IIMB Waiting list for the 2009-2011 PGP Admissions

MBA CAT 2023
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Use this thread to post any relevant question about the IIMB waitlist

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Use this thread to post any relevant question about the IIMB waitlist

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joy_dreamer: (http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/2009-2011iimb-gd-pi-call-getters-profile-admissions-queries-25036525)

Last yr 300 offers for 251 seats in General SC ST PWD
General offers : 214 in the 1st list.
50 General WL moved till 46. U will find the link to last yr WL movement somewhere earlier in this thread itself.
So for 187 Gen. seats 214 + 46 = 260 people got final offers.
This yr 376 offers for 350 seats . 81 WL (breakup not given till now)

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vinaymodi (http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/2009-2011iimb-gd-pi-call-getters-profile-admissions-queries-25036525)

Is anything derivable about the number of extra offers made this year in the general category ?
I understand that it was 90 in 2007 and 49 in 2008. both years resulting in.
The corresponding WL movement was 8 and 46 both resulting in roughly 95.
So i guess that is going to be the deciding factor in how much the WL moves this year ?

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Vinaymodi (http://www.pagalguy.com/discussions/2009-2011iimb-gd-pi-call-getters-profile-admissions-queries-25036525)

Based on a comparison between the gd/pi shortlist and the final call pdf,
CAT 2008 Results

these are the results

376 final calls
247 general category
40 OBC
52 SC
26 ST
10 PWD
adds up to 375 :)


Regarding the waiting list

52 general category
13 OBC
9 SC
5 ST
2 PWD

Total 81

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Conversion ratio

Total Calls 1431
Total Offer 376

Ratio: 1431/376 = 3.8

general category Ratio = 831/247 = 3.36
OBC Ratio = 240/40 = 6.00
SC artio = 212/52 = 4.07
ST ratio = 104/26 = 4.00
PWD ratio = 44/10 = 4.40

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IIM-Bangalore awaiting ministry nod for OBC quota admission, IIM News - By Indiaedunews.net
IIM-Bangalore awaiting ministry nod for OBC quota admission

"'For the next academic year (2009-10), we plan to offer 60 seats under the OBC quota, which will be 17 percent of the total intake of 350 seats,"



But actual OBC offer is 40
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I think they have gone ahead with around 10 % OBC reservation this time.

Comparison with last year.

there were 251 seats in Gen +ST+SC+PWD and 25 offers in OBC ( following a rouhg multiplicator of 1.2 for offers from seats that implies around 21 seats)

So total seats in 2008: 272
(Roughly substantiated by the 24 offers in ST which is always roughly equal to 7.5% of the Total Seats)

General seats In either case,
Number of buffer offers in General (considering 180 seats) = 34
Waiting List movement = 46
Ratio (Total movment to No. of seats) = 80/180 = 0.444

This year,
From the earlier analysis of 247 general calls as well as the figure of 26 ST Calls
I think the total number of seats this year is 346 with around 204 seats in general

Number of buffer offers = 43

Scenario 1:
Movement is the same as last year ratio wise
Total movement = number of gen seats * ratio = 204 * 0.444 = 89.76 ~ 89
Predicted Waiting List movement = 89 - 43 = 46

Scenario 2:
Lesser movement due to various factors
Total movement for a minimum of 70 % WL conversion
Waiting List movment = 36 (70 % of 52)
Total movement = 43+36 = 79
Movement Ratio = 79/204 = 0.387

So at an 87 % of the movement of last year , around 36 people could move from WL.

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I think they have gone ahead with around 10 % OBC reservation this time.
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OBC may be 15%. Few OBC people may have got Interview call under GEN and converted under OBC quota. But this time it turns out to be 20 people. So total 40 + 20 = 60 (15% Quota)

Again OBC wait list is not 13. It is 15 people. (2 person got interview call as GEN. But waitlisted as OBC)

Ref:

kamalaandi (
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/32826-obc-candidates-planning-take-cat-63.html#post1458488
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/36526-2009-2011-iimc-pgdm-gd-50.html#post1463088 )
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This year,
From the earlier analysis of 247 general calls as well as the figure of 26 ST Calls
I think the total number of seats this year is 346 with around 204 seats in general

Number of buffer offers = 43


Buffer offer across all category is 376-350 = 26

So total buffer can't be 43. I think you have to redo the calculation
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As IIM-C revisits its admission list
IIM-B should do the same.
the conversion ratio does not make sense at all.
if for general it is 1:3.3
for OBC it is 1:6
that is very very unfair.

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Buffer offer across all category is 376-350 = 26

So total buffer can't be 43. I think you have to redo the calculation


yep i think 10 % is a good estimate for the OBC quota this year and including people who might have qualified under General it could reach 15 %.
If that is the case, then we have
100 - 10(OBC) - 15(SC) -7.5(ST) - 3(PWD) = 64.5 % General seats = 224 seats as opposed to 204.

