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I'm sharing with all of you advise that I got from someone who's well placed in the industry....... I had mailed him after my CAT and this is what he sent me, i feel there's enough wisdom in his words for it to be shared with all of you....
We are doing great and am sure same your end. Good to hear that you have cleared the CAT / will be clearing the CAT with good marks. I am also honoured that you have given me the priviledge to advice you in this moment of your career decision. That put the niceties to one side so we can get to hard facts .
Shoaib, it is very necessary in life that you decide what you want and when you want. You can have choices in a thread i.e this takes priority, if not this then this and the list goes on. But end of the day - You make your own choices based on a informed future oriented basis.
First the colleges - frankly what makes a difference is you. The better college gives you a 1 year head-start at the most. You need to decide what you want to do not do what is available. So what is your personality, temperament, aptitude and interest suited to. Analyze that - FAST. Pay packages do not matter (They have all dropped) (CTC is different from take home) (INR 10 lac CTC could give you 35-45K take home max - if lucky) - what matters is that do you have a good foundation in your subject of choice and more have you assimilated the theory and can you utilize it practically with common sense. Sounds Scary! But thats what separates the men from the boys and the butter from the buttermilk.
Good courses - top of line are - IIMs - Generalist / FMS - Marketing / XLRI - HR / MICA - Media / IIFT - Foreign trade. Then come MDI etc.
As regards studying overseas - once again what are your objectives in life. Live Life Kingsize overseas on DAD's MONEY! Shoaib, I may seem rough and rude but thats how you will get treated once in the real world. You need to build your foundations - yourself and then build your dreams. But dont forget to dream because if you dont you will not have a target in life and without that you will not have a sense of achievement.
(1) Reach Higher, Hit Harder, Grow faster. (2) Success seems to be connected to action, Successful people keep moving, They make mistakes but never quit. (3) Your attitude makes altitude and lastly and the most important (4) "I CAN, I WILL".
Do a SWOT on yourself. Identify your core points - positive and negative. Identify your personality, temperment, aptitude and interest. FAST. Then select the course you wish to do. Where does not matter other than a ego issue. You do not see too many IIM guys heading successful organisations. Why, What happened. What has happend to the high flyers with super pay pack at start up. How come they did not get successful finally. So keep a gap to grow. Plan. Stragically and most importent IMPLEMENT.
Shoaib, all this sounds rough and bad. But " The rocky path you will tread on now will lead you to the rainbow" provided you keep your head on your shoulders and feet on the ground.
Wish you all the best and success. Any query to email in and I will be glad to advice within my limited knowledge of courses gone past. Take care and I await your reply.
Before I begin my Cat story. This is my profile
X: 93.44 (Karnataka State Board)
XII:90.16(Karnataka State Board)
B.E: 77.8 (VTU, SJCE Eand C)
2005: I barely knew anything about CAT. I was wondering what's the fuzz about MBA?I was thinking well when we finished XII none of us were (IMHO) interested in joining B.Com, then why do some of my friends now want to study MBA? There was one guy, Spandan, who was regarded as the most brainy guy in our branch, he started this. I did not know what do I do after finishing Engineering. I simply bought the CAT application form. Then I came to know even though CAT is a kind of aptitude test we need some prep. I blindly subscribed to Brilliant-tutorials. Never got interested in studying those materials and did not study anything. CAT 2005 came(I was in 7th Sem). I attended the test and got an overall percentile of around 65.6 . Hmmm now I kind of got interested in cracking this test which embarrassed me (Again there was no direction and determination apart from this)
2006: This time around Time were conducting a scholarship test. I simply attended the test and got a scholarship . Three of us attended it Spandan,Sharath, and I. Sharath, who was our EC branch topper and who had no inclination whatsoever came second in this mysore district level test. I was kind of schoked at how this guy who hasn't solved any apti questions get this? He idea was simple, you don't need to solve every problem to arrive at the ans. You assume the ans and see whether it comes correct, and have a clear and calm mind. I had not warmed up to this concept yet. Anyway I got 50 % discount for coming in at 8th and joined time. Did not attend classes because I thought they were too boring. Tried to solve a few questions. But got bored the questions in the basic material were too easy. Still it had not occured to me that to ace CAT u need a plan and work hard to execute it. Later in July 2006 I joined Lucent as a software engineer and started learning all new languages like JAVA, XML, XSD, etc etc and stopped preparing for cat, but hey I had bought the application form again. I gave CAT 2006 but as expected failed to clear any of the sectional cut-offs. Got around 89 percentile. But it increased my confidence. I told to myself with some amount of preparation I should be through in 2007.
2007: Around August I really started thinking interms of what do I want to do? I did not like the job I was doing. Just coding something wasn't challeging enough for me. Then it dawned to me decision making is something that I enjoy, CAT gives me an opportunity. So i should be serious about it. I got IMS material now (was clueless about materials by this time ). Still was lacking in effort. So there it went another spineless performance. Surprise of surprises it was quant which spoiled it I had scored only 2 marks in quant (Shamed all the Engineers ) but I had 98.5 in verbal and cleared DI cut-off. So I thought I must be doing something right in these at least.
