[buck_was]

Originally Posted by vikkuboss2001 @ Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:38 am

How do the IIMs know about the quality of work experience and extra-curricular skills..As far as I remember there was no mention of it in the application form.
Regards,
Vikas

I mentioned calls - both, GD/PI AND final. And this quality factor comes into picture only for final calls... GD/PI is the stage wen every damn thing (plus pts only ) abt u ought to be highlighted...

[livelyln]

hi all,

Last year I know a 94.9 percentiler getting the only iim I call and converting it too.

He had an ex of 3 years...

So guys, what is running thru the minds of the selectors...noone can say for sure...

may be it is the L - factor....

so wish u all guys to have the L FACTOR ...luck that is...

Lively....

[pswaroop]

People as the seats at IIMs are being increased year on year there is a demand to fill up those seats and the IIMs cant usually fill it with the top of top percentile getters always, they also need to have a decent amaount of people who have enough of exposure in indusrty. There is a demand for people with such a profile, and these people are hard to get so there is a chance that IIMs might even go below 94 % to rope in people with good 3+ years of expereince in a good company. Cross u r fingers if u r one in the queue.

[amit_in1976]

Is the cut-off for experienced people depends on the number of work ex. I mean does the cut-off remain the same for 3 yr and 5 yr exp?

[prasunc]

[highlight=midnightblue:5ce36975f3]Is the cut-off for experienced people depends on the number of work ex. I mean does the cut-off remain the same for 3 yr and 5 yr exp? [/highlight:5ce36975f3]


No one knows so keep hoping I guess.....and concentrate on any other exam that you might be giving.

The CAT evaluation tech. ought to be the world's best kept secret.How about poolong resources and hire a pvt detective for it !!!

[Sher Khan]

All of the work ex people cannot be brought under one umbrella.

1. In India, right from 10th standard, tendency is towards becoming a doctor or engineer. Those who score good marks eventually land up in either of the two. For once, I've never seen a person who had 85% or more in 12th standard and opted for B.A or B.Sc because he is interested in that. B.E provides you easy/immediate job (atleast that is the trend for 2 decades now).

2. Also, the number of students who go for commerce groups is very low. Exceptional cases are where 85% or above chooses commerce group. For example, in my school, over 100 were in PCM/PCB group while around 20 were in commerce groups. Please note I'm not demeaning any group or biased towards engineering (as i am) but it is the case in India.

3. This makes the elite section ( who can score 90%ile or more ) consist mostly of engineers (atleast 70% of these people is my guess). That is, out of 15000 people who score more than 90%ile, over 10000 are engineers. This may also be because significant percentage of the CAT takers are engineers.

4. You can easily find a CAT aspirant engineer with work experience and not so with any other streams. This makes it difficult for the working engineer. He has to score more to compete with other working engineer aspirant.

My point is , if you say that a person with 94%ile got a call it is not just because he had work experience. But because he might be a B.Com or C.A or simply a non-engineer who is a rare thing to find.

This is my point of view. Many of you might be differing with me. Your points are welcome.

[pswaroop]

dear Sher Khan...
I don't know how u arrived at these thoughts of yours. the fact lies is 95 percentilers are not on most occasions non -engineers but infact engineers working in some Software company or other manufacturing firm..
And also plz don't just sideline non-engineers....many I know have taken commerce and economics out of pure passion and are really brilliant, I've seen non engineers top rather than engineers at IIMs..
Hope that solves u r ignorance

[Sher Khan]

I knew that I was not totally right. That was a school of thought trying to answer why IIMs give call for a 95%iler by knowing only no.of years of work ex and past academics.
Any IIM guyz , could you figure out this thing ?

BTW, I'm not sidelining non-engineers. Infact I respect them more than my fellow engineers

[ayan]

other than cat scores/gd/pi, i guess there are 3 factors which determine a final call into iims - academics, work ex and extracurriculars . but which of these factors determine an INTERVIEW call? and, how exactly are these 3 evaluated? i mean, by academics, does it mean just the pecentage marks one has scored in all examinations listed in the cat application? or does the college one has graduated from play some role? as for work-ex, is it just the number of months that are listed in the application? in that case, quality of work ex cannot determine an interview call since nothing related to that has to be mentioned on the application form. extracurriculars are obviously something which can be determined during the interview process only. so, how exactly are INTERVIEW calls given on one or more of these parameters? i know that the iim selection process is shrouded in mystery but there has to be SOME logic for the whole thing.

[MvB ACM No9]

OK. Here goes again. This is my analysis on the basis of my interactions with the profs here and other IIMs (dad is IIMC alumnus and uncles from A and B ). Me the proverbial black sheep).

There are a number of parameters. The reason for the discrepancies is that most people don't realise that there is no such thing as a sectional cutoff per se. The CAT paper can be evaluated in a number of ways by the individual IIMs. Like last year IIMC split DI into 2, added one half to VA, the other to QA, then put a cutoff on those 2 and an overall cutoff on the people who cleared both these cutoffs. In years whenthe CAT paper is too easy or too difficult the IIMs may just take one single overall cutoff.....

The comes the workex. There is no such thing as quality of workex in the IIMs for determining the interview calls. That is seen easily enough as they don't ask you which organization or role you are working in. They just consider the number of years and yes, there is a definite relaxation for people with workex and I think it is progressive....

Then comes the acads. yes, the IIMs do consider acads, but not all the IIMs. A does. The rest seemingly do not consider acads for interview calls. I base this on my experience and on the experiences of those I've seen.

Final calls, well, this is where everythig is considered. And this is pretty clear and transparent too. You generally know where you will and where you won't get through.

There is one other factor. Final calls are also based a lot on the profile that the individualIIm is looking at. Like after CAT 2001, IIMB sent out 90-95% calls to people with workex! This is determined on the current placements and the summer placements also to some extent as a gauge of what the industry is looking for. Before slamming me for this, please note that I don't agree with the process totally, but thats the way it is.....another fact thaty displays this is the number of girls in IIML. In the previous batch there were 17. This time there are 48. The reason as told to me by a senior prof is that there was a government directive to improve the gender ratio and the IIML authorities were also inclined towards this. In this however, please note that there is no relaxation in the parameters for clearing CAT. Only that they are given higher priority in the final calls......

Hope this helped..Lemme know if you wanna know any other stuff....Cheers!
Mike