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Oxford Said & Cambridge Judge MBA 2012 applicants & admits

I am starting this thread for the prospective students and applicants for the above two school. I am planning to apply in the R1 for both the school, the deadline for submitting application is - Cambridge - 23rd Sep,'11 Oxford - 14th Oct,'11...
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I am an MFE aspirant to Oxford and also have got an interview call for Round 2. Any other MFE applicants here preparing fr interview?


I was waitlisted for MFE in Round 2.. Any idea what are the chances of converting..??
Interesting comments throughout the thread. Well I guess I have much to contribute to help all those thinking of doing an MBA from the UK.
Firstly, no jobs. PSW (post study work visa) or not (which again is getting stopped from this year) jobs are very scarce and the current government is under immense pressure to not allow foreigners to land up jobs on UK shores. Of course you might find some odd jobs but you do not really wish to be MacD guy with an MBA do you?
So if you have a problem with money I guess its not good to come unless you are graduating from LBS. However, the experience was really good. Lots of exposure, different styles of teaching, different people and I made a whole lot of friends from different nations. Studies is good and standards are high. Its a one year course and you need to get a distinction (70%) to be actually considered for any decent job but 70% there is way harder than that in India.
For anyone dissing the UK, I agree it is a risk. If you are an average student with no family business back up then do not go. However if you are good or have some money to spare and really tired of some 3-4 lac job in India just go.
For anyone comparing jobs in India to the UK: In India you can never work in a restaurant and still support yourself. Unless you have IIT/IIM brand it is still hard to get a job. Naukri.com reports 5000 applications for each management level fresher/1-2 yrs work ex job. So India is not rosy. Yes, due to the stupid conversion rate things just seem very expensive to someone from India to the UK but so says my friend who is from Bihar about Mumbai.
My quals: BTech Chem Engg IIT-G, MS Pharmacy USC, MBA Warwick.
And honest reply regarding jobs. I am working in a top MNC in Mumbai with a salary of 13 lacs pa. Before I went abroad I was working at 8 lacs pa. My girlfriend who is just graduating from IIM-L is getting 14 lacs pa on joining with 0 exp. And I was basically hired on my IIT undergrad degree. So studying abroad makes little difference. And even makes me rather frustrated with work life in India sometimes. But the problem is this, the 3 persons directly reporting to me have all got MBA's and are engineers from Mumbai university or some other relatively lesser known colleges. And they all get something like 4-5 lacs pa with 5-6 yrs more experience than me. Considering that a very small percentage will get through IIT/IIM it seems terrible that employers in India are so biased.
Lastly, jobs are all about contacts. Frankly I got this job after wasting 2 months in the UK through a IIT senior and even now recruits are 40% via contacts and the rest through personal talent etc. So maintain those contacts always.
Anyone can ask me anything about interviews, GRE,GMAT whatever. Never gave CAT but even IITJEE questions are welcome. And since I have studied in both the US and UK I am equipped to handle both :)).
Currently, got admitted in Cambridge Judge for PhD in Business with awesome stipend (after my share of 3 straight rejects) so will be off this October. PhD in business in interesting and a topic best left for later.
Thanks for reading and all the best. Shoot me questions and I will try to answer as much as I can....


Hey,

You have given quite a frank opinion.

I am going for the full time mba at warwick this year. I was quite shocked reading your post about mba in UK. I am an engineer and currently working in my family business. I have heard quite a lot about mba from 'good' universities in the UK ( LBS, Oxford, Cambridge, Warwick). I intend to work there for sometime to gain international exposure before coming back to my business. I know the economic scene is not very pleasant there at the moment. I am also aware of the current post study work visa norms.

Since you have graduated from warwick, can you please throw some light on the course, the experience, the quality of education. Is it really very difficult to get a job post the warwick mba. moreover, what is the value of the university in india, if at all i wish to consider gaining corporate exposure before working in my business.

thanks

Kunal

I got an offer from SBS..YAHOOO

I think they are sending the results now. I just go the offer email an hour back.

