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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 01:49 AM

Had always thought PG was a place which wld never ever go for sensational reporting and that too under the garb of accusation of Government funds used to develop these institutes..So does that mean PG would nt ve thought it to be big deal had they been private institutes..no wonder, i am disappointed



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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 01:52 AM

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Just got one word. Sad.

I'v been here for a while. Made some friends. And respect this place.

End of the day, you know it wudnt make much of a differnce. To u, to me, or to millions of people who'll watch this, swear the same stuff themselves and still want to come here.

I mean, C'mon guys. Seriously.

Still everybody's entitled to their opinion, but i'll just say this, that u guys really crossed the line and let yourselves down...

I hope my newly created id conveys everything I want to say....
I sincerely hope tomorrow when I logon to PG I do not see an article with the heading "India TV/Aaj Tak acquires PG".. Guys its pathetic.... Think a little before you sensationalize trivial issues.... Start a vote asking how many puys are happy with this kind of reporting by PG.. M sure all puys will want their dear old PG bak... I hate this new 'wannabe Tehelka.com' avatar of PG..

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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 01:55 AM

women swearing sound so cute ..... do we have more such videos ... please upload them as well


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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 02:08 AM

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women swearing sound so cute ..... do we more such videos ... please upload them as well
Don't know if this meant sarcasm or not. But in either case, a highly distasteful comment which shouldn't be present on public forums.
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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 02:19 AM

To be clear of my point before the post -> I am not here to debate whether swearing is right or not, I am here to argue why it was put on the first page of PG & I am here to debate against people who are trying to prove that it was right with senseless & logic-less comments.

@ Apurv & PG HQ -> It really is like Aaj Tak or any other Indian news channel man. The comments that you have written clearly shows that they have no logic. You have pulled those comments from somewhere to put in article & it clearly looks that it was merely an effort of creating a "breaking news".

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"What is so shocking about it? Don't we see it everywhere these days? Movies, TV, what have you? Sab chalta hai yaar."

"You're shocked because it's women who're abusing. Had it been men you would be okay. You clearly believe in a male dominating society."

"Why don't you also look at the good things these institutes do? Just because they hurl abuses at mothers doesn't mean they're bad people."
Just consider these comments as someone else's & ponder over that.

Tax payer's money, posting comment from C's dean was just bull****.

Q.1 Why was the abusing material was put up on thread?

Please don't defend it saying we wanted to show the culture of b-schools & all that crap.

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I am not from an engineering/hostel background and I arguably am surprised. I do find it surprising to see that a lot of engineering folks find this normal
I am not gonna argue this on basis of anyone's background. It does not matter. I have seen a lot of colleges-schools, have leaved in hostel & at flat too. There is no college-school students do these things.

I was not at AIPGM, but I read AIPGM Aftermath, & I remember pretty clearly telling about the abuses all things. So please, people who are trying to tell that it they are surprised, please come to reality.

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Andy, nothing personal - but I truly don't know of women who'd do this.
Even if you sit for 5 minutes in front of MTV you would have know it, or just spend some time in Delhi or any North region of India.

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We can't impose rules, nor decide what is moral
Then why at the first place the claims -
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All of us at the PaGaLGuY office were appalled at the video
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What we want to ask is, are we okay with our country's taxpayer-funded educational institutions being utilized this way? Can these campuses ever compete with Harvard and Oxfords of the world? Most importantly, is this the right thing and are you okay with what you see?

We don't think so,

Q.2 What was the intention of the PG to put up this article ?

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as i told in my earlier post - swearing for fun or based on the heat of the moment is understandable. not encouraged but understandable.

swearing so as to gain a point over your opponent isn't . that as a strategy so that ppl coach their juniors on how to do this isn't acceptable mate.

will you accept that ?
Was this thread started for discussing swearing ? Please go through the first post again & let me know.

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i suppose the bschool students agree with me regarding the importance of ethics.
As I said, no one here is arguing whether women swearing should be allowed or not. It's about the article being put up here. Okay ?

Sledging is so much common, cricket, football, our daily life, every other movie has it, so why so much hype-hula about this ?


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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 02:27 AM

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Don't know if this meant sarcasm or not. But in either case, a highly distasteful comment which shouldn't be present on public forums.

yeah it was intentional sarcasm ..... anywayz please come down from the high pedestal of morality ..... the video has blurred faces yet the swearing wasnt beeped ....... and my comment was distasteful ...


