Software guy in dilemma

[hanu]

Hi Frns

the more time passes away the more i am drowning in my daily chores and the day-to-day activities of the job that i have...its been 2 years having passed out of college and my enthusiasm seems to fade away for higther studies et al MBA....

i fail to understand why MBA?

if its for a job then i already have one (32 K p.m.) to be precise
if its for promotions/rise, i will get a team lead position in 1-2 yrs in my comp.
if for foreign positions then that is highly probable in my company....

if these are not the usual reasons then why?

also i dont understand what am mba will do in a hardcore sw comp like ours that works on embedded systems and computer networks

in fact i dont see myself selling these chips and sw that we make to our clients marketing just reminds me of a salesman

okey so its for the money, big bonuses, private jets, etc?



i asked one of my cousins who did 5 yrs exp in siemens before his MBA for INSEAD France ( world no. 2 MBA) and he says its foolish to do an mba right after graduation...moreover foreign instis. dont even give u admission for < than 4-5 yrs. exp.

but then again i think why MBA? i have seen many techies make it big (VPs, CEos) without an MBA.....


man enlighten me ...i hope some senior guys of this grp can give a good insight to it...

[cat makes me mad]

well i share the same doubts with u.
in western countries MBA is treated as a skill and not as a degree.so generally people above 35 go for MBA as a part time course there.
(watch kal ho naa ho)
in india i guess the general mentality, is to accumulate degrees before u start working.
i feel one should have minimum 5 yrs work exp. to benefit from a MBA degree.

[satanincarnate]

But even very good companies from abroad are ready to lap up freshies ..
My take is for a person like you an MBA will matter if you want a change in field(say Finance) or a change in function. As for work-ex being necessary, Indian B-schools have a different model altogether(thank god?) and believe freshers come with an advantage of no baggage from previous work .. but if u r going for something like general management/admin work-ex is a must ..
If u r gonna be a number-crunching hard-working exec .. ur work-ex wont much matter .. what do u all think?

[Chandoo]

moving this thread to chit-chat section.

,
Chandoo

[capreal26]

aha .. long time since I posted... I better get back to good ol days

interesting post Hanu .....

i fail to understand why MBA?

Welcome to the party

but just think. if so many successful people think highly of it, why do you need to worry abt its value. you can atleast trust their wisdom

if its for a job then i already have one (32 K p.m.) to be precise

It sure isnt only for a job ..

if its for promotions/rise, i will get a team lead position in 1-2 yrs in my comp.

good , so you have a 2 year view of things... try streching that to 5 years.. maybe 10 years.. u might start to feel the need of an additional qualification .. note the use of word 'might' .... not necessary everytime

if for foreign positions then that is highly probable in my company....

if these are not the usual reasons then why?

arent there umpteen threads already on this in chit-chat section

also i dont understand what am mba will do in a hardcore sw comp like ours that works on embedded systems and computer networks

in fact i dont see myself selling these chips and sw that we make to our clients marketing just reminds me of a salesman

Is that all you know of MBA work profile & Marketing.. all corporations might not have structures which favour a Business education but many many in the world do have.. after all . are you going to stick to this org for ever ?

okey so its for the money, big bonuses, private jets, etc?

private jets

asked one of my cousins who did 5 yrs exp in siemens before his MBA for INSEAD France ( world no. 2 MBA)

Insead is not No. 2 in world.. Its in top 3 non US MBAs ...

but then again i think why MBA? i have seen many techies make it big (VPs, CEos) without an MBA.....

wat say junta ..

[Chandoo]

Originally Posted by hanu

i fail to understand why MBA?

Err.. may be it is not the right time for you to take the plunge

if its for a job then i already have one (32 K p.m.) to be precise
if its for promotions/rise, i will get a team lead position in 1-2 yrs in my comp.
if for foreign positions then that is highly probable in my company....

Hmm... i feel that, to prevent stagnation you need an mba. well, you can always raise in tech positions. What abt man/admn positions. After PL you slog for years to become PM and then, you may be handicapped in making some decisions because you dont know or you dont have the right funda. say, feasibility study. Unless you have a very good business knowledge, your perspective will be limitied.
coming to foriegn position, what kind of position does our companies offer. Onsite Support/support lead. With mba you can goto foriegn to do negotiations that is to name one :P

also i dont understand what am mba will do in a hardcore sw comp like ours that works on embedded systems and computer networks

in fact i dont see myself selling these chips and sw that we make to our clients marketing just reminds me of a salesman

there is so much beyond selling in business.

but then again i think why MBA? i have seen many techies make it big (VPs, CEos) without an MBA.....
man enlighten me ...i hope some senior guys of this grp can give a good insight to it...

Well, all those i have VPs/CEOs i have seen are either founders or relatives of founders. well, since i dont have enough money to set up a co now and i dont have an uncle running one, i am going for an mba

Ensoi ,
Chandoo

PS: All the views are expressed in lighter vien. should be taken with a pinch of salt :P

[shuki]

Bahti ganga mai humhu haath dho le

Just to give a little substance to this discussion, i have two queries

1. Name some IIM alumnis who have contributed significantly to indian business

Ans: The names which come to my mind at present are CK Prahlad (Core competency guru, IIMA) and recently Raghuram G Rajan (chief advisor to IMF). But they are more of reserchers who have made big rather help create wealth (read wealth creators Vs wealth chasers thread )

2. Name an entrepreneur cum MBA

None i could think of....

[Catalytic]

Totally agree with Chandoo on this...
in Tech field u can grow up to pm max with just a B.E/B.Tech degree...after that scope of promotions start dimnishing.... in smaller companys u may see ppl reaching upto the post of GM but u never aim small u would always like to work with big names in the industry.. if position matter so much one can open its own company and become a CEO...

Its not necessary that after ur MBA u leave the technical field.. u can always go back and infact be more productive than what u used to be..I know ppl who have done that and r on big posts now

With ur Work ex and tech backgrnd MBA should b given more than just a passing thought.. this is the right time for doing it otherwise it may get late

Cheers

[satanincarnate]

Originally Posted by shuki

Bahti ganga mai humhu haath dho le

Just to give a little substance to this discussion, i have two queries

1. Name some IIM alumnis who have contributed significantly to indian business

Ans: The names which come to my mind at present are CK Prahlad (Core competency guru, IIMA) and recently Raghuram G Rajan (chief advisor to IMF). But they are more of reserchers who have made big rather help create wealth (read wealth creators Vs wealth chasers thread )

2. Name an entrepreneur cum MBA

None i could think of....

Jerry Rao of IIM-A .. very much in news this day .. MPhasis founder and Nasscom chairman .. Phaneesh Murthy had a big role in infy's success though he is not one of the founders .. trying to recall others also .. know quite a few smaller successes though!!

[satanincarnate]

Originally Posted by cooldude2281

Totally agree with Chandoo on this...
in Tech field u can grow up to pm max with just a B.E/B.Tech degree...after that scope of promotions start dimnishing.... in smaller companys u may see ppl reaching upto the post of GM but u never aim small u would always like to work with big names in the industry.. if position matter so much one can open its own company and become a CEO...

Its not necessary that after ur MBA u leave the technical field.. u can always go back and infact be more productive than what u used to be..I know ppl who have done that and r on big posts now

With ur Work ex and tech backgrnd MBA should b given more than just a passing thought.. this is the right time for doing it otherwise it may get late

Cheers

Guess u can grow purely with atech degree also but I am sure an MBA is not going to hurt and only help in the long run in most cases