Microsoft & U!

[Tittutomen]

Its been long I wanted to start a thread on this topic. I really get surprised reading & listening about so much for & agnaist MS.

The name is Microsoft is so ubiquitous. It is present starting from OS to Word Processors, Chatting (MSN) to Bill Payment, Search engine to game consoles & u name it any field in software business.

Programmers name it to exemplify not so robust software. Quality engineers blame it for poor quality. Law makers name it as monopolistic business practice & using the money-muscle. It is popular among marketing peoples for using dirty politics to win markets.

Yet with all the negative talk people still use its products. Successively it remains as the most profitable company in the Fortune/Forbes list. And the organization is donating a lot of money for philanthropy.

Why hate it? Is it really bad? If its products are worse, then why use it? (Don’t tell me we don’t have options)

Again shall we praise the organization because of its philanthropy & its part of our live now already? Isn’t it creditworthy as the first company to make PC popular?

Which side will you take? For or against? And why, any reasons?

Pour in your thoughts & let's give MS justice.

[mohit_ranka]

Hi Tittutomen,
I do not know about others, but I personally dont like MS much(though I would love to work for them, what an irony!! ), because of their business policies..... They have encouraged monolopy in the free markey economy, because i have to buy Windows media player and IE too when I purchase any of their OS.....

Waise I do write for osnesws.com, the best internet magazine for os news..... have written a similar article on Google.....(I was feeling lucky!! )

Cheers

[rmbt]

Originally Posted by mohit_ranka

Hi Tittutomen,
I do not know about others, but I personally dont like MS much(though I would love to work for them, what an irony!! ), because of their business policies..... They have encouraged monolopy in the free markey economy, because i have to buy Windows media player and IE too when I purchase any of their OS.....

Waise I do write for osnesws.com, the best internet magazine for os news..... have written a similar article on Google.....(I was feeling lucky!! )

Cheers

Yes, MIcrosoft has encouraged Monoly in the free market Economy but when do you pay extra for Media player or IE. These come as free packages and henc remeber the case when NETSCAPE went out of business.

Microsoft would have been unreasonable if WINDOWS could only support Nicrosoft based Software. They allow you to use real/divx/powerdvd etc.....So ,I think there is nothing unreasonable about WINDOWS.

Bill gates has never misused the MONOPLY and constantly works hard to dominate the market.

[subodh_iit]

Microsoft is the by-product of capitalist economy operating within a world of ordinary fellas.

If u wanna cure the ills, its high time to start thinking about Socialism.

Or Oligarchy - the rule of the few over many... Oligarchs can then moderate the earnings of the pure marketing brains -- all hype, pretty less substance..

[fultoo_bakar]

The thread is not going where it is supposed to.......why have we all started critisizing MS when poor(or not so poor) Bill Gates has never bent rules to gain his share in the market.....

Were he and paul allen(co-founder) at fault in mid 50's when they dreamt of software for bulky machines. They had a vision, worked on it and now they are thriving because of it.....

We scorn at the very name of MS may be because the company is undoubtable market leader and is touted to remain so for years to come. But we should accept it no matter how much we hate MS products, but windows will remain most user friendly software to operate.

after all we do hate aussie's for their cricketing skills????

[subodh_iit]

Originally Posted by fultoo_bakar

But we should accept it no matter how much we hate MS products, but windows will remain most user friendly software to operate.

Before passing such judgments, try to get the meaning of the term clear. My right hand is more user(me)-friendly because I use it again and again.

Try to use other OSes again n again, and u will realize that it is no more user-friendly than others. It all depends on individual convenience.

The main reason for Windows popularity in India is that a pirated copy is easily available and easy to install. Linux is a little difficult to install, and Solaris & MacOS were not available till date..

Besides, due to the initial head-start by windows, the .exe softwares for just about anything are easily available making people to believe that Windows is the most convenient OS.

[fultoo_bakar]

Originally Posted by subodh_iit

Before passing such judgments, try to get the meaning of the term clear. My right hand is more user(me)-friendly because I use it again and again.

Try to use other OSes again n again, and u will realize that it is no more user-friendly than others. It all depends on individual convenience.