At what time will the results be out today..


Wishing everyone (r2 applicants) all the very best for the result

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The R2 results will be out tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

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I am an MFE aspirant to Oxford and also have got an interview call for Round 2. Any other MFE applicants here preparing fr interview?

Hi Puys and Mr. Conrad,

Does anyone know details about JBS loan program. Is the loan program available through JBS available for without a co-signor, just like SBS has a tie up for a loan program without a co-signor.

I think its an important consideration, knowing that schols maybe tough to get and that it maybe tough to get financing for studying abroad.

Lemme know what u guys think...

Interesting comments throughout the thread. Well I guess I have much to contribute to help all those thinking of doing an MBA from the UK.
Firstly, no jobs. PSW (post study work visa) or not (which again is getting stopped from this year) jobs are very scarce and the current government is under immense pressure to not allow foreigners to land up jobs on UK shores. Of course you might find some odd jobs but you do not really wish to be MacD guy with an MBA do you?
So if you have a problem with money I guess its not good to come unless you are graduating from LBS. However, the experience was really good. Lots of exposure, different styles of teaching, different people and I made a whole lot of friends from different nations. Studies is good and standards are high. Its a one year course and you need to get a distinction (70%) to be actually considered for any decent job but 70% there is way harder than that in India.
For anyone dissing the UK, I agree it is a risk. If you are an average student with no family business back up then do not go. However if you are good or have some money to spare and really tired of some 3-4 lac job in India just go.
For anyone comparing jobs in India to the UK: In India you can never work in a restaurant and still support yourself. Unless you have IIT/IIM brand it is still hard to get a job. Naukri.com reports 5000 applications for each management level fresher/1-2 yrs work ex job. So India is not rosy. Yes, due to the stupid conversion rate things just seem very expensive to someone from India to the UK but so says my friend who is from Bihar about Mumbai.
My quals: BTech Chem Engg IIT-G, MS Pharmacy USC, MBA Warwick.
And honest reply regarding jobs. I am working in a top MNC in Mumbai with a salary of 13 lacs pa. Before I went abroad I was working at 8 lacs pa. My girlfriend who is just graduating from IIM-L is getting 14 lacs pa on joining with 0 exp. And I was basically hired on my IIT undergrad degree. So studying abroad makes little difference. And even makes me rather frustrated with work life in India sometimes. But the problem is this, the 3 persons directly reporting to me have all got MBA's and are engineers from Mumbai university or some other relatively lesser known colleges. And they all get something like 4-5 lacs pa with 5-6 yrs more experience than me. Considering that a very small percentage will get through IIT/IIM it seems terrible that employers in India are so biased.
Lastly, jobs are all about contacts. Frankly I got this job after wasting 2 months in the UK through a IIT senior and even now recruits are 40% via contacts and the rest through personal talent etc. So maintain those contacts always.
Anyone can ask me anything about interviews, GRE,GMAT whatever. Never gave CAT but even IITJEE questions are welcome. And since I have studied in both the US and UK I am equipped to handle both :)).
Currently, got admitted in Cambridge Judge for PhD in Business with awesome stipend (after my share of 3 straight rejects) so will be off this October. PhD in business in interesting and a topic best left for later.
Thanks for reading and all the best. Shoot me questions and I will try to answer as much as I can....


pazuzuinxs - Your achievements in your educational career have been great. But to me, that does not guarantee a great post mba job. Job profile is directly related to your previous experience at work. Any degree has diminishing returns.:|
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hmmm The European situation is alarming but it is for everyone from Oxbridge to LBS to INSEAD and although INSEAD and LBS are quite high in the rankings but they have a lot more candidates than Oxbridge .... so the situation is going to be gloomy ...... Let's just hope things don't get worse as they are not likely to get better for sure.

And as I believe, the brand will help you, if not today .... a couple of years from now for sure.

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