[PaGaLGuY Debate] The dark side of our B-school campus cultures, traditions and more - Page 5 - PaGaLGuY.com - The Everything of MBA in India and Abroad, CAT 2009, GMAT, XAT, MAT

cat=chimera · 11:56 PM

Just wonder what if someday one of these gals from Joka find themselves seated in the same boardroom discussing something of prime importance with their counterpart from Jampot.

.. In case they have a good memory ........:2gunfire::2gunfire::argue::argue:

PS: Really feel that PG had no need to put this story /raise the trivial issue....

shyamnaren

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And Pagalguy.com has done the right thing, bringing such issue on forums for debate.

The issue is not about starting a debate, its about sensationalizing it, being "judgemental" about it, using high & mighty sounding words like 'shocking', 'women students' & putting it up on the front page.... If it had been "just another thread", all of us would have dropped our 2 cents & moved on !

nikhilkulk

I have a few points to make and would to hear some comments:

1. People accusing that their privacy has been encroached upon -> Come on this is no hidden camera or a MMS scandal. This is a video shot by one among the students and being uploaded on the largest video sharing site in the world and up for public consumption. It is not a expose or a project taken up by PG or anyone else. You put a video up for viewing and I have every right to comment on it. Whether youc are 2 hoots about my comment or not is a different thing!

2. Maybe I had a very boring college life and some very very boring friends - But you try telling me that swearing and use of expletives is a norm across all campuses of India and I will stand up and oppose that point vehemently. No Sir! It does not happen everywhere. Don't generalize things just because that's what happened in your institutions. And those of us who have been part of such institutions are probably more sensitive to such issues because we find the use of expletives tasteless and an evil that can be avoided! It amy be fine with you and you may continue doing that, but somebody asks me to do that and I wil lstrongly object and thats where the most important and third point comes in

3. On the "coaching" aspect of things! This to me is the most shocking and appalling part of the whole incident! I mean do people really get so sucked up to the IIM -XL tag- that they stop questioning things and start blindly following "traditions" Did not any of these girsl in the video feel the need to ask a question to themselves when they were being "coached" - Is this the right thing? Does this come naturally to me? Is this really needed? Do all the students get so sucked up by the B-School brand that they follow alumni traditions blindly! What happens to the high moral ground shown during interviews? Somenody mentioned in the thread that B-schools are not meant to be a beacon of morality. If that is the case, then cut the crap in B-school interviews which allegedly requires you to show some character, values and blah blah blah. Just mention it directly that we are looking for people who can follow traditions, follow orders without questioning them! We dont care about his values, his ability to stand up for things that are right! We want people who can and will follow authority without even questioning them once!

I know it is a far fetched possibility, but would have loved to see a post from a girl belonging to IIMC or XL!

rushivasani · 02:35 AM

College rivalries are not a new thing. As for this video, I knew about this for quite some time and I am sure many puys here would have some information on this prior to the opening of this thread.

But somehow, I didn't find this topic relevant enough to be raised on a public forum for some reasons. The first thing being, this is the internal matter of the students of those B-schools and let them handle it.
Secondly, these acts/videos do not in any ways dilute the quality of MBAs coming out of the institute. The same girls would be one of the highest paid female executives in India.

Again, I find it hard to understand the need of this kind of a video/topic being raised on PG. When people are being banned on PG for even a mention of the words that are used in the video, what is the sense of uploading a video on PG.
All though these 2-3 years on PG, i have firmly believed that the mission of PG is to provide unbiased information of B-schools while focusing on the quality of the content (That is the reason we dont get into comparing of B-schools) . The inside information of B-schools are only at the helm of Students (Life@ Bschool thread) and Administrators of the respective B-schools (Director's interview). Never ever (As per my information) has PG ventured into this kind of sensationalism or intrusion of a B-school life.

@PG administrators : Pleeease dont let the quality content of PG get diluted. No rational human being is gonna let go IIM-C/XLRI for the reason that there are derogatory words being used in the sports meet.

I also feel that every the B-school deserves its sense of privacy. Its better that we give them that.......

monsterkartik

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Originally Posted by nikhilkulk

On the "coaching" aspect of things! This to me is the most shocking and appalling part of the whole incident! I mean do people really get so sucked up to the IIM -XL tag- that they stop questioning things and start blindly following "traditions" Did not any of these girsl in the video feel the need to ask a question to themselves when they were being "coached" - Is this the right thing? Does this come naturally to me? Is this really needed? Do all the students get so sucked up by the B-School brand that they follow alumni traditions blindly! What happens to the high moral ground shown during interviews? Somenody mentioned in the thread that B-schools are not meant to be a beacon of morality. If that is the case, then cut the crap in B-school interviews which allegedly requires you to show some character, values and blah blah blah. Just mention it directly that we are looking for people who can follow traditions, follow orders without questioning them! We dont care about his values, his ability to stand up for things that are right! We want people who can and will follow authority without even questioning them once!

I know it is a far fetched possibility, but would have loved to see a post from a girl belonging to IIMC or XL!

I dont know, but what i ll say is that when you belong to instis like IIM C / XL then i think you can die for it, following such a tradition is a trivial thing and i think this is way an Alumini as strong as of IIM C / XL comes to life. I have no experience in B school interviews, but i dont think that they ever test your morality in these GD / PI's. I have heard about arbit questions being asked to candidates (which you may term as against the morals but still are asked to test the candidate's reaction under pressure)

The question what comes to me is that is this really a question of morality ?? this is just what you call hooting as, though the words chosen are not the best one could think of, but if you look the purpose behind it.

You know we have a principle that is used in accounting, i am sure people in B school have been taught this. It goes as

" Substance over form "

What this means it, when you look into a transaction, you should look at the basic pupose of it rather than the way it has been presented to you. I dont know how many would agree with me here, but hell sure all my fellows of ICAI on pagalguy know i am bang on

Hope made some sense to others too

Please Lets not make this a moral issue.

deepu · 12:37 AM

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Please explain this in more detail. How is taxpayer's money and expletives for a 2 day meet related?

I agree that what is being shown in the video is not something to be proud of, but it beats me why would someone who has spent even 7 days in college hostel (be it engineering, MBA or anything else) would ever be surprised at seeing this.

when i saw the video first, my initial reaction was - "what is the big deal ? it is quite common in hostels" although apurv didn't agree with me. after being in a hostel for around 8 yrs i know such incidents happen due to the heat of the moment. one guy starts and the rest follow.

But after reading what some of the students from both institutes have to say about this i changed my opinion. They didn't do this because they got carried away. It seems they plan similar things every year just to gain an edge over their opponent. now this is sad. this behavior leads to doing anything and everything to gain an edge over your opponents. i am sorry such behaviour is completely unacceptable. why do we hate sportsman who took drugs so that he can be the winner ? isn't it because of similar behaviour.

what i wonder is did anyone within these instis tried to oppose such behavior ? These days one can just write a blog post or start a thread in relavent forum to question such behavior. none even did that i suppose.

Cheers,
Deepu.

amitnsitian

I have been with PG for over 3 years and this is the most ridiculous/outrageous post/"news" article I have ever read.

What are you trying to show Apurv?

1. People abuse?
2. B- Schoolers abuse?
3. Girls abuse?
4. IIM-Cians abuse?

Sorry, I am not very bright child and it would be great had you been explicit in highlighting the issue.

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