The main reason for Windows popularity in India is that a pirated copy is easily available and easy to install. Linux is a little difficult to install, and Solaris & MacOS were not available till date..

Besides, due to the initial head-start by windows, the .exe softwares for just about anything are easily available making people to believe that Windows is the most convenient OS.

Market share of various O.S's (2005)
Mac 2.7%
Linux 3.1%
rest is with windows.............

These figures are not specific to any country as such.
year of launch of these three os
Mac 1983
Linux 1991
Windows 1985

so all these three have been in this business for quite some time now.....will come up with more info soon...

[rmbt]

Originally Posted by subodh_iit

Before passing such judgments, try to get the meaning of the term clear. My right hand is more user(me)-friendly because I use it again and again.

Try to use other OSes again n again, and u will realize that it is no more user-friendly than others. It all depends on individual convenience.

The main reason for Windows popularity in India is that a pirated copy is easily available and easy to install. Linux is a little difficult to install, and Solaris & MacOS were not available till date..

Besides, due to the initial head-start by windows, the .exe softwares for just about anything are easily available making people to believe that Windows is the most convenient OS.

Ok leaving India, rest of the world should be split with MAC and Linux as well.

This is not the case as WINDOWS is so popular coz of its user friendly interface and easy for a rookie to get accustomed to PC and work on it.

People/corporates use it as its easy to work on rather than pirated software availabe in India. If i m not wrong, LINUX requries you to feed in command to perform actions where as Windows is just a click away.

[fultoo_bakar]

Originally Posted by subodh_iit

Before passing such judgments, try to get the meaning of the term clear. My right hand is more user(me)-friendly because I use it again and again. .

well your right hand is user friendly because its more competent...not becaue you use it more often. put it this way, it is competent thats y you use it often

Originally Posted by subodh_iit

The main reason for Windows popularity in India is that a pirated copy is easily available and easy to install. Linux is a little difficult to install, and Solaris & MacOS were not available till date...

Most of the market share given in my previous post are authentic users. No doubt the OS gaints lose tons of money due to piracy, but still the registered users are their main source of income. India's PC penetration is 20/1000 population. The large chunk of this penetration will be corporate houses which are regestered users.( i will come with data to corroborate)

Originally Posted by subodh_iit

Besides, due to the initial head-start by windows, the .exe softwares for just about anything are easily available making people to believe that Windows is the most convenient OS.

see my earlier post. all these OS have been launched almost at the same time. All these have been given enough years to establish themselves.

[subodh_iit]

Originally Posted by rmbt

Ok leaving India, rest of the world should be split with MAC and Linux as well.

This is not the case as WINDOWS is so popular coz of its user friendly interface and easy for a rookie to get accustomed to PC and work on it.

People/corporates use it as its easy to work on rather than pirated software availabe in India. If i m not wrong, LINUX requries you to feed in command to perform actions where as Windows is just a click away.

Windows success everywhere can be attributed to similar reasons more hype, less substance.

Linux has the GUI that is as good as Windows. Besides, it allows you to have an option of themes ranging from Mac-like to Windows-like..

Coming back to MacOS, Windows has always been a copy cat of Mac OS with slight modifications. But the reason Mac OS has failed to cut ice is that Apple Laptops are not really affordable for all and sundry.

I have also used Solaris, and believe me after a point of time, when I got used to it and started loving the flexibility it offers, using Windows started to become a pain..

The new Windows OS, Vista is a horrible take on Mac OS. Microsoft continues to come oout with worse stuff woith each passing version with much fanfare, and gullible Junta keep on learning horrible things.

@fultoo_bakar
It is misconception dude, that right hand is more efficient. Its muscles become well developed because we use it often.. In Gym, u are asked to do the same sets with both hands. Initially u encounter more problems with Left, but after an amount of time, both hands become equally adept at doing weights.

Try brushing ur teeth with left hand for 3 months.. Initially it will be painful, but at the end of 3 months ur left hand will become as much trained in brushing teeth as right.. It is also a mental exercise. Because u have to consciously keep attention on brushing with left.

BTW, by Windows head-start I meant its grabbing the market share in cheaper affordable PCs.