview panel in some institutes but it is certainly not the "relevant work ex". as sm1 rightly pointed out marketing job is much better.
best of luck anyway




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hi friends,

I have completed my engineering in 2004 and got admission in some B-schools like ICFAI(hyd), SIIB, FORE. But presently i am working with a coaching class. I want to know if experience of working in coaching classes considered. Please help me .Its urgent.
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31-03-2005, 02:58 PM

I double tht opinion. it surely does nt count as relevant work-ex.


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Re: - 31-03-2005, 06:32 PM

Hey friends.
I think workx as a faculty definately counts as a workX.I had rejected offers from TCS and joined PT(Prof. Tutorials) in raipur as a faculty.And i have converted XL,SJSOM,IITD and other results waiting.And i can recall a long discussion about my workX in all those institutes.

So,I guess all kind of workX(Almost all kind ) is acceptable provided you can justify that.


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31-03-2005, 06:56 PM

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My friend!!! One think i came to know in IIM-L interview is that these IIM interviewers are blatantly against these coaching institutes
they said that they will consider the WIPRO workex but in no way accept the TIME work ex..

That is they r not going to give extra marks for that work-ex..
As they say that any full-time paid work counts as work-ex, i dont see why they can disregard this as work-ex. For all u know, they just tell u in ur interview that they're not gonna count ur work-ex as a means to stress u out. I know panelists even tell people who're workin in family businesses that they dont count that as relevant work-ex.

But ur last point is probably true. If there are points for what kind of work you've been doing, faculty members dont score too much.
   
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Go through the profile of PGP I at the IIM Indore site. You will find two people(Niharika and Rahul) with work experience in coaching institutes.
In IIMK website have a look at the profile of Malini (PGP I). It mentions Career Launcher as her last employer.
   
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Thumbs down excuse me .......what???? - 14-04-2005, 11:37 AM

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Along with the work experience letter , if you can show them the Pay slips , it would be a good proof of genuine work experiece. Coaching institutes may give fake work ex letters but i dont think they can afford to provide fake pay slips.
what kind of fake work ex letters are we talking about, buddy? if ur the sort of person who goes around collecting fake workex letters, i bet u can find one from any company if u know the right ppl. i work at the ho of a bigwig coaching institute, i work my butt off, btw , and have learned some really amazing things about corporate structure, operations, hr, marketing, practical info. im not a faculty, im a course co-ordinator, and i feel im getting more value addition than any softweare job where im sitting and coding.
as for what colleges thinka bout ur work ex, heres what my exp says: at mica, the panelist had this smile on his face and he asked me" so u work for XYZ institute?" i said yes, n told him what id learnt from my job. let me tell u, i wiped his smirk away, got him to sit up n listen. final result? selected (well, waitlisted actually). at imt gaz, the panelsist said he didnt care what id been doing at my workplace. he couldnt care less if i was chief honcho at infosys. final result? selected. i was rejected at nmims and tapmi, but even there the panelists were more keen on discussing what i learnt at my job.
fianlly, i have this to say: from my office, every year ppl join the top b-schools. u can include the iims in that. and as for iiml, a colleague is there as well.
so think before u speak pal, there is no such thing as irrelevant workex.


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