I think the number 180 i used above is actually 182, from the link u posted of April 2008 news
And regarding the buffer , what i feel about last year

Total Buffer : 300 -251 = 49
General Buffer : 214- 182 = 32
SC Buffer : 53-41 = 12
ST Buffer : 24 - 20 = 4
PWD Buffer : 9 - 8 = 1

and separately
OBC Buffer: 25-19 = 6

For this year

Total offers 376, Total estimated seats : 346


Category Offers = Seats + Buffer
Total 376 = 346 + 30
General 247 = 224 + 23
OBC 40 = 35 + 05
SC 52 = 52 + 00
ST 26 = 26 + 00
PWD 10 = 10 + 00

Note that the buffers add up to only 28, so there must be a small discrepancy in SC or OBC especially the 0 Buffer categories above.

Well this must definitely be good news (standard disclaimer ) for the waiting list people,
since

I have revised the .444 ratio to .429 ( 78/182) for last year.

the scenario 1 (read earlier post) changes to
Total movement = 224 *.429 = 96
WL movement = 96-23 =73 (Second WL ???)

and Scenario 2
the percentage of movement compared to last year at which 70 % WL movement would occur is
Total movement = 36 (72 percent of 52) + 23 = 59
Ratio of movement = 59/224 = 0.263
which is about 61 % of the movement last time.

For complete conversion of the waiting list, that is a movement of 52 + 23 = 75
the movement would have to be 75/224 = 0.335
which is roughly 78 % of the movement last time.

Of course the comparisons are in terms of movement per seat and the assumption that there are 346 seats to begin with.
And all the analysis is purely estimates.
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Now for a pessimistic analysis,

consider the total number of seat estimates form the various values

from the fact that SC seats = 15 % of total seats
if SC Buffer = 0 , Total Seats = 52/.15 = 346

For pessimistic cases, Assumption is mad that offers roughly = 1.2 times the number of seats
or buffer = (1-1/1.2)*Offers = Offers/6
or seats = 5*Offers/6

For pessimistic case, SC Seats = 5/6*52
Total Seats = 44/.15 = 293

In the case of ST reservation, number of seats are always roughly equal to the number of offers.

So if ST Buffer = 0 , Total seats = 26/.075 = 346
for pessimistic case consider offer = 1.1 times the number of seats,
then seats = 10*Offers/11
ST Seats = 10/11*26 = 24 ,
Total seats = 24/.075 = 320.


I think rather than speculating on this the best bet is to call up the office and find out how many total seats are there this year :D

Any socially responsible people person volunteer 😁

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so an explanation for the buffer mismatch
could either be

A. lesser number of seats than expected : Total seats = 315 or so
B. lesser buffers resulting in a lot of movement : unlikely :)


With the assumption A, and general seats around 204-206, the assumptions i made in the earlier posts seem valid i guess.


standard disclaimers 😃

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IIMB fee up by Rs 1.5 lakh, PGP will cost Rs 11 lakh
Indian Institute of Management Bangalore hikes fee - Mangalore - Cities - The Times of India

weird, it says 350 seats here
does that imply definite huge movements as per the analysis .I am quite sure there would be more than 120 intersections between A, B and C resulting in at least 60 people opting for not B. But then again assumptions can always be proven wrong by facts.

All in due time.
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I think they have gone ahead with around 10 % OBC reservation this time.
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OBC may be 15%. Few OBC people may have got Interview call under GEN and converted under OBC quota. But this time it turns out to be 20 people. So total 40 + 20 = 60 (15% Quota)

Again OBC wait list is not 13. It is 15 people. (2 person got interview call as GEN. But waitlisted as OBC)

Ref:

kamalaandi (
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/32826-obc-candidates-planning-take-cat-63.html#post1458488
http://www.pagalguy.com/forum/cat-and-related-discussion/36526-2009-2011-iimc-pgdm-gd-50.html#post1463088 )



firstly the above ref. are just for IIM-C and not for IIM-B.

i have not come across anyone who is obc but got general call in IIM-B.
as per your view if again the obc candidates are considered as generals then the offers should be 60/240.
and not 40/240.

if the obc persons would have been considered as generals only then 40 calls per 240 interviews can be justified.

as of now i can see it is very unfair to take seats from obc and make it general.
the conversion ratio for general 1: 3.3
and the same for obc 1:6
and for all other categories (sc, st, pwd) it is 1:4

p.s. no offence to anyone. but my views are true.
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I have a Waitlist 18 category: GEN. Can any of you perhaps apply some analysis and tell me which way I am headed?

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chinmayasharma Says
I have a Waitlist 18 category: GEN. Can any of you perhaps apply some analysis and tell me which way I am headed?


I am pretty sure it will convert.. Even I am waitlisted at 30.. I expect it to convert too.. Anyway, even if it does convert, I will be joining IIM Calcutta

I wish all the waitlisters the best!!
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calls:BLICK
category :obc
converts:LK,B(waitlist no 1),C(on hold!!!!!!),I (wl5)

though its most likely wl ll start moving 😉 i wish i was on the other side of the borderline :(..anyways keeping my fingers crossed..

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This is not a good news for WL

"This year, IIM-C observed that the number of common names between the admissions lists of various IIMs has reduced as compared to recent years."
PaGaLGuY.com - The Everything of MBA, CAT 2008, GMAT, XAT, IIM - Features - Why has IIM-C revised PGP admissions results and put students on hold?