2008: This is the year I told myself that I need to study MBA if I think so whether in an IIM or another college. One of my friends at office, Kapil, who got into IIM B advised me to give as many different tests (apart from cat ) as possible. I decided to write GMAT. Then I came to know about PG. Had never entered PG before that (the name was not appealing ). But decision to take GMAT was not planned well. I applied in march and fixed april 18th as the date. Then I underwent an ear operation and hoped to study while on medical leave. But the tablets I was taking and that bulky bandage around my ear were such a nuisance.So when I took the test finally I scored just 670 ( QA-51, and VA-2 was dissapointed . But GMAT proved I was not hopeless in quant. In fit of rage I booked another date June 6th but again there was no plan in place.This time I started contributing in GMAT sentence correction and critical reasoning thread. I wanted to test myself. It helped a lot. I got to know a lot from the explanations of other successful PGs.
June 6th came my second GMAT attempt scored an ok score of 700 this time (QA-50, VA-34) . Decided to try my luck with ISB. Spent a month on writing essays and getting it reviewed by my friends( Pradeep and Spandan). Had hopes on ISB (don't know why but I had a feeling that I would go to study MBA this time my best bet was institutes other then IIMs). But got rejected in ISB just two weeks before CAT 2008. November 16 th came. I was having fever couldn't sleep all night was almost on the verge of skipping cat (I am glad that I didn't ;)).I was alone in the room and was very tired But somehow mustered enough strength to reach the test center. Got my adrenaline going by looking at some pretty faces there . The rest is history. Now I will stop boring you and take you through my strategy which may be of great help to you.
Strategy 1: Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Write different tests and be ready to consider other good universities apart from IIMs. This gives you a fall back option and keeps your mind relaxed and calm. This is needed in CAT
Strategy 2: Write GMAT. The tests help you to manage time. The verbal part is very good you can easily ace cat VA if you prepare for GMAT VA. I was confident in VA because of this (I used to clear cut offs in mocks most of the time in VA while I failed in others
Strategy 3: Attend Mock cats people. It is the training ground. I did not attend Mocks prior to 2008 with any sincerity and it cost me. I faired poorly in 12 of the 14 mocks that I took in 2008. only in 2 of them I had over 97 percentile rest were pretty bad ranging from 60-90. But never cleared all the cut-offs in any mock (joined time Mock). But mocks are not about scoring they are about experimenting, I experimented different strategies and finally settled on this format. 50 mins for each section. Start with the section in which I was good (VA). 40 mins of quant then 50 mins of DI (because I couldn't fix 50 mins always for DI ,as it is sometimes more n sometimes less time consuming). Then I would come back and finish QA
Strategy 4: Cat is a diligence test more than an intelligence test. You need to work towards it. I realised my forte was not hard work. I usually got serious about cat only in the months of August or september. The questions in basic materials were not Mock cat or CAT worthy. So I decided in solving previous mocks. Wrote in a book all questions that were different, in the sense that these questions required me to know a particulat concept or a formula without which I couldn't solve them. I used to come back home after Mocks and solve questions again ( I usually experimented during mocks so would to solve it again at home). Solving Mocks is fun and more helpful than basic materials. The notes I prepared help me solve 6 -8 CAT quesions in 2008 within a reasonable time. Make your own strategy solve as many mocks as u can.
I solved questions in CAT that were to my strength (not the ones the institutes said easy)
The real cat has many common sense questions. In the last week I solved previous CAT papers and what I found out was I could really solve them. This gave me the confidence. Also compare real cat papers. There is always some similarity when it comes to the kind of answers they pick for questions I identified a lot of them.
Puzzle kind of things were what I liked in DI so I solved those kind og questions I think IMS basic material gives a good explanation in these kind of questions . The basic material on methods to solve puzzles like arranging something matching a profession with a person, city etc is better described there. Also para jumble quesstions are well explained in it.
Now let me tell you what happened after writing CAT. I got the results and came to know I had BLACKI calls. Now I searched through PG threads and made a list of maths and E and C related questions (particulary telecom , my domain) in PG. Also made a list of other why MBA and osuch general questions. Prepared answers for them asked my friends to conduct mock interviews. Attended 2 time mock GD classes. The PG questions were a great help especially I got Maths questions in A that were there in my prepared list . Thanks PGs, without it I wouldn't have made it to IIMs today.
