Difference in Quality of Test Series Student Base

[rohit_anand]

hi guyz

I've been thinkin bout this for some time now and even had some
discussions with my friends bout it but am yet to come to a conclusion

Basically this is what i want to know

Is there a lot of difference b\w test taking junta of diff instis as in TIME\CL\IMS\PT?

i have joined CL and TIME....
while i seem to do pretty well regularly in CL tests (in terms of %iles) i find it much harder to get those kind of ranks in TIME papers...

I dunno if its coz of this thing that i have created in my mind or something else
that i end up screwing TIME mocks

If any other ppl are taking both the test series i wud like to know if they have had
a similar kind of problem or are they doing equally in both test series

Another question that leads from the above dilemma is that how do i then judge
my ranks\percentiles?

do i need to look at the insti as well?
as in would a rank < 10 in CL be equivalent to a rank < 30 in TIME...or something on the
same lines....
do reply coz this thing has been buggin me for a while
thanx
rohit

[vikkuboss2001]

Hi rohit,
As for me CL mocks are bugbears.. I have got under AIR 5 in atleast 5-6 aimcats but only once in CL mocks.. So, I dont think the difference in student quality is much. May be it is more about your approach to the paper and some psychological factors. More comments invited ...
Vikas

[tdubey]

I seem to do much better in CL than in IMS.
I dont think that the student quality is different.
But if you have taken classroom coaching of some organization, you tend to get used to their kind of questions. I have a friend who usually gets more than me in time but less in cl. I had a cl classroom coaching and he had enrolled for time.
So i guess familiarity plays an important role.

[vikkuboss2001]

Originally Posted by tdubey @ Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:26 pm

I seem to do much better in CL than in IMS.
I dont think that the student quality is different.
But if you have taken classroom coaching of some organization, you tend to get used to their kind of questions. I have a friend who usually gets more than me in time but less in cl. I had a cl classroom coaching and he had enrolled for time.
So i guess familiarity plays an important role.

May be that is partially true but does not hold in my case.. I am a regular CL student and dont attend the time classes. Still, I am not comfortable with CL questions
Vikas

[supervish]

ims DI is crazy... CL verbal is crazy many a time. I think i'll like the one on Nov 21st

[rohit_anand]

Originally Posted by tdubey @ Sun Oct 17, 2004 6:26 pm

I seem to do much better in CL than in IMS.
I dont think that the student quality is different.
But if you have taken classroom coaching of some organization, you tend to get used to their kind of questions. I have a friend who usually gets more than me in time but less in cl. I had a cl classroom coaching and he had enrolled for time.
So i guess familiarity plays an important role.

I think u have a point when u say that familiarity has a part to play
that wud explain a lotta things...
also that wud mean that these discrepancies wud be wiped out for the real CAT coz no funda of familiarity there
am feelin better already

[rohitk]

hi
well this is one question which has been bothering me too for some time (anand started it bfore me so he is first here as well )

i feel diff performance in diff mocks has got more to do with the mindset and the type of quests.although u'vent joined ne other test series than cl,i've gone thru ims and time's papers and feel that they r diff frm cl's.changes might b subtle but r present.eg. usually time's di is heavy on calculation front ditto for ims but cl's is well .........strange diff in diff mocks

so more or less its bout kinda paper and familiarity than anything else

rohit kaul

[t2s]

Fact remains that different tests 'invite' different champions..IMS is rather skewed in testing because their di and quant are too hard, making the Sims verbally inclined....I dont know about Time, but CL is equibalanced on the lines of CAT.

However IMS has the largest pool of test- players..yet the cutoffs and the difficulty levels make it different in distribution of success than Cat...Most of their studs who are unable to clear the cutoffs do so in CAT, u've only to look at SIM's anlysis of yester-years.

The problem is that a particular test type promotes a particular 'band' of stategies with a 'band' of talent.

I think overall the SIm/Mock which is similar to the real one is the best. There are very few who r champs in all test patterns, otherwise u can expect a small change in 'frequency distrib' curve with respect to kind / and even pattern / no of sections etal. in the tests.

If I may extend this argument a lot further, then not all maths olympiad toppers top in IIT JEE, not all JEE toppers top in their BTechs and not all of 'these' score 800 in GMAT or 100 in CAT or top the civil services ! Ofcourse there r select few who do top all- and there r 'a lot few' who do well in all if not 'top' in all!

[methuselah]

Well ...at last ..someone finally did start this thread...

I'm a repeater and giving cat for the second time...

I've taken TIME classroom coaching last yr and my prep wasnt that great ( atleast compared to this year )

Last year my percentiles have fluctuated from 80 - 98 ....there was no consistency..

In the feb 15th cat paper...cud manage abt 50 ....30 (va ) / 10 / 10

Now this year..I've joined CL classroom coaching and have enrolled for the TIME test series...but havent been able to take TIME AIMCATS ( due to clash in mock timings of CL and TIME )

As far as CL mocks are concerned my percentiles have been..
92 / 97 / 99 / 99 / 99 / 97 / 99 / 99

But when it comes to TIME AIMCATS my percentiles have been fluctuating as usual and the best so far has been around 96...and worst being 85...

Going by my performance in CL mocks ...faculty @ CL say that...they dont find any reason for me not to expect less than 6 calls

Unfortunately ...my TIME AIMCATS performance have a diff story to tell ...

In today's mock i've scored abt 46 in AIMCAT 515 ...

Please guys....do pour in your inputs which can help me sort out the discrepencies...

I've lost hope and even thought of giving up (...I know this sounds sick to ppl who've been giving just CL mocks ...but then ..I do have my own reasons...I'm wasting one year and cant afford one more...

Please help me out...with arnd 30 days to go ...I'm losing my sense

[ashishyahoo]

hi guys....

rightly said bout IMS DI...what do they think...we got 4 hrs to answer the paper or somethin?? none of their tables are straightforward...all hi-funda calculations....not fair isnt it?

but one thing...i cant really predict the DI of CAT....it has been easy in the last 2 years...but this year they can turn the tables on us...in fact of course...the entire CAT is unpredictable....what u say guys??

Ashish