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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 02:40 AM

Following are the four "Main stories" on the PG front page.

  • Shocking Video: Indian Institutes of Tasteless Swearing
  • The Richard Ivey Admission Director Interview
  • First Look inside IIM Shillong!
  • Which b-schools would you like to include in the PaGaLGuY.com B-school Rankings 2009?

It wouldn't take much time to find the odd man out. But one question still remains unanswered. Why??? What is this article doing on PG??

Following is the mission statement of PG

"To create and maintain the world's largest and most comprehensive management education community. To achieve this, we will constantly redefine creation and delivery of content, implement insane [ but profitable ] marketing strategies and create innumerable sticky services that will enable us to become an irreplaceable part of the life of everybody who accesses our website."

So is it one of those "insane [ but profitable ] marketing strategies"???
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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 02:49 AM

Sad Sad sad and really a very sad incident.
Not because this video depicts Future managers swearing at each other, its because Pagal guy has become host to this kind of article.
When we as fellow PG user's have never compared B-schools, said any thing to distort the image of any college, then why some one has put up this article?

The writer has raised questions on girls swearing, top notch institues wasting public money and all other rhetorical issues, which as rightly pointed out by my fellow PGites looks good on AAJ Tak.
I want to ask whats the purpose of this article????????

There are so many Morality and social issues that are there to be tackled. Why pick up on something like this and then name the colleges involved? what is the role played by colleges in it. No college give lectures on "How to swear". Its the person's prerogative how he wants to convey his/her feelings ( I am not supporting swearing though). If any one who swears, will swear whether he is in parliament, on TV or in XYZ MBA college.

I can keep writing on & on , on this topic. I just want to conclude by saying that PG is a forum, Its not a platform to dictate terms of Morality , especially when all the user's are adult's.

Now i propose that a poll be started to gauge public opinion whether this article be removed from PG or not. I suppose this article should be removed from data base, like in parliament they dont record all the abuses and unwanted things that happen.

My vote is that this article be removed/ freezed.

PS- Don't want to say this, but this is the first thing i have come acrossed on PG that i don't like:huh:
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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 02:52 AM

Harbhajan swears and entire India supports him and when few women from a reputed B-school swears you vilify the institute. Where is PG heading? No one ever told me that future managers cannnot swear.

Go to any college in any metro in India and you will find women swearing. Leave alone colleges, go to any school in Delhi or Bangalore and you will hear students swearing. So what's the big deal in swearing. I don't support swearing just as i don't support smoking or drinking, but that doesn't mean i start making judgement about people who smoke, drink or swear.

You know what, i didn't find the video distasteful rather i found the fact that PG uploaded the video on the site distasteful. People are banned for using expletives on threads or Sb and here we have entire video for everyone to see and hear. Why such hypocrasy?

And as far as tax-payers money is concerned, i don't think we have to worry about that. It's the quality of education that matters, and a few expletives would not see IIM-c or XL moving to the bottom of ranking tables. If that was the case, IITs would had been overtaken by other engineering colleges long back.

Harward-Yale-Oxford?
Are they the epitome of morality or its just the typical indian mentality that everything foriegn is bound to be good.

I used to love the quality of articles on PG, but this article is not in league with any of the articles previously posted. This article reeks of sensationalism.

I have nothing against anyone at PG HQ but aren't we making a mountian out of a molehill.

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re: [PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - 22-07-2008, 03:04 AM

Once ready to do anything to help the fellow PGites, I wanted PG to reach another level. But not this level.

It has touched the bottom levels. There are thousands of users who used to consider this forum more as a family. I doubt whether a person would have thought anything else apart from some more revenues before opening such a thread.
The poster has been successful in getting the views of all big B-school students and many more enthusiastic aspirants. But at the same time he was successful in making many of us believe that PG is not the place what we thought to be.

I am not here to say that Apurv did right or wrong. But he should surely understand that being a moderator of such a big forum invites some responsibilities.

You can google and find a lot of articles, images or videos about all the top B-schools. But is Pagalguy here to do that.. That would make many of us rethink what are we doing here on PG.

Here on, Hoping for a better sense to prevail.


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