April 10th : By now I was suffering from Insomnia. Had seen the leaked list of IIM B PGP list. My name was not there. I was greatly disappointed as I thought it was one of my better interviews. Didn't sleep all night. Then came L shock (this I considered my best interview) I was rejected there too. Not even waitlisted. Then around 8.30 came C results. Again a reject (expected it was a bad interview). Was totally depressed by now. Came to know around 10 that IIM A results were being announced didn't wanto open it as I feared the worst. Didn't want another reject. But somehow mustered enough courage to open it. To my disbelief I had made it That was it for me. I am still in disbelief. Later came to know I got rejected in K and selected in I from one of friends.To all of you my suggestion is write cat for youself not for your GF or for others but for you yourself. Remeber emotions simply put pressure on you and make you weak. I would like to end it by quoting a dialogue from Shawshank Redemption (something that I always used to keep saying to myslef whenever I needed inspiration)
Hope is a good thing,may be the best of things and no good thing ever dies.
Excuse me for any grammatical error. I am writing this post half asleep
Feel free to PM me.
Interview Exp :
IIM B : http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/37585-2009-2011-iimb-gd-pi-8.html#post1486130
IIM L : http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/37587-2009-2011-iiml-essay-gd-9.html#post1486134
IIM A : http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/2009-2011-iima-pgp-essay-pi-experiences-25037584
IIM C : http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/37586-2009-2011-iimc-pgdm-gd-9.html#post1486141
IIM K : http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/2009-2011iimk-gd-pi-experiences-25037408
IIM I : http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/37548-2009-2011-iimi-gd-pi-10.html#post1486144
Well, this is my first post on pagalguy. Never thought that I would be writing my first post with such a grim face and a remorse and grief-stricken heart. But then thats life. Not everything comes out the way we want it to... But frnz r frnz, and I dnt have any left as of now. May be only successful people get friends and "losers" are not entitled to any companions, especially in tuf times...
Hope to get sum support from whoever possible, it will be very welcome. Thanks.....
To b continued for a happys endingssss
I got a few books and started self study...I must say some of friends were the real motivating factors for me to go ahead and give a good try, one thing was for sure--I had no support from home, they thought I was only wasting money and rather should get married as I was about to turn 24 (which is kind of right for a female acc to them ) .. during all this , my Dad resigned and they shifted to chn.. I tried for a transfer from Pune to chn where i had been working so I cud support my family till my Dad got a new job.. those were testing times for sure when I almost felt like giving up. If dad hadn't got a new job in oct, i dunno wht i wud have done cos it wud have not been right for me to leave my job and take up higher studies then..
Oct-Jan 08-- totally hard pressed for time.. too much of work at home, at office... almost nil time devoted towards studies except the weekly TIME tests..stopped taking IMS tests as the test centre was way too far...the TIME scores plummeted ... cud hardly manage b/w 70-80's.. I still didn't lose all hope.. took a week's leave before CAT and took several mocks.. had invested some time in maths in the early months so on that front situation was not downright bad.. On the D-day , I reached the test centre and took my seat.. I, who was feeling confident till then , broke down in sweat wondering what I wud do if I did not make it this time.. that's it, I was done for.. when the paper was distributed , I knew I had lost the battle even before fighting it.. even Verbal and DI which were my strong points had taken a hiding and refused to help me out when I tried to work them out.. came home and attempted all those Q's which i cud not do sitting in the exam hall..I believe each one of us can attempt those q's , ultimately it is not how hard the Q is, but how hard your brain is prepared to work in those 2 hrs.. result was a meagre-70%'ile..(it is self deprecating to even quote this ridiculous figure on this sacred forum but am only quoting this in the hope that when you read this you will know that this is but a score, and you shouldn't give up just yet!!) , because of my poor preps, I had not applied to any of the colleges under CAT... which I should have done as it simply translates into not believing much in myself.. lose everything, but never self belief!
One week before XAT, and I was working in office for more than 12 hrs each day.... 3rd Jan,Sat-instead of revising my fundas, I was in office mailing the client till night 9 pm.. I rushed to my test centre on Jan 4th , went thru the paper , gave my best shot.. (not literally..there were a no of attempts that I got wrong as i didn't read th options carefully).. and then rushed back to the office again..(what a Sunday!) ..when results came I had 90%'ile, was quite disappointed... I hadn't applied to XL, but had thought I might still be able to make it to XIMB.. but I couldn't complain... I was happy I had turned up at least this much given the circumstances at home and office.., BTW, by this time my parents had already started searching for grooms and I was left with no peace of mind at home... I knew that once I got married an MBA would only be a distant dream...
I got calls from SCIT, Welingkar and XIME... I converted SCIT , so am not going for the WE interview... I have an IT experience of almost 3 yrs so I believe I might as well specialise in this stream, my parents who had been almost against my getting into an MBA this yr are now willing to let me study... :p
I would not have written this post today if not for the great difference PG has made to my life..I feel like I know a lot of people here though I have never personally interacted with them.. It has kept motivating me to get better every time and helped me stay focussed when I was down and ready to give up..I hope that for all of you who have problems and have often thought of giving up, this post shall in some way help to keep fighting till the end for your cause, no matter what...
I have read most of the Posts on this forum, and see people here have a lot to offer in terms of advice that really needs to be followed..so I won't repeat them again..but a few of my learnings which I think may help others:
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